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Title game rematch coming closer to fruition after OK State loss

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(Next morning writer’s note: I somehow managed to write an entire post-game blog without mentioning the tragic losses of Oklahoma State women’s basketball coach Kurt Budke and assistant Miranda Serna, who died Thursday in a plane crash near Little Rock while on a recruiting trip. That’s completely unacceptable. Our most heartfelt thoughts and prayers go to the family and friends of Budke and Serna, as well as the entire Oklahoma State community, who certainly wishes their biggest problem right now was a football game.)

Well, at least we know who won’t be playing for the national title in a couple months.

Oklahoma State’s stunning 37-31 double overtime loss to Iowa State with just weeks left in the regular season has opened the door even more for a potential rematch between LSU and either Alabama or Oregon. Sitting pretty at No. 2, all the Cowboys had to do was win tonight and two weeks from now against Oklahoma in the Bedlam game; how they win wouldn’t mean a thing.

Exhibit A: even if OSU had pulled out a victory tonight, it wouldn’t have been aesthetically pleasing. Heisman candidate Brandon Weeden threw for nearly 500 yards, but had three interceptions (one of which — his third — wasn’t entirely his fault) and was erratic all night. OSU had five turnovers in all. The Cowboys couldn’t stop the run and were flagged 10 times for 87 yards.

Kicker Quinn Sharp was anything but, missing a crucial field goal over the top of the right goal post with just over one minute left in regulation.

None of that would have mattered had Oklahoma State won.

Tim Tebow can relate. This late in the season? Just win, man.

All of that being said, a ton of credit needs to be given to Paul Rhoads, who continues to crank out upset wins year after year in Ames. There just aren’t many coaches who get more out of their players than Rhoads.

And no teams got more out of tonight’s game than No. 3 Bama and No. 4 Oregon. It’s not quite “BCS chaos OMG!”, but a national title rematch is becoming a much more serious option. First, you have to assume — and that might be dangerous given tonight’s shenanigans — that No. 1 LSU will win the rest of their games. Do that and the Tigers are in without a second thought.

Next, Oklahoma State’s loss could be Oklahoma’s as well. The No. 5 Sooners still hold the honor of this season’s “WTF” award — a 41-38 defeat at the hands of Texas Tech at home — a loss of truly perplexing proportions. Even beating Oklahoma State in two weeks might not be enough to launch OU back into the title picture without some help from either Bama, Oregon or Arkansas.

But here’s what the Sooners do have going for them:

1. The BCS computers heart Oklahoma State. Win Bedlam and maybe… maybe… OU has a shot. Again, this may not be enough by itself.

2. The human element. Will voters give OU a boost if the thought of a rematch becomes too nauseating?

3. Cheerleading, upstaging and maybe a little black JuJu. OU has to become Arkansas’ biggest fans. If the Hogs can beat LSU in two weeks, then we can officially uncork the “BCS chaos” bubbly. With no undefeated teams left in the national title picture, OU has one thing Oregon — dangerously assuming again that the Ducks go undefeated from here on out — does not: a Saturday game during the first weekend in December. The Pac-12 championship game is Friday, Dec. 2; Bedlam is Dec. 3. There’s a chance, no matter how small, that the Sooners could be a little fresher in the minds of voters if they have a strong showing.

But perhaps we’re getting ahead of ourselves. If nothing else goes banana nuts in the next few weeks, the rematch scenario remains viable. In that case, which criteria do you use? A conference champion (Oregon), or margin of defeat (Alabama)?

Good thing every week matters, right?

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93 Responses to “Title game rematch coming closer to fruition after OK State loss”
  1. daweapon says: Nov 19, 2011 1:02 AM

    Go cyclones!

  2. wustlgrad says: Nov 19, 2011 1:03 AM

    If USC beats Oregon and LSU gets beat by the Hogs the Bob Stoops boys are in. I’m saying it here–I think USC will have a very good chance at beating the Ducks and I think I can hear the pigs being called by UA fans already! The Hogs will beat LSU. Therefore, Bama vs. The Sooners just like everyone predicted preseason.

  3. norcalirish says: Nov 19, 2011 1:09 AM

    Am I the only one that thought that end of regulation field goal deserved a second look?

