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Braxton Miller was ‘good not great’, expectations shouldn’t change

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The Ohio State Buckeyes were considered the favorites to win a Big Ten championship this season prior to quarterback Braxton Miller re-injuring his throwing shoulder.

Despite the injury, some coaches around the nation feel the Buckeyes will be just as dangerous without Miller in the lineup.

“Some offenses can survive it fine if there’s a great supporting cast,” an unnamed coach from the West Coast told’s Jeremy Fowler. “I don’t think Miller is a great player. Good but not great.”

The sentiment within the Big Ten Conference may not have echoed the previous statement, but Michigan’s Brady Hoke made it pretty clear how the team from Ohio should proceed.

“Never change your expectations,” Hoke said. “Next man must step up.”

Hoke may have felt “terrible” for Miller, but he also knows the Buckeyes are still talented on offense and redshirt sophomore J.T. Barrett can lead Ohio State to a Big Ten title. The Buckeyes may not operate the same way without Miller leading the offense, but the team can adjust the scheme to take advantage of Barrett’s talents as a quarterback.

“In most cases you would have to change some strategy,” another unnamed coach stated.

Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer is considering upping the tempo of the offense. The faster the Buckeyes operate, the better Barrett can be starting in Miller’s stead.

“Style of play [has to change] — one example is Oregon when they lost [Dennis] Dixon and didn’t have that type behind him,” another coach said.

Of course, the Buckeyes would have been better with Miller in the lineup. He was a legitimate Heisman hopeful. Over the pass three seasons, Miller threw for 5,292 yards, ran for 3,054 yards and contributed 83 total touchdowns.

But Miller had his faults too. Miller was considered a “very streaky” passer. The Buckeyes’ previous backup quarterback, Kenny Guiton, was far more efficient with the football when he filled in for an injured Miller.

Meyer has compared Barrett’s play to Guiton’s.

The benefit for Ohio State is the injury happened so early in the process. Barrett has received the bulk of first-team repetitions during fall camp. Barrett has yet to be officially named the Buckeyes’ starter to open the season, but he’ll be ready for Navy Aug. 30.

And Barrett enters the season knowing expectations won’t change in Columbus just because Miller is injured and out for the season.

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37 Responses to “Braxton Miller was ‘good not great’, expectations shouldn’t change”
  1. jec332 says: Aug 23, 2014 6:22 PM

    Wow, the buckeyes really throw their wounded under the bus. He gets injured and the unnamed coach, most likely buckeye, not says he’s good not great.

    Pay attention, recruits. This is Columbus loyalty. You’re a buckeye as long as you don’t get injured…

    I’m not sure what I feel worse about, the fact that Braxton got injured or that he has to play for that fan base.

  2. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Aug 23, 2014 6:29 PM

    @ jec332:

    Click the link and read the article. It clearly states the author polled 25 head coaches from other teams. Nobody at tOSU threw Braxton under the bus.

  3. jrs45 says: Aug 23, 2014 7:12 PM


    Are you PSU fan???

  4. vols84 says: Aug 23, 2014 8:00 PM

    Is Urban going to retire again with heart issues and longing to “spend time with the family” after losing Miller?

  5. jimmy53 says: Aug 23, 2014 8:22 PM

    This is obvious to anyone who isn’t an OSU fan—he has never been the best pocket passer—and at some point WHEN YOU PLAY REAL COMPETITION you will need to be accurate from the pocket. An accurate passer could have been the difference in the conference title game and the bowl game….

  6. adambruce88 says: Aug 23, 2014 9:05 PM

    jimmy 53, on one point i’ll agree. it took three years for the Buckeyes to play REAL COMPETITION. truth be known it was never the offense that plagued the Buckeyes, its defense was terrible. they keep their ranking because of the cupcakes they play and should have no problem winning 11 games this year. if they played in the SEC or PAC they’d struggle to become bowl eligible.

  7. brownsmakemecrazy says: Aug 23, 2014 10:28 PM

    Lol of course the West coach is 100 percent correct. Amazing how many ignorant fans and coaches are in the Little 14.

    Braxton Miller was a zero threat in the passing game. 6 for 21 v Michigan State. Lol. I mean gee thats hard to replace.

