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Is Texas A&M actually running the state? YESSIR!

Kevin Sumlin

When Texas A&M left the Big 12 for the SEC, getting out of the shadows of the Texas Longhorns was just part of the reason. Since moving to the SEC the Aggies have been establishing a renewed identity as a potential football power and head coach Kevin Sumlin is running with it. Fans of the Aggies know when Texas A&M has received a verbal commitment from a recruit if they follow Sumlin on Twitter, as he will tweet a “YESSIR!” after receiving the good word. Just in the past few days there were three consecutive tweets with the same message, each coinciding with a new recruit on the board for Texas A&M’s latest recruiting class.


The other hashtag making the rounds through the Texas A&M social networks now is #WRTS, which supposedly stands for “We run this state.” Sumlin has not used the hashtag but others have been using it to help support the idea that Texas A&M is dominating the state of Texas when it comes to recruiting compared to both in-state and SEC rivals. So, where is the top talent in Texas heading? ranks the recruits in each state for the Class of 2014. In Texas, the number one recruit, defensive end Myles Garrett, committed to Texas A&M. So did No. 9 defensive back Nick Harvey. Out of the top 50 players ranked in Texas, 11 are heading to Texas A&M. Essentially, one out of every five of the top players in the talent-rich state of Texas is heading to College Station to play college football. It continues with the Class of 2015 as well. According to the same Rivals ranking for 2015, 12 of the top 50 players in the state of Texas are committed to Texas A&M.

Seven of the top 50 players in 2014 from Texas will be Texas Longhorns. Four will join Baylor, fresh off a Big 12 championship. Two are heading to Texas Tech.

Alabama had a recruiting class widely regarded as the runaway winner, but just one of the top 100 players in the state of Texas will join the Crimson Tide. Of course, that would be the state’s number two recruit, defensive back Tony Brown. Four of the top 50 players in Texas are heading to LSU.

Is Texas A&M running the state of Texas? When it comes to recruiting, it sure seems like it. The question is for how long will that continue to be the case? Texas with a new head coach (Charlie Strong) should start getting back on track in short order, and when the Longhorns are back to battling for Big 12 championships the momentum could balance out a little bit. What Texas A&M will really benefit from would be a division title in the SEC West, and perhaps an SEC conference championship. Accomplish that and running the state could come with even greater ease.

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  1. Hard On For Harden says: Jun 22, 2014 7:00 PM

    Meh. Call me when aggy actually does something of note besides celebrating a 5th place SEC finish and “thrashing” of “perennial powerhouse” Duke in the Peach Bowl as if they won the national championship.

  2. stouchst says: Jun 22, 2014 8:39 PM

    “Since moving to the SEC the Aggies have been establishing a renewed identity as a potential football power”

    Is that what you call finishing 4th and 6th in your conference? What a joke? And, a bad aggie joke at that!

  3. be4bama says: Jun 22, 2014 8:40 PM

    I sense some serious butthurt

  4. thraiderskin says: Jun 22, 2014 8:45 PM

    I don’t know about butt hurt, but the Aggies are certainly running Texas. They still haven’t done much more than that.

  5. thefiesty1 says: Jun 22, 2014 8:53 PM

    They’ll soon get tired of finishing in the middle of the pack in the SEC West just like they did when they were in the Big 12 regardless of who they sign to letters of intent. Not beating Alabama, Auburn and LSU is the same as losing to Texas and Oklahoma.

  6. ever4texas says: Jun 22, 2014 8:56 PM

    Aggies can’t run a water hose much less run a state…each player they pick up will be kicked off or quit before their sophomore yr. Summlin will has a discipline problem and aggie’s will be dead last in SEC.

  7. Hard On For Harden says: Jun 22, 2014 9:05 PM

    The funniest thing about all of it is the fact aggy is now emphatically beating its chest about the exact thing they used to endlessly rip us to shreds for: reeling in premiere recruits but not winning conference championships with them.

  8. texizz says: Jun 22, 2014 9:44 PM

    BULLSHIT! The only thing ATM runs is their mouth.

  9. texizz says: Jun 22, 2014 9:46 PM

    When does the ATM coach get his driver license back?

  10. studdmuffins says: Jun 22, 2014 10:40 PM

    Is this really NBC sports or did I get redirected to an Onion article???

  11. sportsfan18 says: Jun 22, 2014 11:02 PM

    All ya’ll in Texas are nuts…

    Ooh, they’re running their mouths and they haven’t done diddly squat…

    Oh, they’re saying doing the exact same thing they used to complain that we did…

    I sense that one school thinks they have more class, tradition and excellence than the other school…

    But BOTH sides are ACTING without ANY class…

    So, if one side says they are the best, the champs, excellent, the big brother…

    Then WHY are they NOT acting like it?

    IF you HAD class, you’d ACT like you had class…

  12. txstatebobcats1868 says: Jun 22, 2014 11:19 PM

    Go Bobcats!!

  13. studdmuffins says: Jun 22, 2014 11:21 PM

    The only one nuts here appears to be you. And although you are exhibiting a lot of class it is all low. Grow up and go learn something about football before you run your mouth. The only thing you are doing here by posting such idiocy is showing everyone how stupid you are and not smart or clever like you incorrectly seem to consider yourself!!!

  14. txstatebobcats1868 says: Jun 22, 2014 11:29 PM

    Ran into some aggies and longhorns on the river during my weekly float this Saturday… Let’s just say Aggie group couldn’t hang and half their crew was passed out. In typical aggie fashion. Longhorn handed themselves slightly better. The bobcats handled themselves the best. Some gig em, some hook em, we out drink em!
    Eat Em Up Cats!

  15. goodfieldnohit says: Jun 23, 2014 12:01 AM

    A&M boat raced Oklahoma in the Cotton Bowl. OU was the Big12 Champion.

    5th place in the SEC = 5th in the national polls.

    Texas is afraid to play them.

    Texas has alleged rapists on their team (again).

    Waiting to review Case’s film – it could clear them…

  16. goodfieldnohit says: Jun 23, 2014 12:10 AM

    Montrel Meander and Kendall Sanders are currently being linked to a sexual assault investigation.

    Oh wait, they are players for the UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.

    Sumlin clearly has a problem, he’s not recruiting rapists like Charlie Strong is doing.

    Case McCoy says film at eleven

  17. Hard On For Harden says: Jun 23, 2014 12:32 AM


    Ever since I saw your post from a couple years ago where you’re tearing into A&M for hiring Sumlin instead of Charlie Strong, I just laugh when I see you attempt to rip his attempt at rebuilding the program. But go ahead, make another post on TexAgs asking your buddies to come on here and back you up with support and positive thumbs.

  18. Hard On For Harden says: Jun 23, 2014 12:36 AM


    I guess your definition of “nuts” is a matter of opinion…

    We MAY be nuts, but at least when we type, we utilize paragraphs and don’t CAPITALIZE random words in a failed attempt to highlight our point…

    Our thoughts are organized PROPERLY, and we use periods and don’t leave everything as UNRESOLVED issues…

    Wait, what was I getting at AGAIN…

    Oh yeah, basically, we don’t SOUND like 11 year old girls texting their friends…

  19. asspantz says: Jun 23, 2014 12:42 AM

    What is a bobcat?

  20. cyraider says: Jun 23, 2014 12:51 AM

    Iowa State would eat them both for lunch. Who cares…ATM was mediocre in the big XII and now they’re mediocre in the SEC. @ least Mizzou made it to a championship game…

  21. independenttexan says: Jun 23, 2014 7:58 AM

    I’m neither an Ag nor a Horn. I’m a neutral observer.

    Tell me this Orangebloods: would you rather be Guadalupe Peak (highest mountain in Texas, 8,751 feet), or would you rather be Pikes Peak (20th highest mountain in Colorado, 14,115 feet)?

    Playing in the Big XII, the best the Horns can be is Guadalupe Peak — although in 18 years the Horns can say they were Guadalupe Peak only 3 times.

    Now the Ags play in the SEC, where the champ pretty much automatically plays for the national championship. The worst the Ags can be is Pikes Peak — although in the past two years the Ags have been an upper division team in the SEC West, which is the toughest division of the toughest league in the country.

    I guess Orangebloods are happy aspiring to be Guadalupe Peak. Used to be that Longhorns did their talking on the field, but now they must do their talking on the internet.

    Believe me, the Aggies are perfectly thrilled being where they are, and they don’t need UT validation.

  22. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 8:49 AM

    It really makes me LOL to read these tsip (That’s UT fans to the uninformed) arrogant comments. I now they take this stuff personally. They just can’t stand to not be the Big Dog! Man, don’t take it so personally! It’s not like A&M whipped a family member.

    To set the record straight on some of the sip comments, Mack Brown’s teams in his first two years went 18-8. The great Nick Saban went 19-8 in his first two years. Kevin Sumlin’s teams, who were supposed to get killed in the mighty SEC, achieved a 20-6 record. Coach Sumlin’s record speaks volumes and it demonstrates that your BS is just that; worthless except for manure. I suggest you grow up and stop spreading it around. It speaks volumes about your character.

    Coach Sumlin is building a power house defense, one great player at a time. Once he’s revived the “Wrecking Crew”, Texas A&M will compete better with the best of the best in the SEC WEST. The sips will have to settle for playing in the worst of the 5 Power Conferences. Now those are some FACTS!

  23. texizz says: Jun 23, 2014 9:10 AM

    You know what really makes me laugh out loud? An aggie! When does your coach get his driver license back? LMAO!!!

  24. texizz says: Jun 23, 2014 9:20 AM

    Come see me when aTm wins an SEC Title! I’ll wait and wait and wait!!! So far, the aggies are all Hat and no Cattle!

    I’m waiting! So is Alabama, LSU and probably even

  25. pricecube says: Jun 23, 2014 9:20 AM

    goodfieldnohit said:

    “A&M boat raced Oklahoma in the Cotton Bowl. OU was the Big12 Champion.

    5th place in the SEC = 5th in the national polls.”

    No. 5th in the SEC means 5th in the SEC. That is all.

    That was almost two yrs ago. More recently OU “boat raced” Alabama… (the fan and pundit consensus best in the SEC). OU was tied for second through fourth in the Big 12 with three other teams. They lost to both Baylor and Texas.

    See how that kind of anecdotal, cherry picking works? It doesn’t. One game does not mean fourth in the Big 12 = best in the SEC.

  26. drummerhoff says: Jun 23, 2014 9:21 AM

    A golfer loses his lead because (1) the guy behind him birdies a bunch of holes or (2) the leader bogies a bunch of holes.

    UT has been playing bogie college football for a bunch of years.
    The fact that A&M surpassed them is no surprise.

  27. texizz says: Jun 23, 2014 9:42 AM

    Your calculator is broken! Granted, aTm is a better team than Texas right now. Texas has won 4 National Championships and aTm has won 1. aTm is trying to catch up and hasn’t surpassed anyone yet. With that said, please tell me when you think aTm will win an SEC Football Title or a National Football Title?

  28. independenttexan says: Jun 23, 2014 10:41 AM

    I don’t know when A&M will win an SEC title. Maybe next year, maybe never.

    But you Horns like to live in the past when you are debating Ags. Vince Young, James Street, etc. Blah blah blah. “Call me when you guys win your conference”. Hell, Longhorns, how long has it been since YOU won your conference? Six years maybe?

    Heck, I remember when Orangebloods were “too good” to even engage in the debate. Hell, there were days when there just wasn’t any debate at all.

    Live in the now. The Ags are running circles around you in recruiting. The Big XII exists only because Oklahoma hasn’t found a better place to go yet. Texas arrogance is not very attractive. How’s that Longhorn Network working out for you guys?

  29. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 10:44 AM

    tu should feel lucky to be in the Big12. It’s the weakest power conference. The Mountain West came very close to having more guys go to the NFL than the Big12; 17 to 16! Check out this article from Barking Carnival:

  30. txstatebobcats1868 says: Jun 23, 2014 10:57 AM

    asspantz says: Jun 23, 2014 12:42 AM

    What is a bobcat?
    Located 30 minutes south of Austin, on the beautiful San Marcos River, lies Texas State University. Home to about 35,000 students, mostly known for being a party school. Formerly known as South West Texas State University until it dropped the South West part in the early 2000’s. Now in the Sun Belt conference, most notably known for our baseball team, football is still struggling finishing seasons at .500. Head football coach is Dennis Franchione, former A&m and Alabama head coach.

  31. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 11:05 AM

    tsips always boast their 4 Natty’s or their overall record against A&M. And 4 Natty’s is a great achievement. But until 1974, recruiting was not a level playing ground in Texas. 1974 is the year that the NCAA limited scholarships to 85 for Division 1 teams. Up until that time, tu’s 3rd string was as talented as A&M’s 1st string. Since that date, the record between A&M and tu is 19-19! I bet that most of you didn’t know that.

    1973 was also the first year women were allowed entrance into A&M. When I graduated in 1967, the enrollment at A&M was 12,500 and it was 32,500 at tu. Now it’s 58,000 at A&M and 50,000 at tu. I’m sure that the women helped a whole bunch in increasing enrollment. However, IMO the fact that A&M is more of a conservative school helped. “Facts tell, BS walks.”

