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Big House sets U.S. soccer attendance mark

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The futbollers may not have been happy with the pitch, but that didn’t stop the fans from coming — in record-setting droves —  to Ann Arbor.

According to multiple accounts, a whopping 109,318 packed into Michigan Stadium to take in a friendly between Manchester United and Real Madrid, two of the most recognizable names in international soccer. That number easily surpassed the previous record for a soccer match on U.S. soil, besting the 1984 Olympic final between Brazil and France at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena that drew 101,799.

The world record of 173,850 for a soccer match was set in 1950, for the World Cup final match between host-country Brazil and Uruguay.

For a further reference point, the 2014 NHL Winter Classic at the Big House saw 105,491 in attendance for a professional hockey game. A college hockey game at the stadium was attended by 104,173.

It still, though, doesn’t compare to the Big House record for any sport: the 2013 Notre Dame-Michigan game that saw 115,109 crammed into a stadium with an official capacity of 109,901.  That was ans still is the most-attended game in the history of college football.

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  1. basebuck says: Aug 2, 2014 6:51 PM

    Who cares? It’s soccer and it’s Michigan!

  2. phil954 says: Aug 2, 2014 7:04 PM

    That’s funny. I thought the World Cup final was Germany and Argentina LOL

  3. jec332 says: Aug 2, 2014 7:16 PM

    Yawn

  4. mrlaloosh says: Aug 2, 2014 7:53 PM

    Big House = Big Quiet……

  5. jabbadonut says: Aug 2, 2014 8:16 PM

    I suppose the tickets were free?

  6. dawgpounddave says: Aug 2, 2014 8:49 PM

    Combining the worst two things in sports does not make for a good event.

  7. bonnovi says: Aug 2, 2014 9:13 PM

    How many of the people there were actually from Michigan? Let alone America?

  8. footballer4ever says: Aug 2, 2014 10:02 PM

    “The FUTBOLLERS may not have been happy with the pitch, but that didn’t stop the fans from coming — in record-setting droves — to Ann Arbor.”

    LOL, you meant to say FOOTBALLERS? or are you going to tell me now that FOOTALL and FOOTBALLERS are American words you use and call your own “football”, err, eggball players too?

    109,318 football fans, not too shabby for a sport “noone cares in America”as some like to believe that is the case. Thank you for your football hatred, it only confirms football is on an exponential growth to the dislike of the few remaining uncultured dinosaurs out there!

    Long Live Football, World Football that is! ;)

  9. bonnovi says: Aug 2, 2014 11:03 PM

    In 1985, the Harris Poll Service asked Americans what their favorite sport was. 3% said professional soccer.

    In 2014, they asked the question again. 2% said professional soccer.

    Real explosive growth there…

  10. lanzurrah says: Aug 2, 2014 11:23 PM

    Fastest growing sport in the US….the US/Germany group stage game had higher ratings than the NBA Finals deciding game…

  11. footballer4ever says: Aug 2, 2014 11:28 PM

    @bonnovi,

    Of course you don’t live your life based on polls, do you? Otherwise, you must rule your life as to what people think of you. What a pity!

    Btw, I am American and that poll does not include me.

    Again, what a lame resource to downplay another sport’s continued growth. Thank you for your continued attention to a sport “noone really cares” about somehow your attention says otherwise. (wink wink)

  12. footballer4ever says: Aug 2, 2014 11:36 PM

    Btw, an ongoing MLS football game between San Jose Earthquakes vs Seattle Sounders FC is currently being played at Levi Stadium in front of a well attendent stadium (attendance not announced yet). Yeah, but most of them must be “illegals” or possibly aliens from another planet as far as some DINOSAURS out there. ROTFLOL.

  13. tigersfandan says: Aug 2, 2014 11:43 PM

    We get it. You like soccer. You have a right to like soccer. The rest of us have a right not to like soccer.

  14. footballer4ever says: Aug 2, 2014 11:51 PM

    @ tigersfandan

    I get it. This is the time when your repetitive arguments don’t hold ground as you’d like and your ignorant views are exposed and your wanna believe arguments are brought down like the Berlin wall. Now it’s on to ” you like soccer and we have a right not to” conversation ending statement.

    As much as you have a right not to like “soccer”, noone has a right to tell spit venom/hatred to a sport or to fans who do love the sport and get all worked up when it’s called football to the contrary blood boiling feelings.

  15. dumbpollack says: Aug 3, 2014 12:01 AM

    I hear the Hoke set a stadium record as well…eating 25 cherry pies in 7 minutes!

  16. footballer4ever says: Aug 3, 2014 12:03 AM

    @ jabbadonut says:

    “I suppose the tickets were free?”
    ___________________________________
    ROTFLOL, talking on ignorance or wishful thinking.

    Crain’s Detroid Business -Detroit’s and Southeast’s Michigan Premier business news and information website posted:

    “If you want a seat for Saturday’s sold-out Manchester United-Real Madrid soccer match at 109,000-seat Michigan Stadium, it’ll cost you at least $162.

    That’s the get-in price — the least expensive available ticket — for the game on the resale market, according to data provided this morning by New York City-based TiqIQ, which aggregates tickets being resold by StubHub, TicketNetwork, TicketsNow, eBay and hundreds of brokers.

    Face value of the tickets is $45 to $189.

    The current secondary market average ticket price for the GLOBALLY televised match between the two soccer powerhouses is $239.89, second highest of the International Champions Cup games, just behind the July 30 match at Yankee Stadium between Liverpool FC and Manchester City ($269.33), said Chris Matcovich, director of data and communications for TiqIQ.

    The most expensive Big House ticket at 10 a.m. Friday was $485 for a seat in Section 44 Row A.

    Btw, that is not a “Poll”, LOL, Don’t believe what I say, because I don’t believe what you say either.

    Take a look yourself:

    http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20140801/NEWS/140809993/want-to-attend-saturdays-sold-out-soccer-match-at-big-house-itll

  17. bonnovi says: Aug 3, 2014 12:04 AM

    They’ve been conducting the polls every year since 1985 and never has soccer gotten more than %4 of the population saying it was their favorite sport. You just can’t wish away statistical fact by saying there’s some sort of wave of soccer fever that’s washing over this country (Unless there’s some weird Bradley effect where people don’t want to admit they’re soccer fans.)

    (Also, the other day I saw a game between Bayern Munich and I can’t remember who else being held in New Jersey and the stadium looked 1/3rd full. Just like the Portland/LA game today.)

