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SEC coaches miffed at James Franklin ‘guest coaching’ on their turf

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From Nicky Satan to Todd Grantham to the conference itself and all points in between, James Franklin was far from the most popular of head coaches in the SEC. Even as Franklin has since moved on from Vanderbilt to Penn State, he’s sticking in the craw of his old conference’s coaching fraternity.

Earlier this month it was revealed that the Penn State coaching staff would serve as “guest coaches” during a Georgia State football camp in mid-June. They will do the same at Stetson University in DeLand, Fla.  By far the the biggest benefit to the Nittany Lions will be getting a chance to see up close and personal — and recruit — players who would likely never venture as far north as Happy Valley for visits and/or camps.

The NCAA has a bylaw that prevents football programs from setting up camps outside of its home state. Franklin & Company, however, are taking advantage of a touch of gray that allows them to serve as “guest coaches” at camps outside the state of Pennsylvania — and forge a greater foothold in the talent-rich recruiting fields of the Deep South.

The SEC, on the other hand, has a rule that prohibits its coaches from guest coaching more than 50 miles from their campuses. The coaches in that conference now see themselves at a disadvantage to a master recruiter like Franklin and want the NCAA to close the loophole — or for the SEC to lift its 50-mile radius stipulation.

I wish it was a national rule,” Ole Miss head coach Hugh Freeze said. “I don’t particularly want another school in a BCS conference coming into our state and running a camp. So we would like to see our rule be a national rule. I’d love to see it be the same.”

Or, as Kentucky’s Mark Stoops put it, “I don’t want to speak for everybody in the room, but from what I heard in there is most of our coaches would be in favor of at least being on an even playing field.”

Commissioner Mike Slive acknowledged that his football coaches “see it as a loophole and asked us to see what we can do about that.”

Whether that involves pushing to make the SEC rule a national one or repealing the existing conference restriction, you can rest assured that, when it comes to football recruiting, the SEC will do everything and anything in its power to stay ahead of anyone else on that particular trail.

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26 Responses to “SEC coaches miffed at James Franklin ‘guest coaching’ on their turf”
  1. seminolez says: May 29, 2014 11:53 AM

    first the anti-uptempo now this? why does the SEC insist on changing national football rules?

  2. jkulha86 says: May 29, 2014 11:53 AM

    Sorry but plenty of other schools do this. Oklahoma State, and New Mexico are assisting with camps in the state of Texas this summer, and you don’t hear any of the Texas schools crying. If you want to talk about an even playing field, then describe how over-signing is fair, or talk about how players who have been arrested, failed multiple drug test, and players who can’t qualify academically are still eligible. If this was a school like Akron or Eastern Michigan, the SEC would care less. But with the momentum James Franklin has right now in recruiting, the SEC is going to try and make this a big deal.

  3. brianincbus says: May 29, 2014 11:58 AM

    So the $EC can oversign on recruiting day every year and that’s fine, but God forbid another conference do something within the rules?

  4. guinsrule says: May 29, 2014 12:04 PM

    The big boys dont have to worry, just the SEC bottomfeeders do.

  5. woebegong says: May 29, 2014 12:05 PM

    He represents just another small fly in the ointment as far as recruiting in the south goes. The south produces so many college ready football players, that his imprint will not be noticed this much trust me. Lots of others schools recruit in the south, and somehow it always seems that the southern schools keep enough of them home to produce championship teams. Look no further than the SEC and FSU to affirm that fact.

  6. sparky151 says: May 29, 2014 12:14 PM

    Isn’t being a “guest staff” a figleaf? Seems pretty risky for Penn State to hope the NCAA doesn’t take notice of what seems like a violation.

  7. bamamanchip says: May 29, 2014 12:49 PM

    John Taylor – Referring to Coach Saban the way he did is Stupid,If thats the way you have to get attention to your articles you are a looser….

  8. John Taylor says: May 29, 2014 12:51 PM

    John Taylor – Referring to Coach Saban the way he did is Stupid,If thats the way you have to get attention to your articles you are a looser….

