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Kliff Kingsbury takes shot at Nick Saban over rule proposal

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The recently-proposed defensive substitution rule is turning out to be a very divisive issue for college football coaches. An army of head men have come out against the proposal, which South Carolina’s Steve Spurrier has dubbed ‘The Saban Rule,’ since it was Alabama’s Nick Saban who publicly complained so much about uptempo offenses last season.

Texas Tech’s Kliff Kingsbury isn’t letting anyone forget the personal stake Saban has in the proposed rule:

“The last three losses he’s had had have been against up-tempo teams. I’ll leave it at that,” Kingsbury said on the Outside The Lines podcast.

“I was surprised that it got that far to be honest,” he continued. “And to put it under the guise of player safety when like everybody said there is no empirical data to back anything even close to that.”

“There is nothing to back that up, to say that if you play at a fast tempo and you’re not allowed a substitute that causes more injuries. Nobody’s ever done a study on that or there’s no scientific data.”

“I don’t know how you can found a rule on just hearsay, basically.”

Ouch. Kingsbury really knows how to pour salt in a wound, doesn’t he?

Whatever the case, there’s still time for the proposal to be withdrawn before it goes before the Playing Rules Oversight Panel on March 6. Will the weight of Saban’s stance be enough to counteract the opinions of so many other college coaches?

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30 Responses to “Kliff Kingsbury takes shot at Nick Saban over rule proposal”
  1. bender4700 says: Feb 23, 2014 11:10 AM

    Saban looks like a loser. He can’t beat the up tempo offense, so he has to take it down.

    But to be fair, what “Up Tempo” Offense won a title recently?

    Saban is still a turd.

  2. keltictim says: Feb 23, 2014 11:15 AM

    Sour grapes from a sour man.

  3. overratedgators says: Feb 23, 2014 11:32 AM

    Ryan Gosling is right.

  4. mantastic54 says: Feb 23, 2014 12:13 PM

    If guys want to be against the rule change that’s fine, but don’t say there is no evidence that up tempo offenses expose you to more injuries. The more plays that are run, the higher chance of seeing an injury

  5. goodfieldnohit says: Feb 23, 2014 12:24 PM

    Kliff:Hammer::Saban:Nail

  6. thraiderskin says: Feb 23, 2014 12:25 PM

    How come most of the people slamming Saban can’t even beat his team?

  7. txstatebobcats1868 says: Feb 23, 2014 12:32 PM

    well one, its the off season and no one is playing.. hey look, Oklahoma just scored again, and because alabama is too busy playing fcs teams every chance they get

  8. dg0122 says: Feb 23, 2014 12:48 PM

    Kliffy should probably worry about winning a game in the second half of the season and not tweaking Saban. Or which new sunglasses he should wear for their next loss

  9. dhardy8207 says: Feb 23, 2014 1:14 PM

    He was asked for his opinion and he expressed it. Because ever coach was given the opportunity to address the NCAA governoring body now it has become all Saban’s doing. Coaches commenting that don’t execute up tempo offenses sounds like someone is wanting to throw their .02 in anyway….

  10. dhardy8207 says: Feb 23, 2014 1:15 PM

    ^^ TYPO^^^ should have been “wasn’t given”

  11. goodfieldnohit says: Feb 23, 2014 1:33 PM

    “If guys want to be against the rule change that’s fine, but don’t say there is no evidence that up tempo offenses expose you to more injuries. The more plays that are run, the higher chance of seeing an injury”

    ——-

    Well, then let’s just not play the games at all. That way nobody will ever get hurt.

  12. mikefoxtrottango says: Feb 23, 2014 2:12 PM

    “How come most of the people slamming Saban can’t even beat his team?”

    You mean people like Kingsbury? He’s faced Saban only once as OC for Texas A&M.

    Guess what? Saban not only got beat, he trailed the whole game.

  13. kdbroom says: Feb 23, 2014 3:58 PM

    Hearsay? Bad word choice. “Speculation” would have been a more appropriate word.

    Saban does have somewhat of a point, but not for the reason he’s arguing (and his argument really is just sour grapes). Uptempo offenses lead to more plays, and more plays will lead to more injuries. However, that’s no different than saying that pass-only offenses lead to more injuries. More passes lead to either more first downs (which stops the clock) or more incompletes (which also stop the clock). Both will lead to games with more plays, and therefore more injuries. However, that doesn’t mean passing leads to injuries (just like arguing uptempo leads to injuries).

    Bottom line, Saban doesn’t like the uptempo offenses, he has had trouble stopping them, and he isn’t afraid of using the injury argument to push his agenda. He just needs to adapt and shut up.

  14. whydoupost says: Feb 23, 2014 5:42 PM

    I’ll bet Saban doesn’t continue to lose to up tempo offenses! He’ll adjust and win. He’s the most detailed coach with the best athletes!

  15. suprmous says: Feb 23, 2014 5:56 PM

    Will this ever end?

  16. JackedUpSports says: Feb 23, 2014 6:17 PM

    kingsbury’s the man

  17. thraiderskin says: Feb 23, 2014 7:56 PM

    I forgot Kingsbury was the OC at A&M the previous season (my bad)… However, there are still a lot of guys complaining about Saban that have not had the pleasure of actually beating him. I think the purposed rule was flawed, but I also think the direction that football is heading is pathetic. Call me old, but I still think the game is about who is the better football team, not the better track team.

