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Report: Penn State could have bowl ban lifted… in 2015

The NCAA has already turned over lost scholarships to Penn State, and now it could be looking into lifting the postseason ban a little early as well.

The Sporting News cites a pair of sources with NCAA ties and reports Penn State could see the postseason ban lifted before the 2015 season, making the Nittany Lions eligible for a bowl game (and Big Ten Championship Game) starting next season. Per The Sporting News;

Two sources within the NCAA say Penn State, if it continues to “reach and go beyond” benchmarks set by the NCAA in the aftermath of the Jerry Sandusky scandal, will have a “strong case” to get its final year of postseason probation lifted.

As early as next week, George Mitchell, Penn State’s athletics integrity monitor, will release his second annual report on the state of the university’s athletics programs. The NCAA last year restored some scholarships after Mitchell’s first report that, according to one NCAA source, “reached well beyond expectations.”

The NCAA left the door open for this possibility last summer when the organization decided to reward Penn State for its efforts in adhering to guidelines set-up by the NCAA following the release of the Louis Freeh Report, the investigation into Penn State’s handling and response to the crimes of former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky. The NCAA had George Mitchell assigned to check up and report on progress being made at Penn State over the course of the sanction period, and his recommendations have been helpful in influencing the NCAA’s handling of Penn State. That the NCAA would now be considering lifting the final year of the bowl ban is not much of a surprise, given the precedent already set during this unprecedented sequence.

Prior to the 2012 season Penn State was issued a four-year postseason ban, as well as stripped of scholarships, victories and issued a $60 million fine. The NCAA has been mixed up in various legal battles related to the punishment to Penn State ever since as well.

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  1. lbijake says: Aug 27, 2014 5:19 PM

    That would be well deserved. They deserve to go to a bowl game based on the play on the field.

  2. derekgorgonstar says: Aug 27, 2014 5:59 PM

    Well…..I guess those victims can just go to hell then. Football is more important than they ever were.

    Do people have the common decency to be ashamed about anything anymore?

  3. barkleyblows says: Aug 27, 2014 6:04 PM

    Ped State

  4. smokybandit says: Aug 27, 2014 6:21 PM

    Next year? They’ll be in a bowl this year.

  5. eidolon21 says: Aug 27, 2014 6:57 PM

    Derek Moron The victim that was raped at Michigan by the punter that U o M ignored for three years???
    Where should she go!!!
    Asshat!

  6. eidolon21 says: Aug 27, 2014 6:57 PM

    everybody knows

    Barkley Blows

  7. goldendome14 says: Aug 27, 2014 6:58 PM

    Please tell me what the kids ON The Team did wrong in 2011??? The victims were of a criminal offense and Sandusky and coverup administrators were the defendants..Not the team members or Joppa who got allegation news and reported it to the weasels…

  8. jec332 says: Aug 27, 2014 7:16 PM

    Derek, you’re a Michigan fan. No wonder you’re mad. Enough said.

    Let’s go Penn State!

  9. kando53 says: Aug 27, 2014 7:20 PM

    The only thing that pisses me off about this is that it has taken this long for the average responder to back the football team. The football team as a whole never did anything wrong, and has long been one of the more respectable well known programs in the country. Yes, what happened was despicable, but penalize the people who were actually involved in it, not the kids.

  10. jfkelly1 says: Aug 27, 2014 7:31 PM

    Well deserved, Derek and blows should be ashamed for continuing living with hate.

  11. jimmy53 says: Aug 27, 2014 8:08 PM

    The NCAA is a joke. If you make a decision have the balls to stick with it.

    Oh, and PSU fans save me the “the players didn’t do anything wrong” argument”—have we changed how the NCAA works? Are programs no longer penalized for their coaches/employees actions?

    That’s how it works. PSU as an organization failed in a way that no other program has–they should suck it up and take their medicine.

    And before you scream “homerism,” I have nothing against your team–Franklin is a good coach, and your team is headed in the right direction, but what your employees and coaches did was wrong, and you should pay the price.

    When your punishment is over then you should be welcomed back with open arms.

