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Pete Carroll still has issues with how NCAA handled USC

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Shortly after USC was slapped with near-historic NCAA sanctions in relation to the Reggie Bush scandal, Pete Carroll, who by sheer coincidence (winkwinknudgenudge) fled the Trojans for the NFL a few months earlier, lashed out at the NCAA for what he felt were heavy-handed and unfair penalties levied against his former football program.

Nearly four years later, Carroll’s still miffed.

While acknowledging USC “made some mistakes along the way,” the head coach of the reigning Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks insisted Wednesday that the “venom” in which the NCAA pursued the case led to The Association making “a terrible error” and was a situation that “was dealt with poorly and very irrationally and done with way too much emotion instead of facts.”

In June of 2010, the NCAA announced the Trojans would be stripped of 30 scholarships over a three-year period and subject to a two-year bowl ban.  The sanctions were the result of a lengthy investigation — some, including Carroll, might call it an extended vendetta — that revealed Bush had received upwards of $300,000 in illegal benefits while the running back was a member of Carroll’s football program.

The NCAA found that Carroll’s running backs coach at the time, Todd McNair, was aware of the impermissible benefits, slapping the assistant with a one-year show-cause after he “provided false and misleading information to the enforcement staff” and “violated NCAA legislation by signing a document certifying that he had no knowledge of NCAA violations.”

We just didn’t know what was going on,” Carroll said according to the Los Angeles Times following a public appearance at his former school Wednesday. “Had we known I would like to think we would do the right thing and would have stopped everything and fixed it by doing what we should have done. But unfortunately, because we didn’t know, the university gets killed over the deal.”

As the Times notes, USC is in the final months of four years worth of penalties levied by the NCAA.

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25 Responses to “Pete Carroll still has issues with how NCAA handled USC”
  1. cajunirish says: Feb 27, 2014 12:05 PM

    He didn’t know, which explains exactly why he ran as fast as he could before the world came crashing down around his program. Good job leaving your players to deal with what was partly your problem by themselves. Stay classy Pete

  2. classyjacklambert says: Feb 27, 2014 12:12 PM

    Carroll is a scumbag, just look at all the violations Seattle has had since he got there.

  3. tampabayirish says: Feb 27, 2014 12:21 PM

    Pete was dirty…I still like him. Great judge of talent. In that sense, he reminds me of Jimmy Johnson. Those guys knew a football player when they saw one.

  4. friarjack61 says: Feb 27, 2014 12:33 PM

    Pete Carroll is a jerk. Reggie Bush, came from a poor family, but had a new $50,000 SUV, and lived on the beach, and HE, never questioned, how his ‘student’/jock, can afford this off-campus living. Just turn, you head, don’t ask questions, and the winning season, will not be interrupted…but the end result to both he and Bush, proves that Pete is a self-centered jerk.

  5. seahawksbmx says: Feb 27, 2014 1:01 PM

    Research “A Better LA” and “A Better Seattle” and then tell me how the word “scumbag” in any way applies to Pete.
    Oh, you’re an armchair humanitarian…tell me more about how much you’re doing to improve YOUR community.

  6. raiderufan says: Feb 27, 2014 1:13 PM

    Someone, needs, a, lesson, in, the, use, of, commas

  7. dhalb34 says: Feb 27, 2014 1:25 PM

    I think Carrol was absolved of any wrong doing, so shut your mouths and be thankful he left the college ranks so he’d stop punishing your sorry ass universities on the field and on the trail. Why don’t you direct your venom towards Reggie Bush, OJ Mayo, and Reggie’s parents. Jackasses.

  8. spreadthecheese says: Feb 27, 2014 1:28 PM

    Pete Caroll says, “I got hired by the Seahawks because of my experience paying players at USC. It was resume-building, that’s all.”

  9. classyjacklambert says: Feb 27, 2014 1:31 PM

    Actually I’m a pretty constant fixture at habitat for humanity home builds, I volunteer at soup kitchens with my family during holidays, and I have never left any situation in a utter state of chaos or promoted unethical behavior like Pete Carroll has… So boom.

  10. chalkruz1989 says: Feb 27, 2014 1:47 PM

    As a USC fan I can understand the hatred that college football fans have for Pete Carroll and the squads that won two national championships.

    But, remove your hate and be honest with yourself. The Trojans were hit so hard because of the success under Carroll. Miami was comitting familiar violations and they received a tap on the wrist.

    The PSU scandal was egregious but the sanctions were nearly identical to one another.

    It’s easy to determine that the NCAA is a group of individuals that cleary is out of touch and just not professional.

  11. olskool711 says: Feb 27, 2014 2:08 PM

    I’m not a Pete Carroll, USC, or Seattle fan.

    But, he’s right. Spot on.

    The NCAA has a long history of doing what they did to USC, to other schools. No method to their madness. No explanation.

    Corruption is about power, not about truth and justice. The NCAA has been one of the least American of all the organizations that exist in America. They operate with a set of values that cause the mafia to shake their heads.

    I would love, someday, to see the NCAA have to pay for the unwarranted pain they have caused people.

  12. pacific123ocean says: Feb 27, 2014 2:21 PM

    The issue is not about Pete Carroll. It is about the NCAA. You can love him or hate him, but you can’t dispute that the USC sanctions were way out of line.

    You just have to compare the sanctions handed down to Miami, Ohio State,North Carolina, Oregon, et al, to see that the USC sanctions were wrong.