  32. 8to80texansblog says: Jun 23, 2014 11:13 AM

    Ahhh… the old A&M v tu debate…. warms my heart!

    I like @drummerhoff’s analogy but you have to admit, though it’s obvious Texas has been bogeying some holes lately, A&M has been taking full advantage and knocking in an eagle and some birdies of their own.

    And for you @pricecube… 5th in the SEC did actually equal 5th in the national polls. A&M’s first year in the SEC, we finished 5th (btw a 10-2 team finishing 5th in a conference is insane) and we were still the 5th best team in the country according to the year end polls.

    This A&M v Texas power dynamic is now, and probably always will be cyclical. Texas tends to take a longer turn at the driver seat (go figure… tsips taking more than a fair share) , but A&M is firmly planted there now. Winning a Heisman was great, but we need to capitalize on this run from a team achievement standpoint, because the tsips are right, we hounded them for years for doing less with more, let’s not fall into that same track.

  33. pricecube says: Jun 23, 2014 12:03 PM

    “And for you @pricecube… 5th in the SEC did actually equal 5th in the national polls. A&M’s first year in the SEC, we finished 5th (btw a 10-2 team finishing 5th in a conference is insane) and we were still the 5th best team in the country according to the year end polls.”

    Yeah I get that. And last year OU was tied for fourth in the Big 12 and finished #6 in the nation. That sort of thing is an aberration and not something unique to the SEC.

  34. matthall969 says: Jun 23, 2014 12:14 PM

    I only partially agree with the “cyclical” part of this argument. Before 1974, as pointed out above, the pure numbers of students and money Texas was able to bring to the table, along with no scholarship limits, meant easy domination for the Longhorns. Very little room for error on A&M’s part and the cylcles were Longhorn heavy.
    Since 1974, and while in the same conference, the cycles were much closer. It was hard for one team to be strong without the other being weak. I believe money and # of students still weighed in Texas’ favor, so although the head to head series was tied 19-19, Texas’ good years were better than A&M’s good years in that era.
    I believe we are in a new, much different era now. What is cyclical, may be conference power. SEC is at the height of that cycle. It may wane from here quickly with the first national championship loss in 7 years. But in the meantime, A&M has caught Texas in the amount of students on campus, which will lead to similar power to raise funds. A&M also doesn’t have to fight Texas from an even standpoint. You aren’t telling a kid, come to the same conference, the same state, the same almost everything except for who is winning on the field. For the first time A&M is selling something different. That is the SEC.

    Come play against the best competition. Come play in the league perceived to give you the best chance to play at the next level. And do it from your home state.

    A&M may be just riding a high right now. But Texas can’t effect state recruiting by winning a game on Thanksgiving day or maybe even winning a conference championship. There is no counterbalance that can be controlled by the school. Texas isn’t in complete control of the cycle.

    Not until the next era, one perhaps where Texas moves conferences to counter A&M’s move, will this advantage for sure change. More students equals more alumni which equals more fans watching games and more money rolling in. SEC domination means a built in advantage in recruiting.

    And if Charlie Strong doesn’t win BIG in 2014, this could mean a LONG drought for the Longhorns moving forward. The beauty is, even if he does win, the recruiting battle may not lean back his way due to these other variables.

    So bang you chests Longhorn fans. Talk about the past domination. It’s on record. Easy stuff to fall back on. But I know deep down you are worried about the future of your program and it’s dominance in Texas. Because right now, #WRTS.
    And it remains to be seen if this is a 12 month cycle or a 12 year cycle…

  35. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 12:20 PM

    It’s not an aberration when the SEC wins 7 out of the last 8 Natty’s and finishes the year with 40% to 50% of its teams in the Top 10 polls. With that said, hats off to OU for beating BAMA! You have to give Bob Stoops credit!!

  36. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 12:33 PM

    Red McCombs and other tu power brokers have taken note of the increase in A&M enrollment and what that means for their football program. Another tu advantage will eventually be mitigated. While tu has a much larger alumni base than A&M, Aggies give back to their school at a higher rate.

    tu does lead the nation in total football revenue. But that lead is being cut into by A&M and other schools. As for A&M, a 102,500 seat stadium with 114 suites, SEC revenue sharing and an energized fan base which will contribute big time, A&M will soon reduce tu’s revenue lead.

  37. dmvtransplant says: Jun 23, 2014 12:47 PM

    goodfieldnohit says:

    A&M boat raced Oklahoma in the Cotton Bowl. OU was the Big12 Champion.


    No Kansas State was the Big 12 champ that year. That’s why KSU was in the Fiesta Bowl and not the Cotton Bowl like the year before.

  38. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 1:36 PM

    Larry, the reason enrollment is high at a&m is because the standards are lower. And Texas gives back more then you aggies, all you have to do is look it up!!!

  39. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 1:39 PM

    Wow, typical ignorant aggie. A&M allowed women in in 1964, the year the corp became non compulsory. In the first twenty years after that you pathetic aggies only won 5 games against Texas. Learn your history!!!

  40. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 1:42 PM

    You are really pathetic. And the more you run your mouth the more you prove it and not smart or clever like you incorrectly seem to think you are. Guess Big 12 have some years 9 out of tens in bowls and making more money per school then your poor pathetic SUC is weak to you. Guess you really do have an inferiority complex simply because you really are inferior, LMFAO!!!

  41. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 1:45 PM

    Here is some now for you, aggies finished 6th in the SEC tied with Vandy and 4th their first year. Aggies got a gift of eight home games last year and still barely managed to finish 9-4. And with all that talent aggies let eight teams hang over 30 points on them last year. You cannot even live in the past because your is so pathetic!!!

  42. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 1:47 PM

    Sure, keep drinking the Kool Aide when you barely go 9-4, finish 6th in the SEC tied with Vandy and let 8 teams hang over 30 points on you last year, LOL!!!

  43. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 1:49 PM

    Sure, whatever you say. Gifted 8 home games, let 8 teams hang over 30 points on you and never been able to finish better then 4th in the SEC.

  44. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 1:51 PM

    Gotta luv an aggies mentality, no matter how limited it is!!!

  45. matthall969 says: Jun 23, 2014 1:54 PM

    6th in the SEC = Top 5 national recruiting class and winning 80% of head to head matchups against Texas in recruiting. What would 3rd in the SEC mean?

    No delusions here, just hope backed up by many things trending our way.

  46. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 1:54 PM

    Funny how in aggieland it is guilty until proven innocent. And even funnier how there were about half a dozen aggie football players arrested last year. Moron, LMFAO, poor pathetic aggie!!!

  47. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 1:57 PM

    Scurried out of the Big 12 like the cowards you were and always will be. Barely a .500 team in the Big 12 and had more players arrested last year then Texas had in the last decade. Keep drinking the Kool Aide and talking about how wonderful you are. Only aggies believe that. To everyone else you are a joke and a really bad one at that!!!

  48. coolhorn46 says: Jun 23, 2014 1:58 PM

    I’ve stayed out of this discussion because, well, I’ve posted enough here from a UT viewpoint that I think my position on things is pretty well-known, and I’m not fond of beating dead horses.

    My sole contribution to this discussion is this…a poster above claims UT suffers, and will continue to do so, by it’s membership in the Big XII. I agree. I don’t think the conference is built to last, and I think UT, and OU, will need to make a move to completely regain the relevance that they’ve enjoyed for decades. I just don’t see any set of circumstances, now, or in the future, under which the Big XII will find the right two schools to add and regain it’s standing among the P-5 conferences.

    I would add this provision to my statement above…Nobody yet knows how things are gonna shake out after the O’Bannon trial’s conclusion, and after the first few Big Four playoffs occur. Nobody’s even for sure right now that the current conference setup will remain in place. Nobody can be certain what would happen if the big schools break away from the NCAA and go to a Division Four setup. About the only thing anybody can be certain of is this…there’s been a lot of changes taking place over the last half of a decade, and there are probably a whole lot more in store over the next half a decade.

    TAMU is, in fact, running the board in in-state recruiting right now. I’m as much a UT fan as anyone who posts here, but I don’t look at the world through burnt orange glasses. Charlie Strong and his staff still have a mountain to climb before getting UT back on even-footing with the ags in recruiting, much less surpassing them. There is only so much he can do to negate the A&M advantage too. Their move to the SEC was a smart one, no matter where they finish in the standings for the time being. Charlie Strong doesn’t come with a guarantee…no head coach does. Still…he’s shown me little reason to lose faith that he’s the right coach, right now, to effect the culture change that was needed by UT football.

  49. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 2:07 PM

    And yet with a couple of lucky years, all that talent and the Johnny Manziel hype machine you finished 4th in the SEC your first year, 6th in the SEC tied with Vandy your second year and even with a gift of 8 home games still let 8 teams hang 30 or more points on you barely finishing 9-4. The Johnny Manziel show is now over and all the press and smoke and mirrors that came along with him is gone. Good luck in the fall, you are going to need it!!!

  50. williered says: Jun 23, 2014 2:19 PM

    A single NC some 74 years ago, no conference titles in 16 years, a record of 4-10 against UT in the past 14 games and not but not least 27-25 forever. The only crumb left for bragging is recruiting which has resulted in mid-pack SEC finishes the past two seasons.

  51. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 2:25 PM

    Typically sips! When you lack facts, you demonize and demean. Won’t work with me.

    1st missed fact: A&M opened enrollment to the daughters of faculty in 1964. There were about 17 who enrolled. It wasn’t later that they admitted all women.

    2nd erroneous statement: If you could read, you would know that my statement was the # of teams in the EOY Top 10 polls.

    3rd erroneous statement: In A&M’s first season, they finished 11-2 and 5th in the nation. Vanderbilt finished 23rd.

    4th erroneous statement: I never said that our alumni gave more. I actually said that tu did.

    5th statement is actually correct concerning enrollment requirements. But if you will look at this link you will see that the SAT scores are pretty close. As far as I’m concerned, I’d rather give more students the opportunity to get a quality education. As it is now, A&M had to turn down 20,000 students last year.

    6th erroneous statement: We actually won 14 of the next 20 games starting with 1974. You demean people for their ignorance. I won’t do that. Just look it up.

    You called me pathetic, that I didn’t know my facts, that I had an inferiority complex and that I was living in the past. Look in the mirror. Next time read closer and check out your facts. This is one of the reasons why other fans dislike sip fans. They result to personal attacks and overload their mouth before engaging their brain.

  52. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 2:39 PM

    Just read your other posts. Keep ranting. You are spewing so many incorrect facts that I can’t keep up with them. But one I will answer. Tom Powers invited A&M to jump ship with tu to join the PAC10 at the time. We decided our own fate and went to a better conference.

    I wish tu the best. However, this continued air of arrogance wears not only on the fans of other teams but on the high school coaches. I have links for their comments if you want them.

  53. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 4:05 PM

    Studdmuffins, don’t want to play anymore?? I guess ranting doesn’t match up with facts. Btw, in response to all of your insults, I attended the U of Texas Law School.

  54. matthall969 says: Jun 23, 2014 4:08 PM

    Hey studdmuffins, what is the highest that A&M has finished in the SEC standings? I can’t remember.

    You lack vision and you lack being able to look at the situation objectively.

    Bottom line, you’re probably an embarrassment to your fan base. I won’t speak for them of course. Hammer your points home, I don’t care or mind. I know where our situations lie, not only the past, but also what promise there is for the future. I’m excited by the promise but not expecting anything. And it will be hard to watch, in 2014, when we struggle with a young team in a tough conference. But look out after that, we should be really good for several years or more. Not sure you can objectively say the same. Except that it’s the future and who knows…

    Coolhorn46: You ARE a cool Horn… somebody that could have this discussion with in a bar without having punches thrown. :)

  55. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 4:23 PM

    Look who is talking about being an embarrassment, LOL!!! First you do not even know that the best you have finished in the SEC is 4th and last year you finished 6th tied with Vandy. And talk about not being objective. Wow, your team again finished 6th, had the gift of eight home games and yet still barely went 9-4. And you let 8 teams put up over 30 points on you last season. You have had some marginal success in recruiting, but that that was mostly due to the over the top behavior and media attention paid to Johny crash and burn. And even with all that supposed talent you still let all the above things happen to your team. And it is funny how down in college station when you go 8-4 in the regular season the coach gets a raise and an extension like he actually did something, while in Austin, with the same record, the coach is forced out. Guess the standards are a lot lower in college station then in Austin. Now try to deny any of that and see how far it gets you, LMFAO!!!

  56. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 4:27 PM

    Love when people like you claim all these accomplishments and in reality you are the janitor at the grade school that they never could seem to graduate from. I can play with you as much as you want , but unlike you I also have a real job that I do not have to lie about it simply because you have an inferiority complex simply because you really are inferior. So keep it up and keep showing everyone how ignorant you are and not smart or clever like you incorreclty think of yourself!!!

  57. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 4:28 PM

    You claim you went to law school and yet you do not even know the definition of the word rant. Typical aggie, keeps proving what a joke he is, and a bad one at that, LMFAO!!!

