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Baylor adds 2019 game against… University of the Incarnate Word?

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With the start of the College Football Playoff looming, most football programs are looking to beef up their non-conference slates in anticipation of the new system relying, at least in part, on strength of schedule.  Baylor, on the other hand, has decided to cake up its future schedules.

The University of the Incarnate Word announced Monday that it has scheduled a 2019 game against the Bears in Waco.  The game will be played Aug. 31 in McLane Stadium, which is currently under construction.

UIW founded its football program in 2007 and played at the Div. II level before moving up to the FCS in 2013.

“Playing Baylor in football is just another exciting step in the growth and expansion of the UIW Brand,” UIW athletic director Mark Papich said in a statement. “We have always maintained that the move to NCAA Division I would be in line with the goals we strive for spiritually and academically. We want our student-athletes to reach for something more, to be challenged on a daily basis and to leave UIW stronger in their faith and knowledge with a sense of accomplishment for accepting those challenges.”

UIW joins UT-San Antonio and Rice as non-conference 2019 opponents.  Between 2014 and 2019, Baylor has just two non-conference games scheduled against programs from the five power conferences: a home-and-home with Duke in 2017 and 2018.

(Tip O’ the Cap: FBSchedules.com)

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52 Responses to “Baylor adds 2019 game against… University of the Incarnate Word?”
  1. normtide says: Mar 17, 2014 10:07 PM

    Please tell me again about the SEC’s weak OOC schedules.

  2. goodfieldnohit says: Mar 17, 2014 10:50 PM

    Incarnate Word University is in San Antonio. My mother is an English professor there. Incarnate Word would lose to Converse Judson or Alamo Heights High Schools by at least 2 TD’s.

    This isn’t Larry Coker’s UTSA that Baylor has scheduled. This is a team that legitimately would get beat by the elite high schools in town.

    Meanwhile, Texas A&M schedules Arizona State and UCLA.

  3. Professor Fate says: Mar 17, 2014 10:54 PM

    norm-
    Another school emulating many SEC schools’ weak OOC schedules doesn’t make those schedules any less weak.

    It would appear that few schools are taking the upcoming strength-of-schedule component very seriously. Too bad for college football.

  4. goodfieldnohit says: Mar 17, 2014 10:54 PM

    The Brazos River is never blue. Never.

    [img]http://www.uiwcardinals.com/images/2014/3/17/rp_primary_SaveTheDate.jpg[/img]

  5. drummerhoff says: Mar 17, 2014 11:06 PM

    Corruption.

  6. bender4700 says: Mar 17, 2014 11:18 PM

    Norm,

    The SEC WOULD schedule this game, but in November.

    Look at the SEC schedules.

    SEC schools play cupcakes when everyone else is playing in conference games.

  7. thefiesty1 says: Mar 17, 2014 11:40 PM

    Talk about playing the sisters of the poor. They won’t even sell out the new 45,000 seat stadium. Ho Humm!

  8. germanflats13a38 says: Mar 17, 2014 11:42 PM

    SEC is playing quality OOC games while the other leagues are playing glorified scrimmages.

  9. germanflats13a38 says: Mar 17, 2014 11:47 PM

    ..or, SEC is playing conference games the first week while other conferences are playing their warmup games.

  10. clemsonstillsucks says: Mar 18, 2014 12:07 AM

    Bet Oregon or Ohio State schedule them next…

  11. goodfieldnohit says: Mar 18, 2014 12:18 AM

    Again, for you people who are slow to comprehend:

    Texas A&M schedules Arizona State and UCLA.

    Last time I looked, Texas A&M is in the SEC.

    Last year, LSU opened the season with vaunted TCU.

    You people are nothing more than a bunch of haters, as your scheduling smack is clearly unfounded.

  12. steeler1nation says: Mar 18, 2014 12:38 AM

    South Carolina is a perennial underachieving joke.

  13. Professor Fate says: Mar 18, 2014 12:42 AM

    ESPN’s rankings of SEC schools’ OOC schedules (hardest to easiest):

    1) South Carolina:
    8/29 vs. North Carolina at home, 11/23 vs. Coastal Carolina at home. Credit for traveling to UCF on 9/28 and hosting Clemson 11/30.

    2) Florida:
    8/31 vs. Toledo at home, 9/7 at Miami, 11/23 vs. Georgia Southern at home, credit for playing Florida State 11/30 (at home). Florida doesn’t leave the state for an OOC game for the 21st consecutive year.

