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Cam Newton, Auburn cleared by NCAA

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Apparently, the Cam Newton situation has abruptly come to, for now, an end — with one final major twist, of course — just in time for the entire focus to be shifted onto the SEC title game, a possible spot in the BcS title game, and the Heisman Trophy presentation in two weeks.

According to a press release issued by the NCAA, the Auburn quarterback was declared ineligible by the school Tuesday after “the NCAA concluded on Monday that a violation of amateurism rules occurred.”  Wednesday, however, the NCAA announced that Newton has been reinstated and is immediately eligible to compete.

So, yes, you read that correctly: Newton was ineligible for the SEC title game for a matter of roughly 24 hours.  And it didn’t hit the Internet rumor mill at all.  That may be the most amazing part of this story.  Other than a father pimping out his son, of course.

Speaking of which, the news was not good for Cam Newton‘s father, however.  The NCAA writes in their release that “according to facts of the case agreed upon by Auburn University and the NCAA enforcement staff, the student-athlete’s father and an owner of a scouting service [Kenny Rogers] worked together to actively market the student-athlete as a part of a pay-for-play scenario in return for Newton’s commitment to attend college and play football.”

As a result of the investigation, Auburn has limited Cecil Newton’s access to the athletics program and Mississippi State has disassociated itself from Rogers.  Rogers, a former MSU football player, reportedly solicited between $100,000 and $180,000 from coaches at his former school on the behalf of Cecil Newton.

“The conduct of Cam Newton’s father and the involved individual is unacceptable and has no place in the SEC or in intercollegiate athletics,” SEC commissioner Mike Slive said in a statement.  “The actions taken by Auburn University and Mississippi State University make it clear this behavior will not be tolerated in the SEC.”

The reason for Newton’s reinstatement is simple.  “Based on the information available to the reinstatement staff at this time, we do not have sufficient evidence that Cam Newton or anyone from Auburn was aware of this activity,” said Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president for academic and membership affairs.

Newton was unaware of his father’s actions according to the facts gathered in the NCAA’s investigation and therefore did not participate — i.e. play in games — while ineligible, and is therefore eligible for reinstatement under NCAA bylaws.

Certainly new information could surface somewhere down the road that would cast a different light on the situation as the investigation is ongoing and active, but the only thing that matters right now is that Cam Newton is eligible and this cloud has been lifted off the Auburn football program.

And, with so much riding on the next couple of weeks, it couldn’t have come at a more opportune time.

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81 Responses to “Cam Newton, Auburn cleared by NCAA”
  1. spudvol says: Dec 1, 2010 1:22 PM

    BFeldmanESPN Bruce Feldman
    Interesting ruling by the NCAA, opening the door for parents to try and cut deals in recruiting as long as the kid isn’t involved. Wow.
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  2. hawkinsob says: Dec 1, 2010 1:28 PM

    Wow, what a whitewash.

    So as long as the parents negotiate and accept the money, and there’s no “proof” that the player know, then everything is cool!

    No proof other than the guy at MSU that was told by Cam that “the money was too much” of course.

    As slimy as it gets and the ncaa endorses it. Good work guys.

  3. georgeanderson2 says: Dec 1, 2010 1:30 PM

    The NCAA can work this fast? Why are kids having to wait weeks and months at times for the NCAA to make decisions on their college futures?

    Why are the colleges letting the NCAA rule them? It’s time to break away and start forming a new governing body. The NCAA seems to be too corrupt. Too much money involved with everyone wanting to stick their hands in the cookie jar.

  4. hawkinsob says: Dec 1, 2010 1:40 PM

    No kidding georgeanderson2–the ncaa managed to complete this “investigation” at warp speed to get this swept under the rug.

    Is there a single person on this earth who believe that Cam Newton didn’t know that his dad was shopping him around? Is there one idiot who believes it?

    “I’m going to Auburn because ‘the money is too much'” (Straight from Cam’s mouth).

    This is one of the biggest scandals in college football in decades. We’re talking about somebody seeking HUGE amounts of CASH to play. The NCAA has made itself look like an absolute joke with this whitewash. I hope the FBI gets to the bottom of it and the ncaa ends up looking like corrupt politicians they are.

    Honestly. We’re all just supposed to pretend now that Cam Newton knew nothing? Is that what they’re telling us?

  5. 1990tiger says: Dec 1, 2010 1:40 PM

    Well, isn’t this good news for Cam Newton and Auburn! We should all go out and celebrate!!!

  6. thompgk says: Dec 1, 2010 1:45 PM

    Like I said several weeks ago.

  7. scardino says: Dec 1, 2010 1:47 PM

    I must have missed something.

  8. gamustangdude says: Dec 1, 2010 1:50 PM

    Let the Cam bashing begin. Now posters will call Cam an idiot for not know what his father was doing. Go ahead bottom line Cam Newton is not guilty.

  9. proppilot says: Dec 1, 2010 1:51 PM

    The reason for Newton’s reinstatement is simple. ”Based on the information available to the reinstatement staff at this time, we do not have sufficient evidence that Cam Newton or anyone from Auburn was aware of this activity,” said Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president for academic and membership affairs.

    Newton was unaware of his father’s actions according to the facts gathered in the NCAA’s investigation and therefore did not participate — i.e. play in games — while ineligible, and is therefore eligible for reinstatement under NCAA bylaws.

    The process of declaring him “eligible” can’t be done until he’s declared “ineligible” by the University…..it’s a technicality but explains the quick turnaround.

    I would look for major rules changes by the NCAA for this type incidence in the future otherwise this crap will get out of control quickly.

  10. bernieboy79 says: Dec 1, 2010 1:51 PM

    Not sure why other commentors think the NCAA is opening a door here or is saying this is okay. Neither the student nor the school was found of any wrong-doing.

    Parents and agents can solicit as much money as they want…as long as the school reports it and the student isn’t involved then there isn’t anything the NCAA can do.

    I’m not saying Cam is innocent…just not that the NCAA doesn’t have enough evidence to declare him ineligible.

    Now, federal authorities should get involved and procesute, to dissuade any of this from happening by other parents/agents. But that won’t happen.

  11. wvuandsteelers says: Dec 1, 2010 1:54 PM

    George Anderson, I have one word for you.

    AMEN!!

