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Irish paid big, big bucks to rid themselves of Weis

Charlie Weis

By the time Charlie Weis’ five-year tenure at Notre Dame had come to a merciful end in November of 2009, it was readily apparent that the school — and the fan base — was ready to hit the reset button and rid themselves of the head coach.

Boy, were they ever ready to rid themselves of their head coach.

Federal tax documents obtained by the Chicago Tribune show that Notre Dame made a termination payment of $6,638,403 to Weis sometime after he and the school parted ways.  And that was just an initial termination payment; the documents also reveal that Weis will receive “much smaller annual payments through December, 2015″ as part of his severance package.

Weis, who spent a year with the Kansas City Chiefs after his Irish departure and is now the offensive coordinator at Florida, signed a 10-year contract extension in the middle of his first season with the Irish in 2005 that was slated to run through the 2015 season.

So, for posting a 35-27 mark as the Irish coach, including an abysmal 16-21 record his last three years in South Bend, Weis will receive in excess of $7 million above and beyond what he was paid in salary during those five years?  And the school is also paying for a new head coach as well?

On top of that, Weis is also pulling in $765,000 in the first year of his new gig with the Gators, with contractually guaranteed raises of $100,000 in each of the next two seasons.

Yeah, based on this latest round of financial nonsense, I think this sudden push to “bridge the gap” when it comes to a player’s scholarship and the actual cost of living is making more and more sense with each passing minute.

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32 Responses to “Irish paid big, big bucks to rid themselves of Weis”
  1. ndreece says: May 20, 2011 11:11 AM

    Worth the money, if you ask me, to get rid of him.

  2. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 20, 2011 11:26 AM

    He had a winning record, didn’t break NCAA rules, and didn’thad a clean program.
    The school paid him accordingly when it decided they were no longer a match.

    A certain coach in the BIG 10 Conference breaks NCAA rules, LIES to investigators and the school STILL refuses to terminate him even though it has grounds for a just termination.

    The difference between class coaches and class schools.

  3. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 20, 2011 11:27 AM

    And CLASSLESS coaches an CLASSLESS schools

  4. garyfromil says: May 20, 2011 11:59 AM

    Why would any school, especially a savvy school like Notre Dame give anyone a 10 year contract extension after half a year? He was working with the other guy’s players when he had most of his success.

    This is not a scandal; he had a contract and the school has to honor it. It is dumb that ND got itself into this situation. They have a long history of horrible coaching hires and coaching decisions.

    Northwestern just locked up Fitzgerald for a long time, but he has been around for a number of years and is a known quantity for coaching and recruiting.

    The college and pro game are different. Many pro coaches don’t do well at the college level and very few college coaches make the transition to the pro level.

    I don’t like ND, but hopefully this new guy will work out for them. The National Title conversation is much more interesting when ND is sitting around near the top. Somebody needs to beat the SEC in a BCS championship game!

  5. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 20, 2011 12:04 PM

    garyfromil says:

    “Somebody needs to beat the SEC in a BCS championship game!”

    ****************************************
    It sure won’t be OSU! They get their overrated tails kicked every time.
    LMAO

  6. rwilsontn says: May 20, 2011 12:33 PM

    Its also important to note that Kevin white (the AD at the time) made Weis’ deal and is also no longer with ND. He was not highly thought of from what I’ve read. FWIW.

  7. mogogo1 says: May 20, 2011 1:38 PM

    As I recall at the time, the immediate extension was fueled by fears that Weis would jump back to the NFL as a head coach. (If Weis’ people were the source of those rumors, they hit the jackpot.) But even knowing the reason they did, it still didn’t make it smart move. 10 years?! Absolutely stupid and it cost them plenty.

  8. mrcowpatty says: May 20, 2011 2:02 PM

    Notre Dame = MSNBC= NBC= GE===Tax write off

  9. huskerguy says: May 20, 2011 2:09 PM

    Hard to win when you can’t cheat.

  10. edgy has an obsession with buckeyeboy being a young girl says: May 20, 2011 2:28 PM

    slllluuuurrrpppp

    do tressels nuts taste good today iamstalkingchildren

  11. man305 says: May 20, 2011 3:20 PM

    Someone should suggest that Coach Weis use some of the bucks Notre Dame is throwing at him to have a gastric bypass procedure. Would it hurt these slobs to pass up a few meals now and then? It (losing the lard) would be the healthy thing for this guy to do, and be a better example for the athletes around him.

  12. lbijake says: May 20, 2011 3:45 PM

    You forgot to take into account the savings by Notre Dame by taking away Charlie’s cafeteria pass. Those triple servings of mashed potatoes and gravy add up.

  13. gamustangdude says: May 20, 2011 3:46 PM

    @buckeyeboy

    don’t worry iamtalking, when it comes to nut-tasting no body knows what buckeyeboy knows.

    As for Weis, ND handled that situation completely wrong. I hope florida does better

  14. iamtalkingsolistenandlearn says: May 20, 2011 3:54 PM

    @gamustang

    Buckeyeboy practices on his Tressel blow up doll every night. The freak done had a mental breakdown and created a dozen new screen names and thinks noone notices.

