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Kevin Sumlin issues challenge to Bob Stoops

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Oklahoma head coach Bob Stoops recently took a shot at a former rival, the Texas A&M Aggies, and their soft non-conference schedule during an interview with ESPN. Texas A&M coach Kevin Sumlin didn’t back down from the challenge when asked about Stoops’ comments.

“Coach Stoops has the right to say whatever he wants, but if he wants to play us again we’ll take him up on that,” Sumlin told

It was the perfect response from Sumlin. Not only does he avoid going tit-for-tat with Stoops, but it’s a potential opportunity to strengthen the Aggies’ schedule in the future and rekindle a playing relationship against Texas A&M’s former conference, the Big 12.

The reality is Stoops was correct in his assessment. Texas A&M doesn’t play a bunch of “toughies.”

Since Sumlin took over the program, the Aggies’ non-conference schedule has included the Louisiana Tech Bulldogs, SMU Mustangs, South Carolina State Bulldogs, Sam Houston State BearKats, Rice Owls, UTEP Miners, Lamar Cardinal and ULM Warhawks.

Oklahoma, meanwhile, has scheduled the Notre Dame Fighting Irish (twice) and the Tennessee Volunteers over the same period.

The blame can’t be laid at Sumlin’s feet. Schedules are made years in advance. Even so, the programs Texas A&M scheduled were never among the country’s best. But that’s set to change in the coming years when Texas A&M plays the Arizona State Sun Devils (2015) and the UCLA Bruins (2016).

And there is still room to add the Sooners to those schedules.

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45 Responses to “Kevin Sumlin issues challenge to Bob Stoops”
  1. greenwave81 says: Jul 26, 2014 6:54 PM

    Can’t blame Sumlin for playing OOC cupcakes. Look at who the heck the play in conference: South Carolina, Auburn, ‘Bama, Ole Miss, LSU. Its like murderers row. Add to the mix Mizzou which was very good last year. And they play Arky and Miss St which are teams that have their moments and can be very strong some years — especially at home. W

  2. drummerhoff says: Jul 26, 2014 7:00 PM

    “We’re not tied to Texas”. Translation: OU wants to play the #1 school in Texas because “the world changes” and A&M surpassed UT.

  3. floridacock says: Jul 26, 2014 7:06 PM

    Stoops is a buffoon to anyone outside of OK. A&M’s conference schedule is 10 times tougher than OK! 6 ranked teams. The toughest game OK plays is out of conference!

  4. Hard On For Harden says: Jul 26, 2014 7:13 PM

    Actual quote “We’re not tied to Texas. The world changes. It was real possibility. It was very real”.

    This refers to OU almost joining the PAC 12 in 2011. They will obviously do what’s in their best interest if another opportunity comes up, but I sincerely doubt the Red River Shootout is going anywhere.

  5. drummerhoff says: Jul 26, 2014 7:15 PM

    “If it was totally up to me, I’d say you’ve got to play all 12 games in the Big 5” conferences, Saban said Wednesday at the Regions Tradition Pro-Am. “If we did that, I think we would be less averse to playing more conference games because I think we have such a great conference. But I don’t think anybody’s going to be in favor of that until we change how you select bowl teams. I think you ought to do it based on the RPI and strength of schedule and all that for all bowls.”

  6. drummerhoff says: Jul 26, 2014 7:20 PM

    Texas has a history of destroying relationships with rivals:


    Texas A&M…….1894….2011….118*
    TCU……………..1897…..2013…. 84
    SMU……………..1916… 1995…..73*

    *no longer on schedule. “The world changes.”

  7. BrownsTown says: Jul 26, 2014 7:22 PM

    Always love hearing excuses for why SEC teams schedule pansies OOC. Strength of schedule matters now, ladies. You can’t hide behind the SEC shield anymore. Gotta prove it against FBS teams now.

  8. BrownsTown says: Jul 26, 2014 7:25 PM

    PAC 12 plays the toughest schedules.

  9. 4512dawg4512 says: Jul 26, 2014 7:55 PM

    And that just goes to show that Stoops wasn’t taking a jab at Texas A&M or Sumlin, he was just using them as a reference to make his point. Let’s not look too far into that

  10. pgilbert15303 says: Jul 26, 2014 8:23 PM

    What a beauty.