    3) Georgia:
    9/21 vs. North Texas at home, 11/9 vs. Appalachian State at home, 11/30 at Georgia Tech, credit for going to Clemson 8/31.

    4) Tennessee:
    8/31 vs. Austin Peay at home, 9/7 vs. Western Kentucky at home, 9/28 vs. South Alabama at home, credit for going to Oregon 9/14.

    5) Ole Miss:
    9/7 vs. Southeast Missouri at home, 10/26 vs. Idaho at home, 11/16 vs. Troy at home, credit for going to Texas 9/14.

    6) LSU:
    9/7 vs. UAB at home, 9/14 vs. Kent State at home, 10/26 vs. Furman at home, credit for going to TCU 9/31.

    7) Miss State:
    9/7 vs. Alcorn State at home, 9/21 vs. Troy at home, 10/12 vs. Bowling Green at home, credit for going to Houston 8/31 vs. Oklahoma State.

    8) Kentucky:
    8/31 vs. Western Kentucky in Nashville, 9/7 vs. Miami (Ohio) at home, 11/2 vs. Alabama State at home, credit for hosting Louisville 9/14.

    9) Arkansas:
    8/31 vs. Louisiana-Lafayette at home, 9/7 vs. Samford in Little Rock, 9/14 vs. Southern Miss at home, credit for going to Rutgers 9/21.

    10) Alabama:
    9/21 vs. Colorado State at home, 10/5 vs. Georgia State at home, 11/23 vs. Chattanooga at home, credit for going to Atlanta 8/31 vs. Virginia Tech (but not much).

    11) Missouri:
    8/31 vs. Murray State at home, 9/7 vs. Toledo at home, 9/21 at Indiana, 9/28 Arkansas State at home.

    12) Vanderbilt:
    9/7 vs. Austin Peay at home, 9/21 at UMass, 9/28 vs. UAB at home, 11/30 vs. Wake Forest at home.

    13) Auburn:
    8/31 vs. Washington State at home, 9/7 vs. Arkansas State at home, 10/12 vs. Western Carolina at home, 10/26 vs. Florida Atlantic at home.

    14) Texas A&M:
    8/31 vs. Rice at home, 9/7 vs. Sam Houston State at home, 9/21 vs. SMU at home, 11/2 vs. UTEP at home.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/65864/ranking-the-secs-nonconference-slates-2

    germanflats- What was that you were saying about “quality OOC games?” A total of 10 or 11 “quality” games among 14 teams is pretty thin.

    An average of less than one quality opponent per team in the SEC in OOC games pales against all the creampuffs scheduled. The SEC rarely travels and pads its record against FCS teams and poor FBS teams every year.

    I found it interesting that this was put out by ESPN, since the SEC is their college football cash cow, but they condoned it because of the “grueling” conference schedule.

    ESPN has a monetary interest in seeing the SEC in as many top-tier bowl games as possible, which is why they rank SEC teams as highly as they do. When an SEC team beats another SEC team it’s all about how tough the conference is.

    Yet the SEC rarely plays good teams outside of that conference, which makes it difficult for unbiased observers to ascertain just where it should rank. We’ll see if the strength-of-schedule component in the new rankings system has any teeth.

    http://www.thepostgame.com/commentary/201208/better-without-em-northern-manifesto-southern-secession-chuck-thompson-sec-bcs

  14. Professor Fate says: Mar 18, 2014 12:44 AM

    I have no idea where that goofy tag came from in place of Kentucky’s #8 ranking.

  15. thegonz13 says: Mar 18, 2014 6:43 AM

    Oh, come on! The SEC is not the only conferece to schedule cupcakes and we all know it. It’s been done by all major schools since the dawn of time.

    Everyone likes it. Big schools need it to at the very least pad stats for their star players and smaller schools want the big payday for a bodybag match.

    Give the trolling a break, guys!

  16. dg0122 says: Mar 18, 2014 7:51 AM

    This is truly the Little Sisters of the Poor.
    But all you $EC honks- they are following the example

  17. normtide says: Mar 18, 2014 7:56 AM

    Fate- look at the SOS for OSU, Washington, and every other school. B1g plays the MAC. Pac plays more fbs than anyone. Most SEC teams start the season with a big game. Bama, Auburn, and LSU always do. Then play an SEC slate. If you think SEC teams will be left out of the playoff, your not much of a professor. The SEC champ is in, and probably the second best team too. On the whole, the PAC is much improved. But, the SEC west alone would still be the toughest league in the game. Bama, Auburn, LSU, and A&M all play each other. Show me another league that can match that, much less a division.