  18. bonnovi says: Aug 3, 2014 12:05 AM

    Also, it is a poll:

    http://www.harrisinteractive.com/NewsRoom/HarrisPolls/tabid/447/ctl/ReadCustom%20Default/mid/1508/ArticleId/1136/Default.aspx

  19. footballer4ever says: Aug 3, 2014 12:05 AM

    @DUMBpollack says

    “I hear the Hoke set a stadium record as well…eating 25 cherry pies in 7 minutes!”

    You sure do live up to your well fit name. I’ll give you a break just because of that. (wink)

  20. footballer4ever says: Aug 3, 2014 12:10 AM

    @bonnovi says:

    Uhhhh! someone has been following football, for the wrong reasons of course, but you have. Wow, I am impressed. Thank you for letting us all know of your football hidden activities!!! (clapping)

  21. bonnovi says: Aug 3, 2014 12:23 AM

    You’re just getting childish now. I turn on soccer games to see how many people are there just to see if soccer fever is sweeping the country (Which, so far, it isn’t.)

    Also, you abandoned the poll thing as soon as I got a link to it.

  22. footballer4ever says: Aug 3, 2014 12:25 AM

    @bonnovi says:

    “(Also, the other day I saw a game between Bayern Munich and I can’t remember who else being held in New Jersey and the stadium looked 1/3rd full. Just like the Portland/LA game today.)”

    Pinocchio, err, bonnovi,

    The stadium was 60 percent full at the opening whistle, but the seats eventually filled in, an attribute of many “illegals”, err, American sporting experiences. The final attendance was 25,023.

    Per International Business Times website:

    “A sellout crowd of 25,000 at Red Bull Arena was evidence that the 2013 European champions and current world champions’ efforts to increase the North-American presence was enjoying success, ahead of their meeting with the MLS All-Stars next week.”

    http://www.ibtimes.com/video-bayern-munich-1-0-chivas-guadalajara-highlights-pizarro-goal-gives-bayern-friendly-1645614

  23. footballer4ever says: Aug 3, 2014 12:30 AM

    @bonnovi says :

    “You’re just getting childish now. I turn on soccer games to see how many people are there just to see if soccer fever is sweeping the country (Which, so far, it isn’t.)

    Also, you abandoned the poll thing as soon as I got a link to it.”

    ROTFLOL, Pot meet kettle! Thank you for tuning in to football games, even if it’s for the wrong reason as previous stated.

    Poll? Pole? you sure like to hang onto those things for dear life, huh!? LOL

  24. footballer4ever says: Aug 3, 2014 12:42 AM

    Anyhow, It was fun toying with your “intelligence” or lack there of and exposing other’s biased/hateful views.

    Have a good night and may you not wake up sweating in the middle of the night that you attended a football/”soccer” game and enjoyed the experience. (wink)

  25. bonnovi says: Aug 3, 2014 9:40 AM

    I’d never have the money to attend a soccer game (Or any other major sporting event, for that matter.) But I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

    Congratulations, soccer fans, (Whether you are just 2% of the population or more.) for now living in a day and age where you have unprecedented access to soccer games here in America and all over the world.

    And congratulations, football fans, for College football season is only a month away and you won’t have to put up with soccer trolls then.

    Go Gamecocks.

  26. jec332 says: Aug 3, 2014 9:52 AM

    Footballer4ever,

    Soccer is a joke. It’s a bunch of pansies faking injuries. There must have just been nothing better to do in the entire state that day, as most people do not care.

    MLS games are well attended? They are about as well attended as a high school game and end up on espn8 “the ocho” or something. Even then, it probably is just replayed a couple days later at 2am on a Tuesday.

    We get how much you like soccer, but there is not some sudden increase in popularity. Most Americans just realize it’s a soft sport compared to football.

  27. mudhead123 says: Aug 3, 2014 1:44 PM

    If “football4ever” wants to talk a big game, learn that “no one” isn’t 1 word. You said you’re American and can’t spell? You used it twice, so that’s not a typo

  28. florida727 says: Aug 3, 2014 1:45 PM

    I’m not a diehard soccer fan, so I’ve got no proverbial “dog in the fight”, but I am glad to see this event so well attended. It does mean something significant to those that soccer matters most.

    To the many posts on here, one question: why the hate? Soccer folks don’t hang around message boards posting about how stupid a college football game or an NBA game or one of 162 regular season baseball games is. Why rain on their parade?

    I say congratulations to the game of soccer, and soccer fans who supported this event by attending. You should be proud of this event… for being able to draw two of the most globally recognized teams in all of professional sports to come to America and put on a great performance. Well done. Do it more often.

  29. oldladyjuve says: Aug 3, 2014 3:15 PM

    I guess I don’t understand the hate for soccer. Do soccer fans go on other sport articles and post hateful ignorant comments toward the sport? Someone who hates the sport and takes the time to say negative things please explain this. The only logical thing I can think of is that these people only love the ‘traditional’ American sports and are afraid of change. It’s clear that the sport is here to stay, we are past that point. 110,000 just went to watch a game of soccer.
    Even the MLS gets higher attendances than NBA, NHL and alot of MLB teams. Teams like Portland and Seattle constantly sell-out. I had also read recently that soccer is the 2nd most popular sport among the age group of 12-24. I don’t have the link but you can look it up. You should also look at the kind of crowds 4th division NPSL teams get. Look up Chattanooga FC (and the Chattahooligans) and look up Detroit City FC (and the Northern Guard). Pretty impressive stuff for semi pro soccer.
    There is no need for all the hate. If you don’t like soccer then that’s fine. I promise you can just keep it to yourself and you’ll be fine. Stop the ignorance and let us all enjoy the beautiful game.

  30. footballer4ever says: Aug 3, 2014 6:14 PM

    @ mudhead123

    You got no point, let alone any backbone to hold your ground in any argument. That in itself speaks volume, but what better is there to expect from ignorant individuals like you/jec332/bonnovi ? (wink)

    @florida727

    For someone who has no proverbial “dog in the fight”, you are the exception to the right winged minded bigots or simply bigots by itself who uses the sport of football which is loved around the world to spit their venom on the sport, but they really mean it to the people who love and follow the sport. Don’t like it? you don’t have to, but don’t waste your time expressing your hateful rampage because other’s do love it. The same fate applies to cricket, rugby and other non-American sports; However, since football is king around the world, the biggest stones are reserved for the one who is more likely to grow culturally in USA.