  58. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 5:06 PM

    Studdmuffins, don’t have to claim anything. It’s a fact. I retired as an executive with Xerox. Ran my own company. And I use my name on blogs. I don’t hide behind a name like “Studdmuffins”. I keep putting facts out there and you keep on shooting off your mouth. Go back and look at what you’ve written.

    I don’t call others names like a middle schooler. I’m tired of this discussion. You’ve got nothing. This is a waste of time.

  59. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 5:15 PM

    Poor little baby got your panties in a wad, LOL! Got nothing? Sure seems like I hit a nerve. People like you who have to talk about how wonderful they are and all they have accomplished are completely lying 99.9% of the time and suffer from an inferiority complex simply because they really are inferior. You are right, you are a waste of time. You try to change the subject to yourself and cannot even talk about football simply because you cannot deny anything I said. Go back to sucking your pacifier nw and have someone change your diaper because what you are saying is really smells bad, LOL!!!

  60. agintn says: Jun 23, 2014 5:45 PM

    Hey, Stud, let’s talk about your team for a moment.

    Given how much you are running your mouth, your Longhorns must be best team in the country. They must annually dominate the national recruiting scene. You must have the best coach and the best players. Your conference must be the most difficult, and the Longhorns must dominate it every year. The NFL must be filled with Longhorns.

    Wait, none of those things are true?

    Then maybe you have no room to talk.

    The Longhorns have dominated recruiting for years until recently but have only mustered 3 conference championships in the history of the Big 12. I don’t care who you are, when you recruit that well, that’s pathetic.

    Since scholarship limits in 1974 you have 1 national title. For the dominant program you seem think you are, that’s pretty pathetic too.

    Here are some national title counts since 1974 for some teams you probably think your Longhorns are better than:

    Alabama – 5
    Miami – 5
    Oklahoma – 4
    USC – 3
    Florida – 3
    FSU – 3
    Nebraska – 3
    Notre Dame – 2

    Your team is an outright joke, and things aren’t looking good any time soon.

    With a litigious Baylor & TCU in your conference and Texas Tech attached at your hip, things aren’t changing any time soon.

    The only thing you have going for you is that Oklahoma isn’t leaving the Big 12 any time soon either due to OSU.

    Why do you go post about your “real” rival for a change?

  61. borisgv says: Jun 23, 2014 5:52 PM

    Texas A&M is the Jan Brady of Texas college football.

    When they lose (which they mostly did in the Big 12) they make excuses and whine about nothing being fair.

    When they win (not championships because they don’t win those, but winning records) they act like they are the pinnacle of what every program should be; agree with them and they love you, disagree and they turn into raging lunatics.

    True blueblood winning programs don’t go overboard with gloating when they win and don’t go into jaded, severely depressed bitterness when they don’t. A&M doesn’t know how to handle winning with class, and that’s the first sign of a program who isn’t used to doing it consistently.

  62. borisgv says: Jun 23, 2014 6:36 PM

    As far as The Big 12 goes, it remains to be seen what will happen to the conference. I imagine it will end up with UT, Tech, and OU heading to the Pac-12 at some point.

    But if UT were to decide it wanted to go to the SEC they would take in the Horns without questions. I still remember when the conference expansion thing heated up back in 2009/10 at A&M was rumored to be going to the SEC but ESPN broke the story that the SEC really wanted Texas, not A&M, but would take both. It ended up that Texas said no and A&M didn’t get an invitation.

    I imagine the SEC decided to go ahead and invite A&M with the hope UT would follow at some point. And if UT wants to, they will.

  63. dg0122 says: Jun 23, 2014 7:48 PM

    No one has mentioned the fact that aggy stole this we run.______garbage from Georgia

  64. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 7:56 PM

    The only thing that is a joke here is you poor pathetic jealous hater. Like the way you cherry pick your years trying desperately to prove you moronic point. Facts are Texas has:
    Four national championships
    A better winning percentage then any of the teams you mentioned.
    The second most winning program in the country with Heisman and all Americans to back it up.
    When you try to take a small slice of time to prove your idiotic point you only make yourself look stupid and not smart or clever like you incorrectly seem to think you are.
    So do tell, who is your team and let’s do a comparison loser, LOL!!!

  65. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 8:15 PM

    Omenihu and Elliott are officially talking to A&M. I wouldn’t be surprised that Weathersby is also. If they surpass in talent who were already talking to, we’ll take them. Otherwise, you can keep them.

    Henderson and Olaka turned out to be great talents and were very happy to take them last year. We’ll cherry pick who we want.

    With all the top talent coming to A&M, it looks like the sip recruits are looking to join the best!

  66. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 8:23 PM

    It is so funny how aggie fans like you are talking so much trash when your team has not accomplished anything. The only reason you were even on the radar was because of Johnny crash and burn. and now with him gone the future does not look so bright. We will see come signing day how many of these you even keep. When you finish 6th in your conference when you said you would be in the national title hunt, have really good talent and still mange to lose 4 games and let 8 teams score over 30 points on you, you are already trending back down to the less then mediocre team you always have been. Good luck, you are going to need it if your trending continues and all your recruits start bailing on you when they realize what a bunch of losers you really are. Just like you, bragging on yourself when in reality you are probably flipping burgers at your local Dairy Queen, LMFAO!!!

  67. studdmuffins says: Jun 23, 2014 8:24 PM

    Live long and thrive Larry, LOL. Just another used car salesman wannabe!!!

  68. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 8:28 PM

    You guys have nothing to say. All you can do is hide behind your computers and spew out hate. You are very poor representatives of your university; if you went to tu.

  69. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 8:29 PM

    Do you know what tu alumni call Aggies?…Boss!

  70. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 8:32 PM

    Studdmuffins was smart enough to find my website. Not too hard for a moron. Shows that I don’t hide who I am like you guys. You guys probably didn’t finish school.

  71. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 8:37 PM

    It’s too bad you guys weren’t smart enough to hire Franklin. He’s a coach we respected the most and thought could turn tu around. All you have to do is look at what he’s doing at Penn State. Then compare it what Charlie has done.

    While your looking backwards to hold onto some glory, Charlie is looking forward to 2016. He has to. 2015 recruiting is a train wreck!

  72. Larry Heitman says: Jun 23, 2014 8:55 PM

    In 1984, my wife and I went to Austin to support the Ags. tu was having a pretty good year coming into the A&M game. We were big underdogs but went anyway to support our team. At halftime A&M was up by approximately 3 TD’s. When we look across to the student side, they had abandoned their team and left. I’m sure you guys are the same fair weathered fans. Some things never change!

  73. agdub says: Jun 24, 2014 10:57 AM

    The sip tears in here taste so good.

  74. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 11:14 AM

    That is hysterical. The only only one here sitting behind his computer all day long because you are probably unemployed is you. Sorry, but it is so much fun making fun of you delusional aggies, who have not accomplished ANYTHING, and act like you could even be in the same room with Texas based on your football accomplishments. Which are pretty much nil by the way, and I am not talking about the two fake national and one fake Big 12 title you put up on your stadium to make yourself feel better and pad your resume when you left for the SEC!!!

  75. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 11:16 AM

    The only problem for you poor pathetic aggies is that they are tears of laughter, LOL!!!

  76. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 11:19 AM

    When in doubt poor old Larry lies about everything thinking anyone but another stupid aggie would believe anything he says. Guess that is why Texas is in the top five in attendance and you losers are not even in the top ten, LMFAOA!!!

  77. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 11:25 AM

    Here we go, an aggie with a coach that finished 6th in his conference last year and 4th the year before claiming he knows about hiring coaches. Guess the poor pathetic aggies do not know what Charlie did at Louisville or the fact he helped Florida win two national championships. Good luck with Sumlin. , 4th in 2012, 6th in 2013, so 8th in 2014, LMFAOA!!!

  78. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 11:33 AM

    Poor aggie, all he can do is tell a joke because the biggest one around here is really him!!!

  79. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 11:35 AM

    Look who is calling who a moron. Guess you are not even smart enough to know all you have to do is click on your name. Otherwise I would not waste my time on a pathetic loser like you trying to hawk some kind of nonsense to supplement his $8 an hour income flipping burgers at Dairy Queen, LOL!!!

  80. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 11:38 AM

    Say what ever you have to say to make yourself feel better, even if it is a lie. Right now Texas is in the top 20 and by the time you aggies go 6-6 and do not have the Manziel hype machine anymore we will see how many players jump ship. Poor ole aggies, cannot even call you has beens because you simply have never been anything to begin with, LMFAOA!!!

  81. tw021007 says: Jun 24, 2014 12:09 PM

    Here’s some history for you studdmuffins.

    “The series continued to be dominated for the most part by Texas until participation in the Corps of Cadets was made optional at Texas A&M in 1965, with the Longhorns leading the Aggies 26-19 since. As of 2010 the last 36 meetings have seen 18 victories for each side.”

    Looks like the records have been pretty even since we have been on an even playing field.

  82. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 12:29 PM

    Here is some real history for you. all you aggies whine about the corp and how it was holding back your football program. But in the time the corp became non compulsory in 1965, for the first 20 years after that Texas was 15-5 against you aggies and overall since then we lead you 20-17. The only time you aggies had a streak going was in the mid 80’s until the mid 90’s when we were stuck with McWilliams and Makovic. And even in the last 15 times we met before you aggies tucked tail and ran out of the Big 12 we owned you 10-5. And that is why the record is 76-37-5 and it is also why we own you poor pathetic aggies and always will. A couple of good years of recruiting means nothing when you finish 4th and 6th consecutively in your conference. You can not take a slice of time that benefits your warped view of the world and say, hey, oh look, we are tied. It only makes you look stupid and not smart or clever like you incorrectly seem to think you are, LOL!!!

  83. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 2:28 PM

    This just in. tu dropped to 17th on 2015 team recruiting. Charlie can’t find anyone to commit. Everyone else is passing him like he’s standing still. Oh wait! He is!!

  84. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 2:29 PM

    Don’t worry about the Aggies future. It all looks good! You guys are stuck in the worst power conference and going nowhere. But don’t worry, we’ll throw you a bone every once and a while.

  85. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 2:47 PM

    Hey Studdmisfit, where are you? Come back man!

  86. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 3:52 PM

    Hey Stuffbiscuit, be back in a little bit. Just wanted to leave you a thought.

    Just finished listening to Marcus Lodge, 5 Star A&M commit from Cedar Hill. What a stud!! Saw him play in last year’s playoffs. He was a man playing among boys. I was disappointed when I heard he was going to tu last year. I guess he wised up! I’m glad he decided to join the best! But that’s becoming a trend!!

  87. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 4:01 PM

    Funny how you keep dwelling on recruiting when you can’t develop the players you do have. 11-2, 9-4 so next season should be 7-6. LOL!!!

  88. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 4:04 PM

    Funny how you call us the worst power conference and yet we make more money per school and send a larger percentage of our teams to bowls
    . And the SEC got stuck with you an Mizzou!!!

  89. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 4:07 PM

    Sorry, takes a while for me to get back to you after laughing so hard at your poor pathetic attempts to tell me how wonderful you are personally and how great your team is. Love the name calling. Did you think that up all by yourself on your break at Dairy Queen, LOL!!!

  90. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 4:12 PM

    Just wanted to leave you with a thought. 2012, 11-2 finished 4th in the SEC. 2013, Barely 9-4 and finished 6th in the SEC tied with Vandy. And if the trend continues, which it usually does with you aggies, 7-6 next season. You can talk up your recruiting all you want. But by the time you are done blowing a another season for the 100th time all your so called commits will be somewhere else and you will scurry of to the MAC because you can no longer handle the SEC just like you played so pathetically in the Big 12!!!

  91. tw021007 says: Jun 24, 2014 5:47 PM

    The offensive weapons were there when Sumlin arrived, but the defense wasn’t. He has recruited well, and you can’t say he hasn’t developed the players because he hasn’t had time to develop them yet.

    You better hope that Strong is good at developing 2 and 3 stars because that’s all he is going to be able to pull.

  92. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 6:08 PM

    In reference to the Good Guys having a 7-6 season, the only time you want to talk about the future is our record. Your mind and that of other Longhorn Losers is so stuck in the past glory days of the horns that it forgot what it takes to recruit and win games.

    Or did I mistake the whole Longhorn Country Club issue?

  93. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 6:11 PM

    You keep talking about A&M not developing players. You guys recruited (5) 5 stars in 2010. And how many were drafted this last round? Zippo!! Oh, I forgot. tu is where talent goes to die!!!!

  94. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 6:14 PM

    You keep talking about A&M going 7-6 in 2014. What, you got a crystal ball over there hiding behind your computer?

    I’m the only one in this discussion living in the present. Btw, I’m putting up Sumlin’s 20-6 record against Brown’s 18-8 in their first two years. All you got is smack!

  95. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 6:23 PM

    Wait a minute, A&M just got another commitment. Got to check him out. We’re used to getting 2 or 3 top guys a week. 5 Star Lodge and 5 Star Little and 3 Star Moore (170 tackles last year) last week.

    I hope you understand. We’re building a championship at A&M. I guess you guys forgot how to do that. Your last commit was May 12th.