  4. jonanthans says: Nov 19, 2011 1:11 AM

    Seriously. Stop and ask yourself how many quality teams has Arky played?

    1, and they got beat down like they stole something. LSU wins that game by 17.

    The battle for the #2 slot for the NC game is between Bama/Oregon/OU and believe it or not, Clemson.

    Bama stumbles against Auburn, USC handles Oregon, OSU beats OU, and LSU/Clemson plays for the NC.

    craziness, just like ’07

  5. txnative61 says: Nov 19, 2011 1:33 AM

    Then there’s Georgia, who could beat LSU in the SEC championship. Ha Ha Ha Ha. This year seems determined to piss everybody off. Screw the BCS, yah!

  6. coolgato13 says: Nov 19, 2011 1:38 AM

    Let chaos rule! Then maybe we`ll finally get a four-team playoff!

  7. suprmous says: Nov 19, 2011 1:41 AM

    wustlgrad and txnative please tell me you 2 haven’t lost your last ounzes. There’s no way LSU can lose to either the Hogs or to Ga. But txnative I’ll agree with ya on your point that this yr seems determined to piss everybody off. We’ve had our share of it in Baton Rouge for damned sure. For every damned time the BCS has pissed us off I’d like to strangle some folks. But c’mon guys they’ve managed to do it to everybody so it seems. But the things we don’t fear: next weekend with the Hogs, a rematch with Bama or the Quackers and not to mention Stoops and OU, or even playing Ga. So you see there’s not much room for error. GEAUX TIGERS the LSU variety

  8. tigersgeaux says: Nov 19, 2011 1:42 AM

    Where are all the Oklahoma State fans promoting them as the team to defeat LSU because they were pass first. Poor evaluation and predictions. Oklahoma State was defeated by 4 loss Iowa State who lost to: Texas, Baylor, Mizzou, and Texas A&M.

    LSU’s defense would have had at least the number of takeways as did 4 loss Iowa State! Likely more. Some folks live in a fantasy world until reality like this happens.

  9. webfootdoug58 says: Nov 19, 2011 1:57 AM

    Let’s stop a moment to congratulate Iowa State for the upset of the year, playing almost perfect second half and OTs, and to honor both teams for a really great game…..and recognize OSU for their family tragedy.

    This only makes Saturday’s USC-Oregon game even bigger than it already was, which is that it’s really the PAC 12 N-S Conference Championship game, as USC, the worthy South champion, isn’t eligible for post season play–a win for the Trojans could make their season. And they’ve got the horses to do it.

    For Oregon, this could be their last real chance to prove they belong in that BCS championship game ahead of Alabama or the other one loss teams.
    Unless, of course, something else bizarre happens.

    In either case it’s gonna be a hot one!

  10. jonanthans says: Nov 19, 2011 3:33 AM

    LSU runs the table to the NC game

    the fight is for the #2 slot

  11. alligatorsnapper says: Nov 19, 2011 7:27 AM

    ESPN commentators:

    LSU is going to lose to Alabama, they can’t win. Alabama has a much better defense. LSU can’t score on their defense. Alabama’s players a bigger and stronger. wrong! LSU wins 9 -6, two in a row, and 9 of the last 12 verses Alabama…that is a 75% winning percentage. Many want a rematch. As southernpatriots posted, we have a rematch with Alabama every year, every year!

    LSU would lose to Oklahoma State. Their defense could not stop the “pass first” offense of Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State is the class of college football now. wrong! Oklahoma State loses to Iowa State with 4 loses and unranked. Iowa State’s defense picks off and wins. LSU’s defense would have smothered Oklahoma State with pick 6s, takeaways. Offense may win games but defenses win championships.

    LSU will take care of business at Ole Miss, then back home to take care of Arkansas, then to the Atlanta Dome to win the SEC. Then rest up and practice for the big dance in New Orleans. That’s what all Tiger fans are believing will happen.

    That is much more realistic than some of this infantile junk being posted on this blog. If everyone had to put money on what they predict, these more extreme scenarios would never make it to the post.