    @oldladyjuve

    You don’t have to understand the hate, just understand the reason why the hate is there, where it originates from and how you can counter-attack their position. Once you realize that, you can pretty much sweep them on the floor from left to right and laugh out loud in their face that their big mouth words/hating stance is not a prevalent one anymore which used to dominate and humiliate anyone who dared to be “Un-American” by the simply fact of associating themselves with the sport of football or as they like to call it “soccer”.

    Class dismissed! (BIG GRIN)

  31. jec332 says: Aug 3, 2014 6:53 PM

    Soccer is a sport for skinny jeans wearing Europeans. Other than the World Cup, it’s not worth watching.

    This was cute to do this, but it doesn’t validate it as increasing in popularity. It was more the novelty than anything.

    The rest of the world needs to grow culturally and embrace real football. I think we’re all fine sports like Rugby and basketball. That’s a real sport as well. Just not soccer. As I said, it’s played by soft men that like to fake injuries that wouldn’t last in truly physical sports.

    You can grin all you like. Knowing soccer will never be popular in the US, minus the World Cup, because we like real sports makes me smile.

  32. bonnovi says: Aug 3, 2014 7:52 PM

    I’m not right-wing, I’m not anti-immigrant and I am a member of young generation that is supposed to sweep soccer into the mainstream. I just don’t like the sport.

  33. footballer4ever says: Aug 3, 2014 8:26 PM

    Blah! Blah! Blah! no need to cover your tracks or ever care for your “reasons”, kids!

  34. bonnovi says: Aug 3, 2014 10:04 PM

    I just realized, what is a soccer troll doing on a college football website?

  35. tigersfandan says: Aug 4, 2014 10:29 AM

    I must say I am rather amused to see someone acting as if saying bad things about soccer equates to hatred and ignorance. It’s a game!

  36. footballer4ever says: Aug 4, 2014 7:25 PM

    Be amused all you want. It’s amusing how much time and effort you try to put down something that supposedly it’s not worth it. Either way, your wishes wont’t stop anything. Excuse me, but i got a Monday Night Football I am about to watch in lovely (althought cloudy/rainy) Miami for the Guiness Championship Final at Sunlife Stadium between Manchester United Football Club vs Liverpool Football Club. Dueces soccee haters! (wink)

  37. bonnovi says: Aug 4, 2014 7:59 PM

    You didn’t explain why you were on a college football website…

    Are you even a fan of (American) football?

  38. tigersfandan says: Aug 5, 2014 12:59 AM

    footballer4ever says:
    Aug 4, 2014 7:25 PM
    Be amused all you want. It’s amusing how much time and effort you try to put down something that supposedly it’s not worth it. Either way, your wishes wont’t stop anything. Excuse me, but i got a Monday Night Football I am about to watch in lovely (althought cloudy/rainy) Miami for the Guiness Championship Final at Sunlife Stadium between Manchester United Football Club vs Liverpool Football Club. Dueces soccee haters! (wink)
    ____________________________________

    Up to this point, I haven’t been spending time and effort in trying to put down soccer. Apparently you just wish to lump everyone who doesn’t agree with you into a big group and then label them all as haters. But whatever… enjoy watching 22 guys running around a field and accomplishing nothing for 90 minutes!

  39. footballer4ever says: Aug 5, 2014 1:16 AM

    Yes! Exciting Monday Night Football game was enjoyed at Sunlife Stadium. It rain, err, downpoured the whole monday in Miami; Nevertheless 51,014 braved the tropical weather to watch in person the Guiness International Cup final between World Reknowned Manchester United Football Club vs Liverpool Football Club. Heck, it took me almost an hour to get to the stadium for something that normally would only take 30 minutes in the rain. Tailgating was a no-no for the obvious weather reasons, but once 8:00pm arrived, the clouds had already cleared up. I had managed to purchase 4 tickets as soon as they were made available late January and quite a view and comfort sitting at a club reserved seating was icing on the cake for the 4 of us. Last but not least, Manchester United Football Club beat Liverpool 3-1 in a electryfing game and fan stadium enviroment. Again, not to shabby for 51,000+ fans to fill up a stadium not even the hurricanes and even dolphins eggball teams are able to fill up anymore.

  40. jec332 says: Aug 5, 2014 8:44 AM

    Ha, well I guess that just proves it then. You lived in an area where people had nothing better to do than soccer.

    You really are ignorant.

  41. footballer4ever says: Aug 5, 2014 9:57 AM

    @jec332

    listen and analyze yourself for a moment on that last statement, or any statements as as matter of fact, and who is the ignorant one in the end?? Miami , a town that there is nothing to do? ROTFLOL. Thank you for the laugh your ignorance provides each time you express yourself, Classic Dumbness!

  42. bonnovi says: Aug 5, 2014 11:00 AM

    So, are you a fan of (American) football or not? you never answered.

  43. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 5, 2014 11:16 AM

    @bonnovi

    Your poll argument is lazy logic at best… I’m a huge soccer fan. My favorite sport is still college football.

    Just because it’s not my favorite sport doesn’t mean I’m not a fan.

    And just because more people like football to soccer doesn’t mean that soccer isn’t growing in this country. The Seattle Sounders average 45k a game and sell out the CLink all the time.

    You want to see a fan experience that rivals a CFB rivalry game…. go to a USA v Mexico game. The atmosphere is electric and intense.

  44. bonnovi says: Aug 5, 2014 11:46 AM

    Well, I’m glad to see that you a football fan, just wanted to make sure that you weren’t on this website to simply troll.

    Also, what’s flawed with my poll argument? Surely you agree with me that football’s (specifically the NFL’s) popularity has grown over the past 30 years. The poll shows that as the popularity of the NFL has increased, so has the number of people who say it’s their favorite sport. Wouldn’t the same be happening with soccer if it was increasing in popularity?

    Anyway, I think that even if soccer grows in popularity it’s ceiling is probably around that of NASCAR and professional golf. That is, relatively popular but mostly in one demographic group and never popular enough to truly enter the dominant ranks of basketball, baseball, hockey (Although its appeal is mostly regional) and football.

    Also, from what I can tell, Seattle is some strange outlier in attendance, having an average of 25,000 more fans attending their games than any other MLS team.

  45. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 5, 2014 12:34 PM

    By your logic, Men’s College Basketball is a sport that no one likes either…. only 3 percent of people in that poll say that it’s their favorite and that number is half of what it was in 1985. Yet the NCAA sold the rights to CBS for almost $1B a year…. In 1986 the tournament generated $41M.