  12. tide4life says: Dec 1, 2010 2:10 PM

    Anyone who thinks NCAA and/or conference officials are ‘the good guys’ needs to lay off the Kool Aid. This does not declare Newton innocent; it merely rushes out a finding that allows Newton to play and the money to keep rolling, until such time as a real investigation is conducted. You can rest assured that Mike Slive is up to his armpits in sleaze, and not just where Newton is concerned. That said, this investigation will ultimately go nowhere unless the fans, the advertisers (yeah, right . . .) and, most importantly, the sports media keep interest alive and maintain the pressure. The biggest problem with trying to get to the truth will be short attention spans, and the sports media are the ones who are supplying the ongoing Tebow-esque worship of Newton. The “my daddy done it and I didn’t know nothing about it” defense is nonsense, and anyone with sense enough to pick their nose can see that.

  13. rivik says: Dec 1, 2010 2:11 PM

    This is a joke! Even if by some remote possibility he didn’t know, if the parents were involved in something that broke the rules he should not be eligible to play. It’s a sad day for college football and its future. And it’s a sad day for all those who follow the rules.

  14. lucky5927 says: Dec 1, 2010 2:23 PM

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion… but considering this decision was made by a group of people who had the entire set of facts, I would take their credibility over the opinions of posters. The thing that concerns me though is how they NCAA reversed its decision over a 24 hour period. What swayed their mind towards making him ineligible in the first place.

  15. Deb says: Dec 1, 2010 2:25 PM

    I, too, doubt any of this went on without Cam’s knowledge, but he’s a product of his upbringing. It’s his father’s job to set an appropriate example–especially as someone claiming a higher calling. The one thing no one can argue is that Cam Newton is an amazingly talented athlete. But it’s difficult to imagine all this won’t have an impact on the Heisman vote.

    The idea of an organization as corrupt as the NCAA passing judgment on anyone else is laughable. They make a fortune off the talents of these young men, but crucify them if they look cross-eyed at an agent. If they intended to exonerate Cam, they should have done so outright rather than putting him through 24 hours of ineligibility, then lifting it. Was that ineptitude or just cruelty?

    Now they’ve set a precedent that parents can engage in pay-for-play schemes with no consequences. We all fully expected Cam to play Saturday, and since the FBI investigation
    is ongoing, it’s difficult to see what the NCAA has accomplished with these awkward announcements.

  16. jdux2011 says: Dec 1, 2010 2:27 PM

    Well at least now the rules are clear. As long as Mom or Dad sells a players services to a Booster, then everything is fine — as long as there is no hard evidence that Junior knows about the negotiation. And as long as the University isn’t aware of the deal.

    The NCAA just opened up Pandora’s Box.
    But at least they did so quickly!
    As long as the NCAA is making money, the School is making money and the Bowl Committee’s make money, all is good. Just don’t let the athlete make any of it. That would be a problem.

  17. msennett says: Dec 1, 2010 2:35 PM

    This absolutely defies logic. I hope Rich Rodriquez is paying attention. Could come in handy as he struggles to keep his job.

  18. 1down2fortheshow says: Dec 1, 2010 2:37 PM

    Ludicrous.

    Hey dad I was all set to go to Mississippi State, but out of the blue, you tell me I’m going to Auburn instead. Now, I’m a good son, so I’m not going to ask why…I’m just going to say yessir and move on to Auburn.

    By the way, that sure is a nice new choir loft at the church. Must have neen a good month for tithes.

    Ah, college athletics and the “Tithes that Bind.”

  19. edgy loves (insert overrated MWC/WAC team) says: Dec 1, 2010 2:50 PM

    can someone explain the difference between what happened to reggie bush and what is going on in this case?

    both were completely aware of what was happening

  20. thompgk says: Dec 1, 2010 2:50 PM

    #
    Deb says: Dec 1, 2010 2:25 PM

    I, too, doubt any of this went on without Cam’s knowledge, but he’s a product of his upbringing. It’s his father’s job to set an appropriate example–especially as someone claiming a higher calling. The one thing no one can argue is that Cam Newton is an amazingly talented athlete. But it’s difficult to imagine all this won’t have an impact on the Heisman vote.

    The idea of an organization as corrupt as the NCAA passing judgment on anyone else is laughable. They make a fortune off the talents of these young men, but crucify them if they look cross-eyed at an agent. If they intended to exonerate Cam, they should have done so outright rather than putting him through 24 hours of ineligibility, then lifting it. Was that ineptitude or just cruelty?

    Now they’ve set a precedent that parents can engage in pay-for-play schemes with no consequences. We all fully expected Cam to play Saturday, and since the FBI investigation
    is ongoing, it’s difficult to see what the NCAA has accomplished with these awkward announcements.

    _______________________________

    LOL u mad

  21. Deb says: Dec 1, 2010 2:55 PM

    @thompgk …

    LOL u illiterate?

    Guess fundamental reading skills aren’t required at Auburn. Since you missed it, I slammed the NCAA for messing with the kid’s head and Heisman chances when they have nothing new to report and the FBI is still investigating Auburn.

  22. bernieboy79 says: Dec 1, 2010 2:58 PM

    I love how everyone ignores the fact that

    THE SCHOOL (MSU) DID NOT TAKE PART IN ANY ILLEGAL ACTIONS. AND ONCE THEY GOT WIND OF WHAT WAS GOING ON THEY REPORTED IT TO THE SEC.

    So, no, this does not open up a pandora’s box.

    This is the difference between the Cam Newtown case and the Reggie Bush case. MSU decided they did not want to be involved in a pay-for-play scheme, while USC did.

    That is why USC is on probation and MSU (and Auburn) are not.

    So there are consequences.

    As for involvement between boosters and parents with the school/kid’s knowledge, I’m sure the NCAA will find a way to prevent this…as they certainly do not like anyone making money off their players (except for themselves of course)

  23. bernieboy79 says: Dec 1, 2010 3:00 PM

    oh..and Reggie Bush and his family actually took money/gifts, while there is no proof that Cam did.

  24. dhardy8207 says: Dec 1, 2010 3:02 PM

    This only means they have not gotten to the bottom of everything. There is a reason that the Feds are involved and the NCAA doesn’t govern the fathers actions nor that of the agents. This is not over and from what I’ve been hearing around the state this may have more of a backlash on Auburn than originally thought. All the BS that went on with NC and what 1/2 a dozen or more players were involved but the FBI was not brought in.