  96. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 6:38 PM

    Studdmuffins, I’m back. Miss me? You have to understand that recruiting is a little slow this week. Coaches are taking a very well deserved vacation.

    Back to what you were saying. All I’m talking about is recruiting? I guess you don’t know how you build a winning program. So, let me inform you. You build it by recruiting the top players in the country.

    5 Star Kyler Murray (#1 Dual Threat QB in the nation), 5 Star Kyle Allen (#1 Pro Style QB in the nation), 5 Star Myles Garrett (#1 WDE in the nation), 5 Star Speedy Noil (#1 WR in the nation), 5 Star Daylon Mack, and 5 Star DaMarkus Lodge.

    The only 5 Stars you sips have seen is in your dreams. Oh Yeah, everybody keeps taking yours from you. LSU took Teuhema and BAMA took A’Shawn Robinson. I guess they wanted to play in the best conference, the SEC.

  97. agintn says: Jun 24, 2014 6:41 PM


    If you think using 1974 for statistical purposes is cherry picking, then you must either be very young or new to the sport.

    In 1974 the NCAA leveled the playing field in college athletics by setting limitations on the number of scholarships that could be awarded for sports such as football.

    These limitations kept schools like Texas and LSU and many others from hoarding all of the talent from their respective states. Prior to the limitations, almost all of the talent in Texas, Louisiana, and Oklahoma (where Texas scheduled their opponents) went to the three major programs (Texas, LSU, and Oklahoma).

    This meant that the other schools were incredibly disadvantaged.

    As an example, did you know that LSU prior to the limitations had several offensive units that were capable of starting for almost any other university?

    Additionally, in those early years, Texas regularly scheduled high schools, church schools, and all those other joke texas schools you keep talking about.

    Want an example? Look at 1913: 2 high schools, 3 small colleges that could barely be considered as such, and 1 real opponent (Oklahoma) that you barely beat (8pts) miles from their home in Houston. Then you play another real opponent after the end of the season and get crushed.

    This how the Longhorns have the winning percentage that they have.

    Think 1913 is an aberration, check out 1918: Camp Mabry, Ream Field, Penn Radio School (twice) and then the usual church schools and other small schools; 1930: 3 church schools, 5 other schools with a combined enrollment that was dwarfed by the Longhorns, and as usual, one real opponent all season, which the Longhorns miraculously beat this time.

    Look at all the seasons in between if you want to, you’re not going to find a season where your record wasn’t padded in some form or fashion.

    Again, 1974 is not cherry picking, it’s when college football as we know it actually started.

    I’ll state again, since the modern era of football, the Longhorns have been loaded with Texas talent and yet have only 1 national title to their name. That is truly pathetic given that they have by your own admission not regularly faced any real opponents with the exception of Oklahoma.

    (Oh and since you asked about my school, I have advanced degrees from Stanford and MIT in physics and applied mathematics.)

  98. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 7:00 PM

    Well said “agintn”!! Is that Ag in Tennessee?

    From 1963 to 1967, A&M had two players that weighed over 200 lbs. Jack Pyburn and Mo Morman. It’s hard to win when you don’t have the talent.

    Since a level playing field has been established, the W-L is even. Now the sips are afraid to play us. With the whipping we’d give them, no one would commit to the losers.

  99. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 7:06 PM

    So his second year in he has not had time to develope players. Let 8 teams hang more then 30 points on you. Typical aggie excuses.

  100. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 7:09 PM

    Look who is talking about being a loser. It is so pathetic that you consider the last couple of years glory years. You have done nothing. Have not even won a conference championship. And after your first year in the SEC you are already trending down. Guess it is hard for aggies to understand the term glory when they have never had it.

  101. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 7:11 PM

    Poor pathetic moron, if you even knew math you would know that those 5 stars have not even graduated yet. And you aggies again, with all your supposed talent and a Heisman trophy winner could barely win 9 games and let all those teams including Rice, put up big numbers on you. Gag Em Aggies!!!

  102. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 7:12 PM

    I never said the past two years were glory days. We don’t look backwards like sips. We’re looking forward building a power team one great player at a time.

  103. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 7:14 PM

    You really think you are living in the present. So do tell, what has your so called wonderful team accomplished over the last two years, tn years or even twenty years. The answer is absolutely nothing. Whether i is the past, the present or the future, an aggies is an aggie and that is nothing more then a bad joke!!!

  104. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 7:14 PM

    I feel sorry for you. You won’t even face reality or even your past history. Great tu teams were built by recruiting 5 and 4 stars.

  105. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 7:15 PM

    Just to let you know how a first rate program works. I know you guys in Austin have forgotten what it’s like.

    We just got a commitment from the #1 Kicker/Punter combo in the nation according to Jaime Kohl of Kohl’s Kicking Academy.

    Studdmistress, you can make up all the facts you want. Sumlin’s record beats your best for a first two year stretch. And while we compete for championships, you guys will be in the middle of the worst power conference in the country.

  106. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 7:16 PM

    Your building a championship, LOL! you are already trending downward and the fact that you said you would be in the national championship hunt last year and barely made it to 9-4 speaks volumes about your team and your coaches. It is amazing that you keep talking about how wonderful you are when you have accomplished nothing!!!

  107. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 7:18 PM

    In the last 15 years you have only managed three better recruiting classes then Texas. You know what you accomplished, nothing. No title no Big 12 or SEC championships, nothing. Sure am going to enjoy seeing all those so called commitments jumping ship on you after the season, Aggies, once a joke, always a joke

  108. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 7:22 PM

    Got to love all the excuses you keep making up. First it was compulsory corp now it is this. The bottom line is you aggies are a joke, never won anything never will. And when in doubt, make up an excuse. Enjoy your couple of good years of recruiting because like everything else it will be short live, LOL!!!

  109. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 7:23 PM

    Let’s talk about player development. A&M > 3 players in the NFL 1st round. How many for tu? How many were drafted? Zippo, Nada, Zilch. And your 2010 class was loaded with 5 and 4 Stars.

    tu is where talent goes to die. And high school studs know that. So where would you like to play if you’re a stud? With a winner. They’re all going to A&M.

    You can’t see it because you have burnt orange blinders on. But you don’t matter. It’s the high school players. And they’re choosing A&M!!

  110. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 7:26 PM

    And again, another excuse. Guess since you point about the corp being compulsory not proving your point you have to make up some other excuse!!!

  111. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 7:28 PM

    There you go again, living in the past. We’re not talking about the past 15 years of recruiting. Those guys can’t play for tu or A&M anymore. But the last four classes can. And A&M has taken honors in 3 of those 4 years.

    In fact, we’ve had 2 years in the top 10 and we are 2nd this year. If you want to look at history, the teams who recruit top 10 classes play for championships. The teams that recruit like tu, play in the Alamo Bowl!

  112. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 7:32 PM

    And while were talking recruiting, we already have (2) 5 Stars committed for the class of 2016 with two more 5 Stars soon to commit.

    The momentum has changed. For once A&M holds the advantage! And that’s the SEC and Coach Sumlin. Btw, the kids and parents love not only Sumlin but his assistant coaches.

    The worm has turned in Texas and tu will have to sit in the shadow of big brother A&M!

  113. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 7:34 PM

    Most of the guys that we’re getting like Mack and Lodge were lifelong horns and wanted to go to tu. You guys screwed the pooch! Arrogance, pride and complacency is a good formula for FAILURE!

  114. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 7:40 PM

    Couple weeks ago, a Texas Tech alumnus was sitting next to Daylon Mack’s father on an plane flight. He said that Strong’s program is not ready yet. He couldn’t send his son there. Btw, both the father and Daylon were lifelong Horn fans!

    Gotta send the kids to where they will be “coached” up. Sorry Charlie!! You’re just not ready for prime time!!!

  115. Larry Heitman says: Jun 24, 2014 7:44 PM

    Btw, when his son committed to A&M, they received so much hate messaging from sip fans that it was disturbing. In response, he said his son would never go to tu if it was the last football program in the country!!

    All the hate that you’ve spewed out in your posts and that of other longhorn haters is a prime reason why at least one 5 Star will never go to tu. Who wants to go to a school attended by lunatics?

    I’m done for the night! Try sleeping on this!

  116. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 9:06 PM

    Just look in the mirror to see who is talking trash and spewing hate. You and all aggies hatred of Texas is based on the fact that we have always been better then you and always will be!!!

  117. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 9:07 PM

    and now you just tell complete lies to prove your point. Guess it does not matter that as far as coaching goes Strong is more successful then Sumlin. Idiot!!!

  118. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 9:09 PM

    The only one showing arrogance and pride here is you aggies. And the thing is there is no reason for it. Statistically you stink and are already on a downward spiral. And you keep bragging about the last two years, which by Texas standards are pathetic!!!

  119. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 9:12 PM

    You keep talking about things that have not happened yet. If you aggies continue on your current trajectory you will be a six lose team this year and we will see where you end up in recruiting. Nothing matters until they sign on the dotted line. And when the smoke clears and you aggies prove yourselves to be the perennial losers you always are we will see what happens!!!

  120. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 9:17 PM

    Do you just like to make things up to show people how ignorant you are. First, you only had two better recruiting classes then Texas in the last four years and you have never been second not once. Nice to see you trying to live in the past, only problem with that is your past pretty much is a joke!!!

  121. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 9:26 PM

    Funny how you had all that supposed talent anda Heisman winner and you still lost four games and your defense sucked. Great player development there, LOL. Texas has had only one year in 78 that a player was not drafted you aggies have half a dozen. And we still have more players in the NFL than you losers!!!

  122. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 9:28 PM

    I challenge you to name one thing I have made up. While you on the other hand have made up many. Give me a break. Sumlin is nothing compared to Strong. You can crow all you want, but in reality tell me one thing you have accomplished over the last two years other than a couple of good recruiting classes. And that is nothing!!!

  123. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 9:31 PM

    And I feel sorry for you. Trying to claim how wonderful you are when you finish 6th in the SEC. Trying to claim how great you are when you have not won a conference championship in 15 years and your lone national championship is from what, 1937? Texas will always rebound and our bad year last season was comparable to your , which you considered great. That is why you aggies are so pathetic and considered such a joke, and you always will be!!!

  124. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 9:34 PM

    That is exactly what you implied. We at Texas do not look backwards either. But the major difference between our two programs is that Texas has a great tradition of winning, while all you aggies have is a great tradition of running your mouths. The reason you can never look to the past so you can look forward to the future is that you past is a tradition of losing and mediocrity, LOL!!!

  125. agdub says: Jun 24, 2014 9:39 PM

    You sips can talk about and have the past, we’ll take the future.

    p.s. Can one of you loan me your DeLorean?

  126. studdmuffins says: Jun 24, 2014 9:40 PM

    Keep talking about that future you will never have. Think you are all that when you finished 6th in the SEC tied with Vandy. Can you loan me a model T from the last time you won a national championship, LMFAO!!!

  127. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 9:08 AM

    I am “not” talking hate. I have stated facts to support my positions. On the other hand, you have been a CHARACTER ASSASSIN, insulting and made invalid points.

    tu’s arrogance has been written about in all the major football sites. This arrogance creates a firestorm among Longhorn fans when they’re not winning. One of the strategies then becomes to tear down the opposition.

    I’m all for tu winning. I hold no grudges against Longhorns. In fact with the #2 and #4 recruiting classes as juniors and seniors, you should win at least 10 games and could win all 12. One of Coach Strong’s strengths is coaching a strong defense and his offenses did well with Bridgewater. The only issue IMO that you guys have this year is keeping Ash healthy.

    Yes, I’ve been talking a little trash talk with you because that’s the only thing you seem to listen to. But as you’ll notice, I’m not assassinating your character, your integrity or your occupation.

    In politics, “demonization” appears to be a popular strategy. But with a 11% approval rating for Congress, it’s not working too well. Most people want a positive approach based upon a fact based argument without the name calling.

    You are probably a very nice person. But the approach is not respected. Take a look at the “thumbs up” and “thumbs down”.

    I’m going to take a look at the 6 or 7 following messages. Let’s have fun. And i promise to stay factual and respectful

  128. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 9:25 AM

    Hey Studdmuffin, I don’t have hate tu. I have a lot of tu friends. In fact, I have great respect for the 5th best winning program all time. I’d like for A&M to rise to that level and consistently perform at that level.

    There are some things I don’t “like” about “some” tu fans: 1) Arrogance (Not just me. Well documented nationally.) 2) The singing of “Poor Aggies”. That might seem like fun for you. But it is considered by all teams as poor sportsmanship. I went to A&M when it was not a level playing ground. It seemed pretty absurd to rub in victories when tu had the advantage of unlimited scholarships. It’s like cheering for Goliath to kill David. And btw, SEC teams do not act this way. 3) The “hate” speech. 4) Dominating the conversation at parties with how great tu’s football team is. There is more in this world and much important than A&M or tu football.

    But all in all, I “don’t” hate Longhorns. I just don’t “like” some of the things they do as I’m sure you feel the same about Aggies.

  129. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 9:34 AM

    Studdmuffin, there you go again insulting my integrity by stating that I’m lying. However, you didn’t even give me the courtesy of stating the lie.

