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WVU’s Holgorsen says lying to recruits is part of the recruiting process

Dana Holgorsen

As college football fans we always assume the recruiting game involves some lies, fabrications and exaggerations when serving up those sales pitches to recruits taking a look at a college football program on a silver platter. Every coach probably bends the truth where they can while putting on a good face for the program and university. We accept it as a part of the process, but we rarely get a coach on the record admitting that is exactly what happens.

Enter West Virginia head coach Dana Holgorsen, who held nothing back today while talking to the media.

Holgorsen is known to spit truth and tell it like it is, which is why he has my respect. This is no different from what we have come to expect from Holgorsen. Still, it may not be something the head coach of a program coming off its first losing season since 2001 may want to admit out in the open. But cover up those lies with flashy and stylish uniforms and all will be forgiven, right? That is what maters most in recruiting, it seems.

Never change, Holgo. Never change.

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31 Responses to “WVU’s Holgorsen says lying to recruits is part of the recruiting process”
  1. outlaw53 says: Aug 11, 2014 1:00 PM

    You couldn’t expect Holgorsen to tell a recruit, ” Hey, WVU will never win a NC in your lifetime…”

  2. Hard On For Harden says: Aug 11, 2014 1:04 PM

    Not surprising. While at Texas State, current Rice coach David Bailiff called my friend and offered him a full scholarship, mixing him up with another player on the team. He called the next day to revoke the “offer”. Par for the course I guess.

  3. ironheadjr says: Aug 11, 2014 1:28 PM

    Holgy admits filth like this and then people wonder why he’s on the hotseat…

  4. cubano76 says: Aug 11, 2014 1:45 PM

    Is he wrong? I hate his hair as much as the next guy, but he has the wooblies to tell the truth. Wow

  5. thefiesty1 says: Aug 11, 2014 1:46 PM

    I don’t think I’d admit that if I were in his shoes.

  6. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 11, 2014 2:07 PM

    cubano76 says:
    Aug 11, 2014 1:45 PM

    Is he wrong? I hate his hair as much as the next guy, but he has the wooblies to tell the truth. Wow
    ______________________

    If that statement doesn’t just scream irony… I don’t know what does…

  7. southernpatriots says: Aug 11, 2014 2:14 PM

    thefiesty1: Ditto.

    Back in the 1980s, a computer salesman came by my office to sell me computers, which he emphasized would eliminate all the paperwork that I had rooms of file cabinets to contain at that point. My nurses loved the idea as did my secretaries. I was a skeptic, but the idea of not buying more file cabinets, expanding the office to contain the new rooms of files which had to be maintained on every patient, etc. won me over.

    A few decades later when I had new rooms and more than a dozen double file cabinets to contain the paperwork generated from computers, I would like to find that computer salesman and wring his neck! I guess some recruited athletes feel the same way toward some of their coaches and recruiters.

    I can’t wait until football begins, so we can discuss that rather than all these tangents.

    I am ready for some……F-O-O-T-B-A-L-L!

  8. iwishwvuwouldbeatbama says: Aug 11, 2014 2:17 PM

    Big harry ones Dana. You think these recruits do not know they are being sold a perfect picture of a program. The truth is WVU is flawed not nearly perfect, but we are building towards greatness!

  9. iwishwvuwouldbeatbama says: Aug 11, 2014 2:18 PM

    Big hairy ones Dana. You think these recruits do not know they are being sold a perfect picture of a program. The truth is WVU is flawed not nearly perfect, but we are building towards greatness!

  10. noaxetogrind says: Aug 11, 2014 2:32 PM

    For those of us in the business, we would expect nothing less from Dana. Has never been concerned about what other people think and has never had much of an understanding of the value of people simply for who they are as opposed to what they can do for him. Dana does not speak for all coaches. There are plenty who don’t lie during recruiting. This man’s track record when it comes to integrity stands on its own merits and is a matter of public record.

  11. drummerhoff says: Aug 11, 2014 2:33 PM

    Dentists go to weekend seminars to learn how to sell themselves.

    Have you ever met a University President? The first thing you notice is how polished they are … Because they are there to fundraise.

    Hats off to Holgerson for telling like it is. His honestly will be rewarded on the recruiting trial.

  12. inconsonance says: Aug 11, 2014 2:50 PM

    Dana Holgorsen is a proud alumnus of the Mike Leach School of Giving Zero Fucks. He should be commended for being totally honest despite the increasing warmth under his ass.

    To me, being a coach on the recruiting trail is akin to being a car salesman or a hooker/escort. To sell a car, you appeal to the buyer’s ego telling him about all the ass he can get in that fine automobile. An escort or hooker is selling not only the ego boost but also the fantasy that the john is the best she’s ever had.

    Coaches? I’d guess it’s predominantly pushing the idea of playing time and how valuable a player can be to the team. More ego-stroking with some line about how the prospect is just what they need to go all the way that season. Though selling sex isn’t really NCAA-friendly, I imagine that having access to a bevy of hot 18 – 22 year old coeds is casually referenced a few times.

    Sleazy as it all may be, it’s just business.

  13. wvuandsteelers says: Aug 11, 2014 3:03 PM

    His biggest lie: Sure, I’ll be your coach next year.