    This is going to be some more legal process when all this is done, some may even get prison time for their involvement.

  25. 9mike9 says: Dec 1, 2010 3:07 PM

    Ya, the 24 hours of ineligibility I don’t get. Why do that? Without knowing the system well, I have to wonder if someone didn’t screw up somewhere in the investigation. It makes it sound like he was ruled ineligible and then they had to quickly retract. Is there more to explain here?

  26. bender4700 says: Dec 1, 2010 3:14 PM

    Lesson:

    Pay-To-Play still a go. Just make sure the person orchestrating the money terms is a direct relative of the player, remember this “I didn’t know anything about it”. Next step, no member of the University can know about it. Wink wink.

    This whole thing seems odd. Cam’s dad dictated what school he went to, made propositions for money to change hands, and Cam is completely oblivious?

    What did Cam’s dad tell him for why he went to Auburn?

  27. 1990tiger says: Dec 1, 2010 3:17 PM

    I agree with some of what Deb says (yes, you read that right). Whether or not Cam knew what his father was doing, we will probably never know unless someone has tapes of Cam discussing the money. As it now stands, we only have one person (of questionable integrity, at that) alleging that Cam knew of the money. As far as this affecting Newton’s Heisman candidacy, I think this could actually help him instead of hurt him since some voters wouldn’t vote for him while there was a question about his eligibility. Now that the NCAA has declared him eligible, those voters might be more inclined to vote for him.
    Regarding Cecil Newton (and assuming that the NCAA does have credible evidence to support its findings), I do find it disappointing that a father, much less a “man of the cloth” would engage in such actions. Many of us generally hold people in his position to higher standards of conduct than we do the general public.
    As far as the NCAA declaring Cam Newton eligible 24 hours after Auburn declared him ineligible, you can be certain that all parties involved agreed in advance how that would work out. In fact, it is probably likely that the NCAA, Auburn, Cam Newton and Cecil Newton all discussed in advance how this would play out before any action was taken (maybe in exchange for Cecil Newton admitting that he had solicited money for his son?). One thing about this that does give me some reassurance is I don’t think (maybe hope?) Auburn would enter into if their hands were dirty.
    Regarding the involvement of the FBI, I’m not sure what the focus of their investigation would be. I don’t know that soliciting (or even accepting) money for playing football is against the law (would have to be a federal and not a state law) even thought it would be against NCAA rules. It would be against the law to receive payment (if any money was actually received) and not report it as income but I think the IRS would investigate that instead of the FBI.

  28. laffers says: Dec 1, 2010 3:23 PM

    What about the statement from “Cam” Newton to MSU, tearfully “apologizing, that he wasn’t coming to MSU because of the money”. Doesn’t that show he knew?

  29. 1990tiger says: Dec 1, 2010 3:24 PM

    bernieboy79 says: Dec 1, 2010 2:58 PM

    I love how everyone ignores the fact that

    THE SCHOOL (MSU) DID NOT TAKE PART IN ANY ILLEGAL ACTIONS. AND ONCE THEY GOT WIND OF WHAT WAS GOING ON THEY REPORTED IT TO THE SEC.

    ____________________________
    Where are you getting that from the NCAA press release? I didn’t see anything in the press release about MSU. I’ve always found it interesting that MSU and their involved alums allege that the “money” meetings with Cecil Newton took place in late November but MSU didn’t report anything while they were still recruiting Cam Newton in December. Instead, they waited until January (after he was no longer interested in MSU and had committed to Auburn) before reporting anything.

  30. evieo says: Dec 1, 2010 3:29 PM

    What is the NCAA, the SEC, the BCS, and the Heisman voters going to do when we learn that Cecil Newton did receive money for church renovations to prevent condemnation by the city? And that these monies came from Auburn alumni.

    Will they continue to say that Cam did not know about it? That there is no proof of his knowledge of such facts?

    Maybe when the IRS and FBI indict Cecil for numerous offenses, then these governing bodies will be forced to acknowledge Cam’s ineligibility.

    This story is a long way from over….

  31. jbq2 says: Dec 1, 2010 3:31 PM

    I guess this means that Reggie Bush gets his Heisman back. It is now irrelevant that his brother in Michigan funneled 250K to Cecil for his church. It is also now irrelevant that Cecil’s trucking company has gone from “backyard” business to “interstate”.

  32. soflatrojan says: Dec 1, 2010 3:31 PM

    Bernieboy,
    The Reggie Bush situation was not a pay for play as he was already at USC when his family started accepting gifts. The street thug who was paying RB was in jail when Reggie signed with USC. USC’s guilt wa that the NCAA felt USC should have known Reggie was on the take.

  33. thompgk says: Dec 1, 2010 3:32 PM

    “Doesn’t that show he knew?”

    Without a recording all that proves is the Dan Mullens wife heard a conversation third hand from someone.

    Do you think that was a recorded quote?

    People are being ignorant about this and there are a lot of really hurt people for some reason.

    There isn’t a single documented piece of evidence even linking his dad to “pay for play”. His dad admitted in a meeting with the NCAA before the UGA game that he and the MSU booster talked about pay for play with other MSU boosters.

    There isn’t a single shred of evidence that money exchanged hands between either school or their boosters.

    The NCAA determined that he was eligible at Auburn and has been this whole time because there was no talk of solicitation with Auburn or extra benefits exchanged.

    Why is that so hard to understand?

    There isn’t a precedent being set. Its just rule interpretation and being up front and honest with the NCAA.

    Also, people thinking that there is “more to come” are going to be really disappointed.

    This is the ruling. The NCAA is not going to release a statement like that without believing it has all the evidence.

  34. dhardy8207 says: Dec 1, 2010 3:35 PM

    “Regarding the involvement of the FBI, I’m not sure what the focus of their investigation would be. I don’t know that soliciting (or even accepting) money for playing football is against the law (would have to be a federal and not a state law) even thought it would be against NCAA rules. It would be against the law to receive payment (if any money was actually received) and not report it as income but I think the IRS would investigate that instead of the FBI.”

    You are correct! Which is why I stated there is more to this and you better bet men with deep deep pockets are involved. Reggie Bush’s parents took a $500,000.00 house to live in for 3 years, but the FBI again was never called in…

    The NCAA may have ruled on this to step out of the investigation to not hender the FEDS part. Auburn would have a huge gripe if the NCAA didn’t declare him eligible with the limited information they have at this point. You can be assured the FBI is not going to jeopardize their part of this like releasing details prematurely just so some football fans are satisfied or till all parties involved have been adequately investigated. I think in the end we will find out that this is way deeper than one greedy pastor and his “uniformed son”.