    MLS will have almost doubled in size since 2005, average attendance is up 35% in that same time frame and that doesn’t even illustrate the surge in total attendance as the league has almost twice the size.

    The other 4 main sports in this country have had generations to cultivate fan loyalty. The MLS has had 1…

    ESPN launched a poll in 2012 about what sports people are fans of. Over 1/3 of the 18000+ surveyed identified themselves as fans of MLS. A 25% increase from 5 years previously.

    Will soccer ever surpass football in this country, probably not. Does that mean it’s not growing?

  46. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 5, 2014 12:46 PM

    BTW that $41MM dollar number for the 1986 tournament adjusted for inflation is $81.4 in todays dollars.

    So though that poll says the popularity of Men’s College basketball has declined by 50% since 1985, the value of the tv contract for just the tournament has increased by 965% (inflation adjusted)

    You see why that poll is flawed….

  47. bonnovi says: Aug 5, 2014 1:15 PM

    Television ratings everywhere are down from 20-30 years ago, live sports are one of the few areas where there is still growth so networks are willing to pay big bucks for it even if it isn’t that popular.

  48. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 5, 2014 2:26 PM

    So you’re trying to tell me that the NCAA Tournament “isn’t that popular”?

  49. bonnovi says: Aug 5, 2014 2:39 PM

    No, I’m saying that television networks pay a lot of money for countless sporting events. Take the MLS, for instance, regardless of whether you think the events are well attended or not you agree that their television ratings are dismal (I think the championship game last year got 400,000 viewers) yet they’re getting $90 million dollars a year over eight years from ESPN, Fox sports and Univision to broadcast the games.

  50. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 5, 2014 3:12 PM

    How were the World Cup ratings? For a sporting event in the middle of the work day?

    And by the way… that 400k number was the English broadcast… With the Spanish broadcast the total was close to a million.

    But yes… MLS ratings overall aren’t great. That is more of a product of the MLS product not being up to par to other world leagues. The Premier League moved from ESPN to NBC this last year and doubled their viewership.

    We can go back and forth all day… the point is… soccer is growing in popularity in this country and your poll hardly proves otherwise…

  51. bonnovi says: Aug 5, 2014 8:47 PM

    Well, in closing, (I hope) I will offer three reasons why soccer hasn’t gone mainstream and will not in the short to medium-term future (I’m not really willing to offer predictions for anything long-term):

    1- The next two World Cups will be held on the other side of the planet.

    Consider that the World Cup is far and away the main driver of the soccer “craze” in this country (One might say it wouldn’t garner nearly as much attention if it wasn’t in the middle of summer and its only competition was boring mid-season baseball, but I digress.) But in 2018, in Russia the games will start from as early as midnight on the West Coast and as late as 9 AM on the East Coast. I can only imagine that they will rebroadcast the games later in the day, but, much like the Winter Olympics between Vancouver and Sochi, the ratings will fall.
    Then, in 2022, in Qatar, the games will start either early in the morning or the middle of the night and also be in the middle of football season, if the time of year the games will be played will be pushed back because of the extreme heat. I can only imagine that will cause more damage to the ratings. (Unless Team USA makes a deep run in the World Cup, which brings me to my next point…)

    2- Team USA just isn’t that good

    Despite the excitement around Team USA this past World Cup they only won one game. The best way to get people up in the middle of the night to watch a game is if the team is going to win more than one or two games and not get eliminated in the first round. From what I hear, Team USA has young talented players (But I really have no idea about the specifics.) but they’re going to actually have to start winning games to gain more popularity.

    3- Soccer gets buried for three quarters of the year under other sports.

    It’s just that simple. The sport gets forgotten. Meanwhile, the NFL always has at least an hour and a half of programming on weekdays exclusively for it all through the year on ESPN, baseball has one, college football and basketball have a half hour each. Soccer, (unless it’s on ESPN2 or ESPNNEWS.) has none.

  52. jec332 says: Aug 5, 2014 9:10 PM

    @bonnovi

    You forgot the last point.

    4-Soccer is boring.

  53. bonnovi says: Aug 5, 2014 9:21 PM

    Yeah, that’s my personal opinion, but I would have gotten a mountain of soccer fan hate if I had included it.

  54. footballer4ever says: Aug 5, 2014 10:47 PM

    LOL, Where is the poll for that ? LOL

  55. bonnovi says: Aug 5, 2014 10:54 PM

    I just want a straight answer from you, footballer4ever, are you an American football fan or not? Judging by your calling the sport “eggball” and using the term “footballer” I would say not. So stop trolling on this website.

  56. footballer4ever says: Aug 5, 2014 11:38 PM

    FORBES.COM -Jesse Lawrence- Contributor

    Champions Cup Attendance And Demand For Tickets Show Enthusiasm For Soccer In U.S.

    Despite the United States loss in last month’s World Cup, Soccer is alive and well in the United States. If you need evidence, look no further than the the Guinness International Champions Cup. Over the last two weeks, close to 1 million fans have witnessed the second-ever Champions Cup. That’s roughly double last year’s final attendance of 492,575. The biggest draw of the tournament was at Michigan Stadium and broke the all-time attendance for a soccer game in the United States. At 109,318, the semi-finals match was between Manchester United and Real Madrid, and broke the previous record which had belonged to the 1984 Olympic finals between Brazil and France. That game was at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California and drew 101,799 fans.

    It’s quite a statement about the state of the World’s Game in America when over 100,000 pay an average of $271 on the secondary market to see an exhibition match. That was by far the most expensive match of the tournament and over $100 more expensive than the second-most expensive game, at Yankee Stadium. Overall, the tournament had an average of $139 across the 13 matches. After Yankee Stadium, FedEx Field was the third most expensive match. The cheapest match according to the secondary market was in Philadelphia at Lincoln Financial Field, which had an average price of $86. As a point of reference the most expensive game this season on was on the Sounders schedule against the Timbers, at an average of $111.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawrence/2014/08/03/champions-cup-attendance-and-demand-for-tickets-show-enthusiasm-for-soccer-in-u-s/

  57. bonnovi says: Aug 6, 2014 12:01 AM

    So… you aren’t a fan of American football at all and you’re just here to troll. That’s great. Now I can just disregard everything you say. Goodbye.

  58. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 6, 2014 9:47 AM

    I’m a huge fan of “American” football. At one point I had season tickets to the Houston Texans, Texas A&M Aggies, and also the Houston Dynamo.

    I keep getting the feeling from you that because I like “American” football, I can’t also like soccer? Those two sports aren’t at odds with each other.