    In the same post, you said that Strong was more successful than Sumlin. I wish you would have defined success. If you’re referring to their overall head coaching, you’re wrong again. Strong has a 69.8% winning record while Sumlin has a 70.5% record. (check out Wikipedia)

    I’d say that they are both pretty successful coaches! No need to call me an “idiot”! It makes you look bad especially when you get your facts wrong.

  130. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 9:45 AM

    Hey Studdmuffin, there you go again with the insults. Telling people that their football program “stinks” is not nice.

    In reality, we have a very good program. Just check out the major sports media. A&M is called the “IT” program and that we are recruiting quality athletes. This article agrees that “#WRTS”! Just look at the recruiting services and where A&M is ranked.

    Again, your statement that A&M is on a “downward spiral” is incorrect. Even though we did have a 9-4 record last year, recruiting has gotten better. The kids see that Sumlin is building a great program and top athletes want to be a part of that. They are even recruiting each other. Kyler Murray, Daylon Mack and now Damarkus Lodge are leading the way.

    The shame for you guys is that since childhood, Daylon and Damarkus were Longhorn fans and planned on playing for you guys.

  131. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 10:10 AM

    There you go again with the half-truths and the insults! I am not “just” talking about what is to come. I’ve clearly stated that Coach Sumlin’s (20-6) record in his first two years stands up to Mack Brown’s (18-8) and the great Nick Saban (19-8). That is not futures. That is an undeniable past fact.

    I also stated that we had the #9 and #5 ranked recruiting classes in the past two years. And that’s how you build championships; by putting top classes together. That is what Mack Brown and every great coach does! I don’t understand why that doesn’t make sense to you unless you want to somehow refute that A&M is going to produce great football teams. Your reasoning and statements defy logic.

    In regards to your statement that A&M will lose six games, do you have a CRYSTAL BALL? That’s like me saying that tu will lose 12 games or no games. We won’t know until the season is over. However, since i am a realist, I think it is possible for A&M to loose 4 or 5 games this year.

    If they do, will they lose recruits. It’s possible. One I know won’t go to tu is Daylon Mack for reasons stated above. If we do lose any, it won’t be that many. Coach Sumlin has a vision and has set an expectation that we are rebuilding our defense. Now “if” we continue to lose big in 2015 and you guys win big in 2014, I “think” you will start to see more of the top recruits coming your way.

    And btw, you guys did recruit (1) 5 Star and (16) 4 Stars in 2013 and 2014. That’s pretty good. It’s just that we did a little better with (4) 5 Stars and (25) 4 stars.

    And lastly, A&M is not a “perennial loser” as you stated. As stated, since the playing field was leveled, it’s a 19-19 tie in regards to our record against you guys. Now is “mishandling” the truth in and in “insulting” manner?

  132. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 10:24 AM

    There you go again with the insults, questioning my intelligence and the deception. Don’t you know how this makes you look to other people? You lose your case even if you make a good point.

    I stand corrected. We have had a better recruiting class than tu the last two years. I did state, however, that you guys had the #2 and #4 classes for your juniors and seniors.

    In regards to your “mishandling” of the truth, we are rated #2 in recruiting this year. For those who don’t know, Composite is just that a composite of all the major recruiting services. Here’s a link:

    So, our past is not a joke. If our past 38 results is a joke, since tu lost half of those games, by logically default, you would have to say that your past is not a joke. However, I wouldn’t say that. I’m just making a point using “your” words.

  133. agintn says: Jun 25, 2014 10:33 AM

    Good job, Stud.

    I try to talk to a Longhorn about HIS team and HIS team’s record and results, and all he wants to talk about is the Aggies.

    typical Longhorn talking points:

    “We have the best winning %” (built on church schools and high schools)
    “Aggy sucks”
    “Aggy is not our real rival” (despite spending more time talking about A&M than their own team)

    And that sums up your typical Longhorn fan, absolutely obsessed with telling the fans of a team the Longhorns don’t play that their team sucks and that the Longhorns don’t really care about them.

  134. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 11:05 AM

    Hey Studdmuffin, you finally got one right! Our defense did “stink” last year. With (4) freshmen starting and (6) more in the 2-deep, that’s expected. We also started (2) sophomores. If you think that has to do with player development, you haven’t been around football that long.

    Great coaches like Nick Saban hardly ever start freshmen. In 2013, Bama started zero freshmen on defense and zero sophomores on defense. In his 2-deep, Bama had zero true freshmen, (2) RS-freshmen and (7) sophomores. Saban develops his players but usually doesn’t start them as freshmen and sophomores. Our issue is that while Sherman recruited a great offense, he left the defensive cupboard bare. And just so you understand, all the talking I’ve tried to get through to you about recruiting great defensive players is what Sabin and tu have done to build great teams. The reality in our case is that we’ve had to recruit them and let them play before they were ready. In the future, that won’t be the case. So, your point on horrible player development does not make sense in view of what great programs do. And it doesn’t make sense when you consider 3 Star Claiborne was an all-SEC freshmen and 3 Star Mike Evans was drafted in NFL first round.

    So please don’t talk to me about player development at A&M. It simply shows that you are misinformed. The kids that are visiting A&M and seeing the coaches in action are raving about their coaching skills. Don’t take my word for it, read their words.

    If this was not so, why would A&M be attracting top O-lineman talent if BJ Anderson was not a top coach. The last two years, we attracted the (2) top QB’s in the country because Jake Spavital is one of the best in the biz. David Beatty is attracting top WR’s in our state and Louisiana (Speedy Noil) and Christian Kirk (AZ) is leaning our way. On defense, Terry Price has landed the top defensive linemen in the state the last (3) years. Terry Joseph is a much needed improvement and is attracting some of the top DB’s in Larry Pryor and Justin Dinning. If we get Sheffield,Boyd, Hill and/or Elam, it’s lights out for this DB class!

  135. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 11:11 AM

    Studdmuffin, you are right the 2nd time! However, I didn’t say that tu had fewer guys in the NFL! That’s because I look stuff up. You guys have only (1) more player in the NFL through the 2014 draft!

    So, your statement that, “And we still have more players in the NFL than you losers!” is correct. But it’s nowhere like you thought it was or for anyone who was not informed on the subject.

    Btw, I don’t have to call you a loser. I’m just pointing out the facts and let those who read these postings make their own judgment as to who the loser is!

  136. studdmuffins says: Jun 25, 2014 11:21 AM

    Here are all the real well documented facts:
    1. Texas is number 1 money making program in the country, Texas a&m is number 21 down from 16 because your revenues actually dropped
    2. Texas is the second most winningest program ever only behind Michigan with a .715 winning percentage while a&m is 23rd with a .601 winning percentage
    3. Texas has had more first round draft picks at 33 and 331 overall coming in ranked 9th. While aggies only have had 29 overall first round draft picks and a total of 265 ranking you at 20th.
    4. Texas has beat you 76-37- 5 including on your way out of the Big 12 in your last game ever on your home field 27-25. You can take any slice of time you want and say this proves my point. But your excuse of compulsory corp duty was proven inaccurate.
    5. Texas has 4 national titles, 32 conference championships and two Heisman winners and 53 consensus All Americans. You aggies on the other hand have only one real national championship, excluding the two fake one you put up on Kyle Field recently, only 18 conference championships, only 22 All Americans, but you finally did get your second Heisman winner.
    6. Texas is number 5 in football attendance while A&M is not even in the top ten. And yet you are expanding your stadium. Wonder why???
    7. Texas on the average is a top 10 recruiting school while A&M is not even in the top 20.

    A couple of good years in recruiting equal nothing when you are not developing your players. And if you keep trending down that will change quickly. You can talk all you want about looking forward, but you are already trending down in the SEC while Texas is on an upward swing. And crow all you want about recruiting, but in the end if the trend continues most will have defected by signing day. We at Texas do look forward because the future is bright for us. You aggies look forward because your past is not very good. It is astonishing that after one decent season and then one mediocre season where you said you would be in the national championship hunt that you actually think you have anything to brag about. Texas beats you statistically in every category and you aggies cannot stand it. Sure we are proud of our past, because unlike you we have something to be proud of. As far as the thumbs down go, well I made the mistake of commenting on an aggie story, which I very rarely do. The funny thing though, is I do comment a lot on Texas stories, and when I do I mostly see aggies there talking trash. And it is nasty at best. And that is why I have do not like a&m, they left but they can’t get over what Texas did to them and they never will. It really is an inferiority complex by any definition of the term. Aggies never got over Texas and never will. And no matter what you say, aggies were the one who left the Big 12 and ended the rivalry, not Texas. And the facts above explain a lot of the reasons they did it. I am done arguing as it is pointless and I have better things to do.

  137. studdmuffins says: Jun 25, 2014 11:30 AM

    Why would you when Texas beats you at everything. Look at the last comment I posted to Larry, that will pretty much explain everything and maybe actually educate you. Gag Em Aggies, LOL!!!

  138. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 12:19 PM

    Man studdmuffins! This is getting to be like middle school!! I challenged you to point out one thing i misquoted and your reply is, “I challenge you to name one thing I have made up.”

    My challenge was made to you as you have questioned my integrity many times. You failed to give me evidence. But i will accept yours as I, unlike you, have evidence:

    1) Your untruth: “Sumlin is nothing compared to Strong”. Truth: Sumlin has a better overall winning record then Strong. This inspite of the fact that Strong coached in American Athletic Conference versus Sumlin four year in Conf. USA and two years in the SEC.
    2) Your untruths: “Your a loser!” “You weren’t an executive with Xerox or own your own business!” “You didn’t attend UT Law School.” Truth: All that is true except the loser part.
    3) Your untruth: “The Aggies only won 5 games in the first 20 years after 1974”. Truth: We won 14 of those next 20 games.
    4) Your untruth: “You’ve had marginal success in recruiting.” Truth: 5th and 9th in recruiting the last two years is not marginal.
    5) Your untruth: Concerning my website, you said, “Just another used car salesman wannabe!!!” Truth: My website appears on physicians and compounding pharmacists websites.
    6) Misleading truth: tu in top 5 in attendance and A&M not in the top 10. Truth: Misleading as A&M finished 11th. However, the reason was that our stadium seats only 82.5k and Darrell Royal seats 100k. The truth is that tu attendance averaged 98k and A&M attendance averaged 87k.
    7) Your untruth: Claiming that A&M has not done anything in 20 years: Finished 10-2 in 1993, 10-0-1 in 1994, 9-3 in 1995, 11-3 in 1998, 9-4 in 2006 and 2010.

  139. agintn says: Jun 25, 2014 12:24 PM


    I flat called you out, and you still just want to talk about a “pathetic” team that’s “not your rival” and your record against church schools, small private schools, and high schools.

    You must have “little man” syndrome that you feel the need hang around and berate a lesser team.

    Again, your winning percentage means nothing, because it’s built on padding stats.

    Your 4 claimed national championships?

    Let’s look at the 3 prior to 1974:

    32 total wins 1 loss

    9 games against church schools
    4 games against small private academic schools
    5 games against A&M & the service academies during the war in Vietnam
    4 games against small schools that were barely colleges

    That means in 3 seasons, you won 10 real games to get those titles, and those 10 games aren’t above reproach either.

    The really funny part is that claimed 1970 NC where you lost the final game in your own backyard by 2 scores and still have the nerve to claim that you were the best.

    Yea, 2005 was great, but it shouldn’t be the anomaly that it is over the last 40 years. That’s right, 40 years with the pick of the litter of the talent rich state of Texas, and you boast 1 national championship.

    You’re Longhorns are so pathetic, and that is the reason you feel the need to hang out on a story about “little brother”, because you know deep down you don’t belong at the adult table either.

  140. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 12:39 PM

    There you go again studmuffin, living in the past and making up facts. You want to ignore that you guys ran the playing ground wasn’t even.

    As far as stating untruths: tu does not have the 2nd winnest program by W-L %. You guys are 7th! Even OU is ahead of you guys. Unlike you my facts are correct and i provide evidence:

    Your #6 claim as to attendance has already been addressed. And the answer to your question is that we have 18k fewer seats. A better question is why did you have only 98k attend in a 100k seat stadium? We had 87k attend in a 82.5k seat stadium!

    Reading your post makes it obvious that you are not reading mine. I have given you the respect of reading yours. You have been rude and misleading. Typical sip! You have been a waste of my time and very disappointing.

  141. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 1:03 PM

    Just in > “Predicting the Top 25 College Football Programs of the Next 10 Years”. A&M 6th best program, Baylor 10th, tu 12th!!!!

    More interesting FACTS: From 2009 through 2013 >
    Avg. final AP ranking: A&M 19th, tu 20th!!

    Avg. recruiting class ranking: A&M 17th, tu 8th!!

    Coaching stability: A&M > Pretty solid, tu > Too early to tell.

    Read it and weep!!!!!