    He also went after coach strong this week as well “Kevin Sumlin Takes Apparent Shot At Texas, Says It’s ‘Easy’ To Kick Guys Off Team, He Tries To Develop Men”

    Develop men? “Well Johnny this is how you roll a twenty for a quick bump”

  11. rolltide510 says: Jul 26, 2014 8:24 PM

    100% of the SEC would trade schedules with the PAC 12 in a heartbeat.

  12. greenwave81 says: Jul 26, 2014 9:00 PM

    Not an excuse Brownstown … there are several teams every year in the SEC that are as close as you can get to having NFL quality talent and not be an NFL team. Don’t believe me? Just compare the number of first round draft pics coming from the SEC vs other conferences each and every year.

  13. noleitup says: Jul 26, 2014 9:06 PM

    OU just got done smashing my noles a couple years in a row and they just smashed bama. I think stoops knows what he’s doing.

  14. mrlaloosh says: Jul 26, 2014 9:43 PM

    Stoops is a stooge. Come on over yo the SEC. Notre Dame and Tennessee? Haaaaaa……. Louisiana Tech and SMU are better than those teams.

  15. greenwave81 says: Jul 26, 2014 9:45 PM

    noleitup — there is no doubt he knows what he is doing. However, that is besides the point. If his OU squad had to play A&M’s conference schedule he would be singing a very different tune about the Sooners’ OOC schedule.

  16. brownsmakemecrazy says: Jul 26, 2014 11:04 PM

    Good job Sumlin. Put that chump in his place. Jokelahoma played cupcakes for years. Now because he has to play real teams becuz the Little 12 blows now he all of the sudden is gonna brag how tough his schedule is.

    He wasn’t running his mouth when he was playing Rice, Tulsa, and scrubs like that.

    Go play in the SEC Stoops you would be lucky to go .500.

  17. pricecube says: Jul 26, 2014 11:55 PM

    “Jokelahoma” boat raced the perennial SEC favorite Alabama less than six months ago.

  18. amarredondo7 says: Jul 27, 2014 12:14 AM

    Last time A&M squared off with OU, it was a game that Sooners like to forget.

  19. mogogo1 says: Jul 27, 2014 12:24 AM

    Big year coming for Sumlin. I like the guy but he got a ton of credit when their defense was a sieve and they were relying on one of the great impromptu players of all time. He’s going to have to prove he can win without Johnny Football.

  20. goodfieldnohit says: Jul 27, 2014 2:33 AM

    I don’t know who Brent Sobleski is, but he is a dumb son of a bitch.

  21. goodfieldnohit says: Jul 27, 2014 2:40 AM

    Joe Mixon broke a girl’s face in four places, and you’re trying to clown Sumlin.

  22. ancientcougar says: Jul 27, 2014 10:32 AM

    Both Great Coaches, just different perspectives.
    I’m a little surprised at Stoops going after Sumlin though, considering Sumlin was once Stoops protégé.

  23. coolhorn46 says: Jul 27, 2014 11:20 AM

    Props to Stoops for being as sick and tired of all the SEC hype as everyone except SEC fan. I’m a UT fan, and certainly not a Stoops fan, but anyone who’s been around him knows he calls it like he sees it, and doesn’t offer up excuses, for himself, his team, or anyone else.

    Forget TAMU’s OOC schedule for the time being. Sumlin’s got to prove that he can develop a workable defense, and he’s gotta prove that he can develop his own players, now that he’s run out of All-Americans and Heisman winners recruited by Sherman. I’d think he’d be too busy tending to his own (TAMU) knitting to get into a war of words with Stoops or be passing judgment on what’s happening in Austin. After all, there’s a Fulmer Cup to be won, and agricultural is squarely in the lead for that “honor”.

    I’m NOT dissing the SEC, but the fact remains that it’s the ACC with a one game win streak in the championship game, and the SEC’s glamour team from Tuscaloosa got their rear ends handed to them earlier this year by, ahem, Bob Stoops and OU. Maybe the bloom isn’t off the rose, but the flower has looked better.

  24. greenwave81 says: Jul 27, 2014 11:30 AM


    — Knoxville is a great town and one of the best places anywhere to enjoy the college football experience …especially the tailgating from houseboats in the Tennessee River. Too bad the program has been down in recent years — must be the reason Stoops picked the the UT to play and not one of the stronger SEC programs.

    So how long have you been a Vols fan?