    It is possible for soccer to exist and thrive in the US sports landscape. Again, will it surpass football anytime soon? Probably not. But is it going away any time soon? Definitely not.

  59. bonnovi says: Aug 6, 2014 10:38 AM

    I’m not asking you, I’m asking footballer4ever. (Unless you’re the same person using two different accounts for whatever reason.) You’ve already made it quite clear that you’re a fan of soccer and football.

  60. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 6, 2014 11:31 AM

    Why do you care….? You’re the one here trolling. The title of this article isn’t “People hate soccer so come voice your opinion”

    And no… I have only one username and if you are a frequenter to CFT you will see me posting regularly.

  61. bonnovi says: Aug 6, 2014 11:57 AM

    It started when I made the comment “How many of the people there were actually from Michigan? Let alone America?” (Which wasn’t meant as nativist/anti-immigrant garbage. It was legitimate curiosity because I know that Manchester United and Real Madrid are some of the biggest soccer teams in the world and they attract thousands of people who follow them wherever they go.) And then footballer4ever pounced with their trolling and I didn’t want to back down and one thing led to another…

    Also, I comment on this website. I’m relatively new but I do comment. (Unlike footballer4ever, who’s just here for the trolling.)

    On an unrelated note, I am glad that this story has supplanted “Jameis Winston hunts squirrels with pellet gun, gets stopped at gunpoint.” in terms of total comments.

  62. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 6, 2014 1:40 PM

  63. bonnovi says: Aug 6, 2014 3:06 PM

    Well, that’s as good a thing as any to close this conversation…

  64. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 6, 2014 6:51 PM

    Just remember…. the most posted on topic on CFT right now…. is about soccer.

  65. bonnovi says: Aug 6, 2014 9:00 PM

    Man, you wouldn’t let me have the last word…

  66. footballer4ever says: Aug 7, 2014 12:46 AM

    bonnovi said:

    1) – “It started when I made the comment “How many of the people there were actually from Michigan? Let alone America?” (Which wasn’t meant as nativist/anti-immigrant garbage. It was legitimate curiosity because I know that Manchester United and Real Madrid are some of the biggest soccer teams in the world and they attract thousands of people who follow them wherever they go.) ”
    ______________
    *****With all due respect, what you said and meant to say are two different things. Maybe you should think before you speak or simply learn to sugarcoat your biased feelings/opinions. If you’d been smarter to leave it at “How many of the people were actually from Michigan” than what you added afterwards. That carried a discriminatory /biased tone to it even though I can expect for you to disagree with that view as you are already have pronounced yourself as a closed-minded/biased individual.

    As far as your lame reasoning that it was a “legitimate curiosity”, well, you can’t expect 109,318 foreigners from outside of the US just to attend a football game. There is a lot of naiveness on your part or simply self-denial/objection to the realization that the sport of football you despise, err, “you do not like” it’s actually growing and making strides culturally in USA.*****
    ___________________

    2) “Also, I comment on this website. I’m relatively new but I do comment. (Unlike footballer4ever, who’s just here for the trolling.)”

    *** Moi , trolling? LOL, funny stuff!

    8to80texansblog said it best ” Why do you care….? You’re the one here trolling. The title of this article isn’t “People hate soccer so come voice your opinion”

    ___________________

    3) …..”And then footballer4ever pounced with their trolling and I didn’t want to back down and one thing led to another…” + “Man, you wouldn’t let me have the last word…”

    You sure do get riled up easily, huh!? and on top of that you must have the last word? That can easily be attributed to immaturity. Grow up, kid!

    ____________________

    4) 8to80texansblog, you are quite a well center individual in the way you express yourself, regardless if you are a “soccer” fan or not, but if you were not one, I am sure you’d have objective reasons which I would respect in that case. I tip my hat to you!

    5) 8to80texansblog, said : “Just remember…. the most posted on topic on CFT right now…. is about soccer.”

    Who would have thought that being the case even 5 years ago, but it speaks volume to the state of the global game in the United States of America that fooball is being imported, embraced organically and the once stigma blinders that had been falsely promoted is no longer the case as more people are appreciating football more and more, football- The Beautiful game!

    6) last, but not least, I will the better individual and offer my apologies to anyone who got “offended” by my well-defined and factually informative stance on the feelings of football that I love and support that may contradict with yours and let alone dare to post it in your college”football” blog. I can understand that rubs off the wrong way and it boils your blood from your own “Pro-Americana”/Anti-Foreign sentiments because world football is more than just a past time, but it’s a reflection of world society movements which runs like blood thru the veins of each footballing nation in planet earth. The U.S. was dormant to it for quite sometime, but the giant has opened its eyes and found appreciation in football, the beautiful type!

    Anyways, Premier League Football is about to start on August 16th on NBC/NBCSN.

  67. bonnovi says: Aug 7, 2014 6:17 AM

    Congratulations, you win, I am now a huge fan of the sport of football. I have opened my eyes to the unstoppable expansion of the World’s Game. My favorite EPL team is Southampton and my favorite player on the team is Jack Cork because his last name is Cork. (But my favorite player overall is Cristiano Ronaldo, he’s just so dreamy!)

    GO TEAM USA! I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN! SAY IT WITH ME!
    I BELIEVE!
    I BELIEVE THAT!
    I BELIEVE THAT WE!
    I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!
    I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!
    I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!

    (And yes, you did officially cause me to become unglued.)

  68. bonnovi says: Aug 7, 2014 7:14 AM

    Anyway, I’m going to keep this going because if it goes on long enough maybe it will go viral and be featured on Deadspin or something…

    When have your arguments been “well-defined and factually informative”? As far as I can tell, your argument is based around two anecdotes/opinions:

    1- Anybody who doesn’t like soccer or has reason to believe that soccer won’t explode into mainstream is xenophobic and closed-minded.

    Perhaps there are few out there, (Just like there are a few people who won’t shut up and tell everybody who will listen that soccer is exploding in America, wink, wink.) but I am not one of them. I’m not standing in front of bus full of refugee children screaming at them to go back to their own country. I’m just not a fan of soccer and I am offering facts and some opinions as to way I don’t think soccer is going to take off in America.

    2- I went/saw a soccer game on TV and there were (blank large number of people there.)