  18. normtide says: Mar 18, 2014 7:57 AM

    Pac plays more fcs. Coffee not kicked in.

  19. kansacity88 says: Mar 18, 2014 9:03 AM

    Wait, is this a joke? *looks at calendar to make sure it’s not April 1st*

  20. dmarado says: Mar 18, 2014 10:04 AM

    Whenever the “cupcake” discussion comes up, logic goes out the window and emotion rules the day. What people fail to realize often is that big schools like an Ohio State or Georgia schedule these teams to benefit the state educational systems to which they are the flagship institutions. Why should tOSU give millions of revenue away to neighboring or far-flung institutions when it can keep the money in state? Would it be cool if a Florida traveled to play an Oregon once in a while? Sure, but usually it doesn’t make financial sense to do so.

  21. 8to80texansblog says: Mar 18, 2014 10:20 AM

    dmarado says:
    Mar 18, 2014 10:04 AM

    Would it be cool if a Florida traveled to play an Oregon once in a while? Sure, but usually it doesn’t make financial sense to do so.
    _________________________________
    Oh you mean like A&M is doing in a few years…

    Or what about travelling to play UCLA at the Rose Bowl? That would be cool…

  22. 8to80texansblog says: Mar 18, 2014 10:21 AM

    I wonder if Baylor will score 100 that game….

  23. Professor Fate says: Mar 18, 2014 11:15 AM

    Remedial class is in session-

    thegonz13-
    No, not every school schedules FCS teams. Notre Dame, UCLA, and USC have never scheduled an FCS school. Ever. The point isn’t just scheduling FCS schools to pad the win column, it’s also scheduling bad OOC FBS teams. Teams that perennially bad.

    norm-
    “Most SEC teams start the season with a big game.” Six teams this year open with a game against similar competition. Seven if you count West Virginia, which likely won’t be competitive against Alabama. Generally the word “most” is indicative of more than half. Credit for your attempt to obfuscate my original point.

    “If you think SEC teams will be left out of the playoff, your not much of a professor.” At no time in my post did I infer anyone would be left out of a playoff. Since you confer actual Professor status on me (the name is from a character in the movie “The Great Race”) allow me to point out that you have misused the word “you’re.” Please write that 100 times on the blackboard.

    In 2013 106 of the 125 FBS schools (85%) played at least one game against an FCS school. Two schools, Clemson and Georgia Tech, played two FCS schools.

    Last year there were 19 FBS schools without an FCS school on their schedule: FAU, Hawaii, Miami (OH), Michigan, New Mexico, North Texas, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Penn State, Rice, Southern Miss, Stanford, Texas, Tulsa, UCF, UCLA, USC, UTEP, UTSA.

    2013 games against FCS competition by conference:
    ACC – 16
    Big 12 – 8
    Big East – 9
    Big Ten – 10
    C-USA – 7
    Independents – 4
    MAC – 12
    MWC – 10
    Pac-12 – 9
    SEC – 14
    Sun Belt – 10

    So, norm, as of last year the SEC played 14 FCS schools while the PAC12 played 9.

    The point in posting these facts was simply to illustrate that some teams use inferior competition to inflate their records. I would prefer to see the strength-of-schedule component in the new rankings system to have a larger influence than it appears to so far.

    Regular season games at the FBS level would be more entertaining, as well as more meaningful, if that s-o-s component encourages teams to schedule games against FBS opponents. I understand that games are often scheduled years in advance, so it may take awhile before those FCS cupcakes drop off of FBS schools’ schedules.

    For your homework I want you to use your computer to research this year’s upcoming games and see for yourself which teams in FBS have the more difficult schedules. I know, you’ll have to forego streaming your favorite TV shows for an hour, but you’ll likely survive. We won’t even discuss the porn you’ll be missing out on.

  24. lottsmissingfinger says: Mar 18, 2014 11:39 AM

    The Big12 FCS opponents are inflated by K-State and Tech – routinely ranked at the bottom of Big 12 schedule difficulty.

    Texas doesn’t play FCS schools. On their upcoming schedules: UCLA, USC, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Arkansas, and Cal.

  25. 8to80texansblog says: Mar 18, 2014 12:07 PM

    Let’s see…. A&M’s schedule the next few years

    Oregon (home and home), UCLA (home and home), Arizona St (in Texas)… oh yeah and
    Bama, LSU, Auburn, and South Carolina….