  35. xli2006 says: Dec 1, 2010 3:51 PM

    Oh wow.

    There are either 2 things going on here:

    -The NCAA is really, really dumb
    -The NCAA doesn’t want the BCS tarnished any more than it already is

    The best thing that could have happened for the legitimacy of the BCS (if there is any) and justice for all players not involved in “pay-for-play” (99.99999% of athletes) would have been for Auburn to lose to Alabama (or SC).

    A National Title is about to be tarnished… again. The NCAA learned close to zero from the Reggie Bush saga.

    The NCAA just ruled Enes Kanter and Guy-Marc Michel ineligible because they played against some Pros in Europe. Meanwhile Ol’ Man Newton is hands out to schools for his kids “services”.

    The NCAA Investigative Committee is a joke.

  36. dhardy8207 says: Dec 1, 2010 3:54 PM

    Also I’m anxious to hear what Gene Chisnik has to say… He was positive in every press conference that he had talked with Cecil Newton and was certain that nothing wrong took place with Cam’s recuitment! I believe he called this a “witchhunt” of an upstanding young man and his “family”. You also expect one to believe that momma Newton didn’t know what occured, most women handle the household and its expenses. Did she not get suspicious when all of a sudden the church is fixed and his trucking business quadroupled in employees, and what of Cam’s statement in his interview back in September that he’s very close to his parents? Thats laughable now since we are all of a sudden distancing ourselves from Pastor Newton. Does that mean Cam needs to also, if thats so Christmas will suck for junior.

  37. proppilot says: Dec 1, 2010 4:42 PM

    They learned even less if listening to xli2006 and dhardy8207……….assumptions and half information. Do you really think the investigation, the real one that has been going on now for more months than anyone has mentioned shows any real wrong doing on the part of Auburn or Cam. Did Daddy Newton talk about $$, yes….but nothing traded hands, no exchanges, capital influx to trucking business or fixed baptistry, nothing. The crime is to do the same stupid crap that the media has done from the start….let’s just assume guilt and have trial in the media with not an ounce of corroborating evidence.

    And the FBI’s involvement has more to do with private information leaked from University of Fla on student records than anything else…..you guys are getting your information and suppositions confused…….

  38. dapell says: Dec 1, 2010 5:02 PM

    5-star recruit on Signing Day:

    “I left the decision on where I should play completely up to my parents. I have no idea why, but they selected the University of Buffalo over Virginia Tech, Florida, USC, Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, Stanford, Nebraska, Texas, Notre Dame, and a few other offers I have. I trust my parents’ judgement though. Just this morning they gave me a brand new car with some sweet 20″ rims and a pimped out stereo system. Again, I have no idea how they came up with the money to buy that car, but I’m excited to play for the University of Buffalo. That’s in Canada right? I’ve never been there. Is their mascot a Buffalo?”

  39. WingT says: Dec 1, 2010 5:35 PM

    SEC commissioner Mike Slive said in a statement. ”The actions taken by Auburn University and Mississippi State University make it clear this behavior will not be tolerated in the SEC.”

    —————————————————–
    Really Mike? Those actions may make it clear but is that going to deter others in the future? I doubt it.

    And what exactly does “Auburn has limited Cecil Newton’s access to the athletics program mean?”
    What are the limits?

    This whole Cam Newton story should never have hit the public in the first place.

    And BTW, who leaked the story in the first place?

    We need to figure out who leaked it and limit their access to their athletic program also.

    Finally, why couldn’t the NCAA have made Cam ineligible last Friday – that would have been my choice for his “day of ineligibility ”
    :)
    Roll Tide

  40. gamustangdude says: Dec 1, 2010 6:36 PM

    @dapell

    That would be funny if money did infact change hands between Cam’s dad and MSU. But given that he plays for Aurburn, i’m going to assume that didn’t happend. But thanks for the “Read My post I’m an Idiot” show.

  41. hawkinsob says: Dec 1, 2010 7:07 PM

    SEC commissioner Mike Slive said in a statement. ”The actions taken by Auburn University and Mississippi State University make it clear this behavior will not be tolerated in the SEC.”

    Really? What “actions” is this guy talking about? Cam’s Dad has now admitted guilt, and he’s banned from practice? Wow. That’ll teach him.

    All the would-be Cecil Newton’s out there just learned an important lesson–go for it. The worst that will happen is that you’ll get caught and they’ll ban you from practice. That’s about it.

  42. jonanthans says: Dec 1, 2010 7:17 PM

    I work with an Auburn grad and fan, and at least I can give him credit, he is one of the very few that believes Cam should have never been allowed to take the field. Even if AU wins the NC, it will be with an asterik, and will always be a tainted title. I’m surprised TCU, Stanford and Wisconsin, or better yet their conferences, arent calling for an immediet investigation, one of those three schools are being robbed of a chance to play for the NC and being robbed of millions of dollars. The SEC’s hands are so dirty on this, its ridiculous.

  43. pcolanole says: Dec 1, 2010 7:44 PM

    Alot o people seem to be missing the point here. This whole ineligible/reinstatement dance is just procedural. The school needed to do it because of the facts about daddy and at this time, with no evidence Cam knew about it, the NCAA had no reason not to reinstate upon request. Sure it was all planned out but that is how this kind of thing works. Newton has not been “cleared” and could very well end up being declared ineligible for the whole season down the road at which time games will be forfeited and sanctions imposed. Auburn is just papering their file, that’s all. This is far from over.

  44. rebalynne says: Dec 1, 2010 8:28 PM

    SOOOOOOOO sad. He’s as guilty as SIN! If he gets the award, sooner or later he will be giving it back. NICE COMMITTEE.. Idiots.

    Never compromise MSU’s integrity. The Bulldogs ROCK!

  45. rebalynne says: Dec 1, 2010 8:30 PM

    Deb, you would let Ted Bundy get away with his crimes with your INNOCENT, INNOCENT worthless cries. Grow up and get a clue. Are you blonde?

  46. ksayac says: Dec 1, 2010 8:37 PM

    “…we have insufficient evidence…”

    Did we not learn anything from Detective Nordberg?

