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Florida State University issued a statement in response to a story published by the New York Times on Wednesday. The university expressed disappointment in the story that profiles the timeline of the response taken by the university and Tallahassee police in an investigation for an alleged sexual assault committed by quarterback Jameis Winston.

According to the statement released by Florida State, many of the responses provided during the process of writing the story were not included in the final copy that was released. Among the many points made by the university in an outline of issues with the story include is a statement that Florida State does not tolerate sexual assault, state and federal privacy laws restrict what the university can do on certain student matters, and the university must balance the duty to investigate with the general welfare of the alleged victim. By leaving out information Florida State feels were justified to include in telling what it believes to be the full story, the New York Times has done a disservice to its readers and the Florida State community, the statement says.

“Like all other colleges and universities, FSU is faced with a balancing act when following the “Dear Colleague” letter,” the statement by Florida State opens.

“Given the inherent tension within the “Dear Colleague” letter, FSU seeks to empower victims by giving great weight to their wishes when it comes to counseling, academic accommodations and supporting them through criminal or university proceedings,” the statement continues. “In a great number of cases, the victims make it quite clear that they don’t want to file a police report or pursue a Code of Conduct process.”

You can read the full statement released by Florida State as well as the full outline of points the university feels were missing from the New York Times story.

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  1. rolltide510 says: Apr 16, 2014 4:24 PM

    In before FSU fans remind us this girl must be a gold digging slut because she’s accusing their star player.

  2. dhardy8207 says: Apr 16, 2014 4:59 PM

    @rolltide510

    Yes but he wasn’t their “star” player at the time and she still reported it. He was a backup and there was no way to know he would end up with the notariety he has received.

    Its always interesting how easy it is to label a young lady a “gold digging slut”, when there had to be an abundance of male companions to make her a slut. That means either these young men were “slut seekers” or whore hoppers themselves…

  3. cubano76 says: Apr 16, 2014 5:12 PM

    You know, for a guy who didn’t do anything wrong. And is just a victim of a gold digger, this story won’t die. Hmm, wonder why?

  4. soflosportsfan says: Apr 16, 2014 5:19 PM

    How can you try to justify the facts in this BS investigation. Admit it, you dropped the ball and gave preferential treatment. It’s not a case of whether Jameis is guilty or not, it’s about giving a fair investigation and it is apparent that wasn’t the caase

  5. jimmy53 says: Apr 16, 2014 5:57 PM

    I love how people forget that Greg Dent who was a much higher profile player than Winston was at the time of his altercation was arrested and tried for rape and their was no issues of cover-up or favoritism.

    But apparently the University and Tallahassee Police Department decided to go to bat and create a massive cover-up for an unproven redshirt freshman QB who had never set foot on the field.

    Yeah, makes complete sense….

  6. babyfarkmcgeezax says: Apr 16, 2014 7:07 PM

    Ja-rapist Winston

  7. donovandancy says: Apr 16, 2014 7:09 PM

    ok, lets look at the Times logic here.

    1) The incident happens off campus so its not the school’s jurisdiction, so by the rules in place they turn the investigation over to the police.

    By the NYT lines of thinking, the school should have continued an independent investigation. Im sure police departments love other organizations handling evidence. Good one NYT!

    2) The accuser initially requested that no charges be filed and the case dropped . . .

    So FSU and/or the TPD should have violated Florida Statute and ignored the accuser’s wishes.

    Good one NYT!

    3) The accuser should have been offered many avinues of aid . . . which she was actually offered by FSU and the TPD, all of which she declined.

    So both FSU and TPD should be ashamed for doing what the article suggests they should have done?

    Good one NYT?

    4) Once the accuser came forward with a name and there was not enough evidence to even proceed forward with a trial . . .

    Then there should have been a trial anyway?

    Good one NYT!

    They are hilarious, those comedians at the NYT. They don’t even bother with logic, including all sides of a piece, or even pay attention to state laws and jurisdictions.