  12. eidolon21 says: Aug 27, 2014 9:14 PM

    so your position is the NCAA should punish the innocent. It is and always was a criminal issue for the courts to handle. Sandusky is convicted. The NCAA knows they overstepped and this is their chicken sh** way of saving face without admitting their error.

  13. tigersfandan says: Aug 27, 2014 9:37 PM

    derekgorgonstar says:
    Aug 27, 2014 5:59 PM
    Well…..I guess those victims can just go to hell then. Football is more important than they ever were.

    Do people have the common decency to be ashamed about anything anymore?
    ____________________________________

    Baloney. How are the victims helped by the bowl ban? In fact, how were they helped by any of the NCAA sanctions? This ban is just another example of how Mark Emmert is an awful President.

  14. yawkey25 says: Aug 27, 2014 10:24 PM

    That would be well deserved even if it’s years too late. Plenty of evidence now to show Penn State should have been more patient actually and let the media control this by placing blame on themselves before learning the facts. People like MATT Sandusky now are out there lying about this and making millions pretending to have been molested. It’s sick and people should really learn what happened. Like the victim named unknown victim who was seen being molested by a penn state janitor 5 weeks before that janitor was even hired by Penn State. Sandusky did some things wrong that’s for sure but there are also some “victims” who had nothing done to them that made millions off of this by lying. It is what it is tho, Sandusky still has a sickness even if what he did wasn’t near as bad as initially reported which we now know. There’s nothing to be done about the organizations from the late 90’s who knew about this and did nothing to stop it then and how they covered their asses instead of it even becoming a penn state problem. So now the whole thing is where it is, most people in this country have no clue about any of this and really only a few people know what actually happened but one thing I know is none of these kids knew a damn thing about whatever did or didn’t happen and they shouldn’t be punished for it. Penn state is an AMAZING place and should be celebrated for its greatness. A place where students got together last year and raised 12 million dollars for children with cancer!!! More than any other student group IN THR WORLD!!! PSU forever, lift the ban already it’s already a couple years too late

  15. scbaby2013 says: Aug 28, 2014 1:04 AM

    Hope they don’t lift pen state sanctions since they didn’t do the same for USC seeing that the kids who had nothing to do with Reggie bush never played in a bowl. NCAA is a joke and this just proves it

  16. steeler1nation says: Aug 28, 2014 1:18 AM

    Joe knew.

  17. eagles512 says: Aug 28, 2014 1:30 AM

    Good for them

  18. tommy57 says: Aug 28, 2014 6:53 AM

    This was always a criminal matter. It was never a sports matter. The NCAA continues to search for its own relevance.

  19. cubano76 says: Aug 28, 2014 8:03 AM

    The entire thing just sucks.

  20. kosarkid says: Aug 28, 2014 8:05 AM

    Really Yawkey?

  21. ellieat says: Aug 28, 2014 8:51 AM

    Your victim comments are old and tired, if anyone’s a victim it’s penn state people for having to listen to this never ending bullshit. Please not people who survive rape- we like to be called survivors and not victims.

  22. novasportsfan says: Aug 28, 2014 8:55 AM

    They should lift the bowl ban. The situation did not involve improper recruiting, or payments and extra benefits to players. Yes Penn State should have done more but you can’t hold it against these players for what happened 13 years ago.

  23. tallygal says: Aug 28, 2014 11:52 AM

    Before this scandal, Penn State had never had an offense punishable by the NCAA in any sport. There was never cheating to gain advantage on other schools — which is what the NCAA is charged with punishing. There were complaints about the NCAA ignoring cheating so Emmert jumped on the most visible affront to improve their image, and set a precedent (their words) in getting involved in a criminal matter.

  24. jec332 says: Aug 28, 2014 12:19 PM

    Steeler1nation,

    Roethlisberger also knew. He still does.

  25. tk1966 says: Aug 28, 2014 1:38 PM

    I wonder how many of those commenting (and quite maturely I may add) about “Ped State” and other childish or baseless allegations know anything other than the sensationalistic reporting by ESPN? We have recently seen how worthless the reporting by ESPN can be by their story about Michael Sam’s showering habits.

    The NCAA has shown their hypocrisy in this matter, and by their own recommendations actually absolve Paterno, as well as some of the administrators in question of any wrongdoing, but neither the NCAA will admit as much, nor will ESPN report this.