  14. auburntigers34 says: Aug 11, 2014 3:27 PM

    he should be commended for his honesty about lying?

    he may lie to recruits, but there are plenty of coaches that don’t lie during the recruiting process.

    what’s the point of telling a bunch of obvious lies to a recruit? it’s not like they can’t transfer once they see that they’ve been misled.

  15. mauldawg says: Aug 11, 2014 3:36 PM

    auburntigers, Coaches at Auburn don’t lie!! Get your head out of the sand!!

  16. squackduckhawk says: Aug 11, 2014 3:49 PM

    Auburn coaches don’t lie. If they say they are gonna give your daddy’s church a $200,000 facelift, you get it.

  17. irishlad19 says: Aug 11, 2014 4:10 PM

    Well, let’s face it–if I’m trying to talk a kid into going to WV University I’d probably have to lie since there’s no other reason to go there.

  18. musketmaniac says: Aug 11, 2014 4:38 PM

    He probably confused lying at the recruiting table with lying at the poker table. either way he’s on his way out. And who left the Notre dame fans in. with their 0-4 bcs record those weak irish F..KS do not belong here.

  19. auburntigers34 says: Aug 11, 2014 4:47 PM

    squackduckhawk says:
    Aug 11, 2014 3:49 PM

    Funny coming from a fan of a program that paid for Willie Lyles’ “services”….and Lache Seastrunk.

  20. auburntigers34 says: Aug 11, 2014 4:52 PM

    Recruits talk to players on their visits, look at depth charts, talk to other recruits that are being recruited by the same programs, etc.

    The smart/better coaches know that there isn’t any point in lying to recruits and those same head coaches are probably coaching at programs that pretty much sell themselves. Dana Holgerson doesn’t fall into this category.

  21. brownsmakemecrazy says: Aug 11, 2014 6:05 PM

    This guy looks like a liar. Maybe that’s why you are at WV and not at an elite program. This ought to help your credibility when you get canned.

  22. brownsmakemecrazy says: Aug 11, 2014 6:06 PM

    Tomorrow he will announce his words were misunderstood, or taken out of context, and misrepresented

  23. Romulus says: Aug 11, 2014 7:57 PM

    That’s my process!
    -Nick Saban

  24. buzzterz says: Aug 11, 2014 9:04 PM

    Mr. Franklin of Happy Valley and all his boys and parents should read this closely. Holgorsen was talking about Franklin.

  25. TheEliotz says: Aug 11, 2014 9:26 PM

    These comments seem to come down to whether the commenter likes Holgs or not rather than the topic. For the guy who said “there are plenty coaches who don’t lie when recruiting”, you’ve clearly never been recruited. For the guy who questioned Dana being “commended for his honesty about lying” you fail to realize that they are talking about a no BS guy who considers embellishing or exaggerating as lying. In the opinion of Dana Holgorsen, you are telling a lie when you paint a positive picture of how great life is at a school as a football player and how the staff will make sure they get their degree (wink wink), “albeit you still have to do the work son”, and how they (head coach) and their position coach will be like the father they never had, and how all kinds of great things will come their way, etc. etc.. In the mind of some, these are all lies. In the eyes of others, these are all true, but embellished. So for those who say there are plenty of honest coaches who don’t lie on the recruiting trail, they must first define what they mean by a lie. Either way they would most often be wrong unless they were talking about Holgs. Like him or not he does not BS the press like so many well liked, popular, and oh yes, “honest” college coaches.

  26. musketmaniac says: Aug 11, 2014 9:34 PM

    Brownie, Wvu may not be an elite school, although we do own the best bcs record in college football. Maybe it’s time to redefine elite.

  27. iwishwvuwouldbeatbama says: Aug 12, 2014 1:03 AM

    Dana is not going anywhere, in a few years we will be a 9-10 win team again and everyone who is calling for his head will be singing the blues when he leaves us for a school who pays him more and gives him unlimited redbull.

  28. captainrick2285 says: Aug 12, 2014 11:19 AM

    Hey Irish. You are forgetting that WVU is the number one party school in the nation…..Because there is nothing else to do in the mountains.

  29. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 12, 2014 12:34 PM

    musketmaniac says:
    Aug 11, 2014 9:34 PM

    Brownie, Wvu may not be an elite school, although we do own the best bcs record in college football. Maybe it’s time to redefine elite.
    ______________________________

    Boise St. has the highest total win percentage in the BCS era…. I doubt anyone would call them elite right now….

    I also doubt Bama would trade their 3-3 BCS Bowl record for your 3-0 record, considering they are 3-0 in BCS Title games…

  30. musketmaniac says: Aug 12, 2014 3:36 PM

    captainrick, they do party a little in Morgantown. I should know I’ve owned two bar on campus. However we do not have any mountains in West Virginia they are all hills.

  31. dhardy8207 says: Aug 15, 2014 2:42 PM

    Romulus says:Aug 11, 2014 7:57 PM

    That’s my process!
    -Nick Saban

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    Wwwwyyyyy…. You just can’t shake the hate can ya?…LOL…. Its really not healthy to keep to hold on to all that envy….

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