  25. coolhorn46 says: Jul 27, 2014 11:35 AM

    Check my user name and you’ll know I’m NOT a fan of that UT. My favorite school resides in Austin, not Knoxville. I’ve been to Knoxville, and I agree with you that it is a great college town. I’m really not down on the SEC as a whole…I’ve been to Knoxville, Athens, and Oxford, and I think all three are great places. The rest of the conference? Let’s just say collie station fits right in. As for the team OU’s playing, judging by the last SEC team OU played, I’d say Stoops isn’t afraid to schedule anybody out of that conference.

  26. greenwave81 says: Jul 27, 2014 11:41 AM

    Yeah, but he is most definitely afraid of playing an SEC West schedule. Its one thing to play one of those teams every once in a while, but to have to face them all over the course of a three month season is a challenge no college team from any other conference or division must contend with. Really a grind. Even the weaker SEC West teams can be tough in their house. And its even more so if you are an SEC West school that has one of the traditional SEC East power teams as a permanent cross-divisional rival (UGA, FL and, in recent years, USC).

  27. coolhorn46 says: Jul 27, 2014 12:02 PM

    The SEC has had an unprecedented run of championships, up until the most recent one. The SEC will be a major player in the four team playoff for the foreseeable future.

    That being said, take a look. The other conferences are leveling the playing field. The most recent championship belongs to the ACC. The PAC has a tough set of teams at the top, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, and a resurgent USC. I wouldn’t sell Washington short either now that Peterson’s there. The Big XII is no cakewalk with OU, OSU, KSU, Baylor, etc. The B1G has tOSU at the top, Michigan trying to get there, and Wisky pushing both of ’em.

    The SEC? ‘Bama, LSU, USCe, Georgia (Sometimes), Auburn, and below them, at least right now, Florida and ‘Ole Miss. Like all the conferences, the SEC has its’ elite level, and some schools below elite.

    Before any SEC fans get their panties in a wad, read what I’ve said in entirety. The SEC is and will be a major player for championships going forward. However, I wouldn’t expect another nine or ten in a row. Things are changing from the glory days.

  28. greenwave81 says: Jul 27, 2014 1:14 PM

    From a longitudinal standpoint, Florida is not below those schools. And obviously TAMU will join those elites in the near future the way they keep recruiting top 10 classes year after year after year. A program cannot keep stacking classes the way they are without that happening. So that is seven elite programs. No other conference even comes close.

  29. rolltide510 says: Jul 27, 2014 1:19 PM

    I’m not going to subtract from Oklahoma’s victory in the Sugar Bowl by calling it a fluke, hangover game, etc, but wow – not just Oklahoma but their entire conference is really milking waaaaaaay too much out of one game.

    No, the balance of power hasn’t somehow shifted away from the SEC because of the 2013 season. The ACC and Big 12 each only have one good team, and the PAC and B1G are still basically only in it for Rose Bowls at this point.

    Sure, things will change, its inevitable. But wait until it actually happens to declare it.

  30. musiccitymiracle2 says: Jul 27, 2014 2:45 PM

    Agree with the comments that OU the Big 12 is trying to milk way too much out of this game. To be sure, OU did boat-race Alabama in that game. Reading the comments after, it sounds like AL thought they could roll out their five-stars and OU would roll over.

    OU played a great game. Congrats to them. That does not mean that they could roll through an SEC West schedule.

    In the same vein, yeah the ACC did win the national championship, although an SEC team was leading that game until the very end. No freakin way FSU plays an SEC West schedule and goes unbeaten. Heck, they were not ever tested until the NC game.

    In the past, the best way to get there was to go undefeated against a week schedule. Those teams will still get in (see Ohio State, FSU, etc.) despite *zero* wins over good competition. It will be interesting to see what the committee will do when a the unblemished and untested teams are being compared to a one-loss team from the strongest division in the strongest conference. (I’d say if that one-loss team is AL, they get in. Anybody else better hope there are no unbeaten teams ahead of them.).

  31. amosalanzostagg says: Jul 27, 2014 6:25 PM

    Football is cyclical. Now the SEC is the big dog. PAC-12 could become a monster if Texas, OU, Kansas, and Iowa State to form a super conference. Texas has to give up the vaunted LHN, Think Texas is going to give up $15 million a year for the next 17 years? Nope.