  142. studdmuffins says: Jun 25, 2014 1:31 PM

    And there you go again totally ignoring the facts. Tried to tone it down with you a little after your last reply but I see that was useless. There is an old saying about beating a dead horse and you sure seem like one. Nothing I said was not a fact all you need to do is know your football history and look it up. I have assumed all along you can read and write but after this comment it seems that someone is reading to you and you are dictating your responses. I did mention the past because ours is a storied one while yours is extremely dubious at best. You keep bragging about how wonderful your school is and it has not accomplished anything. You have gone from a two loss to a four loss team in the SEC and that is trending down. While Texas still has a quality roster and even with all the injuries last year including at quarterback, made a run at the Big 12 title. The future looks much better for Texas than you aggies. You are just too stupid to admit it. All my supposed untruths are truth, i.e., I did not say 1974, I said 1965 after the corp became non compulsory. And do tell me how many national championship rings Kevin Sumlin has? You say this is getting like middle school when in fact you would be an embarrassment to anyone in those grades. You are obviously the delusional type who has to lie about his accomplishments and have the last word. So go ahead and have it. I am done. Like the dog vomit you are that I stepped in I am going to wipe you of the bottom of my shoe and flush you down the toilet where you belong. So keep deluding yourself about how wonderful you aggies are. You have nothing to hang your hat on so you just make things up to suite your needs. All you did by going to the SEC and running your mouths was to show the whole country what a joke you are when you used to be just Texas’ dirty little secret. Kind of like your most famous alumni Rick Perry did when he ran for president the first time. Or like he is doing now inserting his foot so deeply in his mouth, sounds just like you, that he will need surgery to remove it. Have fun next year, if your trend continues you will be lucky to be bowl eligible and if you do make it to one it will end up being the Massinengill Disposable Douche Bowl which could not be any more appropriate for you trash talking aggies, LOL. Do not want to keep you any long as it is lunch time and I am sure you have to get back to flipping burgers for the lunch rush and gear up to clean the toilets in the restrooms afterwards, LMFAO, Gag Em Aggies!!!

  143. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 6:12 PM

    Now that Studdmuffins (who would pick that handle?) is gone, I thought I’d share this article.

    What did many of the HS coaches think of Charlie’s debut at the State’s HS Coaches Clinic? …He bombed big time!! Not only did he bomb, he made some mad. He didn’t arrive early and left after his talk. Left the coaches thinking he wasn’t interested in them. Did not make a good impression. One coach even laughed at the end of his speech!

    The one guy we hoped tu would not sign besides Art Briles was James Franklin. Briles is one of the HS coaches own. They love him! And he’s tearing it up at Baylor. tu couldn’t tempt him much less Nick Sabin.

    That whole scenario shows the arrogance of tu. They thought that all they had to do was offer Sabin a boat load of dough and he’d come running. If they had a chance to land him, it all went away when he saw how they mishandled Mack Brown’s firing.

    What has puzzled some are two things: 1) Why are big name coaches turning down the premier coaching job in the nations? Mora, Sabin, or Briles.
    2) Why didn’t tu select James Franklin? Simply compare what he’s doing at Penn State recruiting wise to what Strong is doing? And Penn State is coming off a NCAA near-death sentence! 3) Why isn’t Charlie getting the bump that Mack Brown got when he took over the job and most other new coaches get in their 1st year at a big name program? 4) Was Strong up to the PR job that a tu HC job requires?

    After reading the above article, we have the answer to questions 3 and 4. Steve Patterson is probably still wondering about questions 1 and 2! For Steve’s sake let’s hope Strong coaches up to his reputation.

  144. studdmuffins says: Jun 25, 2014 6:33 PM

    Unfortunately still getting your comments. Never seen anyone lie as much as you. Go mop the floors now and clean the vomit up in the bathroom. Never seen such a pathetic lying loser as you I am out for good and you are out of your mind. Gag Em aggie losers, LKMFAO!!!

  145. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 8:48 PM

    Studdmuffins, just by showing up again, you proved my point. You are the biggest liar on this site!! You promised not to return. Just get your fat arrogant a$$ off this site and allow us to talk intelligently.

    You obviously cannot read and I doubt that you ever went to tu. If you could read, you would notice that I was quoting Travis Haney. Charlie was a bomb at the HS Coaches Clinic. So bad that he was laughed at.

    You guys are so low class that guys like Sabin, Mora or Briles want any part of your arrogant school. Unfortunately Strong bought into the “We are the flagship football program in the state of Texas! Your kids need to go to tu!” That is offensive and turned HS coaches off.

    Now, read Clay Travis article if you have the courage; which I doubt. You guys can’t face reality. Your egos are so small you need to belong to the U of Texas to build you up. Hey, look at us!!! We’re the U of Texas!! We’re the Best!! Look at me!! I’m the best!! Waahh!!! Waahh!!!

    Dare you to read Clay’s article:

    Your arrogance ruined your football program for the near future and I hope forever!!

  146. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 9:06 PM

    This article, “Five SEC players who should be household names by 2014’s end”, illustrates the power of the SEC. 2 of the 5 players mentioned grew up wanting to go to tu! But tu blew it! A’Shawn Robinson even committed to tu before switching to Bama.

  147. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 9:37 PM

    Good video of 3 of evaluations of three players recently committed to A&M. Quote: Hottest (recruiting) team in the country.

  148. Larry Heitman says: Jun 25, 2014 10:09 PM

    Good evaluation from Rivals on 5 top recruits that A&M and tu are competing for.

    Jefferson and Sheffield are 5 Stars. Composite has Jefferson ranked as the #1 OLB and 9th overall in the country. Sheffield is ranked as the #3 CB and #10th overall.

    Boyd, Hill and Elam are all 4 Stars. Boyd ranked 13th CB and 124th overall. Hill ranked as 20th CB and 177th overall. And Elam is ranked 26th CB and 279th overall.

    A&M is 1 1 – 2 in head to head competition with tu in regards to recruiting. We’d love to have all 5 of these guys. And with the momentum, our chances look good to get 4 out of 5.

  149. Larry Heitman says: Jun 26, 2014 11:40 AM

    “Kevin Sumlin has leveraged the popularity of Johnny Manziel and the Aggies’ success in the SEC to the fullest, all the while putting their in-state counterparts in the rear view mirror on the recruiting trail. All but two of the 17 commitments are Texans in this strong class that is currently rated no. 2 by and no. 3 by”

    As Clay Travis said, this recruiting trend is generational! And everybody except for “Studdmuffins” knows that great players leads to Championships!!

  150. 8to80texansblog says: Jun 26, 2014 6:34 PM

    I haven’t read all the posts but I see a trend in someone putting up a valid point and @studmuffins calling it an excuse and then saying the Aggies are pathetic….

    This debate always gets out of hand but I still love it every time. I really wish we could still play every year.

  151. studdmuffins says: Jun 26, 2014 6:46 PM

    Wish we could still play every year too. That would make everything pretty cut and dried. Just ridiculous though as a Longhorn listening to all this about running the state when you aggies have not really accomplished anything except having a couple of good recruiting classes. And generally, those who brag on themselves the way that this article talks about you doing, are only trying to prove something to themselves that deep down they know is not true.

  152. Larry Heitman says: Jun 26, 2014 7:14 PM

    Studdmuffins, you’re not at the pay grade to read our minds! We are just excited to see things going our way for a change. Yes, I know it is arrogant to say that #WRTS and as a Longhorn fan it must be maddening. But give us a chance to enjoy this success for a while. You have to admit that you guys have dug your spurs into your “little brother” for a long time.

    What I’m about to share with you are pearls! So, please don’t be a “swine” as the Good Book says. I’m trusting you. What has happened with moving to the SEC and hiring Coach Sumlin was not an accident or lucky decision.

    President Loftin had what he called “A Hundred Year Plan”. Pretty lofty but it started with what he called “Athletics being the front porch to a university”. He knew that a highly successful football program brings attention to the other parts of the institution.

    Next, he had the leadership to get our regents to buy in. The success that we would have moving to the SEC was not as obvious to some as it was to others. After all, most people thought we would fail horribly. But it took courage, vision and leadership.

    The timing of the move to the SEC, the hiring of Coach Sumlin, JFF and the downturn you guys experienced were a perfect formula for A&M to turn the tide in recruiting. I know its hard to admit right now that landing 4 and 5 star recruits can lead to better teams. But it’s true. You and I will have to wait to see how well these guys do as a team. With that said, give until 2015 and 2016. We will see what we will see.

    And best of luck to you guys!

  153. Larry Heitman says: Jun 26, 2014 7:21 PM

    Hey Studdmuffins, you are absolutely right when you said that “it would make things pretty cut and dried.” Can you put in a good word with Steve Patterson about scheduling us in? We’re already agreed to meet.

    Let’s settle it on the football field!

  154. studdmuffins says: Jun 26, 2014 7:25 PM

    Wow, you just must have been sitting in front of your computer waiting for me. How sad a truly pathetic you are. Love the way you have to comment when I am replying to someone else. Guess like anyone who has a five year old mentality like your you feel the need to try vainly to be the center of attention. And I hate to insult five year olds that way, LOL. And nice to see you showing your aggie class, to bad it is so low. Guess you just have to talk trash because you know you cannot do anything when you are dealing with your betters. And as far as pay grade goes it is not hard to be above yours or any other aggies since most are employed in the fast food industry like you. Man you must just sit in front of your computer all day long waiting to make comments and looking for me. So funny that I got under your skin this way. Guess you, like all aggies, simply cannot handle the truth and your inferiority just keeps coming out. Time for you to ask for a raise to $10 an hour so you can move out of your mother’s basement and get a life. Because obviously you do not have one now. Time to wipe you off again and flush you, LMFAO, LOSER, Gag Em Again Aggies

  155. Larry Heitman says: Jun 26, 2014 8:09 PM

    Studdmuffins, I guess the Bible is right when it says don’t cast pearls before swine. I gave you the respect of a mature human being sharing inside info on why Texas recruiting has changed so quickly.

    I even left room that our team might not be as great as we would expect. And I wished you luck. I don’t know what your problem is and I won’t try to diagnose you. But i can say with all assuredness that you are one rude, abusive, immature, inconsiderate, ignorant mad dog moron whose mind is stuck somewhere else other than reality.

    I tried to end this string peacefully and treat you with respect. But mad dogs always bite the hand of kindness. I hope that find redemption in this life. You are one very unhappy person.

  156. Larry Heitman says: Jun 26, 2014 8:17 PM

    Btw, I’m not like you lurking around the computer. I use my computer to make a living and get update emails, like you, when someone updates the string. I guess you forgot you used that one on me.

    I was hoping that you were gone and that someone would like to dialogue intelligently. I hope that you know that you represent your university when you post comments. After a while, people begin to think that all horns are like you; abusive, unintelligent and a crack pot. If you doubt my word, check out some of the comments above about your character and behavior.

    Grow up. And oh yeah. This was my first time to post to a string. It has been a total waste of my time!

  157. pushingiron says: Jun 27, 2014 11:12 AM

    I like all the references about finishing 4th in the SEC West, funny how they don’t also include that was a 5th place ranking in the country. A mid place finish in a SEC division is more prestigious than a top finish in a lot of conferences. The SEC is a tough place to play, not a conference where you have a bunch of weak teams and one or two tough ones. The complete and utter destruction of OU by A&M in the Cotton Bowl was an embarrassment to the Big 12 -2-2+2. Nobody can doubt the arrogance of Texas weakened the Big 12, replacing Nebraska, Colorado, TAMU, and Missouri with WV and TCU is laughable. To the poster above that said that Texas could easily gain entrance to the SEC think again, A&M and others would veto that move.

    The past two years have been very solid, the recruiting is building a base that we hope paves the way to greatness. Sumlin, JFF, and most importantly the move to the SEC has given a giant boost to TAMU

    I miss the rivalry, I have a brother, sister, and brother-in-law that are all Texas grads. My oldest daughter is dating a Texas grad, and they are all outstanding A+ character people. It is funny how the most vile things that are said don’t come from people that actually attended the university in question, usually just “t-shirt fans”. I love to give Texas fans a hard time, but the record between the two schools in the current time when most of us were alive is very close. I have no hatred for the school, its students or fans, as such I won’t say vile or ridiculous things, but I still have a desire to beat them in everything.

  158. studdmuffins says: Jun 27, 2014 11:18 AM

    And I love the fact that you fail to mention in your most recent year you finished tied for 6th with Vandy and barely in the top 25. The whole point here is you have had a couple of good recruiting classes, but compared to top tier programs you have accomplished, NOTHING!!! And your constant bragging with things lie we own the state hash tag only shows that you are running your mouths trying to compensate for feeling of inferiority by saying things that not even you aggies really believe is true.

  159. 8to80texansblog says: Jun 27, 2014 12:59 PM

    studdmuffins says:
    Jun 27, 2014 11:18 AM

    And I love the fact that you fail to mention in your most recent year you finished tied for 6th with Vandy and barely in the top 25

    Yeah I’m looking here at the AP and Coaches Polls from last year, and I don’t see Texas’ ranking…. Maybe you can help me find it…. I do see A&M in both polls (18,18) and since you mention Vandy, I do see them in both polls as well (24,23).

    I just don’t see Texas…. I must be looking at the wrong one… I guess I’ll just have to look harder…. I’ll have to get back to you.