  15. piratey says: May 20, 2011 4:11 PM

    The real person to blame here is ND’s former AD Kevin White. That POS signed Bob Davie to a 3 year extension the year before he fired him, he hired George O’Leary, he hired Tyrone, he hired charlie and gave him an extension after losing to USC in 05 and changed our scheduling fromat to 7-4-1.(That’s why we ended up with teams like WMU, Tulsa, SDSU, Nevada on our schedule the last 2 years, 7-4-1 means you can’t offer home and homes) Jack Swarbick, his replacement, has since gone to a 6-5-1 scheduling model(scheduled Texas, BYU, Miami and is looking to add any SEC team willing to come north) hired the right coach and has pretty much walked on water.

    The failures of ND over the last decade can be placed directly at the feet of Kevin White.

  16. polegojim says: May 20, 2011 4:32 PM

    No defending the 10 year contract, but some of you guys forgot the setting:

    1) Notre Dame was struggling.
    2) One of their own in Weis, came back with passion, experience, and success to restore performance and pride.
    3) Weis showed early signs of significant improvement— hey, even I was excited to think that the Irish were ‘back’.
    4) Notre Dame AD and boosters then got WAY TOOOOOO excited and offered the contract, feeling that ‘they had their long term Irish Coach’.

    That was the mistake. Even with that, Weis is a very good coach, just not a Head Coach.

    Let’s hope the Irish return to greatness soon. It’s been FAR to long of a draught for such a proud and historically sound program.

  17. overratedgators says: May 20, 2011 5:08 PM

    Wow. Nice work if you can get it, Captain Frontbutt. Wonder how much the Gators will pay you to go away three years from now.

  18. waynefontes says: May 20, 2011 6:21 PM

    huskerguy says:
    May 20, 2011 2:09 PM
    Hard to win when you can’t cheat.
    ————————————————–

    Or when you don’t get rid of women beaters like Lawrence Phillips. Wonder what school did that?

  19. halo81 says: May 20, 2011 6:23 PM

    Congratulations JT, you just posted something that myself and several others posted and/or emailed you as a story that is common knowledge to quite a few people in South Bend.

    Sometimes you and Florio need to get off the high horses and listen to people. This is OLD, STALE news.

    Good to see they came out with sliced bread though.

  20. cometkazie says: May 20, 2011 9:49 PM

    man305 says: May 20, 2011 3:20 PM

    Someone should suggest that Coach Weis use some of the bucks Notre Dame is throwing at him to have a gastric bypass procedure. Would it hurt these slobs to pass up a few meals now and then? It (losing the lard) would be the healthy thing for this guy to do, and be a better example for the athletes around him.
    *-*-*-*-*-*

    Weis had the surgery in 2002 and nearly died, sued the surgeon, and lost the suit.

  21. emperorzero says: May 20, 2011 10:32 PM

    And as we crucify Weis let’s remember he did get ND to two BCS games – even if they got murdered. A BCS game is still a BCS game and the pay check that comes with that is huge for the university.

  22. edgy says: May 20, 2011 11:42 PM

    I hope he sent Ty some of that scratch, since it was his “trash” that won for him.

  23. polegojim says: May 21, 2011 12:12 AM

    @ edg – I believe that’s where Willingham got a bad deal. He did some good stuff.

    Weis and Switzer have that in common. Both won based initially on the shoulders of someone elses work.

    Granted, both also had to execute. There aren’t any gimmee’s in the NFL or NCAA

  24. halo81 says: May 21, 2011 1:05 AM

    @edgy –

    I love your convenient logic on Willingham.

    Weis took Jeff Samardzija, a WR who never played under Ty Willingham at all and turned him into one of the most prolific players in Notre Dame history over one offseason.

    Weis took an average QB in Brady Quinn and made him into the most prolific passer in a single season in Notre Dame history in one offseason.

    22 of 26 members of one of Willingham’s recruiting classes never played at Notre Dame.

    13 of 21 members of another one of Willingham’s recruiting classes never played at Notre Dame.

    Your anti-Notre Dame sentiment is so stale on these boards it’s not even funny, but your lack of facts is so pathetic that it makes you look like as much of an idiot on here as you do on Rivals if you are indeed Edgytim, or EdgyDork as the St. Rita’s coaches call you.

    By the way, Darius Fleming says hello.

    Get your facts straight or go back to the kiddie’s table where you belong.

  25. edgy is under THEE Thumb! says: May 21, 2011 11:36 AM

    edgy has never had a straight fact in his life.

    edgy = IamAdumbassTrollingCFTwhileDreaming OfAgayMustangDude

    E ngrish-speaking
    D iarrhea-mouth
    G ushing
    Y iddishians

  26. edgy says: May 21, 2011 7:22 PM

    halo81 says:

    ****************

    First of all, what does 22 of 26 have ANYTHING to do with people who PLAYED for the Irish? What I talked about were guys who ACTUALLY PLAYED so stop trying to divert the conversation.