    “Not Guilty” DOES NOT equal “Innocent”

    Cam is hands down the best college football player right now. And Auburn is a great team with him.

    But seriously, Auburn fans, the amount of denial from you here is astounding.

  47. gomichigan says: Dec 1, 2010 8:40 PM

    I thought if anyone was involved, a family member, friend, future agent, it was against the rules. College is no different from the NFL, the want to keep there best players on the field?

  48. noleman says: Dec 1, 2010 8:43 PM

    What a joke!! and the NCAA takes 14 games from Bowden. Where is the justice.

  49. drexelvol says: Dec 1, 2010 9:22 PM

    No question he’ll be leaving for the NFL after this season. He’s got to get out before the real evidence comes to light.

  50. pricecube says: Dec 1, 2010 10:38 PM

    The reason this is being swept under the rug for now is obvious. If Cam is ineligible it greatly increases the likelihood of Auburn losing. This creates any number of possible outcomes that rock the BCS boat. TCU plays an AQ and gets blown out … low ratings, boring NC game… TCU plays an AQ team and wins… non AQ schools demand playoff… BCS is exposed as farcical etc. I realize this all sounds like a conspiracy theory but it sure would explain a lot. When it is admitted as fact that Cam’s father was soliciting money this should be a done deal. Cam should be ineligible… especially with his track record (known thief, cheater). If not what prevents anyone from having their parents solicit money and then claiming ignorance? How stupid! The whole situation is unbelievable.

  51. Walk says: Dec 1, 2010 11:06 PM

    Backing up a bit does anyone know why cam was declared ineligible for a day? I know it depends on why he was declared ineligible but if a player is declared ineligible doesn’t that players team have to forfeit any previous winning games he played in? It seems really odd but it seems like they are saying he was only ineligible for a 24 hour period and that makes me want to know why.

  52. southernmisssteeler says: Dec 1, 2010 11:44 PM

    The fact of the matter is that rules were broken and whether or note Cam knew himself about it or not should not be a factor. The NCAA and SEC should be ashamed of themselves. USC, SMU, and any other players or schools that have been ruled ineligible or placed under sanctions should gather and file a class action lawsuit against the NCAA. The problem is that this stuff goes on in the SEC all the time. It is amazing the media builds up the SEC all the time, but if you are outside the SEC looking in this type of thing is nothing new, it is all old hat. I say the NCAA either needs to abide by their own set rules or get rid of them. Just another example of players taking advantage of loopholes as opposed to having to pay the consequences. First Masoli now Cam Newton. It isn’t like either one of these guys are of high social ilk either. They both have the penchant for stolen laptops. My guess as in their cases the apples don’t fall from the tree. Sad that Cecil Newton is a minister with influential abilities over a group of people that unfortunately place their trust in him. His congregation should walk out while he is in a sermon.

  53. Deb says: Dec 1, 2010 11:58 PM

    @1990tiger …

    Re the FBI: They’ve been investigating a group caught trying to bribe state legislators to legalize gambling in Alabama. Some of those involved are prominent Auburn boosters. Although the primary booster named in the investigation has denied any involvement with a pay-for-play scheme involving Newton and Auburn, there’s some reason the FBI has strayed into this territory. I’ve heard talk about gambling establishments in Mississippi being used to pay players. It may be just talk–or that could be why they’ve gotten involved.

    That’s why everyone should wait and let the investigation run its course. Of course, the Feds’ first priority is to build a solid gambling case, so they’ll take their own sweet time. One thing I’ll say for Auburn–they’ve done well so far at ignoring any outside distractions. So I doubt this will have an impact on the team’s play going forward.

  54. davep60 says: Dec 2, 2010 12:05 AM

    The onus is on the NCAA to prove that Newton knew about what his father had done. I am sure they see that it will not be an easy thing to prove. In the mean time they have been threatened with a wooper of a law suit if they wrongfully suspend a star player before one of the biggest games of the year. Bottom line is, they are running scared.

  55. confused731 says: Dec 2, 2010 4:41 AM

    According to SEC commissioner Slive, the SEC is not an investigative body. They pass information on to the NCAA to be investigated. Prior articles state the individual school determines a student athletes eligibility.

    According to the above article, the NCAA on Monday determined a violation had occurred. On Tuesday, Auburn declared Newton ineligible based on the violations verified by the NCAA and Auburn asked the NCAA for reinstatement. Wednesday, the NCAA reinstated Newton.

    Wonder what the ‘violation of amateurism rules’ was about….

  56. mpmorrow says: Dec 2, 2010 7:54 AM

    like father like son…. B S!!! Sure the kid didn’t know what dad was doing!!

  57. dhardy8207 says: Dec 2, 2010 10:18 AM

    “They learned even less if listening to xli2006 and dhardy8207……….assumptions and half information. Do you really think the investigation, the real one that has been going on now for more months than anyone has mentioned shows any real wrong doing on the part of Auburn or Cam”

    All I can say for you my friend is “denial is a form of insanity”.

    Whether the information floating throughout the state is completely accurarate we wont know until the FBI finishes their case. As for Auburn University I would like to think if something did go down they were oblivious to it, however note that if a booster arranged something and got this kid there according to NCAA bylaws through “any one representing or connected with the player” then that is a violation. Rev. Newton by his son’s admission made the decision of where he went to school. I find it hard to believe that there was a $$$$ amount tied to MSU only. What happened between December when the “now admitted” conversation took place and January when out of nowhere Cam enrolls at Auburn that the money was no longer a necessity for a commitment?

    Look dude it sucks that a school can get popped for something that a booster does but it happens and thats what makes you a true fan that through good and bad you stick behind your team. The fact still remains there have been many many NCAA investigations into players, boosters, and universities all over this country and rarely is the FBI involved. I hope that once this is over Auburn doesn’t bare the brunt of something they couldn’t have known about and they don’t end up like USC removing any memory of Cam Newton’s brief presence.

  58. tigerdave2 says: Dec 2, 2010 10:19 AM

    Two questions arrise in my mind. One: What will happen if the FBI find a link (money trail) from an Auburn booster to the Newtons?
    Two: How much money would it take to buy the NCAA committiee that reinstated him behind closed doors?

    I’m just saying.

