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Roll Tigers! Auburn looking to pad historical title résumé

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Despite losing out to Florida State in the final BCS title game earlier this month, Auburn could be flying a handful of new banners at Jordan-Hare Stadium in the very near future.  Or, at the very least, recognizing a handful more than they currently do.

Officially, the Tigers claim two football national championships: 1957 and 2010.  Unofficially, AU could, as other schools do — hello, Alabama — claim multiple “unofficial” titles.

Utilizing the “all the cool universities are doing it” line of reasoning, AU athletic director Jay Jacobs confirmed that the football program is indeed considering recognizing seven additional national championships in football.

“If other schools are using these same polls to declare a national championship, we should at least consider it,” Jacobs told AuburnUndercover.com. “I don’t think there’s a better time for the Auburn family to consider it than right here at the end of the BCS era.

“As we transition into another playoff format for the national champion, I just think we need to look hard at it.”

The 1910, 1913, 1914, 1958, 1983, 1993 and 2004 teams, the 247Sports.com website notes, are all under consideration.  Three of those title teams — 1913, 1983 and 1993 — are recognized by the NCAA in its record book, although not through either the Associated Press or coaches’ poll.  The unbeaten 1913 team was named national champion by six organizations (Chicago and Harvard also claim titles for that year), the one-loss 1983 team by 10 (Miami was the AP, FWAA and UPI champ) and the undefeated 1993 team by four (Florida State was the AP, FWAA and UPI champ).

The most noteworthy of the seven under consideration, and the one that would likely cause the most debate, is the 2004 team.  The Tigers that year finished the season as unbeaten SEC champions; unfortunately for AU, there were two other Big Five conference teams — USC and Oklahoma — that went undefeated as well.  The Trojans and Sooners finished one-two in the final regular season BCS standings that year and met in the Orange Bowl in the seventh BCS title game.  Because of NCAA sanctions stemming from the Reggie Bush controversy, however, USC was forced to vacate the title for the 2004 season, with the NCAA officially recognizing no one as that year’s champion.

A book published in 2012 and written by Birmingham attorney Michael Skotnicki laid out the case for his alma mater to claim many more football titles than they already do.  In an interview with 247Sports.com, Skotnicki gave several examples of other football programs padding its football résumé, including two from the SEC.

“Texas A&M decided upon entering the SEC that they would add the 1919 and 1927 titles,” Skotnicki said. “Minnesota added the 1904 title last summer. USC added the 1939 title in 2004. Ole Miss claims three national titles and not one is AP, Coaches’ Poll or BCS.

“Why should Auburn be any different? In this day and age, why should Auburn be so stuffy about it?”

Left unmentioned was Auburn’s hated in-state rival.  Alabama claims 15 national championships, 10 of which came from the Associated Press, coaches’ poll or, in seven seasons, both.  The other five are pre-World War II titles added to the team’s media guide in the eighties.

While not mentioning their Iron Bowl rival specifically, Jacobs made it clear that if it’s good enough for other programs, it’s good enough for his.

“We’re so competitive. We compare ourselves to other schools,” Jacobs, who played on the ’83 team that’s under consideration for title recognition, said. “If they’re counting something that we’re not counting, and we’re on equal footing, wouldn’t it be wise to count it?

“I think it’s something we need to consider right now. It’s been talked about here and there, but let’s get it out there now and look at it and see what we should do.”

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26 Responses to “Roll Tigers! Auburn looking to pad historical title résumé”
  1. fitz66 says: Jan 31, 2014 11:01 AM

    I was inspired by Auburn and just claimed Employee of the Month October 2006, and Best Dressed – Centennial High School Class of 2000.

  2. 8to80texansblog says: Jan 31, 2014 11:29 AM

    Speaking of “self awarded” championships, for A&M’s supposedly self awarded 1919 “Championship” they went 10-0-0 with a combined margin of victory of 275-0.