    You aren’t the sharpest knife in the chandelier, are ya Sparky?

  9. rolltide510 says: May 29, 2014 12:54 PM

    I for one am pretty worried that Franklin and crew will be locking down all the potential Georgia State stars.

  10. rolltide510 says: May 29, 2014 12:56 PM

    Also, reading whining about over signing in the comments was an unexpected bonus for me. That’s really the gift that keeps giving in terms of B1G butt hurt.

  11. bamamanchip says: May 29, 2014 12:59 PM

    These SEC schools never got hurt by Franklin before so I really doubt they will be hurt by James Franklin now,and I have news for you Franklin was nowhere near the most noticed coach in the SEC Never has been and Never will be, he’s only a nat on the real SEC coaches asses like Saban,Miles and some of the others were way more noticed than James Franklin so you John Taylor need to do a better job of reporting cause this article is trash….

  12. woebegong says: May 29, 2014 1:01 PM

    The University of Florida would be glad for that to happen.

  13. deadeye says: May 29, 2014 1:32 PM

    “first the anti-uptempo now this? why does the SEC insist on changing national football rules?”


    The “SEC” was not in favor of those anti-uptempo rules, it was Saban and Bielema. Other coaches in the SEC (Sumlin & Pinkel) opposed that rule.

    To be fair, if the SEC wants an even playing field, how about 9 conference games?

  14. HeatCheck says: May 29, 2014 1:47 PM

    I bet Saban really does hate it when coaches go sniffing around someone else’s turf:

  15. HeatCheck says: May 29, 2014 2:01 PM

    A looser what? How does it end?

  16. collegefan1984 says: May 29, 2014 2:23 PM

    Sparky151: They cleared it through the NCAA before signing on to do it.

  17. manik56 says: May 29, 2014 2:28 PM


  18. lbijake says: May 29, 2014 3:35 PM

    Gotta give Penn State credit to stay competitive while under harsh sanctions.
    The Bowl Game in Ireland. Guest coaching. Just feel this will raise the level of football whereas under Paterno, they changed little and expected people to clamor to go to Penn State, especially with young jay as the recruiting coach Similar to Ohio Sate breaking the Big 10 rule about not poaching recruits. All fair in love and war.

  19. dmoney666 says: May 29, 2014 5:26 PM

    Awww..poor SEC. Please. The SEC has completely dominated college football the past 20 years. So cry me a river you might lose a coupe of guys to the rest of the nation.

  20. auburntigers34 says: May 29, 2014 5:52 PM

    dmoney666 says:
    May 29, 2014 5:26 PM
    Awww..poor SEC.

    How much more pathetic would the B!G be, if they had to recruit in their own region?

    The SEC isn’t worried about PSU or any other school recruiting in the South East, but they will definitely repeal this rule on camps to level the playing field.

  21. iwishwvuwouldbeatbama says: May 29, 2014 9:17 PM

    Do not worry guys, the SEC will still buy most of the southern talent.

  22. auburntigers34 says: May 29, 2014 9:38 PM

    It’s ignorant and insulting to try to claim that SEC teams have to pay players to keep them from going to couch burning programs like WVU.

    But believe whatever helps you sleep at night.

  23. tommy57 says: May 30, 2014 6:21 AM

    Who puts knives in chandeliers?

  24. angelheartsbuckeyes says: May 30, 2014 1:16 PM


    Not so much…and definitely not the last 20 years:

  25. auburntigers34 says: May 30, 2014 2:33 PM

    F*ck Chuck Thompson. If he and other yankees hate the South so much, stay the Hell away.

  26. amosalanzostagg says: May 31, 2014 5:18 PM

    Much ado about nothing.

    Recruiting is such an inexact science to begin with.

    Franklin did however, open himself up to negative recruiting, big time.

    Imagine a football coach for Enormous State University, say from the ACC, finding out that Franklin is recruiting down South, you really don’t think the coach would say to the kid in front of his guardian or parents,

    “Do you really want to go to a school that has coaches molest kids in the team’s showers?”

    The kid stays down South.


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