    I’ll give you that Texas hasn’t been playing FCS schools for a while now, and A&M plays one every year seemingly, but Texas’ conference murderers row is OU, Ok St., and Baylor….. doesn’t even compare….

  26. 8to80texansblog says: Mar 18, 2014 12:09 PM

    I went and looked and I’ll admit UT’s OOC isn’t bad at all.

  27. germanflats13a38 says: Mar 18, 2014 12:12 PM

    @Professor Fate

    You never addressed my point that most conferences play their OOC during the first four (4) weeks of the year, while the SEC spreads them out. Also, you never addressed the point that the SEC attempts to schedule a tough game during the first (4) weeks of the season, if not the first two (2) weeks.

    For example:

    Alabama played (VTech, Texas A&M, Colorado St., Ole Miss.) v.

    Ohio St. (Buffalo, San Diego, California ,Florida A&M) or

    Penn. St. (Syracuse, Eastern Michigan, UCF, Kent St) or

    Michigan St. (Western Michigan, South Florida, Youngstown St., Notre Dame)

    To address your point by comparison:

    1) Illinois:

    08/31 vs. Southern Illinois at home, 09/07 vs. Cincinnati at home, 09/14 vs. Washington at home (L), 09/28 vs. Miami-OH. Credit for hosting Washington (lose). All games played at home, during first four (4) weeks of the season.

    2) Indiana

    08/29 vs. Indiana St. at home, 09/07 vs. Navy at home (L), 09/14 vs. Bowling Green at home, 09/21 vs. Missouri at home (L). Credit for hosting Navy and Missouri (both losses). All games played at home during first four (4) weeks of the season.

    3) Iowa

    08/31 vs. Northern Illinois at home (L), 09/07 vs. Missouri St. at home, 09/14 vs. Iowa State on the road, 09/21 vs. Western Michigan at home. Credit for playing Iowa St. on the road. Three (3) home games during first four (4) weeks of the season., with one (1) loss.

    4) Michigan

    08/31 vs. Central Michigan at home, 09/07 vs. Notre Dame at home, 09/14 vs. Akron at home, 09/21 vs. Connecticut on the road. Credit for playing Notre Dame. Three (3) home games during first four (4) weeks of the season.

    5) Michigan St.

    08/30 vs. Western Michigan at home, 09/07 vs. South Florida at home, 09/14 vs. Youngstown St. at home, 09/21 vs. Notre Dame on the road (L). Credit for road game with Notre Dame. Three (3) home games during first four (4) weeks of the season.

    6) Minnesota

    08/29 vs. UNLV at home, 09/07 vs. New Mexico St. on the road, 09/14 vs. Western Illinois at home, 09/21 vs. San Jose St. at home. Three (3) home games during first four (4) weeks of the season.

    7) Nebraska

    08/31 vs. Wyoming at home, 09/07 vs. Southern Miss. at home, 09/14 vs. UCLA at home, 09/21 vs. So. Dakota St. at home. Credit for playing UCLA. All games played at home during first four (4) weeks of the season.

    8) Northwestern

    08/31 vs. California on the road, 09/07 Syracuse at home, 09/14 vs. Western Michigan at home, 09/21 at Maine at home. Credit for playing California and Syracuse. Three (3) home games during first four (4) weeks of the season.

    9) Ohio St.

    08/31 vs. Buffalo at home, 09/07 vs. San Diego St. at home, 09/14 vs. California on the road, 09/21 vs. Florida A&M at home. Credit for playing California. Three (3) home games during first four (4) weeks of the season.

    10) Penn. St.

    08/31 vs. Syracuse on the road, 09/07 vs. Eastern Michigan at home, 09/14 vs. UCF on the road (L), 09/21 vs. Kent St. at home. Credit for playing Syracuse and UCF. Three (3) home games during first four (4) weeks of the season.

    11) Purdue

    08/31 vs. Cincinnati on the road (L), 09/07 vs. Indiana St. at home, 09/14 vs. Notre Dame at home (L), 09/28 vs. Northern Illinois at home (L). Credit for playing Notre Dame. Only two (2) home games during first four (4) weeks of the season, and fourth OOC game played during fifth week.

    12) Wisconsin

    08/31 vs. UMass at home, 09/07 vs. Tennessee Tech at home, 09/14 vs. Arizona State on the road (L), 11/09 vs. BYU at home. Credit for playing Arizona St. Only two (2) home games during first four (4) weeks of the season, and fourth OOC game played as ninth game.