    I know it was almost 100 years ago, and the game was completely different, but it always impresses me to see an undefeated unscored upon season….

    And A&M coach Dana X. Bible did it twice at A&M (1917,1919)

  3. rolltide510 says: Jan 31, 2014 11:39 AM

    If auburn officially claims a title in the BCS era where a championship game existed that they didn’t play in, and does so because some other schools claim pre-WW2 titles, its going to be the greatest unintentional self-parody college football has ever seen.

  4. thefiesty1 says: Jan 31, 2014 12:19 PM

    Living in the past. What have you done for me lately?

  5. irishdodger says: Jan 31, 2014 1:15 PM

    I think Bama now claims 1,074 titles & counting at last count, so Auburn has a lot of catching up to do.

  6. thraiderskin says: Jan 31, 2014 1:17 PM

    8to8, with stats like that, A&M should get to claim 1919. Auburn should definitely not be claiming 2004. That year everyone was saying it should have been OU and AU, then the second USC blows OU out of the water, Auburn fans start screaming it should have been USC v AU. Make up your mind…

  7. mrlaloosh says: Jan 31, 2014 1:29 PM

    The only national championship that counts is the next one. Period.

  8. 4512dawg4512 says: Jan 31, 2014 1:56 PM

    Those 5 turnovers killed OU in that 2004 championship game. Aside from that those two teams matched up pretty well. That was a sloppy ending to a great season for OU.

  9. afrancis55 says: Jan 31, 2014 2:00 PM

    Although i believe Auburn deserves some of the mentioned titles above, I hope Jay Jacobs doesn’t decide to claim them. Leave the claiming of mythical titles to the gumps of the Eastern Mississippi school of the handicapped. War Eagle!

  10. thraiderskin says: Jan 31, 2014 2:19 PM

    I’m not crapping on OU in 2004, although I won money from a friend because of the outcome, I’m just saying Auburn has no business even sniffing around the 04 title.

  11. 4512dawg4512 says: Jan 31, 2014 2:43 PM

    Raiderskin– I totally agree with you, and Im glad you won money. At least something good came from that game, haha

  12. dg0122 says: Jan 31, 2014 4:21 PM

    @80….
    We’ve all heard the company spin on the 2 retro nattys…Please explain the rationale for the big 12 titles added at the same time- one when they lost the game and the other when they didn’t even get to the title game…
    thanks

  13. 8to80texansblog says: Jan 31, 2014 4:57 PM

    You’re referring to the ’97 and ’10 that are painted on the side of Kyle Field under “Conference Titles” I assume….

    Yeah… those were head scratchers… after a lot of pressure from Aggies, the administration painted “South Division” underneath those. A&M did win the South Division those years.

    In ’97 the Aggies won the B12S and lost to Nebraska in the title game, and in 2010 there was a 3 way tie for the B12S. Due to a BCS tiebreaker, OU got to play for the B12 title even though they had lost to A&M that year.

    Do I think they should be up there… no. Are they going to take them down because I fee that way… no.

  14. louhudson23 says: Jan 31, 2014 5:13 PM

    Ten Alabama titles come from AP Writers-or Coaches Polls or BCS Title Games. The other 5 are Pre-War and are less legitimate,if barroom arguably valid….WIKI-Since World War II, Alabama only claims national championships awarded by the final AP Poll or the final Coaches’ Poll. This policy is consistent with other FBS football programs with numerous national title claims, including Notre Dame, USC, and Oklahoma. All national championships claimed by the University of Alabama were published in nationally-syndicated newspapers and magazines, and each of the national championship selectors, and are cited in the Official 2010 NCAA FBS Record Book.[106] In addition to the championships claimed by the university, the NCAA has listed Alabama as receiving a championship for the 1945, 1966, 1975, and 1977 college football seasons….In the 1980s, Alabama’s Sports Information Director Wayne Atcheson started recognizing five (5) pre-Coach Bryant national championship teams (1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941) by adding them to the University’s Football Media Guide. According to Atcheson, he made the effort in the context of disputed titles being claimed by other schools, and “to make Alabama football look the best it could look.” Though the claims were made in the spirit of competition with other claimants, Atcheson maintains that the titles are the school’s rightful claims.[107]

  15. rolltide510 says: Jan 31, 2014 6:16 PM

    A reminder to college football fans that Bama has more AP poll titles then your school does.