  12. woebegong says: Nov 19, 2011 8:06 AM

    It seems Like Oklahoma St. has a tendency to some times play down to it’s opponent or at least its defense does. Letting teams like Tulsa, Kansas State and even Louisiana Lafayette put up a bunch of points on them indicates a problem. It is great that your offense can put up 52 points against the team, but if your defense gives up 48, it becomes a problem you might want to address. Defense wins championships and it is obvious that Okie State has a few of them this year.
    Until somebody figures how to beat LSU’s defense, they are on top of the pile right now. Test their defense and their offense will probably not be able to win the game for them, but with that defense, how much do they need?

  13. waldoampere says: Nov 19, 2011 8:22 AM

    Please no LSU-Alabama rematch. I can’t watch another four hour FG battle.

  14. raiderredleg says: Nov 19, 2011 8:45 AM

    A terrible and sad 24 hour period for Okie State. ISU definitely caught them at the perfect time. Wish the commentators last night would have spent more time discussing the FG that crossed the uprights but was NOT GOOD, but Okie State lost the game in so many ways that the program will look back and see it as the point that it missed its best chance EVER to win a NCAA football championship.

    A rematch with Les Miles (especially if anyone remembers how he acted prior to Alamo Bowl game before he took the LSU job) would have been a great storyline (on top of having a program that has NEVER had a chance win a championship EVER).

    Again great win by ISU, but a disaster for the Big 12 Conference overall. Bedlam (unless ALOT of one loss teams other than OU lose between now and then) will not have near the importance it would have and little chance now of having a team in the BCS Championship.

    With so much tradition leaving (Colorado, Nebraska, Texas A&M, and Missouri) just because Texas needs its own network I really wonder how long before I will be seeing OU and Okie State playing in the PAC-12. Been a fan of the conference “formerly known as the Big Eight”, for a LONG time but I am really beginning to wonder if it a “dead conference walking”.

  15. bikerhal says: Nov 19, 2011 8:48 AM


    It wouldn’t surprise me if the score in a rematch would be higher. College football can be unpredictable.

  16. Amadeus says: Nov 19, 2011 9:11 AM

    bama-LSU? The first one was a snoozer. Who wants to see a rematch and a 6-3 game? I’m rooting for Oregon-Oklahoma. 44-40 Sooners.

  17. artisan3m says: Nov 19, 2011 9:13 AM

    No one will agree with me on this ~ but if Houston is the only undefeated team at season’s end, it is pretty sh*tty that they don’t get a shot at the crown. If Houston and LSU are the only two left without a loss, why put in a one loss team? Of course, I know the reason ~ but if season records really don’t mean anything, why keep them? Last night’s Iowa State win proves that nothing can be taken for granted in college football. Its not which two teams are actually most deserving anymore ~ its which two will have the greatest national TV draw. Another way to say it is its not about the records, its all about the money. That will be an even harder sell if Arkansas beats LSU ~ and that
    is improbable but highly possible.

  18. artisan3m says: Nov 19, 2011 9:20 AM

    Oh, one more thought ~ if you think there are some broken hearts in Stillwater today, check out the bookies who lost their butts on last night’s game.

  19. bikerhal says: Nov 19, 2011 9:30 AM

    Wow. I live on the east coast, and before I went to bed I checked on the game. I saw the score was 24-7 and turned it off. Wish I had stayed tuned in.

    This is the best LSU Tiger team ever and I not only believe they can win out I believe they will. In my mind though that isn’t a prediction, I just don’t believe a prediction is anything more than an educated guess. No one can really predict the future. The game with Arkansas looms as big as the one with ‘Bama. It has been a great year for Tiger fans!

  20. bikerhal says: Nov 19, 2011 9:36 AM

    Raider reflex

    Good post. You bring good perspective and more reasons why a playoff is needed.

    Tell me what Les said at the Alamo bowl?

  21. isu1648 says: Nov 19, 2011 9:40 AM

    Every week matters? Not a single mention of an undefeated Houston team in this article. So it seems NONE of their weeks mattered.

  22. bikerhal says: Nov 19, 2011 9:45 AM


    Who? People who love defensive battles, that’s who. Tastes change. Once upon a time defense was admired, but offensive fireworks are the thing now. Go watch basketball if you like points, but don’t assume the same score will re-occur in a rematch. My guess is that the offenses would be better prepared for the opposing defenses. Les plays conservative and the LSU defense offset Nick’s offensive scheme without Julio Jones in the first game. All other sports have best out of playoffs to really see the better team prove itself.