    You claimed that SEC on played 10-11 quality OOC games, when it played 15 teams from one of the major conferences. I notice that six (6) SEC teams lost a total of nine (9) OOC games during that schedule. I notice that the BIG-10 played 14 teams from one of the major conferences (+Notre Dame) during its OOC schedule, but only 8-9 of them probably qualify as quality pursuant to your criteria (which was not established). I notice that five (5) BIG-10 teams lost a total of eight (8) OOC games during that schedule.

    ESPN has a monetary interest in the BIG-10 as well. Last time I looked, ESPN had a vested interest in college football, and their influence touches all of the conferences.

    Did ESPN push the SEC before the SEC started to win, or vice versa. I seem to remember the BIG-10 being the darling of ESPN from 1985-2006.

    If you’re interested, my favorite team is not in the SEC, and it is awful at football presently. You might be able to figure it out.

  28. 8to80texansblog says: Mar 18, 2014 12:25 PM

    What I’ve learned from these posts

    “8″ right next to “)” = 8)

  29. dmarado says: Mar 18, 2014 12:57 PM

    Oh you mean like A&M is doing in a few years…

    Or what about travelling to play UCLA at the Rose Bowl? That would be cool…

    ____________________________________

    Until then, Lamar (???), Rice, and Louisiana Monroe. No one aside from ND and some PAC 12 schools schedules tougher than others.

  30. germanflats13a38 says: Mar 18, 2014 2:31 PM

    PAC-12 (Three OOC games and nine conference games)

    1) Arizona

    08/30 vs. Northern Arizona at home, 09/07 vs. UNLV on the road, 09/14 vs. UTSA at home, 09/28 vs. Washington. Two (2) home and two (2) away games. Only three (3) OOC games. All OOC taken first three (3) weeks of the season.

    2) Arizona St.

    09/05 vs. CS Sacramento at home, 09/14 vs. Wisconsin at home, 09/21 vs. Stanford on the road, 10/05 Notre Dame on the road (L). Two (2) home and two (2) away games. Only three (3) OOC games. Credit for playing Wisconsin and Notre Dame. Two (2) OOC taken first two (2) weeks of the season.

    3) California

    08/31 vs. Northwestern at home (L), 09/07 vs. Portland St. at home, 09/14 vs. Ohio State at home (L), 09/28 vs. Oregon on the road. Three (3) home and one (1) away games. Only three (3) OOC games. Credit for playing Northwestern and Ohio St. All OOC taken first three (3) weeks of the season.

    4) Colorado

    09/01 vs. Colorado St. on the road, 09/07 vs. Central Ark at home, 09/14 vs. Fresno St. at home (CANCELLED – ?), 09/28 vs. Oregon St., 10/19 vs. Charleston Southern. Two (2) home and one (1) away game. Only three (3) OOC games. Two (2) OOC taken first two (2) weeks of the season.

    5) Oregon

    08/31 vs. Nicholls St. at home, 09/07 vs. Virginia on the road, 09/14 vs. Tennessee at home, 09/28 vs California at home. Three (3) home games and one (1) road game. Only (3) OOC games. Credit for playing Virginia and Tennessee. All OOC taken first three (3) weeks of the season.

    6) Oregon St.

    08/31 vs. E. Washington at home (L), 09/07 vs. Hawaii at home, 09/14 vs. Utah on the road, 09/21 vs. San Diego St. at home. Three (3) home games and one (1) road game. Only three (3) OOC games. Two (2) OOC taken first two (2) weeks of the season, and third OOC game taken fourth week.

    7) Stanford

    09/07 vs. San Jose St. at home, 09/14 vs Army on the road, 09/21 vs. Arizona St. at home, 11/30 vs. Notre Dame at home. Three (3) home games and one (1) road game. Only three (3) OOC games. Credit for playing Notre Dame. Two (2) OOC taken first two (2) weeks of the season, and third OOC game taken fourth week.

    8) UCLA

    08/31 vs. Nevada at home, 09/14 vs. Nebraska on the road, 09/21 vs. New Mexico St. at home, 10/03 vs. Utah on the road. Two (2) home and two (2) away games. Only three (3) OOC games. Credit for Nebraska. All OOC taken first three (3) weeks of the season.

    9) USC

    08/29 vs. Hawaii on the road, 09/07 vs. Washington St. at home (L), 09/14 vs. Boston College at home, 09/21 vs. Utah St. at home. Three (3) home and one (1) away games. Only three (3) OOC games. Credit for Boston College. Two (2) OOC taken first two (2) weeks of the season, and third taken fourth week.