  8. dkhhuey says: Aug 23, 2014 10:46 PM

    Don’t care what some other coach classified Braxton as – I’ll take him every day of the week as the Buckeye’s starting QB!!!

  9. jrs45 says: Aug 23, 2014 10:47 PM


    You would be the expert with QBs. I mean your team has had 20+ starting QBs since 1999 right. I’ve never met a Browns fan from Alabama before.

  10. thraiderskin says: Aug 23, 2014 11:19 PM

    haha… jec332 can’t read.

  11. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Aug 24, 2014 12:28 AM

    @ brownsmakemecrazy:

    In 2013 Braxton completed 63.5% of his passes for 2094 yards and 24 TDs. He rushed for 1068 yards with a 6.2 yards per carry average and scored 12 TDs. He finished in the top 10 Heisman voting 2 years in a row. Not bad for a QB in any conference. He was injured early in the season and injured again later on and still had a good year. Troll on Mr. brownsmakemecrazy.

  12. cedaly1968 says: Aug 24, 2014 12:59 AM

    If Miller played in 2014 and had an “average” year compared to the 3 he has already played here, he would be 2nd in all-time rushing yards at Ohio State. Yes, SECOND, behind Archie Griffin, the only 2-time Heisman trophy winner. Yes,he would have MORE rushing yards than Eddie George, another Ohio State Heisman trophy winner. Miller has the highest 3rd and long completion percentage of any QB in the country last year – better than Winston, Manziel and other QB’s. 24 TD’s last year and just shy of 2100 passing yards and 1100 rushing yards. Yeah… he’s a pretty good QB. The problem for Miller is that if the Buckeyes go 7,8,9,10 wins in a weak Big10, it would be hard to replace the next starting quarterback at Ohio State with the previous one for just one season. Sad way to see an All-American and Heisman Trophy candidate go.

  13. brownsmakemecrazy says: Aug 24, 2014 6:14 AM

    They will still have the same record because they play such a cupcake schedule. They will be 11-1 and still lose to the only decent team they play all year @ Michigan State. Same ole Suckeyes. Smash the cupcakes and lose to decent teams. It’s the same script every year.

  14. brownsmakemecrazy says: Aug 24, 2014 6:15 AM


    Stop stalking me punk. Cease and desist. You have been warned.

  15. jrs45 says: Aug 24, 2014 9:08 AM


    The inbred has spoken. Be aware everyone!

  16. chumthumper says: Aug 24, 2014 9:08 AM

    Isn’t this the same Urban Meyer who wanted to stop offenses from playing quick tempo?

  17. polegojim says: Aug 24, 2014 9:57 AM

    I actually agree with that statement… but would add ‘very good’ not great.

  18. dkhhuey says: Aug 24, 2014 9:59 AM

    No – that would be Bert and Nick from the SEC that want to slow down the tempo. Urban, on the other hand, is looking to speed it up even more.

  19. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Aug 24, 2014 10:17 AM

    @ brownsmakemecrazy:

    I’m not stalking you. You are stalking tOSU and the B1G. You aren’t a Buckeye or B1G fan, but respond to virtually every article concerning them. Stop writing trash and I won’t have to try to correct what you say.

  20. andrewpatron says: Aug 24, 2014 10:19 AM

    I’m reading jec332 ‘s comment. This is the problem with our education system. It says a west coast coach says he was not great. Ohio State is not in the West thus the mentioned coach is obviously not a Buckeye coach. I wonder if there are any schools West of Ohio that might have a football program with, I don’t know, “coaches…”

  21. brownsmakemecrazy says: Aug 24, 2014 10:25 AM

    Stalker boy aka brutussuckeye2011:

    When Suckeye State and the Little 14 stop getting overhyped then I’ll stop ripping them.

  22. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Aug 24, 2014 10:41 AM

    @ brownsmakemecrazy:

    Here is a link especially for you:

  23. dmarado says: Aug 24, 2014 11:01 AM

    The Ohio State hate is strong on CFT. Miller made plays when the Buckeyes needed them, does that make him good or great? I don’t know. What I do know is that the team has to get used to another guy making the calls and that’s going to take time. Hate them all you want, your team hasn’t had the run since 2000 the Buckeyes have had, but you got hate going for you, which is nice.

  24. barkleyblows says: Aug 24, 2014 12:04 PM

    He’s a great athlete.

    Inconsistent passer.