  18. goodfieldnohit says: Feb 23, 2014 11:05 PM

    Sumlin, Stoops, and Malzahn have all beaten Saban in the last 2 seasons. Each of these coaches are against Saban’s Rules. And so is every other coach in America not named Bielema.

  19. chunkala says: Feb 23, 2014 11:06 PM

    I forgot, how many TDs get Kingsbury throw in the 2012 game against Alabama? I’m pretty sure their success had more to do with Manziel than with Kliff’s play calling.
    Kliff Kingsbury – one of many successful former Big 12 QBs in the NFL. Oh wait, there hasn’t been any (Jury is still out on Griffin).

  20. normtide says: Feb 24, 2014 1:58 AM

    Not really for this rule, without any data. I feel there is a defense to stop every offense.

    But, you should check Saban’s record against up tempo teams. He has won more than he has lost. Including a shut out against ole miss and an offensive shut out against Gus’s offense. Both are innovators of the HUNH. Do a little research before jumping on a fake narrative. It undermines the valid parts of your argument.

    As for Kliff, drop the Hollywood in Texas image before I take you serious.

  21. mediocrebob says: Feb 24, 2014 8:26 AM

    Didn’t Saban beat A&M last year? Wasn’t A&M running that same up tempo offense?

    I understand throwing it all on Saban. We all wish he was our programs coach. I get it. But you all sound pathetic. Saban is the best coach in the country for a reason. Stop your bitching.

  22. 8to80texansblog says: Feb 24, 2014 12:06 PM

    bender4700 says:
    Feb 23, 2014 11:10 AM

    Saban looks like a loser. He can’t beat the up tempo offense, so he has to take it down.

    But to be fair, what “Up Tempo” Offense won a title recently?
    ___________________________

    Auburn won a title in 2010 with a very similar offense to what they run now.

  23. 8to80texansblog says: Feb 24, 2014 12:09 PM

    chunkala says:
    Feb 23, 2014 11:06 PM

    I forgot, how many TDs get Kingsbury throw in the 2012 game against Alabama? I’m pretty sure their success had more to do with Manziel than with Kliff’s play calling.
    Kliff Kingsbury
    ___________________________
    You didn’t watch that game then…. Kingsbury had Smart’s number from the getgo in that game.

    It wasn’t just Manziel. The running game was gashing Bama early, and the pace of play killed them late. Watch the 4th qtr of that game again. Bama defense is gassed.

  24. normtide says: Feb 24, 2014 12:23 PM

    Then Bama beat A&M’s up tempo this year. Check Saban’s record against HUNH. It’s actually pretty good. Also, Saban was asked to come speak. This rule is Brett’s baby.

  25. 8to80texansblog says: Feb 24, 2014 12:41 PM

    normtide says:
    Feb 24, 2014 12:23 PM

    Then Bama beat A&M’s up tempo this year. Check Saban’s record against HUNH. It’s actually pretty good. Also, Saban was asked to come speak. This rule is Brett’s baby.
    _____________________________

    A&M scored 42 and put up over 600 yards of offense… I wouldn’t exactly say that Bama “beat” an uptempo offense there… They beat a very bad defense. Had A&M had anything resembling an SEC defense, the outcome of that game could have been very different… and I think you know that…

  26. lakesidegator says: Feb 24, 2014 1:12 PM

    There is really no basis in an objective reality for any defense of Nick Saban whatsoever. Even in religious terms: Sab/tan was cast down from Heaven. Are you guys really wanting to align yourselves against reality and religion?

  27. kansacity88 says: Feb 24, 2014 1:20 PM

    B-B-But, w-what I dont understand is why Alabama’s offense cant pick up the slack. Okay, so the defense is getting tired….his (Bama) offense and THEIR (opponent) defense is off the field for the exact same amount of time. Just score right along with them!!!! How is it that other teams CAN beat these uptempo offenses and Bama cant? I mean, like another poster above stated, (well…..besides Auburn back in 2010) what OTHER uptempo offense has won a title? Were there not any uptempo offenses back when Bama was winning B2B titles? I mean, c’mon man…..I respect Saban (and I know they asked him to come and talk) but seriously, if you wanna relate injuries to uptempo offenses, then what about THE OFFENSE??? They are just as susceptible. But you dont hear them complaining about it.

  28. normtide says: Feb 24, 2014 4:21 PM

    If is a dangerous word. If Bama would have tackled Johnny when they had a hold on him, like LSU did, it would have been a blow out. That’s the thing about if’s, you have to apply them to both sides.

    I’m convinced the thing you need to beat the up tempo is a great offensive line. Ball control is key, as is wearing down that teams defense. I’ve always said that was the knock on the up tempo. I can’t think of a single hunh team with a great defense.

  29. normtide says: Feb 24, 2014 7:15 PM

    Great article about the proposed rule change. It would only affect about four plays a game.

    http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2014/will-muschamp-10-second-proposal/

  30. djbillyd says: Feb 26, 2014 10:40 AM

    This is all going to be a moot point when Sabam and Smart beats the lard out of these “up tempo” teams. And it will happen, THIS YEAR…

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