  59. proppilot says: Dec 2, 2010 10:20 AM

    The “amateurism rules” was due to Cecil Newton being declared an Agent by the NCAA, with or without Cam’s knowledge, and this effects the status of Cam…..which is why Auburn then declared him ineligible and then requested a ruling from the NCAA who in turn declared him eligible due to lack of any credible evidence Cam had knowledge of his Dad’s actions.

    mpmorrow…….very presumptive on your part. I suppose all individuals involved in this investigation, which has been going on since the first of the year, simply don’t know what they’re doing or how to conduct a complete investigation……unless there is credible evidence to the contrary I wouldn’t be so quick to judge. The media’s already proven how stupid that looks and individuals are following suit far too often….

  60. proppilot says: Dec 2, 2010 10:26 AM

    dhardy8207……agreed but the FBI’s involvement here isn’t over recruiting, it’s over the issues of privacy information from Florida being leaked and there is a separate investigation of the gambling issues that do not involve Auburn or the athletic program. People are taking 2 or 3 different issues and investigations and mixing them to make the story they want to post in the press. IF it is later found that Cam or Auburn was involved in this to any degree I am sure the penalties will be both swift and severe, as they should be…..however at this point in time that does not look to be the case and there is absolutely no credible evidence to indicate this is the issue…….Cam and Auburn have been tried and convicted in the press and public opinion (idiots like Thayer Evans and Shaud) based on supposition and hearsay.

  61. PanchoHerreraFanClub says: Dec 2, 2010 10:55 AM

    You can’t stop the money. Too much money will be lost by the BcS if Cam can’t play. So, we may have yet another year without a national champion in CFB. Oh wait, we will have a national champion right after the game and then before the Final Four, the national championship will get yanked because of NCAA issues. How sweet it is! The way that NCAA is looking out for all of us, they should be doing the airport screening instead of the TSA. All college football fans bend over and grab your ankles. The NCAA has a big surprise for you. Just leave your money on the table.

  62. alberto05 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:37 AM

    What the NCAA seems to be saying is that parents can solicit any amount of money for their kids’ services as long as they don’t tell the kid they are doing it…. or as long as the kid claims he knows nothing about this. If that is the case, there is no penalty at all for the student athlete.

    Nice precendent.

    Auburn is probably clean in this. There is a possibility that Cam is clean as well (smaller one).

    However, on the surface you have a situation where a father was asking for money for his son to go the a university.

    There was no punishment for this by the NCAA. He was reinstated after one day.

    So bribing kid’s parents to go to a school is 100% ok. Bribing a kid’s parents to leave a school early for the NFL is much worse in the NCAA’s eyes, and they will do their best to destroy a school if that happens (USC). To me, it would seem that is a far lesser crime, as a kid leaving early is hurting the school, while the bribes to get a kid to enroll in a school could well mean a MNC for Auburn.

    At USC, it was a situation where a father was asking for money from ex-cons for his son to leave a university early. The NCAA came up with zero proof (except for one crazy picture), that USC knew anything about this. They got the second-worst sanctions in NCAA history.

    Along with every other writer outside of a portion of Alabama, I’m having trouble figuring this out.

    It has all be said before, but the NCAA penalizes schools depending upon who they like and who they don’t like. Luckily, Auburn is the in SEC, and Paul Dee is simply not going to touch a team in that league.

  63. dhardy8207 says: Dec 2, 2010 11:41 AM

    proppilot:

    You made 2 statements as follows:

    ” Do you really think the investigation, the real one that has been going on now for more months than anyone has mentioned shows any real wrong doing on the part of Auburn or Cam”

    Answer: Do you know how long it took for the NCAA to get to the bottom of the Reggie Bush investigation? Serveral Years

    “however at this point in time that does not look to be the case and there is absolutely no credible evidence to indicate this is the issue”

    Answer: Key words here “at this point”.

    Again, I hope your right about Auburn, I hate to see any University get nailed for inappropriate behavior that they knew nothing about.

    But I have to ask you since your so offended by anyone proposing that Cam could be guilty as well.

    1) Does it not play into Cam’s credibility that he has lied to authorities before? The lap top situation.

    2)That he has lied to his former professors to the extent that had he not fled UF he would have been expelled.

    This is a young man that is not naive to the way the law works. He was not prosecuted for the lap top because he had no previous criminal history so he received what they call “deferred prosecution”. I’m sure he paid a fine and did some community service of some sort as punishment.

    So now we’ve dodged having a criminal record so we then go on to try and decieve the authority at UF within the classroom. It would make it a whole lot easier to believe in him and that he did not know if he didn’t have a history of being dishonest with those that he answers to.

    Maybe rules were broken in regards to how the information was released and if thats what the FBI feels is worth deferring other matters of most importance to everyone in this country to investigate that as top priority, then I’m certain those responsible will be brought to justice.

  64. gamustangdude says: Dec 2, 2010 12:08 PM

    @dhardy

    “Does it not play into Cam’s credibility that he has lied to authorities before? The lap top situation. ”

    1. Cam didn’t lie. Learn the story before you comment on it, or don’t and look like a jack-ass.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/andy_staples/05/24/newton-auburn/index.html

    2. No money exchanged hands, Even if Cecil went door to door with his hands out, who cares no one paid.

    Most of you are hypocrites, you say one thing but if you were put in that situation 90% of you would do another. Just be honest with yourselves, if anyone should be in trouble it should be cecil, and he should forever be banned from any SEC games.

    But, Cam, accroding to what i’ve read, hasn’t done anything wrong. And to assume makes an ass out of you.

  65. pricecube says: Dec 2, 2010 12:58 PM

    @gamustangdude

    “1. Cam didn’t lie. Learn the story before you comment on it, or don’t and look like a jack-ass.”

    Okay I have read the story. If you take him at his word he bought what anyone would know was a hot laptop. He then painted the laptop a different color and put his name on it. When the police arrived at his door he asked for privacy to make a phone call and threw the laptop out the window and into a dumpster to try and get rid of it. That seems dishonest to me. If he did not know the laptop was stolen why did he then immediately make a phone call to an attorney? I mean one minute he is so naive that he did not know buying a laptop out of the back of a car might be purchasing stolen property and the next minute he has the wherewithal to stall the police, dispose of the evidence and phone one of the better lawyers in town all within a matter of minutes. Granted he does not sound like any kind of Rhodes scholar having disguised the laptop by painting it a different color and putting his name on it … but he does sound like he has a certain degree of street smarts. Furthermore I would consider blatantly cheating academically to be a form dishonesty (lying). Face it. He has a track record as a thief, cheater and liar.