    Btw… Vandy beat UGA and UF last year and lost to Ole Miss on the last play of the game. (How’d the Horn’s do against Ole Miss?) And A&M wasn’t tied with Vandy, same record but we obliterated them head to head. And just FYI, if you’re going to throw out being tied with Vandy as an insult, maybe check Texas’ record last year compared to Vandy’s and get back to me.

  160. studdmuffins says: Jun 27, 2014 3:06 PM

    Let me explain something since you aggies do not seem to understand. First, finishing 6th in the SEC is no prize and you are already trending down from last year. Second, Texas was out of the polls last year, so what? In all your time in the Big 12 you were barely a .500 team, finished 1-9 in bowls when you were even eligible and only finished in the top 25 four times. Now you finish 4th and then 6th losing twice as many games this year as last year. Even funnier with identical regular season records you aggies gave your coach a raise and an extension like he actually did something while in Austin the coach gets forced out because it is just not good enough. So guess the standard down in college station are a lot lower than Austin. So keep doing what you do, talk about owning the state and keep saying how wonderful you are. Aggies are the only ones drinking that Kool Aide. You have accomplished nothing. No national championships in over 75 years ,and I do not include those two fake ones you put up on Kyle Toilet wall a couple of years ago to pad your resume when you left for the SEC, no conference championships in over fifteen, and only ranked half the time at the end of the season in the last 25 years. So keep it up, all you are doing is showing what a joke you are , and a bad one at that. If the trend continues you will be a six loss team this season and if you are lucky enough to be bowl eligible will end up in the Massengall Disposable Douche Bowl, which is exactly where you will belong!!!

  161. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 27, 2014 8:43 PM

    I come back from the Canadian Rockies to this?

    Texas A&M and Missouri were welcome as full members to the SEC and they have more than paid for their admission from day one. Their move gave the SEC major access to the Texas TV markets and even more important, invaluable access to Texas High School coaches for all of the SEC programs.

    Texas is rightly paranoid about their future simply because the only conference that makes economic sense for them is the PAC-12. The B1G, the SEC, and the ACC have told Texas they are not welcome and Texas knows they do not have the votes in any of those conferences. A poster opined that Texas approached the SEC in 2011 to secure membership instead of A&M. That is a canard. Texas approached the SEC in 1986 to join and even then, interest was luke warm at best. The Texas Legislature helped by putting the kabosh on any move by either A&M or Texas.

    Texas being the Norma Desmond that they are gave the SEC the necessary impetus
    with Texas A&M and Missouri additions that Madison Avenue will help
    launch the SEC Network in August, 2014. That means a mere $22 million per school
    per year starting THIS year. Actuarial evaluations project $40 million per school per year as early as 2019.

    Yes, the Big 12 paid a record $23 million for eight schools (WV and TCU are provincial members receiving $14 million) in 2014. Yet when they become full members, the pay out will reduce to a little over $21 million per school. $21 million
    versus $40 million, do the math.

    Texas realizes it is on borrowed time. They and OU are the big dogs in a regional conference with very limited markets and virtually no social media exposure on the East or West Coasts. Facts backing the demise of the Big 12

    (1.) The LHN inhibits the Big 12 because the B1G, the PAC-12, the SEC and even the ACC have NATIONAL exposure with CONFERENCE networks. The ACC looks to be up and running with ESPN reacquiring Raycom for the basis of the ACC network.
    The Big 12? Everything is subordinated through the LHN and conference office approval.,

    (2.) Recruiting. All you have to review is the individual school results on national
    signing day and you see that the Big 12 barely got by the MWC in conference
    standings. Count the number of 5 star football players the Big 12 signed. Then look at the SEC, the B1G, the PAC-12 and yes the ACC. Kids want to play in meaningful games on national TV on a weekly basis. The SEC provides that. A&M was 6th in a 14 team conference, big whoop. Alabama was third, great. A&M and Missouri’s move to the SEC was great for both schools and the SEC. We can thank the University of Texas for that…..

    (3.) Ponder why OU is bringing their athletic facilities to SEC standards? It’s not
    because ISU and Kansas travel with tens of thousands of fans. OU knows that WHEN
    Texas does what it is does in protecting their own interests (SEE the old SWC, the rebuffed entreaties to the B1G, the PAC-12 and the ACC, you’ll see their pattern). OU knows that the SEC would want both OU and OSU as the 15th and 16th members , a super conference.

    In the words of the Wayan Brothers, “Mo’ money!,Mo’ money! Mo’ Money!”

    That $40 million conservatively becomes $50 million a year per SEC school. The Big 12 won’t be able to compete in a REGIONAL conference with NO conference network.

    The Big 12 is on borrowed time. The SEC has the best University from Texas with
    none of the paranoid drams queen antics.


  162. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 27, 2014 10:50 PM


    Serious question, what happens to Texas, Inc should Coach Strong be more like John Mackovic or David McWilliams? You think alums will still attend fundraisers when they know that the Big 12 is a substandard conference?

    Sad truth is that Deloss designed the Big 12 to be University of Texas centric. That is why Nebraska,Colorado, Texas A&M and Missouri left. Texas is and always will be for Texas first.

    That is why the B1G said no to Texas mere days after losing to Alabama in the National Championship football game. B1G Presidents and Chancellors knew that all that Texas wanted was to be included in federal research grants that had been given to the B1G and saw Texas as an interloper, wanting a full share of $3 billion per year for ten years that the B1G nurtured and developed for well over a decade. Every State in the B1G conference spent tens of millions of state tax dollars to develop the necessary university infrastructure AND Texas came in and said “We’re Texas!” and we want to join the B1G. The B1G said no.

    Fast forward to 2011 when Texas played UCLA in LA. Texas won the game and lost a conference. University of Texas President, Bill Powers attended the game with the UCLA Chancellor and the Commissioner of the PAC-12. Powers went to gauge interest
    in Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and OSU moving to the PAC-12. The PAC -12 is AAU
    required territory. They have the University of Arizona and ASU as non AAU schools.
    The PAC-12 wanted OU, UT, A&M and Missouri. Powers was told in plain English that
    OSU was not PAC-12 material with poor academics, same for Texas Tech. The real
    deal killer was the advent of the LHN. The PAC-12 Commissioner told President Powers that Texas would have to have the LHN under conference guidelines and protocols,period. No network and Texas is welcome. Keep the LHN and the answer is “No!” Texas said they would be back in touch since the LHN was Deloss Dodds
    purview, not the University of Texas. Texas still hasn’t gotten back in touch with
    PAC-12 officials since the PAC-12 rebuffed Texas specifically on the LHN.

    Last fall, Texas approached the ACC to move to that Conference. Three results happened.

    (1.) Jack Swarbrick of Notre Dame told ACC officials, Texas comes, we don’t.
    (2.) FSU and Clemson did not want Texas, period.
    (a.) Wake,Duke, both North Carolina universities, Georgia Tech did not Texas or any
    additional expansion, period.
    (b.) The LHN would have to come under ACC guidelines and protocols.
    (3.) Rebuffed by the ACC, Texas tried to recruit Clemson and FSU to join the Big 12.
    (a.) Clemson laughed at Texas.
    (b.) FSU Administrators and Professors threatened the FSU President with his job
    when he announced an intention to explore moving to the Big 12. FSU
    Administrators and Professors consider the Big 12 to be academically “inferior”.
    (c.) FSU and Clemson wanted no part of assigning their TV rights to the Big 12 as
    long as the LHN existed.
    (4.) Actions in #3 pissed off the entire conference to evening thinking of inviting
    Texas. Connecticut has a better chance than Texas ever will.

    Texas is left with the Big 12 unless they change their ways. Thank Deloss for that.


  163. studdmuffins says: Jun 28, 2014 1:09 AM

    Wow, that was a long rant and full of so many lies it was pathetic. First say whatever you want, the Big 12 made more more money per school this year than any other conference. Second, we ended up stronger with the two bottom feeders of Mizzou and you aggies going to the SEC. And do not fool yourselves, the only reason they wanted you was that they thought they were getting a couple of patsies for their league. And all you proved was that a couple of perennial bottom feeders from the Big 12 could handle what turned out to be a not so elite conference
    And all those thing you said about Texas going to the ACC were complete fabrications that could only come from the deluded mind of any aggie. The bottom line is this, you can sit here and write your novel, which is mostly fiction by the way, but the truth is that the Big 12 is better off, stronger and more profitable with two better teams since you left. And again, you can hash tag that you own the state and claim whatever you want. But the bottom line is other than a couple of good recruiting classes you have not accomplished anything. If your trend continues you will be a six loss team this season and you have not won a national championship in over 75 years or even a conference championship in this millennium. Put that in your crack pope and smoke it and then write me another one of those fictional tirades again, LMFAO!!!

  164. Larry Heitman says: Jun 28, 2014 12:52 PM

    amosalonzostag, you are right on in your FACTS! The problem is that you are talking over studdmuffins head!! This guy is a wannabe longhorn. He doesn’t have the intelligence to get into tu or A&M.

    There have been a number of us who have dumped a lot of facts on him and he can’t accept him.

    All the evidence and every sports analysts says A&M’s stock is up and tu’s is down. The bottom line is that in 2 or 3 years, after both coaches have had a chance to play the guys they recruited, we’ll see where each program is headed.

    I’m betting on the Ags!!

  165. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 28, 2014 1:37 PM


    Nope, proud Bama grad, 1967.

    I live in the world of reality, not the paranoid sphere
    you inhabit.

    As to the ACC, why not actually read more rather than try to pretend you are intelligent?–17339110

    Speaking of National Championships, has Texas even recovered from the last time Alabama played Texas in the National Championship game? Short answer for your simple mind, NO!

    4 Football Championships?


    15 for the Tide

    Come back when you have big boy pants.

    Face it, the SEC has the best University from Texas and it galls you that BOTH A&M and Missouri are succeeding while Texas still plays Texas Tech, Iowa State and Kansas.

    Even the ACC has passed the Big 12.

    Laugh all you want, the rest of the nation just shakes it collective heads and snickers about
    how far Texas has fallen in such a short period of time, yet their supporter say “But, We’re
    Texas!” Money can’t buy class.

    Enjoy your new and improved Big 8.


  166. Larry Heitman says: Jun 28, 2014 2:27 PM

    amosalonzostagg, this is to let you know that the pearls of insight that you shared were not written in vain!

    I just reread your posts to my wife. We want to give you kudos on your knowledge of the Big12 and the aforementioned history with other conferences. And I very much appreciate your written communication skills.

  167. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 28, 2014 3:50 PM

    Mr Heitman,

    I deeply appreciate your kind remarks.

    I’d be lying if I said I didn’t know about A&M, Truth is, I attended the 1968 Cotton Bowl game from the sidelines and saw the special relationship between Bear and Gene Stallings. Yeah, we lost to A&M, but little did I know just how special the A&M Alabama relationship would become.

    Approaching a half century of working financial situations with major Universities and Conferences across the county on a daily basis in both their Athletic programs and University Administrations, you obtain front line insights and information from knowledgable, educated people you have come to know and trust from decades working together.

    The postings I have opined on come first hand and is public knowledge.

    The advent of modern college sports dates to 1980 when a fledgling Entertainment and Sports Programming Network was born. Since then, college sports has never been the same.

    I knew Deloss when he was a track coach with Kansas State.

    Deloss is still a visonary. What he accomplished in creating Texas, Inc. is nothing short of
    master pioneering. The trouble is, Deloss is retired in a consulting role to AD Patterson.
    Patterson is not Deloss. Replacing a legend is impossible. Ask any coach who replaced a
    Wooden, a John McKay, A Darrell Royal, A Bo, A Woody, a Bear, a Bobby Bowden, a JoePa.

    You have an encore problem. Texas faced it with DKR. Alabama faced it with Bear.
    We’ll face it again with Saban (after he passes Bear in National Championships 😉 ).

    Point is, it is easier to build, harder to maintain, impossible to recreate.

    I pray for people like Studmuffin simply because they are ignorant, not stupid or dumb,
    simply ignorant.

    Strong faces an uphill battle because the college landscape is far from stable. Why? because the beast known as 24/7/365 sports social media. The next stage for development is the
    advent of Super Conferences, 16 teams with 2 eight team divisions. Again, Why?

    A cool one Billion dollars initially for college football. The premise taking each division winner will be part of an Elite Eight ( forgive me for borrowing a NCAA Basketball reference). The winner of the Conference championship will be seeded 1-4, the “loser” (runner up will be seeded 5-8). Not a major conference? No problem, schools will be selected to play in from mid majors, independents and be seeded 9-16.

    The goal? to have a college playoff culminating in a true National Championship to coincide with Super Bowl Weekend, the idea of having the college national championship the Saturday night BEFORE the Super Bowl. There are billions upon billions that are going to be THROWN at the NCAA to broadcast the Football Playoff ala March Madness.

    The Big 12 doesn’t have the TV households nor a conference network. This puts them at a distinct disadvantage when you consider that the B1G, the PAC-12, the SEC, and the ACC
    will have their own networks. The ACC is working with the ACC to develop the Raycom
    network (ESPN has to re acquire Raycom, which it sold). The ACC is also one team away from being a super conference. B1G and SEC are two teams away, PAC-12 is four teams away, and the Big 12 is SIX teams away. There are NOT six quality, big time programs available to the Big 12. That is nine slots that can be filled with the likes of Connecticut, WVU, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, OU, Texas, OSU, and BYU.