  8. babyfarkmcgeezax says: Apr 16, 2014 7:15 PM

    FSU fans will defend Ja-rapist just like Syracuse fans defended Bernie Fine, Brewers fans defended Ryan Fraud and Penn State fans defended The Enabler of Rhythmic Slapping. They’re always innocent if they’re on your team, right? Sickening. Just sickening.

  9. mcl5000 says: Apr 16, 2014 7:43 PM

    @babyfarkmcgeezax

    I don’t think many people defended the Enabler of Rhythmic Slapping…they just didn’t necessarily think the current players should be punished for it.

  10. musketmaniac says: Apr 16, 2014 7:48 PM

    Baby, you forgot those Steelers. I have had Women tell me as long big ben wins super bowls they don’t care who he rapes. Die hard.

  11. babyfarkmcgeezax says: Apr 16, 2014 8:06 PM

    Yes, I forgot to mention all the Rapistberger apologists, as well as the Ravens fans who fawn over a double murderer as if he’s holier than Jesus Christ himself because he praises God and sheds crocodile tears conveniently whenever a camera is rolling. Just sit back and watch, FSU fans will inevitably turn Ja-rapist into the same kind of martyr because hey, raping and killing is ok as long as you win football games for us, right?

  12. mykpfsu says: Apr 16, 2014 8:19 PM

    All the NYT story is, is just a blast from teh accuser’s attorney to get more notoriety to try to force Winston into a settlement. Its completely one sided and Winston’s attorney has 2 sentences for the entire article.
    “The Tallahassee police were too slow to identify Winston”…gee, could that possibly be because they were originally looking for a guy that was 5’9″ and 240 pounds? Or perhaps because the “victim” told one story at the beginning and then another later on (changing number of people in the taxi, who dropped her off, basic physical characteristics of her “attacker”)? Anyone think those factors had something to do with the investigation?

  13. babyfarkmcgeezax says: Apr 16, 2014 8:41 PM

    ^^^^Case in point^^^^

  14. erikcofer says: Apr 16, 2014 9:44 PM

    Donovandancy, your point #2 is incorrect. The accuser maintained contact with the police, did not request that the case be closed, and was not formally informed when the case was suspended.

    You’re also ignoring that the police never checked out the phone records of the men involved, nor did they try to follow up who the football player named Chris was, which wouldn’t have taken long at all.

    It’s not a question of whether Winston is guilty or not. We don’t have enough evidence to say, so it’s only fair to treat him as an innocent man. The issue is the way the investigation was handled. Even if you want to give the university a pass, the local police clearly botched things – whether that was intentional or not, I can’t say.

  15. theflyingtad says: Apr 16, 2014 9:59 PM

    Sadly, this is and always will be a he-said/she-said, so we will never know the truth.

    Legally, Winston is correct to not speak to the police or release a statement. From PR standpoint, that hurts a bit, but it will eventually go away so long as he isn’t convicted.

    The police’s handling of this situation has been an injustice to the truth, whatever that is. If a crime was committed, the victim will never get justice. If a crime was not committed, Winsont is going to have to deal with these questions and conspiracy theories for quite a while longer when a quick response from the police may have vindicated him.

    There are no winners in this scenario.

  16. gatorprof says: Apr 16, 2014 10:14 PM

    Not a good day for FSU. Not the way you want to appear in the NYT.

  17. jarzmel says: Apr 16, 2014 10:38 PM

    If you all think that the Tallahassee PD and the FSU PD didn’t cover this up and make sure it was put on a back burner then you all are a hell of a lot dumber than you already look.

  18. Deb says: Apr 16, 2014 10:39 PM

    A lot of Big Men are mouthing off on this thread about how fans are defending rapists. Fans defending guilty players is no worse than rivals damning innocent players because they play for another team.

    I’m probably the only person posting tonight who’s actually experienced a sexual assault, which is why I take it seriously rather than thinking of it as something to babble about on football blogs.