  66. PanchoHerreraFanClub says: Dec 2, 2010 1:22 PM

    @pricecube

    Nice job with gamustangdude. All fans should remember that the NCAA only cares about bringing in the most money for themselves and the member schools. The NCAA does not give two hoots and yippee about its student athletes. It cares about the money. Most of the member schools are the same way. You can count of one hand (with fingers left over), the number of Division I-A NCAA schools that do actually care about the student athletes. To find them, look at the ones with 80%+ graduation rates among football student athletes. Hint, you won’t see any of them at the BcS games.

  67. gamustangdude says: Dec 2, 2010 2:04 PM

    @panch and Pricecube

    Haven’t we all made some mistake in the past? The only difference here is you get to read his on CFT, and then ACT like the Morale Police as if you’ve never done anything wrong in your life. Sure he bought a laptop, probably wasn’t the smartest idea and you’re right, calling the lawyer when the police shows does look suspicious. The key word there is “LOOK” It probably was an AU alum saying hey, AU college guy, get into to trouble don’t hesitate to call. I would’ve called, at 18/19 years old what else would I do being a kid and scared as hell.

    We’ve all made mistakes as a kid, Put your life out there in the public eye and have bloggers comment, I guarantee all comments won’t be positive.

    And last, why the hell are you responding to me in the first place, I was talking to dhardy?
    Next time ask permission first.

  68. pricecube says: Dec 2, 2010 2:37 PM

    @gaymustangdude

    Ask your permission? I don’t need your permission to point out that you are an imbecile. It is self-evident every time you start typing.

  69. gamustangdude says: Dec 2, 2010 5:41 PM

    @pricepube

    Gay mustangdude, I’m sure it takes a lot of brain power to come up with the “Y”without any help.

    The Point is you can pounce on the guy all you want for little transgressions, but we all have them. The sooner posters like you come off their “I’m Mr. do Right” high horse and back to reality, the better off these conversations will be.

    BTW thanks for asking this time. :-)

  70. pricecube says: Dec 2, 2010 6:17 PM

    LOL

    fair enough…

  71. gatorfan1 says: Dec 2, 2010 6:55 PM

    proppilot:

    This theory that you want to propagate about the FBI investigating Florida for student privacy laws is absolutely ridiculous.

    As a matter it is amazing to me all the idiots out there who truly can’t think for themselves and will believe anything on a blog.

    First off genius, let me get this straight. In today’s world of everythng gets leaked (Does Wikileaks ring a bell) you would have us believe that, if in fact Newton was caught cheating, it would take one and a half years for that to be made public.

    Here something to think about, brainless. There are approximately 85 – 95 scholorship players and numerous walk-ons on a college team. That doesn’t include all the other people involved on a daily basis for a Div I program.

    And YOU actually believe that someone would not have leaked this information to the press. Do you really believe all the players close to Newton WOULDN’T know that he was being kicked out over a cheating scandal. You ever been around a bunch of 18-21 year olds?? You don’t think this information wouldn’t have gotten out all over campus and then picked up by every news agency, sports shows and blogs everywhere??? Really, I mean Really???

    In this day and age you’re actually stupid enough to not think for yourself and believe this garbage???

    And you truly believe Urban Meyer would violate student privacy right’s and his head coaching job plus 4 million a year over Cam Newton???

    Then, you would have us all believe, that in 1 month’s time the FBI would be at Florida’s doorstep based on blogs and innuendo.

    Finally, exactly when have you ever seen the FBI involved in student privacy laws??? Please enlighten us.

    Next time try using your brain and stop being so mentally lazy that you can’t read and discern for yourself what is real, and what is “blog sensationalism”!!! Geezzzz.

  72. Deb says: Dec 2, 2010 10:39 PM

    @gatorfan1 …

    Is that what he was talking about when he mentioned some FBI investigation into privacy issues?? ROFL

    Good grief.

    Issues on the pro side are occupying the lion’s share of my blogging time right now, but scanning this thread earlier, I wondered what he was talking about. That’s absurd! Even if a law-enforcement body were going to take interest in whether a state-funded school violated a student’s right to privacy, the FBI wouldn’t have any jurisdiction.

    Where do people come up with this stuff?? The FBI got involved because of the link between Auburn boosters and their gambling investigation. Period. Florida isn’t involved in any of this.

  73. pricecube says: Dec 3, 2010 3:23 AM

    Yes that is what I have read about the FBI involvement. It has something to do with an Auburn super-booster named Bobby Lowder (think of him as Auburn’s version of Logan Young) and a wider investigation into Colonial bank and some kind of alleged fraud… granted this is all conjecture and rumor at this point… but that story makes more sense than any I have heard to explain the FBI interviewing ppl.

  74. dhardy8207 says: Dec 5, 2010 12:07 PM

    @ Gamustangdude:

    “1. Cam didn’t lie. Learn the story before you comment on it, or don’t and look like a jack-ass.”

    I’ve read the story and it always take one ass wipe (yes you read that right) to come on here and try to insult people because they don’t fall for every “woe is me” bit of information about this junior “thug” who has a CRIMMINAL history whether you like or agree with it! He’s also been caught CHEATING academically at UF whether you like it or not, doesn’t matter how the information was released he was almost EXPELLED from school and those are FACTS whether you like it, agree with it, admit it or not those are the FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yes we’ve all been “YOUNG ADULTS” as in he was 18-19 years old and should have known better but most who know better do better after having ONE altercation with any form of THE LAW!!!!

    Calling me and anyone else names doesn’t change the fact that we are all entitled to our opinions of the matters just like you are entitled to yours. Is this some type of childish attempt on your behalf to “bully” people into your way of thinking? If that were the case it didn’t work! It also doesn’t make SCAM SCREWTON any less scrutinized, nor does the FBI (BTW) care for your opinion nor your cry “that he didn’t do it”….

    BTW: my comment you responded too was directed at proppilot, so as for your comment;

    “And last, why the hell are you responding to me in the first place, I was talking to dhardy?
    Next time ask permission first.”