  23. 1historian says: Nov 19, 2011 9:50 AM

    after the way they ran up the score last week against Texas Tech it’s fitting that this should happen to Okie St.

  24. bikerhal says: Nov 19, 2011 9:52 AM

    Exactly why we need playoffs. We should all go out to the streets and protest.

  25. raiderredleg says: Nov 19, 2011 9:53 AM

    @ bikerhal

    Les Miles was leading an up and coming Okie State team that feature some great players and signature wins (including beating OU two out of four years) and his last three years saw Oklahoma State make three straight bowl appearances as well, the first time that has happened since the mid-1980s.

    Before the Alamo Bowl against OSU there was rumors of Miles leaving the program for “greener pastures”, but came out the day before the game and said to his players that there was no truth to them.

    Four days later he was introducted as the next coach of LSU.

    Really can’t blame him of course, but certainly couldn’t have refrained from flat out lying to the same players he recruited and his quick and abrupt exit left the program in a bit of turmoil that took Gundy a few years to fix.

    Guess you could call it “sour grapes” from die hard Okie State fans, but it would have made for an interesting “back story” to a possible OSU-LSU game that already would have the excitement of a high-power offense against a great defense.

    Who knows maybe Arkansas can shock LSU (if ISU can beat Okie State than ANYTHING is possible in DIV I college football) and they might still met in a bowl game.

  26. bikerhal says: Nov 19, 2011 9:59 AM


    No, I did not know that. LSU fans feel that way about Nick Saban. I can understand your disappointment as a fan, wanting some catch back on Les.

    You are definitely right, this season isn’t done by any means. In 2003 LSU lost to Arkansas and appeared out of the running for the NC game but on the last week the BCS computers put them in 2nd position after some key losses by other teams and we beat OK for the NC trophy. You guys ain’t dead yet.

  27. Derty Ernie says: Nov 19, 2011 10:09 AM

    Anything but a rematch. The BCS must be cringing because rematches don’t sell tickets or draw the all important tv audience advertisers are looking for. The reason, we’ve seen them play already so its been there done that.

    The voters will have to sharpen their pens and attitudes the next few weeks to tweek the numbers so bama doesn’t automatically climb that ladder.

    Again, the BCS is a joke. WIth the big 10 and other conferences now having playoffs, of course your going to have losses. 1 or two losses should not be the kiss of death anymore.

  28. thefiesty1 says: Nov 19, 2011 10:37 AM

    It’s too bad OSU came out flat and cost them a chance to play LSU in the NC. That would have been a great game.
    No rematch against Alabama. A great game needs more offense and neither of these two have that this year. Oregon, maybe. That game was a long time ago. But even though I’d prefer to see LSU win it all, it would be better to have everyone with one loss and then blow up the BcS.

    Go to a 16 game playoff, using the “minor” bowls as neutral sites early and give the top 4 a bye. Then use the “major” bowls for the semis and final. The bowls make more money and get some great games. They don’t HAVE TO have all the bowl games in one week.

    Get on with it, that way, it’s done on the field with the best teams surviving.

  29. beerjunkie says: Nov 19, 2011 10:38 AM

    NICE win Iowa State!!!! Period.

  30. akword says: Nov 19, 2011 10:57 AM

    Low scoring or not, the LSU/Bama game was the best matchup all year. I am not an SEC fan, but these two teams are playing in a league of their own right now. Oklahoma St. at number 2 was a joke. BCS rankings are absurd. Boise State in the top 10 was absolutely ridiculous. Running up the score on a bunch of nobodies hardly accounts for anything. (yes I know they beat … Georgia -big deal- in week 1). USC is another chronically over-ranked team. Always starting the season high and never able to even run the PAC 12. Nobody beats Bama or LSU this year, and Bama never should have been ranked less than #2- they lost a squeaker to the best team in the country. A LSU/Oklahoma or Oklahoma St. or anyone else would be a really pathetic national championship game.