    10) Utah

    08/29 vs. Utah St. at home, 09/07 vs. Weber St. at home, 09/14 vs. Oregon St. at home, 09/21 vs. BYU on the road. Three (3) home and one (1) away games. Only three (3) OOC games. (2) OOC taken first two (2) weeks of the season, and third taken fourth week.

    11) Washington

    08/31 vs. Boise St. at home, 09/14 vs. Illinois on the road, 09/21 vs. Idaho St. at home, 09/28 vs. Arizona at home. Three (3) home and one (1) away games. Only three (3) OOC games. Credit for Illinois. All OOC taken first three (3) weeks of the season.

    12) Washington St.

    08/31 vs. Auburn on the road (L), 09/07 vs. USC on the road, 09/14 vs. Southern Utah at home, 09/21 vs. Idaho at home. Three (3) home and one (1) away games. Only three (3) OOC games. Credit for Auburn. Two (2) OOC taken first two (2) weeks of the season, and third taken fourth week.

    Based on Professor Fate’s analysis, PAC-12 played 11 OOC teams from a major conference, but only nine (9) would constitute quality OOC games. PAC-12 lost 5 of its OOC games.

    PAC-12 has special issues considering the distance between schools, and the fact that most of the D-1 football teams are in the Central and Eastern time zones. This may explain PAC-12s willingness to play an extra conference game.

    Is the PAC-12 hiding by playing 12 less OOC games than the other conferences? Does the PAC-12 have a superior schedule because it plays at least one (1) extra “big conference” school each year based on fundamental and inherent scheduling concepts? Is the PAC-12 avoid losing record in the OOC schedule by playing one (1) less game? There is no right answer, because each year is different.

  31. normtide says: Mar 18, 2014 2:38 PM

    Professor- first off, I’ll get that homework done, just swing by and pick it up brother.

    So, you think the SEC is getting left out? Again, I’m questioning what you are a professor of? Liberal arts? When Bama scheduled vt and wvu both were playing well. Logan Thomas was supposed to be the #1 pick. WVU was lighting up the scoreboard.

    Maybe compare the schedules of other leagues as well. Here is the thing, you’re printing a ton of words to beat the SEC. Wouldn’t you prefer your team beat them on the field. There is a reason why other fan bases chant we want Bama instead of writing a dissertation about how they are already better. Maybe include how USC vs Fresno and Hawaii is actual a tough game.

    In case you missed it, the SEC lost a title game. But, still cleaned up in recruiting. Bama had an all time class. (Individual player rankings are hit or miss, but class rankings are usually pretty solid).

    The fact that you only post about the SEC is exactly why the league is so powerful. You either love it, or love to hate it. Have you ever even mentioned what team you root for? Probably not. Even you don’t want to talk about them.

  32. sportsbastard says: Mar 18, 2014 2:49 PM

    I guess they needed the SOS bump due to having to play kansas every year.

  33. rocket1988 says: Mar 18, 2014 3:50 PM

    I think the point the good professor is making is that OOC schedules are going to matter more now to the selection committee. Therefore it could hurt a SEC team rather than help.

  34. germanflats13a38 says: Mar 18, 2014 5:13 PM

    I found 4 rating services that document Strength of Schedule. (Anderson and Heater, Colley matrix, Jeff Sagarin, Kenneth Massey, Billingsley report)

    BIG-10 :
    average ranking – 42.89583
    Median ranking – 45

    SEC :
    average ranking – 19.19643
    Median ranking – 15.75

    PAC-12 :
    average ranking – 16.16667
    Median ranking – 12.5

  35. kralnor says: Mar 18, 2014 6:10 PM

    Why is this a problem for anyone? Are we still pretending that Baylor will be relevant beyond last season?

  36. Professor Fate says: Mar 18, 2014 7:26 PM

    germanflats-
    No, I didn’t respond to where OOC games are scheduled since that is often dependent on when conference games are scheduled. I was just pointing out that the SEC still schedules a lot of cupcakes, which apparently ruffled some feathers.

    One of the reasons the PAC12 went to 9 conference games was expansion, something some other conferences who have expanded haven’t embraced. Certain conference “powers” end up going years without playing other good teams in their own conference. I agree that some PAC12 schools still schedule cupcakes.

    Your strength-of-schedule reference was interesting. Thanks for putting that up.

    norm-
    I’m sorry I seem to have pissed you off with some facts. I’m also sorry you seem to think that posting those facts is an attack on you, rather than an observation of the SEC. I’m not sure what you mean by “the SEC is getting left out.” Left out of what?