    NEWSFLASH: You butted in when I wasn’t talking to you so your “ask for permission” is bullshit!! Are you in grade school or are you just a hen-pecked hubby who has to ask his little woman for permission to breath?? This just proves you are childish, egotistical, and it takes one jackass to know another!!!!!!!

  75. dhardy8207 says: Dec 5, 2010 12:32 PM

    @ Pricecube:

    Lowder is not the only one their investigating. Milton McGregor is another big fish and he owns a dog track here, one of ony 2 in the state. He’s also a big big Auburn booster who they suspect might have allowed certain folks (besides politicians) to come to the track and gamble on fixed machines. There was a big bust back earlier in the year where they shut his track down until all illegal machines were removed.

    The former mayor of Birmingham got caught up in this and is now in prison serving 835 years, yes you read that right! Imagine how someone facing that amount of time, 60 + years old and up for appeal might want to sing like a canary in order to be granted lienentcy when he goes back before a judge.

    Again, I would hate for Auburn to get caught facing punishment for something they didn’t know and I’m praying they don’t connect these boosters and any underhanded dealings to any AU staff. If they manage to connect this to even one AU staffer or recruiter for the athletic department, AU will face sanctions that will make USC’s look like a picnic!

  76. gamustangdude says: Dec 5, 2010 1:03 PM

    @dhardy

    That was a sad attempt I guess of “shutting me up” Is that what you were trying to do? Make me fell bad? Well, it didn’t work however your ignorance is hysterical.

  77. gatorfan1 says: Dec 5, 2010 4:37 PM

    dhardy8207:

    You’re another one who keeps propagating ridiculous rumors and innuendo.

    Re-read my post to proppilot. You have no idea what your talking about!! You accuse other people of believing everything on a blog but yet you & proppilot are the poster children for “believing anything” that fits your criteria.

    I do not believe Newton was caught cheating at Florida. It’s been a month since that came out, you don’t believe people wouldn’t be trying to verify that???

    Plus it wouldn’t be the FBI looking into this, but I damn well guarantee you that Newton’s lawyer would have already suppoened Florida for his records and filed suit against the school if his records were released.

    THAT’S a fact!! And again, just as I told proppilot; stop being so mentally lazy that you can’t discern the truth from fiction!!

  78. dhardy8207 says: Dec 5, 2010 10:06 PM

    @ gatorfan1:

    Contrary to what you might think, I didn’t gather my info from a blog/blogs. The things that are listed in mine and several other people who are from this state comments, are things that are circulating within the various news outlets and other sources.

    If you go back and read my post, not once did I say the FBI was investingating the Newton/Florida situation, my comment states that the FBI was involved because of other indisgretions that several Auburn boosters are caught in! (Lowder, McGregor)

    Not sure who your sources are or if you have any and you’re on here just to blow smoke and hope it blinds folks to thinking you know everything there is to know about Cam and the Auburn situation.

    I agree all the facts haven’t come out, but you should really read and reread someones comment thoroughly before you accuse them of something they didn’t say!! Keep it straight there partner since everyone else lacks the insight you do!!!

  79. gatorfan1 says: Dec 6, 2010 9:42 AM

    dhardy8207:

    Hey partner, you’re the one who says it’s a FACT that Newton was caught cheating AND almost expelled!! Where’s your proof??? Blogs & Innuendo??? Oh yeah…you have people’s comments from this state!!

    Wow, that must mean it is true!! Some people who know some people, who know some other people, who know some other people, who of course know THE people have told you it’s true. So it must be!!!

    My whole point is nothing makes sense concerning the supposed cheating part of this sordid episode with Newton.

    By now, somehow there would be verification of this and there hasn’t been. Plus his lawyer has made NO attempt to suppoena academic records OR put Florida on notice that he plans to sue for releasing confidential student information. Can you explain that??? No I didn’t think so. Again, try using your brain next time instead of being a rumor monger and gossiping like a little high school girl.

    Your the one trying to ACT as if you have insight when you don’t have a clue and refuse to use your brain, and now your trying to save face because you look like an idiot!!!

  80. dhardy8207 says: Dec 7, 2010 11:34 AM

    @ gatorfan1

    It is a FACT that Cam was caught cheating at Florida! His attorney hasn’t made a statement to deny that, he hasn’t made a statement to deny that! Why???? Because they are trying to let this thing die quietly!! The longer its in the media mainsteam and people are still talking the more attention gets thrown on the situation, the longer an investigation continues!

    IF he was not guilty of cheating his lawyer would have been all over it, its slander and if there is no validity to it then he would win a suit against UF hands down! Thats sounds like the perfect money solution to his father’s greediness! UF would pay 10 times what he ask for to pimp his son out if this was all defamation of his character, all lies!! They would pay big bucks just to settle and keep it out of court! So if he’s so innocent of everything then why hasn’t his team of addorners taken action to save his character??

    You can call me all the names you won’t but it still wont’ change the fact that so much surrounding these incidents have yet to come to light. One thing for sure when you go to the extreme of pimping your child out for money it seems all the “lies”, rumors” and innuendo” would be a perfect lottery for Pappy Newton to capitalize on!

    I’m long out of high school and if your not into gossip and rumors why the hell are you on here idiot!!! Read the tab at the top it says “latest news and rumors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  81. gatorfan1 says: Dec 7, 2010 2:54 PM

    dhardy8207:

    I’m the idiot!!! Boy, you just can’t think independently for yourself can you???

    You just agreed that the father pimps out his son. The ONLY way Florida would pay an out of court settlement WOULD be if Newton’s lawyer filed suit!!! Moron.

    The school could not reach a settlement “behind the scenes” because a PUBLIC University could not enter into that type of an agreement without it becoming public knowledge. It’s a state run university. A board would have to convene to pay an out of court ruling.

    The only way for there to be any type of payment would be IF Newton’s lawyer filed suit for illegally releasing private student information!! But since he was NOT caught cheating it is a non-issue.

    My god you are clueless!!!

    ps. So I guess with your last statement about this site being “latest news & rumors”you admit that you spread rumors. Thanks, that was my whole point!!

    And I’m also long out of high school. And in the companies I have worked for, it IS looked down upon “men” who have the need to spread rumors & gossip.

    Very unbecoming of a man who uses this sort of thing to get ahead. Why don’t you just put on a wig and dress so you can keep gossipping with the ladies in the office. Maybe you can get a good recipe out of it, or better yet, get in touch with your feminine side. Freakin girl!!!

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