    The NCAA acknowledges that Paterno reported what he knew, a second hand retelling of “something” that occurred. They then demonize him for not doing more. Yet, in August of this year, the NCAA approved a resolution that says athletic departments must “cooperate with but not manage, direct, control or interfere with college or university investigations into allegations of sexual violence ensuring that investigations involving student-athletes and athletics department staff are managed in the same manner as all other students and staff on campus.”

    Paterno did exactly what they now recommend – he reported (the little he knew) and then did not direct, control nor interfere.

  26. dmvtransplant says: Aug 28, 2014 8:06 PM

    Lift the ban for no other reason than it makes the NCAA look stupid and I’m okay with that.

  27. jec332 says: Aug 28, 2014 8:22 PM

    dmvtransplant,

    The sanctions make the NCAA look stupid. And shows they can ignore their own rules.

  28. boomgrounder says: Aug 29, 2014 10:13 AM

    Makes me sick! Especially considering that some of PSU’s crimes were committed at bowl games. They should’ve got the “Death Penalty” for 5 years, 1 full recruiting cycle. Penn State will always have a certain stench attached to it for perpetuity now.

  29. jec332 says: Aug 29, 2014 11:10 AM

    Boom grounder,

    Well, if PSU will always have a stench to you, then punishing a bunch of kids that did nothing wrong will not help you feel like PSU got their punishment and can move forward.

    You’re never going to feel PSU can “make up” for what happened, even though nobody left was even involved.

    I’m sad for ignorant people like you. You must also think all Muslims are terrorists and all Catholics are forever tarnished because of the decisions of a few of their leaders in secret.

    For your sake, I hope you’re not that ignorant, and your feigned moral outrage is more based on the jealousy that our program is still a lot better than yours.

    I’m glad you’re angry. Be mad about our program. I hope our success frustrates you. Get used to that bitterness, as Penn State is going to continue to excel both on and off the field.

  30. eidolon21 says: Aug 29, 2014 11:33 AM

    Joe Paterno and Penn State must have beat the he** out of BoomGrumbler’s team year after year for him to feel this way. His need to tell lies about PSU and his bitterness bring joy to my heart. The only stench around here is coming from his hatred.

  31. wesleymouch says: Aug 30, 2014 12:34 PM

    I love how people keep talking about “Penn State’s” crimes. Let’s think about this. THE SECOND MILE was the tool by which Sandusky gained access to his victims. Most of the abuse took place during activities organized by THE SECOND MILE. THE SECOND MILE was notified that there were questions about Sandusky by none other than Penn State.

    Keep this in mind haters: not a single official of THE SECOND MILE has been charged with anything in regard to these incidents. Nor has THE SECOND MILE paid a single penny to any of the victims. Also keep in mind that several Penn State trustees had a financial stake in THE SECOND MILE.

    When you actually look at the facts of the case, it looks more and more like our Board of Trustees threw the football team under the bus to cover up their ties to THE SECOND MILE. Basically, THE SECOND MILE has been allowed to slip away quietly in the night without any penalty whatsoever. Don’t tell me that this is justice for the victims.

  32. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 30, 2014 1:59 PM

    I’m pleased as punch that Penn State will have the opportunity to finally put all this bovine feces behind them. The University, right or wrong, accepted what the NCAA sanctioned the Athletic program for. The alumni, the students, the athletic teams all accepted what happened, sucked it up and did what they had to do to survive the Sandusky scandal and the collateral damage done.

    The people that were responsible for the debacle are out of power, in prison, or dead.

    Penn State should be proud that the future is starting to brighten for school and the B1G.

    RTR

  33. eidolon21 says: Aug 30, 2014 2:30 PM

    the guilty are the BOT and the Politicians
    never Paterno or the Football program.
    False narrative and you know it AAS.

  34. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 31, 2014 12:26 AM

    eidolon,

    Nope.