    With ESPN and many ranking services extolling the superiority of the SEC for many years now, I don’t see them getting left out of anything. On the contrary, the conference has been getting the benefit of every doubt for quite some time. They pad their rankings with home games against teams that have no business being on the field with most of them. That’s all I was getting at.

    What team I might back hardly has any bearing on the strength-of-schedule topic or how some teams and/or conferences might, or might not, be handicapping themselves with OOC games against FCS schools. We’ve yet to see whether or not that part of the new system will actually have much bearing.

    For a guy who backs what is arguably the greatest run by any team (and conference) in college football history you sure do seem to have quite the inferiority complex about them. While I think that record speaks for itself, it would speak volumes louder if three or four wins every year weren’t essentially exhibition games.

  37. germanflats13a38 says: Mar 18, 2014 9:15 PM

    PAC-10 went to 9 games when teams began to schedule 12 games, not when it expanded to the PAC-12. Once again, the reason for the 9 conference game isn’t all based on competition. Much of it has to do with cost, travel, and available teams.

    It is much easier to schedule games on the east coast. That fact alone has a lot to do with the number of conference games that are played.

  38. normtide says: Mar 18, 2014 9:25 PM

    My friend, nothing on the internet pisses me off. You go a round about way to try and avoid a point. The SEC is in no danger of being left out of the playoff. Three seasons ago both teams in the title game were SEC members. Nothing you type is going to change that.

    Once again, what team do you root for. It seems you only root against the SEC, but not for any other team. And that proves my point. Your writing novels about the league, and not a mention of any team you favour. That speaks far more than your essays.

  39. germanflats13a38 says: Mar 18, 2014 9:29 PM

    @ professor fate

    No one mentioned where OOC is played. They have mentioned when the games are played. That point hasn’t been assessed yet.

  40. 8to80texansblog says: Mar 19, 2014 9:36 AM

    kralnor says:
    Mar 18, 2014 6:10 PM

    Why is this a problem for anyone? Are we still pretending that Baylor will be relevant beyond last season?
    _______________________

    Baylor won a Heisman a few years ago and won the conference this year. As long as Art Briles is at Baylor, they will be a force in the Big 12.

    Now one thing to notice about Baylor is they seem to get both OU and Texas at home or away the same year. So I would imagine that Baylor will have a good shot at a conference title every other year.

    Last time they had OU and Texas both at home they won a Heisman, this time they won the conference….

  41. donjsmith says: Mar 19, 2014 10:46 AM

    cue the Big 12 fans screaming about the SEC OOC schedule

  42. donjsmith says: Mar 19, 2014 11:01 AM

    ESPN has a monetary interest in seeing the SEC in as many top-tier bowl games as possible, which is why they rank SEC teams as highly as they do. When an SEC team beats another SEC team it’s all about how tough the conference is.

    Yet the SEC rarely plays good teams outside of that conference, which makes it difficult for unbiased observers to ascertain just where it should rank. We’ll see if the strength-of-schedule component in the new rankings system has any teeth.
    ———————————
    ESPN has a monetary interest in any conference they broadcast games for… but beyond that, you state that ESPN ranks SEC teams, but they don’t… ESPN doesn’t run the polls…
    you also hint that ESPN puts teams in bowl games… they don’t… LOL, good try…

    as for the argument that the SEC doesn’t play top teams OOC, perhaps you’re forgetting the bowl games… the SEC’s record in the BCS era is unmatched, it isn’t even close… since the BCS began, the SEC has:

    1) the most national titles
    2) the most BCS wins
    3) the most BCS appearances
    4) the highest winning percentage of any major conference

    you guys hate the SEC… I get it… but that won’t change the fact that, on the field, the SEC is by far the best conference…

    good luck to your team…

  43. ratsfoiledagain says: Mar 19, 2014 11:43 AM

    Professor Fate says:
    Mar 18, 2014 11:15 AM

    Remedial class is in session-

    thegonz13-
    No, not every school schedules FCS teams. Notre Dame, UCLA, and USC have never scheduled an FCS school. Ever. The point isn’t just scheduling FCS schools to pad the win column, it’s also scheduling bad OOC FBS teams. Teams that perennially bad
    **********
    UW Huskies were part of that list. Sadly, it went away this past season, I believe. I didn’t like that change, and wish they were still in this grouping.

  44. 8to80texansblog says: Mar 19, 2014 11:55 AM

    I believe that UW played Idaho State this past season, and I believe they are an FCS team….