    Lots of people go to lots of events. The Indianapolis 500 draws 250,000 people to see it, does that mean Indy Car is exploding in America? No. Wrestlemania events attract tens of thousands of people. Is Wrestlemania exploding in popularity? Heck no.
    What I’m trying to say attendance doesn’t mean the sport is exploding. People like to attend events, not watch them on TV. The Real Madrid-Manchester United game drew a 2.1 TV rating in the Detroit market. For comparison, The Detroit Tigers average a 7.5 TV rating in the Detroit market. Nationally, the game drew a mere 0.9 TV rating.

    Finally, I wasn’t saying that all 109,000 people there were foreigners, I thought more along the line that 40/50,000 of them were.

  69. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 7, 2014 10:16 AM

    Sorry to make you come unglued… not my intention… just tying to make light of the discussion.

    And you’re right…. this conversation should have just ended after the squirrel.

  70. bonnovi says: Aug 7, 2014 11:25 AM

    It wasn’t you, your comments make enough sense and use enough logic to be respectable. It was footballer4ever who made me unglued.

  71. footballer4ever says: Aug 7, 2014 11:27 PM

    bonnovi said:

    GO TEAM USA! I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN! SAY IT WITH ME!
    I BELIEVE!
    I BELIEVE THAT!
    I BELIEVE THAT WE!
    I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!
    I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!
    I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!

    Nice! I am impressed you’ve learnd and chat the US National Football Team chant! Way to go! I must admit for a “soccer hater” , you are are quite knowledgeable unlike ignorant soccer haters out there.

    ___________________________

    bonnovi said:

    “It was footballer4ever who made me unglued”

    If I made you unglued, it only means you are the real pinocchio , not only because you biased use false information/polls, but you are made out of wood! (ROTFLOL)
    _______________________________

  72. bonnovi says: Aug 8, 2014 12:23 PM

    I don’t even care anymore…

  73. footballer4ever says: Aug 8, 2014 5:13 PM

    bonnovi said:

    “I don’t even care anymore…”

    Awwwwwwwww!!!! That sounds just like a bunch of pansy defeated personality which is unbecoming of a “macho American ‘fooball’ ” fan. What a pity!!

    I rest my case. (Wink!)

  74. bonnovi says: Aug 8, 2014 5:37 PM

    Seriously, what’s there left to argue about? I’ve offered all my points and you’ve just trolled in response. You fit the definition of “Obnoxious soccer fan.” to a T.

  75. footballer4ever says: Aug 8, 2014 5:47 PM

    I rest my case. :”-}

  76. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 8, 2014 5:49 PM

    Can’t we just agree to disagree?

  77. footballer4ever says: Aug 8, 2014 5:58 PM

    8to80texansblog said:

    “Can’t we just agree to disagree”

    I agree to disagree; In fact, I’ll agree to disagree if anybody disagrees with my agreement. ;)

  78. fsu01 says: Aug 8, 2014 6:05 PM

    Polls that ask your favorite are not accurate when measuring true popularity. I would rank steak as my favorite food but that does not mean that I don’t enjoy a good pizza.

  79. footballer4ever says: Aug 8, 2014 6:11 PM

    fsu01 said:

    “Polls that ask your favorite are not accurate when measuring true popularity. I would rank steak as my favorite food but that does not mean that I don’t enjoy a good pizza.”

    (Applause!!)

    You heard that, bonnovi- pole, err, poll lover!

  80. bonnovi says: Aug 8, 2014 9:10 PM

    I love Poles, they are my favorite European ethnic group. My entire life and philosophy is based around that of the Polish struggle.

  81. footballer4ever says: Aug 9, 2014 3:52 PM

    bonnovi said:

    “I love Poles, they are my favorite European ethnic group. My entire life and philosophy is based around that of the Polish struggle”

    (Chuckles)

    You are such a Bi-POLar character. (LOL)

  82. bonnovi says: Aug 9, 2014 8:15 PM

    May this officially mark the end of our confrontation.

  83. footballer4ever says: Aug 10, 2014 11:29 AM

    (Chuckles) ok. stop trolling around whenever “soccer” is blurted out

  84. footballer4ever says: Aug 10, 2014 1:04 PM

    8to80texansblog, said :

    “Just remember…. the most posted on topic on CFT right now…. is about soccer.”

    It was not sitting well neither as it was removed from the most talked topics list.

    I am on to the start of English Football on August 16th , 2014 whie I continue to enjoy our own football league, MLS.

  85. bonnovi says: Aug 10, 2014 2:42 PM

    Our football league is the NFL. (LOL) (BIG GRIN)

  86. John Taylor says: Aug 10, 2014 2:51 PM

    Just to clarify: it wasn’t removed from the list because it “was not sitting well. WordPress automatically resets the most commented articles every few days — I think it’s every seven days, but don’t quote me in it.

    If WP didn’t recycle, a Tim Tebow post from 2009, with 222 comments, would still be sitting up top.

  87. bonnovi says: Aug 10, 2014 3:44 PM

    Yeah, I kind of suspected that. If you were the fun killers at ProFootball Talk 60 of these comments would have been deleted.

  88. footballer4ever says: Aug 10, 2014 6:34 PM

    bonnovi said:

    “May this officially mark the end of our confrontation.”

    I guess it was not :-P

    “Our football league is the NFL. (LOL) (BIG GRIN)”

    You mean the No Fun League, or the Not For Literates, league? Ha! okay, different strokes for different folks, so keep on stroking yourself, bonjovi, err, bonnovi. (LOL) (GRIN)

    John Taylor said:

    “If WP didn’t recycle, a Tim Tebow post from 2009, with 222 comments, would still be sitting up top.”

    I’ll take a guess that Tim Tebow’s topic with 222 comments was mostly a bunch of hateful posts towards his persona and/or his beliefs by the “smart-aleck” (keepng it G-rated) individuals more like post tend to follow up when round Football is mentioned in places where normally that would not post.

  89. bonnovi says: Aug 10, 2014 8:38 PM

    To be fair, there are probably way more illiterate soccer fans than football fans…

  90. footballer4ever says: Aug 10, 2014 10:34 PM

    @ bonnovi

    ROTFLOL, thanks for the good laugh. You, jec332 and a few others alike sure bring shame to literate “football fans” out there which i am sure there are some out there, but you would not know any better as fair and/or literate is a foreign concept to you. ROTFLOL

    Suggestion: Think before you speak is a concept you might want to start processing and catching up to, that is only if you can grasp the true meaning of it unless you need a poll to assist you on that. (ROTFLOL)

  91. footballer4ever says: Aug 10, 2014 10:49 PM

    Wake up call for bonnovi and company alike:

  92. footballer4ever says: Aug 10, 2014 11:11 PM

    Or more appropiately suited for bonnovi, jec332 and the infamous minded-like “football fans” characters out there.