    To this day, most Penn State alums and supporters do not know just how close Penn State came to having the entire athletic program being SHUT down for a minimum of three years. The sanctions ordered by the NCAA were well within their purview as the governing body of collegiate athletics. There was lack of institutional control from the school President, a Vice President of University Affairs, and the Athletic Director as well
    as the Head Coach of the football team. The school officials put the BoT in an untenable
    position to fight the NCAA in the arena of public opinion and dare the NCAA to open a full scale investigation of the ENTIRE athletic program AFTER the NCAA shuts down the entire Athletic Program. The BoT made the best decision for the short term and long term interests of the entire University.

    Paterno knew Sandusky. He knew of the innuendos and rumors surrounding Sandusky, dating back to 1998 and yet did nothing.
    He allowed unfettered access to his locker room and football facilities to a sexual predator. He allowed his players to give credibility to the Second Mile by allowing them to work with the charity.

    Joe Paterno was a good man who “merely followed the chain of command”. All Paterno had to do was make ONE phone call to the State Police about Sandusky and JoePa would still have his reputation and his precious records. You really think Sandusky would have sued Joe Pa for defamation of character? Who do you think people would have believed Joe Pa or Sandusky?

    We both know the answer to that question.

    Instead Paterno chose to do nothing, and hid behind the power of his name and his position. Do you really think Paterno would have done nothing if one of the children molested was HIS grandson? You don’t think he would have called the police?

    Penn State football paid an enormous price for the systematic coverup of the sordid Sandusky episode by Spainer, Curley, Schultz and yes, Paterno. Why else would a dying
    Paterno make a statement that “He wish he had done more.” A guilty conscience perhaps?

  35. jec332 says: Aug 31, 2014 1:43 AM

    Amosonzostagg,

    You’re free to your opinion, which is all that is. You’re not more informed than anyone else, so you don’t have some knowledge that “Penn State alums and supporters don’t know…” Someone that finishes their last post RTR isn’t more well-informed than alums of the school.

    Again, just because I disagree with you assessment is fine. The thing I don’t allow is people in appropriately cutting out parts of a quote to fit their argument. Paterno said, “IN HINDSIGHT, I wish I had done more.”

    People wishing they had done something differently in the past based on what they now know is the present is common. I’m sure FDR said that after Pearl Harbor. Does that mean FDR was some monster president? No.

    We have put this behind us, but don’t come here saying you’re glad we’ve moved forward and then saying how the NCAA was within their purview to hand out a punishment. The fact that they had to bypass their own rules subcommittee to pass down the punishment shows that was not the case.

    Yes, the alumni and players left, all of which were not involved, have sucked it up. Those few individuals have been gone for years and were not representative of some culture issue. We love our football, but nobody else knew about Sandusky. They just decided to punish everyone that didn’t know, which makes no sense.

    Anyway, we’re going through the sanctions just fine, but don’t come here trying to play holier than thou with good luck then showing your true nature when some one calls you out on your backhanded well-wishes. Bama is a dirty program. We had a scandal, but we still would never want to be Bama. If you were a Stanford fan then you could talk, but you’ve had players thrown off for rape in the past and you were on sanctions recently as well. Basically, take your RTR and move along.

  36. eidolon21 says: Aug 31, 2014 5:29 AM

    AAS
    Like I said you are repeating a false narrative and you know it.

  37. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 31, 2014 10:34 AM

    eidolon,

    Nope, but keep the rosy picture of Joe Pa going to his grave a heart broken, sick man who “wished he had done more”.

    Your refusal to ACCEPT the narrative that JoePa, Spanier, Curley and Schultz were willing and active participants in a cover up of a sexual predator for over a decade. Those FACTS never change. People like you ALLOWED Sandusky to operate in broad daylight, all for the glory of JoePa.

    As a result, Penn State paid, and will continue to pay, an enormous price. The Sandusky scandal has stained and will continue to stain a proud Penn State long after you and I are gone.

    I deal in reality, you in a cover up.

    RTR

  38. eidolon21 says: Aug 31, 2014 10:52 AM

    Nope the DA in Pennsylvania said there was NO evidence that Paterno was involved in a cover up>
    That is a fact. You’re words are your biased opinion.
    And you know it. That is reality.

  39. jec332 says: Aug 31, 2014 11:15 AM

    Amosalonzostagg,

    You’re obviously a troll dealing in inaccuracies and faulty opinion.