    The prosecutor in Roethlisberger’s case didn’t file charges because the accuser didn’t have sex with anyone that night. The itty-bitty dot of DNA found on her was too old and degraded to have come from a recent encounter. She said from the get-go they didn’t have sex, but a friend with an ax to grind talked her into making the false claim. If you’d done the research–and had the contacts in Georgia–you’d know that. You may not like the guy. He’s my team’s quarterback and I don’t particularly like him, but he didn’t rape anyone.

    Has Winston? I don’t know. Haven’t done the months of research on Winston I did with Roethlisberger (and I do this kind of research for a living). Rape is an act of violence, and what I read sounded like she was a willing participant. But you loudmouths should man up and admit all this Winston hate doesn’t have one thing to do with concern for that girl. If Winston hadn’t won the title for FSU and was just another losing QB for Podunk University, none of you would be saying a word. And no, I am not an FSU fan. I’m just tired of jerks pretending to be concerned for women when they’re really just wanting to spit in their rivals’ faces.

  19. babyfarkmcgeezax says: Apr 16, 2014 11:04 PM

    Ahh yes, good old Deb. Claims to have experienced sexual assault, yet she STILL gives these entitled jackass jocks the benefit of the doubt because hey, football. Especially if they play for her team. Scary to think how far one of these meatheads would have to go before she finally puts concern over a victim’s well-being ahead of her obsession over a damn GAME.

    Oklahoma 45, Alabama 31
    Utah 31, Alabama 17

  20. chamilton298 says: Apr 16, 2014 11:38 PM

    Ok people The stuff in the “article” is no new development. Also, the allegations are the same ones made by the accuser’s lawyer in her December press conference that was held the day before the Heisman. This article just reports one side of the story. It failed to mention enormous amount of evidence that CONTRADICTS their report. They did not do an investigative report. They just repeated everything that the accuser’s lawyer has alleged. This was the most biased article seeing as how they left out any evidence that did not agree with what they wanted to say. The interview with Meggs was stuff that he had already said prior to them deciding to write the article. Also, I would like to ask Georgia Capplemen that if she does not think he is innocent, then what evidence did they have that he was guilty. He said that he could not be convicted but she thinks he is guilty. Notice how her opinion was not based on any evidence, but on the notion of “people don’t make false accusations”. Again, the stuff in this article is nothing that has not been said before. Read stuff from back in December and then read the article. THEY SAID NOTHING NEW. Willie Meggs has a low conviction rate because he consistently overcharges people. For those of you who think that FSU was trying to protect a star football player should look up the following names: Lavernious Coles, Greg Reid, Greg Dent, James Wilder jr, Travis Johnson, Warrick Dunn, and Peter Warrick. All of these guys were WAY bigger stars than Winston was at the time and they were all charged with stuff. Travis Johnson was charged by Meggs even though he passed 3 lie detector tests, the rape kit came back negative, and his ex’s story was proven to be impossible to have happened. He was acquitted by and all women jury after deliberating for only 30 minutes. All of the stuff is in the Police and SAO reports so there is nothing new in this article. Seriously, read articles that were written back in December and on up. This article is just REPEATING EVERYTHING THAT PAT CARROLL HAS ALLEGED. Notice how they left out every piece of evidence that contradicts their article. Notice how half of the stuff in the article cannot be verified. Notice how Capplemen said that the other “accuser” said that the encounter was consensual but sought counseling because she felt violated. She did some super freaky stuff and felt extra cheap. Clear case of regretting doing the freaky thing. Notice how there is no documentation. Do you not think that if someone else had sought counseling after a sexual encounter with Winston, this would have been mentioned a LONG time ago. Patricia Carroll makes all of these accusations and verifies none of them. She provides no evidence that she “always” tried to contact anyone. Look at the case files. It is stated that Carroll was given the results of the toxicology screens and BAC screens and said that she would review the findings with the accuser and would get back to them if they decided to press charges. It is documented in the reports that on 3 separate meeting, they were unsure if they wanted to press charges. Also, you mean to tell me the cops were refusing to take an alleged rapist’s DNA because they did not want publicity and Patricia Carroll did ABSOLUTLY NOTHING. All she had to do was go to the DA, tell them, and they would subpoena the DNA. If this were the case then surely she would have gone to someone about it. It is documented that Carroll cut off contact. Also, the case was never closed, it was declared open/inactive due to lack of cooperation. It was never closed. Read the documents. The accuser on 3 occasions stated she was not sure if she wanted to pursue charges. Because of that, on 2/28/13, the investigator filed a report placing the case in open but inactive status “due to a lack of cooperation from the victim.” Nothing else happened until November, when a member of the media made a records request for the file. Once that happened, there was an uproar about it in the media and the case was reopened. Kind of like public pressure