    Second, please stop trying to rewrite history. Quinn was a highly sought after QB who was thrust into playing when Holiday was hurt and instead of going back to him after he was well enough to play, Ty kept Quinn in the lineup and Carlyle changed positions. In 2004, Quinn made great strides and he went from 9 TD vs 15 INT to 17 vs 10 and he increased his passing PCT by nearly 7 points. When Weis took over, he increased his passing percentage by 10 points – not much more of an improvement. Also, he inherited a bunch of receivers, running backs and an offensive line that had a lot of experience behind it (Don’t think that means a lot – ask Sam Bradford, who was hurt in the 1st game of the season when his inexperienced OL couldn’t keep the BYU defenders off him). I said that they should hold back judgment until he had to put his own people on the field and look at how quickly that backfired on them when they didn’t and it was Weis, who was among those that were crying about the lack of talent that he was left and building expectations about how great things were going to be once he had his “Gods” in place and look how stupid he and his supporters looked after he couldn’t come through. Now, while I may not agree with how Kelly handled the situation with the kid that died, I see him doing far better than Weis because he’s built several teams from the ground up and the job he did with all the different QBs that he had at Cincinnati was spectacular and last year, he was able to show that he could be just as adaptable at Notre Shame. Oh and he did something that Weis never did – beat USC. Ty’s team didn’t beat USC but then again, they didn’t lose 2 games to Navy, either (With two beat downs of the Middies with Ty’s guys and 2 losses and a close win, with his “Gods”).

    BTW, Samardjiza was more interested in baseball than football and even after he had a chance to go in the NFL draft, he opted for baseball. Had he made a commitment to football early in his career, he would have played more. Oh and you’re DEAD WRONG because he DID play under Ty, just not as much as he could have. Guess you need to go back to the kiddie’s table. Also, while I’m not a fan of Notre Shame, I am defending one of its coaches and praising another, just not your God-maker.

    An average comparison of the Ty years vs the Weis and Quinn years vs the Weis and his “Gods” years:

    Passing Offense:
    
    Att Com Yard   YPC TD Int
    370 187 2343 12.51 13  14
    
    Att Com Yard   YPC TD Int
    463 292 3698 12.66 35  8
    
    Att Com Yard   YPC TD Int
    427 263 3025 11.50 22  10
    
    Rushing Offense:
    
    Att Yard   Avg TD
    480 1754  3.65 15
    
    Att Yard   Avg TD
    451 1717  3.81 18
    
    Att Yard   Avg TD
    417 1324  3.18 12
    
    Combined Offense:
    
    Play Yard   Avg TD
     850 4098  4.82 28
    
    Play Yard   Avg TD
     913 5415  5.93 52
    
    Play Yard   Avg TD
     844 4349  5.15 34
    

    Like it or not, it was Ty’s guys, who did the job for Weis and while Weis had a better last year, it was because he had to endure 2 years of growth by his “Gods”, which is what Ty had to do with his guys and Weis got to benefit from that. Clearly, when Weis had to develop his own guys, he didn’t do any better than Ty did and his rushing offense stunk with HIS GUYS. Hell, even with Ty’s guys, his rushing offense averaged 3.73 and 3.90 yards per carry and his guys averaged 2.23, 3.37 and 3.99 yards per carry. Also, the reason why I show yards per completion, is to show that while Ty was willing to let Quinn go down field as a freshman (11.66 yards per completion), Weis babied Clausen though his freshman season (9.09 yards per completion) and he was also more cautious with Quinn as a senior when he lost nearly 2 yards per completion from the previous year and Notre Shame scored even less.

    Fake edgy, why don’t you keep your mouth shut and be thought of as a fool instead of opening it up and proving everyone right.

  27. edgy is under THEE Thumb! says: May 21, 2011 8:30 PM

    real edgy = IamAdumbassTrollingCFTwhileDreaming OfAgayMustangDude

    Every time you open your mouth you prove yourself to be a fool.

    Have fun getting your freak on while practicing nut-tasting on the GayMustangDude, one of your 20 CFT screen names you have that you think no one knows is really you edgy.

  28. dkhhuey says: May 21, 2011 11:28 PM

    Has there been any investigation around how many doughnut and pizza joints went out of business once Jabba the Weis left town?

  29. halo81 says: May 21, 2011 11:48 PM

    Real Edgy is a clown. The guy has been stealing the thunder from 16-year olds for years in the Chicago area, knows nothing about the sport and essentially sits around and has his tug with his boy-toy Chris Pool.

    That’s why everyone thinks he’s a clown. I’m not even from there and I know that.

    Keep being Notre Dame Hitler though … your zog machine is … well … not working. LOL.

  30. ernestbynershands says: May 21, 2011 11:52 PM

    Notre Dame isn’t paying Weis. According to the separation agreement, ND will pay off all of Charlie’s tabs at the all-you-can-eat buffets around South Bend.

    The best thing to come out of South Bend is an empty bus.

  31. edgy says: May 23, 2011 10:30 AM

    halo81 says:

    **************

    Again, if you’re talking about some guy on another site then you’re NOT talking about me. I’m not that person and believe me, if I were, I’d admit it.

  32. auditurbo says: May 23, 2011 10:05 PM

    sad sad sad he disappointed ND while he was there and he is disappointing ND and hes long gone. Hit the road Charlie and dont come back no more..

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