    The Sandusky stain will not continue to stain Penn State except with biased fools like you. Penn State will continue to be an amazing school for both academics and athletics. There will always be a lot to be proud about, and the Sandusky “stain” is on those involved and not the university left.

    Move along, Harvey Updyke. Your cousin in your bed is lonely. It’s time for you to get back to her.

  40. jec332 says: Aug 31, 2014 11:48 AM

    Amosalanzostagg,

    I just wanted to add that it’s especially nice getting the many recruits to commit to Penn State over Alabama.

    I’m guessing they look around the redneck Bama fan base and realize they don’t want any part of that. At Penn State, they can play major college football at a larger stadium AND get a great education. Those are things they just don’t have down at Bama.

    You’re here accusing people left of allowing Sandusky to do anything. Are you really that ignorant? I mean, we know Bama fans and grads are generally regarded as the white trash of the college football world, but are you that low? Nobody left knew ANYTHING.

    And you talk about worship with your BEAR BRYANT statue outside your stadium with all the racism and terrible treatment of african americans around that program. I’m honestly blown away that anyone that’s African American would ever play at a school filled with such a racist history like Alabama or Ole Miss. We all see confederate flags still waved at your Bama tailgates. Such human trash. The lynchings and history in spilled blood down there is a stain that will never wash out. And now you’re here pointing fingers of responsibility at those left that knew NOTHING. Give me a break, hypocrite.

  41. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 31, 2014 5:00 PM

    jce332,

    Again, this is not about Alabama.

    Using your own words,

    “The thing I don’t allow is people in appropriately cutting out parts of a quote to fit their argument. Paterno said, “IN HINDSIGHT, I wish I had done more.” “.

    Why would Paterno ever use the word hindsight if it did not convey that he had first hand knowledge of the Sandusky situation? Truth is JoePa did not like Sandusky as a person or a coach. Care to explain why a defensive coordinator for Joe Pa’s National Championship team never got a whiff of coaching his own program?

    Point is, Penn State paid an enormous price for the cover up by University officials on the Sandusky matter. Paterno died two months after the scandal broke and no DA I have ever
    known has ever indicted a dead man, even as an unindicted, co conspirator. Besides, Curley, Schultz and Spainer are out at Penn State STILL awaiting trial and Penn State is moving on. The NCAA sanctioned Penn State, not on football violations, but lack of institutional control by senior University officials.

    Three things we both know is that

    (1.) Bear Bryant’s statue is STILL up outside the stadium when Joe Pa’s is not.,
    (2.) Bear Bryant STILL has his coaching record intact where Joe Pa doesn’t. and
    (3.) Joe Pa will ALWAYS have the stain of Sandusky associated with his name and his tarnished legacy,…forever.

    I’m glad Penn State survived the Sandusky scandal and looks to thrive again. Your recruiting has gone well, and I’m intrigued as how Franklin will transition to the B1G compared to the SEC.

    RTR

  42. jec332 says: Aug 31, 2014 5:23 PM

    I’ve already addressed the fallacies of your comments. I’m not going to do it again.

    It is about Bama. It obviously is comparison for you, as your FIRST point what defending Bear Bryant and pointing out his statue was still up. A Paterno that reported it, as he did, will always be a better person and coach than Bear Bryant ever was. No statue needed to know that.

    I’ll take being us over being Bama any day.

    Good luck. I’m done with this conversation.

  43. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 31, 2014 5:49 PM

    jcc332,

    Typical, when you can’t debate actual FACTS, you run.

    Joe Pa reported it to his “supervisor” then washed his hands of the reporting, no follow up, no denying Sandusky use of the Penn State facilities.

    History proves otherwise on Bear. His reputation is intact, Joe Pa’s is not.

    Enjoy being known as the Sandusky school. You don’t think the rest of the B1G schools STILL belittle Penn State players behind their bench at away games? B1g schools still snicker at Penn State
    and will continue at Penn State.

    RTR

  44. jec332 says: Aug 31, 2014 5:54 PM

    “…STILL belittle Penn State players behind their bench at away games?”

    That just catches us up with Bama fans and alums. They’re belittled by everyone in college football for being white trash idiots. I always snicker about a Bama diploma. It’s as respected as toilet paper.