  93. bonnovi says: Aug 11, 2014 11:55 AM

    It’s common sense. Since soccer is popular all around the world than that means it is also popular in countries where the literacy rate is struggling.

    It’s not xenophobic. It’s not racist. It’s not anti-immigrant. It’s common sense.

  94. bonnovi says: Aug 11, 2014 11:59 AM

    Here, take a look at this story from The Telegraph. Again, I don’t agree with the content of the story, but if you look in the comments, it’s clear the commentator “brugesinwinter” is the surly, xenophobic Ugly American you’re trying to make me out to be:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11005513/Manchester-United-v-Real-Madrid-109000-sell-out-highlights-extent-of-footballs-breakthrough-into-the-USA.html

  95. footballer4ever says: Aug 11, 2014 5:41 PM

    bonnovi said:

    “It’s common sense. Since soccer is popular all around the world than that means it is also popular in countries where the literacy rate is struggling.

    It’s not xenophobic. It’s not racist. It’s not anti-immigrant. It’s common sense.”

    “Common sense” can be taken as it is convenient to the presenter and “common sense” it’s not as common as you make sound tobe.

    Taking your “common sense” view, it’s common sense there are more literate people around the world than in the United States which also suffers from citizens with literacy issues too (flashing mirror towards you). The fact that FOOTBALL is popular around the world is one thing that is separate from people who are illiterate by other factors and happen to like FOOTBALL or as you call it, “Soccer”. Again, this is a complex topic to dwelve with you and it is more than common sense, but not worth it, to even attempt it. :-P

    Nevertheless, I leave you with a free audiobook by Thomas Paine to entertain you on the topic of “Common Sense” which as 2hrs , 25 minutes and 36 seconds in length.

    Enjoy and gain literacy at the same time! ;-”)

    bonnovi said:

    “it’s clear the commentator “brugesinwinter” is the surly, xenophobic Ugly American you’re trying to make me out to be”

    Don’t know who he is and don’t care, but reading a few lines of that, he’s just a naive fool in my eyes. You , well, let’s say some of your comments have a borderline biased tone, to say the least, which you try to be careful not to sound like that other fool, but in the end, the mouth speaks what is in your heart, or in your case, your fingers type what’s in your polluted heart and mind to type it out.

  96. footballer4ever says: Aug 11, 2014 5:47 PM

    Note: I posted this in a rush before I headed out to work, so do not attempt to find and/or gain “ground” on any grammatical errors as I was not going to proofread before submitting it. :-D

  97. bonnovi says: Aug 11, 2014 8:39 PM

    OK, this has gotten into some weird and clearly not about soccer territory…

    Maybe I am biased against soccer, I don’t like the sport so I could see why you see that. But just because I don’t like the sport doesn’t mean that I am anti-immigrant, xenophobic or racist. I don’t know what opinions, anecdotes or personal experiences I could bring up to change your mind on this, so I won’t bother.

    I am familiar with works of Thomas Paine and do not need to be refreshed.

    As far as I can tell, from your own statements and opinions and opinions towards others, you are self-hating American (Which I thought went out of style once Obama became President.) who would like nothing more than to settle down in a Europe and abandon America altogether. (But, considering the decline in the economy there and the rise in far-right groups, that seems like a pretty terrifying prospect.)

    Also, I am a dyslexic who did not learn to write until the age of 13 so I’m sorry if my “literacy” is not up to your standards.

    Finally, this is the last comment I will be making on this story as we have clearly gone into far too personal waters and there is no point in continuing.

  98. footballer4ever says: Aug 11, 2014 10:43 PM

    bonnovi said:

    “Maybe I am biased against soccer, I don’t like the sport so I could see why you see that. But just because I don’t like the sport doesn’t mean that”

    I can respect anyone not liking the sport. What I can not respect or accept the extra “sauce” added which it’s unnecessary. American sports are not except of their own nuances; Nevertheless, you won’t hear me going out the way to say why it “sucks” or why it’s “boring” like some of you can’t hold their tongues from doing it towards round Football. It’s called respecting what other people like regardless if you do or don’t and if you don’t like it, don’t be condescending and/or offensive to others.

    “As far as I can tell, from your own statements and opinions and opinions towards others, you are self-hating American”

    I am proud to be American, but at the same time, all is not perfect or acceptable just because it has the “American-label” on it and some won’t even take a moment to even analyze it.

    “I am familiar with works of Thomas Paine and do not need to be refreshed.” “Also, I am a dyslexic who did not learn to write until the age of 13 so I’m sorry if my “literacy” is not up to your standards”

    See how easy it is to be the one dishing out the condescending comments and how it made you feel? That was done on purpose because that’s how “soccer-haters” or soccer-dislikers talk/behave.

    “Finally, this is the last comment I will be making on this story as we have clearly gone into far too personal waters and there is no point in continuing.”

    I will extend my sincere apology as I did not intend to offend you. In fact, you have been intellectually entertaining to discuss this topic even if it seemed having gone into personal waters and still disagree . I give you credit for being different unlike dumb fools who seem to repeat old-out of style comments.

    Sincerely,

    Footballer4ever.

  99. bonnovi says: Aug 11, 2014 11:22 PM

    Thank you for your apology. I just started to feel that you were entering into the annoying old argument that Americans who like football and/or dislike soccer are backwards rednecks (I don’t know if it that’s true or not. I was just getting that feeling.)

    Regardless, may we spar again one day when a story about soccer appears on a college football blog.

  100. jec332 says: Aug 11, 2014 11:28 PM

    Footballer4ever,

    I think bonnovi is being too nice. Soccer is boring. If you don’t like that people feel the need to add that, then follow a sport with less skinny jeans type men playing.

    I’m not taking it personal, but I’m definitely not apologizing for letting you know that the sport will never make it here. Thankfully.

  101. footballer4ever says: Aug 11, 2014 11:42 PM

    jec332,

    Fools will be fools and that is where you belong. Your previous statement about Miami being a town with nothing to do, (chuckles), well, that says enough about you. Think whatever you want, in the end, your meaningless thoughts and feelings make no difference. As far as bonnovi goes, at least he’s smarter than what you have attempted to portray and I am not apologizing for what is thruthful. ;-”P

  102. footballer4ever says: Aug 11, 2014 11:50 PM

    “Thank you for your apology. I just started to feel that you were entering into the annoying old argument that Americans who like football and/or dislike soccer are backwards rednecks (I don’t know if it that’s true or not. I was just getting that feeling.)”