    The ACC is late to the table in conference networks, yet they have Notre Dame,Florida State and Clemson on the football stage. Men’s basketball in the ACC is dominant. They are the conference to reckon with.

    The SEC has to build their Men’s basketball league to keep up with the B1G, they don’t and they fall behind the B1G, the ACC and the PAC12 in a complete conference package.

    The Big 12 is DMW.


  32. nacho50 says: Jul 27, 2014 9:46 PM

    seriously. who is the editor for college football talk? Way to use the entire team names! El oh el. How about those Rutgers Scarlet Knights and the Utah Running Utes. Where are the Louisiana Rajun Cajuns or the University of California Irvine Anteaters? ” A thrilling contest last night between the Packers of Green Bay and the Giants of New York!”

    I would advise all CAT bloggers to put down the pipe before posting ease.

  33. brownsmakemecrazy says: Jul 27, 2014 10:19 PM

    Lol you play LA Tech, Tulsa and one of the worst teams in the SEC Tennessee and you are going brag about how tough your schedule is Stoops? Lmao. You cry about the refs, you can’t coach your way out of a paper bag against teams with equal talent Petey rolled you 55-14 in the Orange Bowl, what a sweet game that was to be at to watxh Jokelahoma send the Boomer Schooner to the exit after the 3rd Q.

    Put your money where your mouth is punk schedule Texas A&M, LSU, Alabama, Florida State, Georgua

  34. greenwave81 says: Jul 27, 2014 11:22 PM

    @amosalanzostagg — Don’t ever expect the SEC to ever again take a back seat as the #1 conference in college football. Why? The answer is pretty simple: geography. Much of the ACC is in the north. Same with the Big 12. All the B1G is in the north. The Pac-12 is in the west. Georgraphy is important because where do you think most of the elite players hail from? I’ll tell you: the SEC states. You can also throw Az, Oh and California into the mix. But with the conference’s entire footprint in the state where football is king, I do not see the current dynamic ever changing. Especially not now with two more 100K+ seat stadiums coming in, the SEC network and the addition of the state of Texas as part of the SEC footprint. Now top recruits from the south can stay in the south and play for some very very well heeled programs. Most will not want to stray far from their homes so that they can play in front of the people who raised them and grew up with them. So the only way this dynamic is going to change would be for other parts of the country to develop the same degree of passion for the game as down south. I just do not see that happening. Having lived in Georgia, the Florida panhandle, Louisiana, Texas, Washington, DC, Illinois and California, I would be surprised to see the states outside the south treat this sport with the passion they do down here. Its just ridiculous how passionate the fans are down south and how popular the game is down here — its practically a religion! Reminds me of how people treat ice hockey in northern Minnesota. The people place so much importance and emphasis on the sport down south its almost ridiculous.

  35. coolhorn46 says: Jul 28, 2014 4:44 AM

    The hiring of a new head coach is a crap shoot for any college. Even the hiring of a previously successful coach doesn’t guarantee wins and championships. Ask Michigan how the Rich Rodriguez experiment worked out after the Wolverines hired the highly-successful WVU head coach.

    The point of this? College football, as much as any sport out there, is coach-driven. Get the right one, and your team has a good chance to win a lot. The success of the SEC has largely been driven by Nick Saban, with Spurrier at USCe, and Les Miles at LSU adding to the conference’s luster. Gene Chizik caught lightning in a bottle at Auburn, and Gus Malzahn might be the answer at that school. However, Florida under Muschamp is struggling, and Saban, Spurrier, and Miles are getting on up in coaching years. All three are likely gone before too long. Maybe one of those schools brings in an adequate replacement, but all three? Odds are against it.

    I have no doubt that the top shelf SEC schools, ‘Bama, LSU, Florida, (If they have to replace Muschamp) will attract some fine candidates. USCe too, now that Spurrier’s made them a consistent winner. What I do doubt is that ‘Bama will keep on rolling without a hitch when a new coach takes over. Several legendary head coaches have been a huge factor in the SEC’s run of championships, and I don’t see many schools replacing legends with new legends.

    Change is inevitable, and it’s not always for the good. Age catches up to everyone, and I suspect it’s rapidly catching up with the best, and best-known coaches in the SEC.