    Let’s go Penn State!

  45. dkhhuey says: Aug 31, 2014 10:08 PM

    Yes – because we certainly don’t want to penalize the university too much for allowing their coach to anally rape and molest kids in the team shower, hotel, and offices… after all, it was so long ago and PSU has been such a model citizen for a few days….

    The NCAA is a farce… grab your hair ballsac, man up, and stick with your original sentence… otherwise you look like a group of old men who have no problem overturning your own sentence as long as the PSU alumni money is right..

  46. jec332 says: Aug 31, 2014 10:28 PM

    Dkhhuey,

    Such interesting logic. By that logic, we should have punished all of America after watergate. I mean, it didn’t matter that nobody in the country knew what happened. They had elected the leader that ended up being corrupt. We should have just gotten rid of the Presidency for a few years to teach America a lesson.

    Yes, that’s the foolishness of your argument.

    I’m glad your bitter. Don’t worry. Penn State will always be better than you school for academics and athletics. We’re not surprised you want the sanctions to stay. I’m sure you’d have them keep the sanctions forever on the football program “for the victims.” Ha, as nothing helps child abuse victims like missed football games. Anyway, enjoy our success on and off the field. I know I will.

  47. dkhhuey says: Sep 1, 2014 11:28 AM

    Not talking about anything else but the farce that is PSU administration for turning their back on Sandusky anally raping little boys in the team shower, in the team hotel, and no doubt everywhere else he could get away with it! It has nothing to do with any other logical argument you care to dream up – it has solely to do with a corrupt program that did anything and everything to protect the PSU brand. The program got everything it deserved!

  48. amosalanzostagg says: Sep 1, 2014 11:59 AM

    jec332,

    “enjoy our success on and off the field. I know I will.”

    I know you will, you’re part of the B1G, post season
    patsies for the rest of the NCAA.

    RTR

  49. jec332 says: Sep 1, 2014 12:46 PM

    Dkhheuy,

    “It has nothing to do with any other logical argument…”

    The true part of your comment. It contains no logic.

    Bad people do bad things. We don’t punish the innocent for it. This isn’t Nazi germany. Sorry you want that.

  50. eidolon21 says: Sep 1, 2014 1:20 PM

    now we all know AAS only cares about Alabama and the Bear’s Legacy. He will repeat any lie about Paterno he has to, to accomplish that end.
    You are a liar and morally bankrupt. Go on about your sorry life.

  51. amosalanzostagg says: Sep 1, 2014 1:20 PM

    jec332 wrote on September 1, 2014

    “Bad people do bad things. We don’t punish the innocent for it. This isn’t Nazi Germany. ”

    First TRUE statement you made.

    “Bad people do bad things” I glad you agree with me that Spanier, Schultz, Curley, and Joe Pa committing perjury and covering up the Sandusky rape situation on the Penn State campus.

    “We don’t punish the innocent.” No, you wait until you get caught and then plead innocence on your part by saying “ve vere only following orders! I reported it to my immediate superior!” Didn’t work at Nuremberg, won’t work now.

    “This isn’t Nazi Germany.” Truer words have never been uttered.

    Hitler, Himmler, Goering, and Goebbels all offed themselves to avoid be accountable for their actions. Only Joe Pa has died, probably of a broken heart and lung cancer. Spanier,
    Schultz and Curley ARE still awaiting trial on the premise that the court will throw out the charges on the misguided notion that the Penn State University legal counsel represented them rather than the interests of the University. Trial could still be THREE
    years out.

    Glad you final grew up. So sad that Penn State and Joe Pa are already guilty in the court of public opinion.

    RTR

  52. jec332 says: Sep 1, 2014 1:25 PM

    Eidolon21,

    You’re exactly right. This is all about Bear’s legacy to him compared with Paterno and the fact that we’re stealing recruits from his beloved Bama. It’s really sad that he feels the need to make up this false narrative to support his Bama homerism. I guess fallacies are ok in Bama as long as you end them with “RTR.” Typical Harvey Updyke type Bama fan with his head in the sand to logic.