  21. Deb says: Apr 16, 2014 11:59 PM

    barkingbaby,

    “Obsession over a damn GAME,” cries the little boy who puts the score to irrelevant Bama bowl games on the bottom of all his comments to me. Thinking I’d care after my team has won three of the last five championships is like thinking I care more about football than being raped. Thanks for bringing levity to such a serious topic … and for making my point about your motivations.

    BTW, as someone who’s not only dealt for years with rape victims but also with criminal justice issues involving the wrongly accused, I don’t just give “entitled jackass jocks the benefit of the doubt.” I give everyone the presumption of innocence because that is what our Constitution requires.

  22. donovandancy says: Apr 17, 2014 12:06 AM

    Erik Cofer,
    You are misinformed. A full release of the TPD contact with the acuser was released the day after the close of the investigation, per records request. The PDF was widely distributed online, and has an account of the accuser’s requests. It was available to read on ESPN via link, on this site, and others.

    She first could not name an accuser, then identified an incorrect height/weight, then contacted TPD the following week to request the case not go forward. One of the main reasons for making the document readily available was to quash the heresay regarding the accuser’s actions. TPD had their hands tied specifically due to her requests.
    As for FSU, the second the event was discovered as occurring of campus it was completely out of their hands because of a Florida statute. If there had been any action against Winston without the case being able to go to trial, then FSU would have been open to litigation for damages to Winston.

    The people on this site saying FSU or Tallahassee police should of done more, or better simply are ignorant of the details or procedures required of both departments. It is very irresponsible to suggest otherwise as these very procedures protect both the wrongfully accused and even the accusers in these situations. If you don’t believe me (and you shouldn’t, im just as anonymous as the blowhards above), read the PDF. It’s long and repetitive, but if you skip to the officer’s accounts of contact with the woman after the first night, you will see what she did to hinder this case herself.

  23. cubano76 says: Apr 17, 2014 7:30 AM

    Dangit people! It’s called a “comments” section, not a “thesis” section. Some of us are very slow readers, and don’t have time for deep, intellectual thoughts.

  24. iwishwvuwouldbeatbama says: Apr 17, 2014 7:56 AM

    Cant wait to see justice done and the national championship vacated. I hope no coach’s were involved here that would only make things worse for FSU! The NYT is putting this back on the front burner, be ready sports fans this is when the yarn ball unravels. Sit back and enjoy the ride.

  25. mogogo1 says: Apr 17, 2014 10:06 AM

    I’m not an FSU fan but it’s easy to see why the school would be disappointed. A higher profile player at the time was also arrested around that same period and he’s in huge trouble, so the “special treatment” label doesn’t really fit very well.

    And the actual facts of the Winston case do little but make the accuser look bad. More than one guy’s semen on her? Multiple, contradictory stories told the cops with several being blown apart by medical evidence? (She claimed a head injury and being drugged but tests found evidence of neither.) Continuous text conversations with a friend the entire night in question where no problem is ever mentioned at all?

  26. chunkala says: Apr 17, 2014 11:21 AM

    Disappointment = didn’t want to hear the truth and din’t want everyone else to know it.

  27. Deb says: Apr 17, 2014 1:24 PM

    @cubano76 …

    I’m as guilty as the rest, but that was still one of the funniest comments ever posted here. Kudos!