  13. irishdodger says: Feb 27, 2014 2:51 PM

    As an ND fan, I have no love for Poodle or SC but I can give credit where credit is due. Pete Carroll took SC from an underachieving also-ran under Paul Hackett to a friggin’ dynasty of the first decade of the 2000s. They were what Bama is now. Even when they played SEC teams during their reign, they destroyed them (see Auburn & Arkansas). He had it going and seemed to be like a helluva fun coach to play for. He still does.

  14. eidolon21 says: Feb 27, 2014 3:11 PM

    carroll and that joke of an AD they had were blatant cheaters
    They got caught Carroll ran and the AD got fired.
    this new stuff is all spin to try a rewrite history.

  15. normtide says: Feb 27, 2014 3:57 PM

    I have to agree with chulk, Bama goes through the same thing right now. As far as blind hate goes.

    I’ve always thought they were hit so hard because the NCAA thought there was a cover up. If you look at player trouble, the NCAA usually punishes the cover up, not the offense.

    That said, I wish USC the best. I like the upper crust trans. While I’m not sure Sark is the guy to do it, I hope he can at least get on the right track.

  16. meatcarroll says: Feb 27, 2014 4:23 PM

    Actually, Carroll jumped ship because the Seahawks were the only team that offered him final say over all roster decisions in addition to head coaching duties. NFL teams approached him many times over the years with head coaching offers and he entertained a few interviews but they all fell through because he was steadfast in his public condition that he wouldn’t return to the NFL unless he had almost unprecedented control of a team like he did at USC.

    The NCAA had been lackadaisically continuing this vindictive witch hunt for years with no indication they were close to finishing or if they had a timetable. They accelerated their conclusion and hastily crammed together a report in response to him joining the Seahawks.

  17. nawlinssaints1956 says: Feb 27, 2014 4:23 PM

    Not two NC’s chalkruz, just one. The crystal football for the other one is in Baton Rouge…

  18. granitehead says: Feb 27, 2014 5:15 PM

    I don’t know what you guys are smoking but to think that Peetey did not know anything about what RB was doing is crazy. He left because he saw what was coming and did not want any part of it. Success while cheating, is that what success really is. Is he a good coach ? I would say yes, but he is also arrogant and as stated above a scumbag

  19. Professor Fate says: Feb 27, 2014 5:51 PM

    Two “irish,” a “friar,” and the class(less)jacklambert claiming Carroll was the man at fault here. One assistant (McNair) and one player (Bush): Bush getting bennies 150 miles from campus that perhaps McNair knew about.

    Some facts for those insisting on making up their own:

    In the above article all of the benefits Bush took were directed towards staying at hotels and resorts in Las Vegas, San Diego, San Francisco, etc. Nothing in the L.A. area. Bush allegedly got $13,000 to buy and modify an SUV. Certainly not a $50,000 vehicle as claimed in a post above. Bush got money to buy clothes for his family, to stay in a San Diego-area mansion, to help settle his family’s debts, etc. Naturally the naysayers, along with the almighty NCAA, like to claim that the university should have known about all this despite the fact that the head of the investigation (Paul Dee) had no clue about all the violations going on at his own university (Miami).

    Carroll had every intention of returning to the NFL. Anyone who doubts that has no knowledge of the man. He left USC five months before the NCAA hammer came down and he was never charged by the NCAA with any violations.

    This “investigation” was merged with one regarding several other USC athletic teams (basketball, tennis). The NCAA chose to put the majority of its “punishment” on the football program.

    There’s no point in debunking fools who think the NCAA did the right thing in allowing Dee to destroy USC football. The stink of hypocrisy out of the NCAA is almost as pungent as the attempts to defend that miscarriage of justice. Plenty of unbiased, nationally-recognized sports journalists have already weighed in by agreeing that this was a witch hunt by the Dee-led NCAA.

    It’s done. It was wrong, but the lost years cannot be recovered. Sarkisian gets to start anew and has already begun by recruiting one of the top classes in the nation. The Trojans will be back near the top very soon and then the haters can go back to whining about that.

  20. classyjacklambert says: Feb 27, 2014 6:26 PM

    Yes I’m clearly very classless because you disagree with me and I do a lot of volunteer work.

  21. truthsaez says: Mar 1, 2014 1:01 PM

    For all you Trojan fans, Joe McKnight made you get punished, Bush was the excuse but the NCAA wanted a pound of flesh. Move On! I’ve been a part of USC since before birth, because my dad was educated there along with rest of family. To the haters who can’t stand Pete, your missing information which can help you rise out of your mediocrity. Stop hating the pimp, get over the pimp slap, bring some real talk and not that ” I lost my mortgage and use my mother’s computer ” talk.

  22. normtide says: Mar 1, 2014 4:37 PM

    People hate Pete for the same reason they hate Saban. Because they win, pain and simple. The sad part is, if your successful in this country, your accused of cheating. Others won’t accept the fact that they are just better and work harder at what they do. You see it in politics now. A drive to reward the mediocre. To give to those who refuse to work hard and dedicate themselves. A backlash against those who do.

  23. swu32733 says: Mar 1, 2014 8:40 PM

    One has to admit that the NCAA went after USC with a lot of venom while gently slapping Oregon on the wrist for violations. Why is that?

  24. normtide says: Mar 1, 2014 10:31 PM

    It’s the cover up that kills you. The NCAA thought there was one. That’s why OSU was hit hard. I’m not saying USC did cover it up, just that the NCAA figured they did. Personally I prefer that policy. I’m sick of the days where a rouge booster or single player acting without the programs knowledge crushing their schools.

  25. mauitony says: Mar 1, 2014 11:00 PM

    People will hate him; people will love him. Bottom line- Pete wins!

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