  31. alligatorsnapper says: Nov 19, 2011 10:59 AM

    I watched Oklahoma State games this season live and on video. I never saw anything in their offense which impressed me that a good defense could not handle. Oklahoma State had a 4 touch down edge (according the experts) against one of the worst teams in the Big 12. Iowas State has lost 4, lost to Mizzou by how many points? I thought the easiest match for LSU would be Oklahoma State. My thoughts have been borne out in reality.

    The darlings of the bloggers and media talking heads was Boise State and TCU ended their hopes. Then the bloggers and media adopted Oklahoma State, and ISU with its 4 loses and dismal defense ended this infatuation. I thought I would have to wait until big brother Oklahoma played them but they may have 2 loses after that.

    It is so peculiar that these teams are so promoted. Those who want any team other than an SEC team win, be in the BCS NC, etc. But it will likely be Number 6 in a row this year for the SEC and hopefully LSU will be the first team in the BCS era to win 3 national championships, as LSU was the first team to win 2 (and later Florida followed). Keep in mind, LSU has a young team, unlike Alabama. If LSU wins it all this year, they may well be back next year, and the year after, or one of those.

  32. Ben Kercheval says: Nov 19, 2011 11:17 AM


    I forgot to put the “Every week matters, right?” in sarcasm font. My sincerest apologies.

  33. iplaybad says: Nov 19, 2011 11:19 AM

    I’m surprised more Boise State honks aren’t crying for Houston since a win is a win no matter the opposition, right? I’m still spinning on my seat-less bicycle.

    Let’s be real. Up until this point, the second best team in big boy college football has been Alabama. And, it’s not close. It’s not like I’m clamoring for a rematch between LSU and Alabama. But, I do want the best two teams to meet in the BCS Title Game. If we had to decide today, I could not rank any team, save for LSU, ahead of the Tide and keep a straight face.

    If you can, you’d better make some compelling arguments. Bama’s only loss is to the most dominant team of the year in an OT field goal. The score in the LSU-Ducks game was closer than the game was in reality. The rest of the field — OU, Boise, Stanford — have some pretty bad losses on their resumes.

  34. cfbfaninbadnfltown says: Nov 19, 2011 11:36 AM

    @ Ben Kercheval

    Why isn’t anyone telling about this story on CFT:

    About the BCS giving up on all the bowls except the National Championship?

  35. Ben Kercheval says: Nov 19, 2011 11:46 AM

    John hit on a similar topic a little over a week ago. That was more about eliminating the “AQ” status. As a result, it would make sense for the BCS bowls to get rid of the tie-ins in that scenario.

    It’s an interesting thought for sure.

  36. cfbfaninbadnfltown says: Nov 19, 2011 11:52 AM

    @ Ben Kercheval

    Thanx for the quick reply I appreciate it.

  37. twoody50 says: Nov 19, 2011 12:16 PM

    The BCS/SEC/ESPN will get what they want. Who promotes and touts the SEC? Who has the largest vested interest in a rematch? Who promotes no players except SEC players for Heisman? ESPN with billions invested on the SEC that’s who.
    John Q. Public doesn’t want a field goal rematch

  38. twoody50 says: Nov 19, 2011 12:22 PM

    alligtorsnapper, until they come up with a way to have everyone play everyone else in college football IMPOSSIBLE) you will never know who is the true champ. Dump the BCS, the preseason rankings and the SEC bias by the only sports network in the country, and maybe we’ll have a true championship game.

  39. bikerhal says: Nov 19, 2011 2:12 PM

    No one wanted to dump the ” anti SEC bias” many years ago.

  40. cowhawkfan says: Nov 19, 2011 2:57 PM

    “Bama had their chance at LSU and lost. In a play-off format its one and done. I say let another team have a shot.

  41. Deb says: Nov 19, 2011 4:42 PM

    @iplaybad …

    Thanks for the rational perspective on #1 playing #2 in the title game. This wouldn’t even be up for discussion if not for the homerism of conferences that don’t want to see a two-SEC-team championship and the poor sportsmanship of some (not all) LSU fans.

    This isn’t an issue of Bama having had its chance and another team getting a shot. NFL teams play each team in their division twice and often meet a third time in the playoffs. Those rival rematches are usually the highest-rated games. Given the ratings for the LSU/Bama game, I’m sure the BCS would be thrilled for a rematch. The prospect didn’t bother anyone when it lookeed like two Big 10 teams would meet a few years ago.