  53. jec332 says: Sep 1, 2014 1:33 PM

    Amosalonzostagg,

    Who is “you”? You’re as responsible as anyone left at PSU. Everyone left wasn’t involved. I’ll make you a deal, though. We’ll give up football at PSU if they’ll agree to get rid of it at Bama because of your blood stained history involving slavery and continued racism. As you’re also as guilty for what happened with Sandusky, you can get rid of it for that as well. If you’re so “for the victims” then we’ll punish all the innocent left that could have done something, which includes you.

    If not, pack up your trailer park RTR and move along.

  54. amosalanzostagg says: Sep 1, 2014 2:25 PM

    If anything, Penn State people like jec332 and eldion are VERY predictable. they’re
    like abig mouth bass that see a shiny lure and go for the bait EVERY time. Ya’ll have been quite entertaining.

    This discourse has never been about Alabama, it’s been about Penn State and how senior University officials covered up the affairs of a former coach that still had access to the University, period end of story.

    The two of have failed miserably since Joe Pa and Penn State were indicted, tried and found GUILTY in the court of public opinion. Enjoy Penn State football, I wish you nothing but the best, considering you haven’t been relevant on the national scene since the late 80’s.

    RTR

  55. jec332 says: Sep 1, 2014 4:10 PM

    You Bama people are uneducated. It’s understandable that you don’t want to make this about Bama. It’s a dirty program with a terrible history of poor treatment of African Americans.

    It is about Bama because you wouldn’t give up football for the victims.

    Good luck with that court of public opinion. The Nazis also went by the court of public opinion. You and Dkhheuy are from the same witch trial mold. Scary.

    I don’t have any ill-will towards Bama. Most schools could be dominant without any admission standards holding them back. We’ll be just fine with Coach Franklin. You and your RTR good old boys enjoy your Bear Bryant and Harvey Updyke worship.

  56. auburntigers34 says: Sep 1, 2014 4:41 PM

    jec332 proves that PSU has some of the most annoying, delusional, and unjustifiably arrogant fans on the planet.

  57. amosalanzostagg says: Sep 1, 2014 4:51 PM

    jec332,

    Nice try.

    Bama will do just fine. Always have, always will. Black athletes recognize quality and they know that they have a great opportunity at the University of Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Mississippi, Florida, South Carolina and the South as a whole. That irks you. It is the closet racist like you that look at blacks has being inferior and unacceptable which is both putrid and repugnant. So sad that your attitude is still around today.

    The sad and pathetic chapter chapter in which Penn State University administrators Spanier, Curley, Schultz and Paterno allowed a known child rapist to prey on innocent kids for over a decade right under their noses is now behind them. Good for Penn State, Penn State Board members accepted the NCAA sanctions when they could have fought them and lost. The BoT showed wisdom and sound judgement in order to serve the entire University, not an Athletic program. I hope that the NCAA appointed proctor, George Mitchell does recommend to the NCAA that Penn State is an entirely different culture from the corrupt culture that existed with Spanier, Curley, Schultz and yes, Paterno.

    Is it not ironic when Coach Paterno gave a commencement speech at Penn State and asked how could President Nixon know so much about college football in 1969, yet knew so little about Watergate? Karma comes back to haunt you. How could Joe Paterno know so much about football, but doesn’t know what happens in his own football facilities since 1998?

    Joe Paterno knew and went to his death knowing he failed. He failed as a Coach when he did not heed his own teachings of honesty and integrity that he told charges year end, year out. He failed Penn State by not putting his ego aside on his precious football program and demand action on Sandusky when he should have followed up with his superiors constantly. He failed as a parent and private citizen when he could have made ONE phone call to the State Police on Sandusky and protected innocent kids from a sexual predator. His haunting refrain on the video of “We are Penn State!”
    when the feces was hitting the oscillator shows just how much of a failure he was.

    Rome was burning and all he could car about was his precious football program.

    His epitaph will always be the Sandusky affair and his failed reputation.

    Enjoy B1G football

  58. jec332 says: Sep 1, 2014 5:10 PM

    The Confederate flag waving Bama fan is calling someone a racist?

    I just stopped reading there, as that’s completely absurd. The south is known as the hot bed of racism in America.

    You must really ignore what going on in your part of the country. Ferguson, anyone?!?!?