  25. jrs45 says: Aug 24, 2014 1:08 PM


    How is he stalking you while this is a Ohio State article??? Smh moron!

  26. superhowie55 says: Aug 24, 2014 1:13 PM

    I have one thing to the buckeye haters.

  27. cincyfredo says: Aug 24, 2014 1:35 PM

    ESPN made it sound like B. Miller was the next Tom Brady. Miller was just ok. He is on a very good team. Almost any Div1 QB could come to Bucknuts right now and Bucknuts would go no worse than 10-2 with their cupcake schedule and the strength of the Big 10/12/14 or whatever they are.
    Agree 100% that Miller is not a great QB.
    Bucknut Nation will always see everything with those scarlet eyes.
    Go Bearcats … and thank you Bucnuts for that $1 million extra cash just for Cincy to drive up 71 rather than Bucknuts bus down state ….

  28. oldforester says: Aug 24, 2014 3:24 PM

    After reading these posts and being an ex-Ohioan I finally realized why OSU is so disliked. Its the “t”. the, tOSU. Yes THE Ohio State has had great football teams and tradition. But, that little “t” is really a stick that pushes their nose up. It isn’t the team or their weak schedule, its the fact that many fans and alumni are so “affected”. Definition of affected: “assuming or pretending to possess that which is not natural.” In other words, you take your rightfully earned pride in your school and push it to a level of arrogance. And that little “t” pushes your nose up so that you think you can look down on everyone. No one likes people who are pompous.

  29. barkleyblows says: Aug 24, 2014 3:24 PM

    Boy I thought Wesconsen fans were bad…. Now Cincinnati?!? Really?!?

  30. jrs45 says: Aug 24, 2014 6:37 PM

    Awww Cincinnati. That’s cute.

  31. cwjim says: Aug 24, 2014 8:45 PM

    He was the only guy to throw for 2000 and run for 1000 out of a big 5 conference and missed 3+ games. He only had a QB rating of 158, though….

    He played against the best defense in the country(by most accounts) and put up 250 yards and 3 tds. His offense put up more points than any of the other 4 ranked teams they played, including number 5 Stanford.

    He has finished in the top 10 in Heisman voting twice, despite injury problems both years, and this coach thinks he is “Good, not great”? Hate OSU all you want, but if you don’t think Braxton Miller is a great player, you are sadly mistaken.

    I was born a Buckeye fan, and can remember back to about 80, but remember everything since 84, and I can tell you that I wouldn’t have picked another guy I ever saw play for us to lead us in 2014. As of right now, maybe I would call Troy Smith or Bobby Hoying or Pryor or Schlister the best QB I saw at OSU, but given a senior season, I think Miller becomes the best.

  32. bigbuckeye76 says: Aug 24, 2014 9:54 PM

    I don’t really care who is the QB….the defense play is far more important to the season.

  33. dmvtransplant says: Aug 25, 2014 9:48 AM

    My grandmother could play QB at tOSU and still win 10 games during the regular season.

    How hard is it to hand off the ball to a RB, that get’s holes in blocking you could drive a truck through?

    How hard is it to over-throw a 3-4 star WR that always catches it anyway?

    How hard is it to tuck it and run against Purdue, Indiana, Minnesota, i.e. and gain 10-15 yards each time?

    That’s like saying it must have been hard playing QB for USC a decade ago, because there wasn’t alot of talent on the team and you were asked to win the games, by yourself.

  34. jrs45 says: Aug 25, 2014 10:11 AM


    Well let’s sign the old hag up then. Hopefully she doesn’t need a dmv transplant like you did.

  35. revrn2 says: Aug 25, 2014 1:43 PM

    While it’s true ohio plays a weak schedule, ohio school for the blind and all before the conference schedule. They will struggle to win 7 this year w/o miller. Defense is still suspect.

  36. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 25, 2014 4:40 PM

    dmarado says:
    Aug 24, 2014 11:01 AM

    The Ohio State hate is strong on CFT

    No stronger than the SEC hate….

  37. 8to80texansblog says: Aug 25, 2014 5:05 PM

    “Give him a mask and he will tell you the truth”
    -Oscar Wilde

    The truth is… I agree with ‘Unnamed Coach’. Miller is a very good player and a good QB. Not great. He’s no Mariota or Winston.

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