  36. greenwave81 says: Jul 28, 2014 8:15 AM

    Consider the talent base that the University of Alabama is surrounded by. Go 200 miles in any direction from Tuscaloosa and just look at the level of players coming out of high school each and every year. Add in the tradition, facilities and resources behind that Tide program and I can promise this — when Saban retires they may drop off a bit, but it will not be far and for long. Besides, the HC will most likely the none other than Kirby Smart — a man who is probably the top defensive guru in CFB. Bottom line with all those seven SEC programs. Of course they will have down years — but it won’t last long. There is simply too much money being pumped into those programs and they sit around an awful lot of low hanging fruit (i.e., elite talent) for them not to be highly successful over the long haul.

  37. 8to80texansblog says: Jul 28, 2014 10:25 AM

    The reality is Stoops was correct in his assessment. Texas A&M doesn’t play a bunch of “toughies.”


    Is that a joke? I guess this Sobleski guy is new but apparently he is training to be a comic.

    A&M schedule of cupcakes…

    Bama (11-2) – Won 3 of last 5 national titles
    Auburn (12-2) – Played for the national title last year
    LSU (10-3) – NFL talent factory
    South Carolina (11-2) – How long since they didn’t win 11 games?
    Missouri – (12-2) – Won SEC East last year

    The combined record of those 5 teams 56-11 (.836)

    But hey…. those aren’t “toughies” are they Brent?

    There’s a reason why A&M has the 5th toughest schedule in the nation….

  38. coolhorn46 says: Jul 28, 2014 10:29 AM

    Tell me what ‘Bama won between Gene Stallings and Nick Saban greenie. My point stands…I don’t care how many alleged advantages a school has, if they don’t have the right head coach, they’re not gonna run off the kind of string of seasons ‘Bama has under Saban. If spending money was the cure for losing, my Horns wouldn’t have become so ordinary the last half a decade under Mack Brown. Again, to keep it simple…college football is head coach-driven, and I wouldn’t be counting on any more championships at ‘Bama when Saban packs it in. They’ll still be good for a while, but not Saban good.

  39. 8to80texansblog says: Jul 28, 2014 11:11 AM

    I agree with @coolhorn for once… mostly.

    CFB today is very HC driven. A great HC can turn even the worst of programs around (Briles – Baylor) or put even the best of programs in the dirt (Kiffin -USC).

    And even the juggernauts go through growing pains between their legendary HCs.

    But not always… LSU went from Saban to Miles, Ohio St. went from Tressel to Myer, FSU went from Bowden to Fisher. Sure, maybe they got lucky that next guy was available, but maybe a program like Bama tends to have the pull to make that next guy available.

  40. greenwave81 says: Jul 28, 2014 6:52 PM

    @coolhorn — Texas’ problems are due to a confluence of two things: one, Mack Brown becoming complacent. Two, the fact that the best recruits generally want to play against the top competition. While the Big 12 has its moments, the reality is that its a weaker conference on balance than other conferences. That dynamic feeds on itself. The weaker the Big 12 is perceived the fewer the truly elite recruits who want to play for a Big 12 school. Which goes back to Stoops: he recognizes this dynamic which is why he spends so much time criticizing the SEC. Through his mouth he is trying to convince the elite recruits they would be better off playing for a Big 12 team (namely, the Sooners) than an SEC team. That may sell to some recruits, but not most. Most know there is a real difference from having to play an Alabama type of program once or twice year (and having to do so thru bowls and OOC scheduling at that) vs having to play such a program five or six times a year against in-conference foes.

  41. v2the4 says: Jul 29, 2014 3:16 PM

    greenwave…Texas problems really go back to the 2009 season….Mack Brown moved from the spread to a power I offense without a top running back, and out of the 57 recruits he landed between the 2009 and 2010 classes, only 7 of them finished their careers at UT…..10 of them transferred, seven of them quit football, six players were kicked off the team and the rest didnt amount to be the star players everyone thought they were….in addition to that, we had three five star QB’s (Garrett Gilbert, Conner Wood and Conner Brewer who played one full year at UT between them. Gilbert went to SMU, where he had a good career and was drafted by the Rams in the 6th round…Brewer sat out last season, and will be Arizona’s starting QB this year, and Wood transferred to Colorado, where he started for two years, but has since quit football after losing his spot to a freshman)

    10 years ago, the SEC was dominated by the teams in the east…Florida with Steve Spurrier…Tennessee with Phillip Fulmer and Georgia with Mark Ritch….those three schools were doing what Alabama, LSU and Auburn have done in the sec west..they dominated the conference…..Florida won two NC’s with Urban Meyer and UGA kept pace, winning mulitple games every year with only one losing season, but Tennessee fell way off, even losing to Vanderbilt and Kentucky..