    Make fun of what you feel are made up titles all you want, we’re ahead any way you slice it.

  16. normtide says: Jan 31, 2014 6:20 PM

    Little brother at it again….
    Btw, AU was on probation in 57. They lead the universe in in NCAA infractions.

  17. Romulus says: Jan 31, 2014 8:09 PM

    @norm
    Your team was the only team to be on probation during the bcs era to win. Tread carefully.
    @Hudson
    Your school claims titles after losing to the school that win it the final game. Please!
    If you want to laugh at Auburn for doing what you’re school has done worse at then you should stop spring those facts.
    Applaud auburn for recognizing the championships that the ncaa recognizes. Those others, they should not claim.
    But raise the banners for those ones that deserve it.

  18. normtide says: Jan 31, 2014 8:19 PM

    Your team is the only SEC team to lose the BCS title game to a non-sec team. Then again, you change who you root for, so maybe your an FSU fan today.

  19. rolltide510 says: Jan 31, 2014 8:27 PM

    Romulus says:
    Jan 31, 2014 8:09 PM
    @norm
    Your team was the only team to be on probation during the bcs era to win. Tread carefully.

    ^^^ When you’re allowed to play in the championship game and they give you a trophy after you win it, it apparently isn’t especially serious probation, is it?

    Not like say “auburn 1993 banned from post season play but tries to claim a championship for it 20 years later” style probation.

  20. rocket1988 says: Jan 31, 2014 9:07 PM

    Any Bama fans remember 1973? You claim that one even though you lost to ND in Sugar Bowl? Consensus titles should be the only ones that count.

  21. scbaby2013 says: Feb 1, 2014 1:47 AM

    Auburn has no business trying to claim the 2004 national championship. Everybody knows USC won that title.

  22. scbaby2013 says: Feb 1, 2014 2:36 AM

    Auburn should worry about keeping the current championship they “did” win lol

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9131624/auburn-tigers-coaches-bribed-players-altered-grades-broke-recruiting-rules-gene-chizik-according-report

  23. louhudson23 says: Feb 1, 2014 4:51 AM

    @Rocket, That is correct and is based on the Coaches poll(which is one of two polls or BCS Title Game victories Alabama itself requires to claim a title) which was tallied before the Bowl Game. Take that one away if you must to make 9 post war titles…or add in one of the five the NCAA credits them with,although not claimed by Alabama ,as they do not fit the guidelines outlined above. The 1966 Title will do just fine as a substitute…if you recall,Alabama finished undefeated and untied,including a Sugar Bowl Victory.They finished third to two teams who tied each other in their final game ,neither of whom played a Bowl Game that year….The NCAA gives that title to Alabama,and rightfully so,however,the school does not claim it,again for the reasons stated above. It’s ten titles by any measure……

  24. Deb says: Feb 1, 2014 8:14 PM

    Yawn. We have 15 titles. Haters hate. Auburn whines. It is what it is.

    Roll Tide.

  25. suprmous says: Feb 4, 2014 12:40 AM

    rocket1988, havin 3 brothers plus others to play for the Tide I can remember many games. Those that CGs that weren’t noted b/c of the Coach’s Poll (due to the likes of ND’s Mr. Ara and the Ohio State’s Woody Hayes) were just as heartbreakin even to this LSU fan. I really felt bad for the brothers and their friends b/c they really played with all of their hearts in the game and had Coach Bryant and other coaches convinced they could be #1.

  26. manik56 says: Feb 26, 2014 1:12 AM

    1957 is Ohio State’s.

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