  45. ratsfoiledagain says: Mar 19, 2014 12:47 PM

    8to80texansblog says:
    Mar 19, 2014 11:55 AM

    I believe that UW played Idaho State this past season, and I believe they are an FCS team….
    **********
    Yes, sir. And is why I stated I wished they were still in the grouping with ND, UCLA & USC. It doesn’t mean a whole lot in the grand scheme of things now, but it was a nice fraternity to belong to, in my opinion. Even when the Huskies sucked it up for a decade, they were still playing tough schedules.

  46. harleyspoon says: Mar 19, 2014 4:11 PM

    Incidentally, there are 14 teams in the SEC and the SEC teams only have to play 8 (one more than half) of their SEC brethern every year. The BIG12 has to play all of its BIG12 brethern. every year.

    This is the 2014 non conference schedule for the vaunted SEC West:

    Auburn:
    San Jose State
    La Tech
    Samford (This ain’t Stanford of the PAC, Bubba…)

    Alabama:
    Florida Atlantic
    Southern Miss (Southern Miss is in the same conf as Texas State)
    Western Carolina

    Arkansas:
    Nichols State
    UAB
    Northern Illinois

    LSU:
    Sam Houston
    ULM
    New Mexico State

    Miss St:
    UAB
    Southern Miss
    Tenn. Martin

    Ole Miss:
    Louisiana
    Memphis
    Presbyterian

    Texas A&M:
    Lamar
    Rice
    SMU

  47. harleyspoon says: Mar 19, 2014 4:20 PM

    Besides, Baylor won’t be playing Incarnate Word until 2019 if they play them at all…That is five years away….A lot can happen in five years. Contracts are broken all the time and, with the financial backing coming from big time money boys in San Antonio, a lot can happen with the IW football team…IW is committed to doubling its enrollment of over 9000 students between now and 2020 to 20,000 students. Some of you might want to take a look at the 2013 recruiting class signed by IW…

  48. germanflats13a38 says: Mar 19, 2014 4:46 PM

    @harlyspoon

    BIG-12 had ten (10) teams and cannot have a championship game. They play nine (9) conference games as a prudent means of crowning a champion, not to boost SOS. Insulation does not secure an impressive strength of schedule alone.

    The SEC plays four (4) OOC games each year, not the three (3) you listed for each team. You forgot:

    Auburn v Kansas St.
    Alabama v West Virginia
    Arkansas v Texas Tech
    LSU v Wisconsin
    Miss. St. v UAB
    Ole Miss v Boise St.
    Texas A&M v ULM

    BIG-12 plays only 3 OOC games each year. Each team plays at least one (1) other Major Conference school except for Baylor in 2014. The BIG-12 also scheduled the following:

    Baylor v Northwestern State
    Iowa State v North Dakota State
    Kansas v S.E. Missouri State
    Kansas State v Thomas F Austin
    Oklahoma v Louisiana Tech
    Oklahoma State v Missouri State
    TCU v Samford
    Texas v North Texas
    Texas Tech v Central Arkansas
    West Virginia v Towson

  49. germanflats13a38 says: Mar 19, 2014 5:05 PM

    @ harlyspoon

    TCU plays Samford first game of the season.

    Southern Miss. is in C-USA. That conference includes N. Texas and not Texas St. Oklahoma St., Texas, K State, Texas Tech each play at least one (1) C -USA team in 2014. Oklahoma plays two (2) C-USA teams in 2014.

  50. 8to80texansblog says: Mar 20, 2014 11:39 AM

    wow @harleyspoon

    You just got…. I believe the term is…. owned

  51. icallbs81 says: Mar 23, 2014 12:40 AM

    Ricky Williams is the running back coach at I.W.

  52. ncaa2014playoff says: Mar 29, 2014 11:38 AM

    Say it aint so.
    Fix the FBS, it is the CFP and these Patsy games against FCS teams (http://ncaa2014.us/nopatsyrule.pdf) along with the unequal and unfair status fo the former Mid-Majors now the Group of Five that are killing a great thing. (http://ncaa2014.us/nocupcakerule.pdf)
    College football is no Basketball nor is it the NFL. It can’t take in every team but it should not just be 64 teams either.
    The Perfect Playoff Plan 16 is the comprehensive reorganization of the FBS into a 120 team Major College Football Division with 12 Football Only Conferences of 10 teams each based on the Power Five Conferences with the Best, Next and Least evenly distributed among the 12.
    See it at: http://ncaa2014.us/theperfectplan.pdf

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