    I make sure not to act/behave as I would not want people to behave towards me. Therefore, any racial tones/expressions/stereotypes is not something I play with as it does not good to behave like an ignorant fool.

    Have a great day and enjoy your soon to arrive college football season.

  103. jec332 says: Aug 12, 2014 12:59 AM

    You’re not apologizing for what is “thruthful”, huh?

    It’s a good thing you’re here to tell us all about intelligence.

    Miami is a city for fair-weather fans. Your joke of a fan base that follow the Miami heat is a great example. Miami is also unique in that it’s mostly spanish speaking. You might as well be in a foreign country.

    If you have nothing better to do than watch soccer, then Miami must really be a boring place. Let’s be serious. It’s a sport for feminine men like yourself that like to end posts with things like “ROTFLOL”, “(Wink!), and (BIG GRIN.)

    You say that these posts don’t matter to you, but here you are having argued for DAYS with bonnovi. You obviously care what people think about your sport. You’re wanting acceptance of soccer and saying people that don’t are ignorant. You’re also making claims that it’s now popular, which is of course absurd. I don’t want you to like football. Football is the best sport, and we need the best fans. You stay over with soccer.

  104. footballer4ever says: Aug 12, 2014 1:13 AM

  105. bonnovi says: Aug 14, 2014 12:25 AM

    Thank God, this has finally ended…

  106. footballer4ever says: Aug 14, 2014 10:39 PM

    …says who?… It ain’t over till it’s over. :-”D

  107. bonnovi says: Aug 15, 2014 7:54 PM

    …And it’s over.

  108. John Taylor says: Aug 15, 2014 7:57 PM

    “FUTBOL SUCKS, AMERICAN FOOTBALL RULEZ!!!”

  109. bonnovi says: Aug 15, 2014 10:43 PM

    YOU SAID IT, BRO! HERE’S TO AMERICA! AND FOOTBALL! AND AMERICAN FOOTBALL! USA! USA! USA!

  110. John Taylor says: Aug 15, 2014 10:52 PM

    (I laughed way, way, way too much at this response, especially as I actually enjoy watching soccer and can appreciate the skill involved.)

    U-S-A!!! REAL FOOTBALL RULEZ!!! F FUT AND BOL, GIMME FOOT AND BALL WHEN IT COMES IT COMES TO A MINDSET THAT IGNORES THE REST OF THE SPORTING WORLD!!!

  111. bonnovi says: Aug 15, 2014 11:35 PM

    They say there is no better gift than the gift of a college football blog editor/writer’s laughter.

    And with that, I officially resign from these comments (Well, maybe. Anything’s possible.)

  112. bonnovi says: Aug 17, 2014 5:25 PM

    I now officially close the book on these comments. *closes book*

  113. John Taylor says: Aug 17, 2014 6:58 PM

    Are you sure? There might be some signs of life here.

  114. bonnovi says: Aug 17, 2014 7:37 PM

    Nope, there hasn’t been a comment that hasn’t been by you or I in 3 days. Unless you want to start talking about your day-to-day life and other random anecdotes I think it’s over.

  115. John Taylor says: Aug 17, 2014 9:54 PM

    Over? Did you say over? Nothing is over until we decide it is. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! And it ain’t over now!

  116. footballer4ever says: Aug 17, 2014 10:40 PM

    bonnovi,

    Are you back to your misbehaving ways, but now is with John Taylor? :-D
    ___________________________________

    It came to me like an epiphany on the real meaning of Football-haters (soccer) exist and their need to spit venom to the sport of football or anyone who follows the sport.

    “soccer-haters” care or worry so much for a sport which in their eyes is “boring” or not worth it or all the reasons thrown out there. It has the reasons of simply sheer insecurity or threatened feelings that a sport which they don’t approve of can be accepted/appreciated by others living in the same country.

    The need to shove your anti-”soccer” biased sentiment to others who don’t feel/think like you is quite a contradictive stance when you are the same ones who cry “don’t shove soccer down our throats” when you can simply ignore it/turn off the tv. Nevertheless, trying to be a hateful “presence” and/or to be a “forceful influence” to discourage others from finding a liking or appreciation to a sport that is not “American” among other subliminally biased reasons confirm there is a real VALUE hence the constant need to devalue it. That does not only apply to football, but any outside sport who attempts to take roots on these grounds. I am sure cricket and rugby would go thru the same growing pains as football has had to overcome, but cricket and rugby are a distant threat to the American sports landscape status quo; Therefore, they are not regarded as much.

    The difference lies in the worldwide popular sporting event called Football World Cup which is the epitomy football showcase tournament which helps expose and grow the sport further than what it already is around the world. After that, the sport continues to evolve in each continent with their own national football leagues/ tournaments like the most popular league after the world cup, The Champions League.

    Unlike some football fans who announce/predict football will overtake American “football” one day, I really don’t care if it does or not because the most important thing is that it finds solid roots among the first 3 sport in this country which is a realistic scenario/goal within due given time to develop. I will let you figure out which of the other two sports in danger I may be referring about.

    Having said that and then some, if it’s not worth it then don’t worry about it because it will fall on its own. Just don’t be that type of insecure boyfriend going around telling your girlfriend why you are such a good catch and not to look at other guys out there because they are the boring type. That is the closest and more real example of how some of you behave like in real life more like you do towards football, world football that is.

    Long live football! ;-”)

  117. footballer4ever says: Aug 17, 2014 10:48 PM

    @ John Taylor

    Thanks for being a moderator who does not deliberately erases posts who might have a different point of view than the majority in this blog “room”.

  118. John Taylor says: Aug 18, 2014 8:41 AM

    Variety, especially in sports, is an underrated thing. I love real football (:-)) more than any other, but love watching soccer, NASCAR and golf as well. There’s room enough for everything in my little corner of the sporting world.

  119. bonnovi says: Aug 18, 2014 11:17 AM

    Ha, ha! You like NASCAR, Redneck! (See? I can be unreasonably biased against sports that are as American as they come!)

  120. bonnovi says: Aug 20, 2014 12:02 PM

    Did I scare everyone off?

  121. bonnovi says: Aug 24, 2014 8:27 PM

    Remember that time there was a really long argument over soccer? Good times…

  122. footballer4ever says: Nov 20, 2014 11:23 AM

    Woo hoo! I am back!! ;-)

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