    This is why the Big 12 is expendable. Texas will survive, Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU could be major casualties.

    That is why I end my posts with the statement, “Enjoy college sports today because these are
    the good old days.”



  168. studdmuffins says: Jun 28, 2014 3:55 PM

    Nothing you have said even comes close to reality, only your delusional vision of the things you want and do not have. So you are a supposed bama grad. How does it feel to be from the 4th most miserable state and 7th dumbest state. and you can look that up those are fats. Just like the fact that you claim 15 national titles, the majority of them no other self respecting school anywhere would claim. Below is an example of one of the many fairy tale national championships that you claim. Again, unlike you making things up as you go all the above statements are true and verifiable, Roll over tide, LOSER, LMFAO!!!

    The 1941 national championship is a fairy tale. Alabama (9-2) had lost to Mississippi State (SEC champs) and Vanderbilt. The Tide finished ranked 20th in the Associate Press Poll, behind four SEC teams.

    Minnesota (8-0) swamped Duke (9-0) – now coached by Wallace Wade – in the final poll voting with 84.5 to 9.5 first-place votes. (1941 AP Poll) Minnesota swept the consensus picks (AP, CFRA, HAF, NCF). How can you be a national champion when you do not win your conference, were ranked 20th and had two more losses than the consensus champion?

    1941 was the last year anyone claimed a championship who did not win the AP or Coaches Poll.

  169. Larry Heitman says: Jun 28, 2014 4:32 PM

    I am not surprised that you are a BAMA graduate. Your gracious manner is testament to the ole south and good upbringing. And your patience is a testament to the confidence gained from experience and from being a BAMA grad.

    Aggies all over the world have read about the great sportsmanship of BAMA fans. One story, and there are many, that I will recite was an A&M family who went to a restaurant after the 2012 game. It just so happened to be a favorite of BAMA fans. To the great surprise of the A&M family, the entire assemblage of BAMA loyal rose to their feet to congratulate A&M on its victory! It’s enough to bring tears to an ole Ag’s eyes. You see, when UT outscored A&M, they would always sing “Poor Aggies”; worst sportsmanship that I have every experienced.

    I went to A&M from 1963 to 1967 and I attended the 1968 Cotton Bowl also. As you remember, it was a horribly cold day. While we had won our last six games in what had become a “miracle” year for us, we did not expect to outscore a great Alabama (8-1-1) team led by the legendary Bear Bryant and QB’d by the one and only Kenny “The Snake” Stabler. And the truth be told, if your All American WR, Dennis Homan, hadn’t made an unusual drop, BAMA would have won the game.

    I did see the Bear pick up Gene Stallings after the game. What a great man the Bear was. He was truly happy for Gene. The picture of the Gene being hoisted by Bear is iconic.

    I want to thank you on behalf of hundreds of thousands of Aggies for welcoming us to the SEC. We feel like we have found a home. And we look forward to competing with you guys on the field and not on the internet.

    I also pray for studdmuffins. I sincerely mean this and it’s not meant as a “shot”. A lot of these fellows have their identity wrapped up in a winning program. And when things go very wrong for them as has occurred in the past several years, it is very hard on them.

  170. jedibob5 says: Jun 28, 2014 4:44 PM

    Let’s see how A&M does without Johnny Manziel. Then we can really tell how good they are.

  171. studdmuffins says: Jun 28, 2014 4:52 PM

    And I pray for you to Larry. It is very sad that you project these things that are in reality about you to me. I am sure eventually you will hit bottom and get the help you so desperately need. I will say a prayer for you.

  172. Larry Heitman says: Jun 28, 2014 5:05 PM

    Johnny was a once in a generation player. He will certainly be missed!

    However, we are not concerned with our offense. Kenny Hill was the Texas Gatorade Player of the Year in 2012 and let South Lake Carroll to a State Championship. In coming freshman, Kyle Allen, was the #1 Pro-style QB in the country. Next year, Kyler Murray, the #1 Dual QB will show up. He was the Texas Gatorade Player of the year as a junior. He’s led his team to (2) undefeated season and naturally (2) State Championships in the largest school classification.

    We are concerned, however, with our defense. Unless players rise to the occasion, our defense in 2014 will probably grade out between 50th and 60th.

  173. Larry Heitman says: Jun 28, 2014 5:07 PM

    Hey Studdmuffins, I sincerely appreciate your prayer. And I sincerely wish you and the Longhorns the best.

  174. Larry Heitman says: Jun 28, 2014 6:42 PM

    amosalonzastagg, I should have asked. Did you play in the 1968 Cotton Bowl or observe from the sideline?

    I’ll leave you this quote from your “handle” namesake. “Winning isn’t worthwhile unless one has something finer and nobler behind it.”

  175. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 28, 2014 7:08 PM


    I became involved with Gene Stallings through a common cause, special needs children. I was behind the camera man in Dallas that day in the Cotton Bowl and the heart felt talk Bear had briefly with Gene was what really struck me as unique, a bond why beyond the football field.

    You talk of esprit de corp, a Junction reunion the night before the A&M Alabama football game was held at Bear’s museum. Both A&M and Alabama gave great stories about Bear and to a person, each player wished they could talk with him just one more time.

    That is one of the reasons I’m glad Texas A&M is a member of the SEC. Each time I have been to A&M, I have been treated with respect and manners. I have traveled to many schools on business and each one is unique. St John’s is in Queens, NY. They may be brusque in nature and a little impatient, but they will give you the shirt off their back.

    Wisconsin is a mellow laid back Midwest attitude and have long memories. They to will
    put you up in a snow storm and make sure that you are well taken care of. DO NOT even think you can hang with Badger fans in adult beverages in ANY capacity. Any school that has the Budweiser song as part of any institution function is not to the trifled with.

    The reason I state this is that I could regal the blog with a myriad of stories on many fine schools. Every Texas school that I have visited make you very comfortable in a very short period of time from the onset. It must be the Texas demeanor. When the light of my life passed several years ago, Texas A&M University had a school representative attend the services with the funeral home, church and grave side service and made a point to tell me that if I needed anything to contact the representative.

    Needless to say, that duly impressed me in this high tech, highly impersonal, speed of text world.

    Texas A&M is a great addition to the SEC.


  176. amosalanzostagg says: Jun 28, 2014 7:13 PM


    Bear would say that all the time.


  177. Larry Heitman says: Jun 28, 2014 8:19 PM

    I’m glad that A&M honored you and your wife’s memory. You must have a special tie to the university other than your relationship with Gene.

    Btw, I’m pleased that Gene won a National Championship at BAMA! The deck was stacked against him at A&M. The four years I was there, he had only two guys over 200 lbs. At that time UT got the majority of talent.

    After his last game with us, I had the distinct pleasure of thanking him for not only what he had done on the field but off.

    amosalonzostagg, I want you to know if you are ever in Houston, you have a place to stay. So, look us up. Click on my name and it will take you to my blog. You can contact me through the comment section. You might enjoy the blog. It affects everyone. If you do check it out, start with 1/2/2014. It’s a book in a blog.

  178. Larry Heitman says: Jun 29, 2014 11:26 AM

    amosalongzostagg, you might find this interesting. I ran across a letter from David Sandhop concerning an appeal for A&M to join the SEC. David owned and operated Aggie Websider for many years.

    His letter concerned the misguided thinking by A&M trustees and administration to take the $20 million in Big 12 “bird in the hand” annual revenues instead of joining the SEC. (The SEC package was only $17m at the time.) Contrary to leadership’s thinking, fan polls showed a 90% or greater support for joining the best conference in the country. It seems like a no-brainer today. But A&M’s leadership almost voted to stay with the Big 12. David’s argument was, what is more important; satisfying the networks or the fans who gave far more money to the university in ticket sales and donations. He passionately argued that it was the university that had relied upon former students to build A&M into “a formidable national university. Now it’s time for the university leaders to trust its former students once again to insure that this bold move to the SEC will be a resounding success and that the financial and cultural benefits from this move will be realized for decades to come.”

    In addition to passionately urging that the fans opinions be heard, David made a business case for why it would be more profitable to move to the SEC. I won’t go into all of his calculations. But he argued that fan goodwill and donations would more than make up for $3m more in Big 12 revenue. Whether his personal appeal to A&M’s leaders was heard or not, they thankfully finally got the message. His predictions on revenue increases to Texas A&M were grossly underestimated. The year that A&M joined the SEC, donations alone increased by more than $340 million over the former record year for giving.

    And attendance grew by 5,000 per home game! Btw, the 5k increase was 5k more than the Kyle Field seated. This increase in attendance actually began in 2011 as fans positioned themselves in anticipation of the first SEC season! And now with the creation of the SECN, revenues will far exceed those doled out by the Big12. (2013 seating increased over 2012.)

    Furthermore, this does not include the increases in enrollment, grants, research $, etc. for future years. As an example of this, enrollment alone has grown by 3,000 students in A&M’s first year in the SEC!

    President Loftin who helped to engineer this move saw this decision as historical! He called “athletics the front porch to the university” when he discussed Texas A&M’s 100 year plan. Looks like he and David were right in that this decision would pay back exponentially!

    In summary, joining the SEC was the right decision not just for our athletic program but for benefiting Texas A&M scholastically. In fact, it was monumental! I’m grateful that A&M was the first Texas University to make this decision for all the reasons above but also for the hospitality that we have received since joining this great Conference!

    Hop’s full letter:

  179. Larry Heitman says: Jun 29, 2014 3:31 PM

    amosalonzostagg, here is another interesting article written by Billy Liucci,, dated July 11, 2011. Since you have an interest in the inner workings of major conferences, this might add to your knowledge base as to what A&M’s thinking was in 2011.

  180. 8to80texansblog says: Jun 30, 2014 3:38 PM

    I don’t know why you guys attempt to “debate” someone on the level of @studdmuffins….

    It’s not a debate or a discussion… it’s you providing facts and analysis, and him calling you a loser…. It’s like trying to debate a two year old. You explain your facts and opinions and then they tell you they’ve pooped….

    Let him bury his head in the sand and ignore what’s going on around him so that he can revel in Texas’ past accomplishments.

    We’ll wave as we pass him by.

  181. Larry Heitman says: Jul 1, 2014 7:31 AM

    James Butler Bonham, the University of South Carolina-educated hero of the Alamo, will adorn a trophy that could be exchanged by the Gamecocks and Texas A&M starting this fall.

    James Bonham sacrificed his life for the freedom of Texas. This significant tie between these two great universities enhances and lifts the spirit of competition to a higher level.

    Since joining the SEC, we have found the level of competition on the field to be more fierce on the field of play than in the Big12. But to our surprise and great pleasure we have found our competitors to be of greater character off the field than previous.

  182. studdmuffins says: Jul 1, 2014 2:14 PM

    Had to make a comment about your last post. Fortunately or unfortunately I am still subscribed to this feed, which will be changing shortly, so I am still getting your comments. Usually I just delete them without looking but this one I decided to read. I know that my tone with you has been disrespectful at best as has yours to me, and I actually do not usually troll aggie stories, but this one to me was so funny and absurd that a response had to be given. My comment to you is this, I know why aggies treat Texas the way they do, and that is jealousy. And I know why Texas treats the aggies the way we do, you are like a little brother with a big mouth who when on the occasion that you do happen to accomplish something have to run your mouths about it incessantly. Even though the exchanging of trophies between a&m and S Carolina does sound like a great idea, the slap you throw at the Big 12 is so patently absurd it defies any type of credibility. Do you remember your time in the Big 12 and how poorly you did most of it? Barely a .500 team, 1-9 in bowls and only finished in the top 25 at the end of the season six times. Or even go back to the old SWC day, you only won 53% of your games there, had only 15 conference championships in 82 years and in over 100 years of play you only finished in the top 25 twenty-four times. And now you talk about the level of competition being fiercer in the SEC when your accomplishments in the Big 12 were less than stellar? The only thing you proved by moving to the SEC was you finally caught a little bit of a break with Johnny Manziel and that a very mediocre team from the Big 12 could thrive in the SEC only proving that they are not so elite as they seem to think they are. And finally, when you talk about your new conference having better character you only prove two things. First that you have the feeling of a jilted lover who really left because of hurt feeling. And second when you say something like that all it proves is that you are the one with questionable character and very little class to go along with it. Have a nice day as I am done, there is no point in arguing with you anymore as you are not a rational human being who someone can have an intelligent conversation with. I will say a prayer for you, but I would imagine in the fall when without Johnny Manziel around, your second year of lofty expectations will come crashing to the ground and that a lot of your irrational ideas about your football team will finally be seen by you in the harsh light of day.

  183. studdmuffins says: Jul 6, 2014 6:42 PM

    Hey Larry, one last thing, since you referenced the Angelo football clinic in one of your comedy posts. why don’t you read the article in the link below to here what really happened and not the fiction Travis Haney made up or that you aggies believe in and feed on!!!

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