  28. musketmaniac says: Apr 17, 2014 3:43 PM

    Deb, get help. Talk to friends see a psychologist or something. anybody who brings up being attacked as much you do, is not over it. you need help. Defending these people will not bring a better understanding to what has happened to you. obviously you have issues with these victims. afraid to identify with them.

  29. rolltide510 says: Apr 17, 2014 4:12 PM

    “Yes but he wasn’t their “star” player at the time and she still reported it. He was a backup and there was no way to know he would end up with the notariety he has received.”

    …Right. Absolutely no way to know the #1 QB recruit in the nation was going to end up starting. I wonder if she even knew he played ball??

  30. Deb says: Apr 17, 2014 5:18 PM

    musketmaniac …

    Thanks for your compassionate concern. I did get help from an excellent trauma center, and hope any victim reading this knows low-cost help is available. Rape victims don’t get “over it,” but they can find peace and come to think of themselves as survivors. And perhaps at some point they may even be able to say simply, “I am a survivor,” anonymously to a group of strangers in order to make a relevant point in a discussion and use their experience in a positive way.

    Sorry to contradict your efforts at pop psychology, but I overly identify with actual rape victims. However, I feel an anger you could not comprehend for women who willingly drink themselves into oblivion, willingly take off with a group of men, willingly participate in sex acts with them, then claim they’ve been raped. If they weren’t forced, unconscious, drugged, or mentally incapacitated, they were not raped. Yes, I’m cynical about those who claim they were assaulted when there seems to be a profit motive. The last thing a real rape victim wants is to be paid for it.

  31. realfootballfan says: Apr 18, 2014 1:27 PM

    FSU rival fans posting: Let’s keep talking about this non-case so we can find a way to bash FSU. Faking your concern for this girl because you are jealous of a football team is about the most pathetic shit I’ve ever seen in my life.

  32. realfootballfan says: Apr 18, 2014 1:35 PM

    mogogo1,
    Well said, but some of these cats are so consumed with their football hatred that they can’t understand this logic. Nothing is going to change; this case isn’t going to be re-opened.

    You claim to be fans of the American justice system, so why are you who post on every story involving this closed case that only comes up btw because the accuser’s aunt keeps talking obsessed with rehashing it? Oh that’s right, because the sorry ass team of the college that you probably didn’t attend isn’t the national champion and that consumes your life. Fucking pathetic.

  33. realfootballfan says: Apr 18, 2014 1:42 PM

    Deb ,

    Yea, when the accuser’s aunt did that silly ass press conference proclaiming that they would pursue civil litigation, it should be a red flag to the dummies who continue posting on this subject every time she opens her mouth. I have known many women in my life who have been sexually assaulted. I have never heard one of them say, “Well if we can get a civil settlement out of this.”

    Just looking at the flimsy evidence to begin with is bad enough, but who in their right mind is still here seriously trying to bash FSU or Winston over this shit? Like seriously after you saw that, saw all of the case file, after you read what Willie Meggs has said and done in the past regarding this case and others, but the dummies claiming it’s still a coverup and an “injustice,” which seems to coincide with how much you hate FSU btw.

  34. musketmaniac says: Apr 18, 2014 5:21 PM

    delusional, good luck.

  35. justalonewolf says: Apr 20, 2014 5:03 PM

    Deb: (The itty-bitty dot of DNA found on her was too old and degraded to have come from a recent encounter)

    Really? Tell us all then Deb, why is it that police and forensics can go back years and decades to pick up DNA for testing in a cold case but now in this one instance the itty bitty little ol piece of DNA was not enough and/or good enough to matter either way? how is that deb? tell us now please how is that??? Give us all your professional and unbiased opinion on this extremely important matter Deb please do.

  36. packerbadger says: Apr 21, 2014 1:41 PM

    mcl5000 says:
    Apr 16, 2014 7:43 PM

    @babyfarkmcgeezax

    I don’t think many people defended the Enabler of Rhythmic Slapping…they just didn’t necessarily think the current players should be punished for it.
    ==================================
    If a parent commits murder, the kids are going to be “punished” for it by their parent going to jail…..

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