    .flash foward to present day, Spurrier left Florida for the NFL Washington Redskins, then got fired after two years, and replaced Lou Holtz at South Carolina, after he rebounded that program from an 0-21 hole to a new years day bowl game in three years…..Fulmer couldnt survive two out of three losing seasons at Tenn, but most importantly, both Tenn and Florida were having off the field issues with multiple players arrested and kicked off the team.

    Richt is having that issue right now at UGA, and had to run off a punch of talented four and five star players, including four starters on his defense….Charlie Strong has the same issue at Texas…TCU Coach Patterson dealt with a major issue on his team last summer and that is the lure of drugs…..TCU had 66 out of 104 players test positive for drugs during a random drug test…I don’t know why these youngsters love smoking trees so much..they love smoking weed more than the opportunity to excel in school and eventually make money as a pro player (see Josh Gordon, Ace Sanders, Hazelton from Indy, D’Rick Rogers and Sam Montgomery for futher details)

    In regards to Sumlin/Stoops…Stoops has no right to call anyone out about their non conference schedule…Im a Texas fan and I have no love at all for OU or those inn college station, but in this instance, Sumlin was right to address the issue. Here are the non conference foes for OU since 1999 when Stoops took over:

    1999-Indiana St, Louisville, Notre Dame(2-1)
    2000-Utep, Arkansas St, Rice (3-0)
    2001-UNC, Air Force, North Texas (3-0)
    2002-Tulsa, Alababma, UTEP, S.Florida (4-0)
    2003-N.Texas, Alabama,Fresno St, UCLA (4-0)
    2004-Bowling Green, Houston, Oregon (4-0)
    2005-TCU, Tulsa, UCLA (1-2)
    2006-UAB, Washington, Oregon, Middle Tenn(3-1)
    2007-N.Texas, Miami, Utah St, Tulsa (4-0)
    2008- Tenn Chat, cincy, Washington, TCU (4-0)
    2009: BYU, Idaho St, Tulsa, Miami (2-2)
    2010:Utah St, Florida St, Air Force, Cincy (4-0)
    2011: Tulsa, Florida St, Ball St (3-0)
    2012: UTEP, FAMU, Notre Dame (2-1)
    2013: La Monroe, Tulsa, Notre Dame (3-0)

    stoops record vs aTm: 10-3, including wins of 77-0, 66-10 and 65=6-28….he scored 50+ five times vs the aggies

    Stoops has no room to talk….he has pretty much played directional schools, a couple of service academies, and five times vs Tulsa….

    as far as big 4 opponents(since he cant play the Big 12 in OOC) he played Notre Dame (3) Alabama(2), Oregon(2) Washington(2) Florida State (2) UCLA (2), Louisville (1) UNC(1) and TCU(2, now part of B12)

  42. greenwave81 says: Jul 29, 2014 4:39 PM

    Yes, the aggies were pretty lowly there for a while. But as Dylan says, times sure are a-changin. Any reason you forgot to mention the 1997 beatdown the sooners took at the hands of A&M in Norman? (51-7)

  43. 8to80texansblog says: Jul 29, 2014 5:42 PM

    I don’t believe Stoops was the coach of OU at that point…. Think he came on board after the ’98 season because I know we smoked ’em in ’98 too. In the rain I remember…

    And yes, the Fran years set this program back a decade… Those were definitely some lean times…

  44. 8to80texansblog says: Jul 30, 2014 4:38 PM

    Really good, albeit biased, article on why Stoops is making these comments.

  45. greenwave81 says: Jul 30, 2014 9:34 PM

    8to80 — that is some great poop. I think it is safe to say OU has been hurt more than any other school by A&M’s move. The University of Texas has been hurt some in recruiting, but wow! OU has really taken on the chin! Makes sense….the longhorns will always get some of the Lone Star State’s riches, no matter how much success A&M has just because there will always be a bastion of players loyal to program in Austin. But OU is a different matter altogether! Wowzer — OU’s ability to drop elite recruits has dropped like a stone in water!

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