    You need to wake up.

  59. amosalanzostagg says: Sep 1, 2014 5:31 PM

    jec332,

    Must have hit a nerve for you to acknowledge that your racist attitudes must be masked by a hood.

    Unlike you, we have grown up in the South. Confederate flag waving went out in the 60’s.
    Ferguson was a tragedy in it’s own right. Where was the racism involved? The new Black Panther party and out of state agitators descended upon Ferguson. Question is, were you one of them?

    Sure, you’ll deny it (closet racists ALWAYS do). I eagerly await your response since most closet racists usually respond to (1.) defend themselves or (2.) attack. Which action will you take?

    RTR

  60. jec332 says: Sep 1, 2014 6:49 PM

    Nope. No nerve hit.

    You really think confederate flag waving went out in the 60s?

    You don’t think Ferguson was a direct result of racism? Are you that naive? The cop shot an unarmed black man.

    As you’re in the south, did you rush to the aid of that community? Doubtful.

    Ah, a simple two way path of options. That small-minded way of thinking has been your way all along. Someone pointing out your racist past isn’t racist. It’s just part of who you are. It’s something that will forever be linked to the south. It’ll be linked to all the SEC schools and how they were reluctant to let in african americans. Even when they were forced to they mistreated them.

    It’s part of your history. George Wallace stood in the doorway at Alabama trying to stop blacks. Alabama and the other southern schools will be known for that long after you and I are gone. That’s how the We are… chant came about. The cotton bowl tried to prevent a black player on the PSU team from playing and we said “We are…Penn State” meaning that either we all play or none of us play. I had thought the south had moved forward, but Ferguson showed us otherwise.

    What happened with us was very sad with the few individuals involved. Nobody left knew and we feel for those impacted. We removed those responsible, did what we could to fix it, and are moving forward, but those crimes are small compared to the egregious crimes against humanity perpetuated by the south. Again, you can try to paint others as racist, but you all set the bar for it. Good lord, Ole Miss had Colonel Reb as their mascot until 2010…As I said originally, I have no idea why an African American would go play for an SEC school. I stand by that.

  61. amosalanzostagg says: Sep 1, 2014 8:04 PM

    jec332 wrote Sept 1, 2014 6:49pm

    “As I said originally, I have no idea why an African American would go play for an SEC school. I stand by that.”

    Spoken like the close minded racist you are. I don’t tolerate racists like yourself. So enjoy B1G football and have a great year.

    You never answered when you left Ferguson.

    RTR

  62. jec332 says: Sep 2, 2014 10:57 AM

    Amosalanozostagg,

    I will enjoy B1G football.

    Enjoy your Alabama program tainted by its racist history.

    I had already asked you about Ferguson. You ignored it, just as the south continues to ignores racism. That’s what got you to Colonel Reb still around in 2010 and Ferguson taking place.

    Anyway, have a great year with your RTR ways.

  63. amosalanzostagg says: Sep 2, 2014 1:18 PM

    jec332

    I’m proud the way the South has grown beyond it’s racial strife. We’ll continue to grow up .

    Ferguson was a tragedy,period. The facts have yet to be determined. Yet a race baiter like yourself wants to paint an entire region as racist when it is the far from the truth. It is sad that racism consumes your feeble world.

    I am heartened to see that you recognized the actions of Spanier, Schultz, Curley, and Paterno when you opined,

    “What happened with us was very sad with the few individuals involved. Nobody left knew and we feel for those impacted. We removed those responsible, did what we could to fix it, and are moving forward”

    You recognized that the BoT for Penn State did the right thing in accepting the sanctions from the NCAA rather than destroy a proud and fine institution.

    Hopefully people will let Penn State move beyond “Joe Knew!”,”Ped U” and “State Penn” comments and recognize that the actions of a few do not represent the many. Sort of like you growing beyond a half century old perception of the South and grow beyond your own intolerance. Have a great life!

    RTR

  64. jec332 says: Sep 2, 2014 1:43 PM

    I hope the south continues to improve and learn. We can’t keep having the same intolerance down there that leads tragedies like Ferguson.

    Have a good life.

    Let’s go Penn State!

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