    I mistakenly believed two SEC teams could not meet in the title game or that only the SEC champ could go to the title game. Now that my erroneous thinking has been corrected, I’d love a rematch. There’d be no question about who the title winner would be–it would be the winner of the title game. :roll:

    The only challenge is for the two teams to maintain their current rankings. And that is a challenge. Contrary to the rudest, most arrogant proclamations of some LSU fans, any team can lose on any given day.

  42. Deb says: Nov 19, 2011 5:12 PM

    @cowhawkfan …

    I guess you missed the part about Alabama’s OT loss to LSU occurring in the regular season, not the playoffs. So your “one and done” fantasy doesn’t apply. It’s not up for fan vote. The title game is #1 vs. #2–whether that’s LSU/Bama or two other schools.

  43. cowhawkfan says: Nov 19, 2011 5:22 PM


    Spoken like a true ‘Bama fan. The school even Forrest Gump could get in!!! Why should the rest of us have to watch ‘Bama get beat by the Tigers again? Even if they should win, are they National Champs? Or is it LSU since they are 1-1 against each other? Most of us would rather see another team get a chance to do what ‘Bama couldn’t…beat LSU.

  44. cowhawkfan says: Nov 19, 2011 5:27 PM

    This would be a great year for the plus 1 game. 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3, winners for the title.

  45. gopokes3281 says: Nov 19, 2011 5:54 PM

    Alabama is a lot weaker than people think… They were only up by 10 on Georgia Southern at halftime.. Their special teams issues will come back to bite them again in the Iron Bowl and they will fall to Auburn and disappear from the title picture. Looks like Clemson is going to lose to NC State, so when they beat Virginia Tech in the ACC title game they will both fall out of any discussion for the NC game. I could see Oregon losing to USC tonight. USC played an overrated Stanford team pretty tight a couple of weeks ago and I don’t think they will let Oregon slip by tonight. LSU will beat Ole Miss tonight it is possible that they will lose to Arkansas. Alabama’s offense isn’t as potent as Arkansas and it will likely be the strongest offense they have seen all season…other than Oregon’s. If not, Georgia has been on a roll recently and will do anything to upset the Tigers. The Pokes will beat OU in Bedlam. They will be even more prepared after last night’s loss. They will come out on their A game. And Stanford will likely squeak by Notre Dame at the end of the year…just depends on what Notre Dame team comes out to play that night…and what Stanford team as well. Houston’s schedule is too easy, and Boise has already lost, so that would put OK State in the title game with either Arkansas or Stanford. It’s unlikely everything will play out exactly like that, but can I see it being a very chaotic finish to a very unpredictable 2011 season.

  46. roseann894 says: Nov 19, 2011 6:49 PM

    I knew something bad was going to happen when the score of their last game ended at 6-6-6.

  47. southernpatriots says: Nov 19, 2011 7:30 PM

    The BCS will put the two top ranked teams in the NC game. If LSU and Alabama win out (win the remainder of their schedules) how could the BCS, Harris Poll, Graduate Assistant’s Poll, and the Computer rankings justify a move from the 1 and 2 spots?

    While a plethora of teams are jostling and juggling their placements each week, the one thing that could be a constant is #1 and #2. Certainly, both teams have challenges ahead of them. It appears LSU has the greatest challenge ahead, but it has been that way all season so far. There are assumptions which must be made, but if LSU and Alabama win out, BCS must put both teams in the NC game.

    Fans may like this, or may not, but it has to be this way. LSU is #1, Alabama is #2, if they win out how can any team pass either one? BCS does not want to commit suicide. (though we wish something like that would happen…smile) We cannot stress enough that there remain challenges for both LSU and Alabama and the greatest for LSU, we believe but if they both win out, Tuscaloosa bags will be packed for New Orleans as with Baton Rouge bags.

    It may just be fun to see if Miles is Mr. Conservative and Saban tries to be Miles Jr. again, or if each has completely different game plans which lend to much larger scoring and less dominance by the great defenses of each.

    May ya’ll have a

    Most Happy Thanksgiving for you

    and all your families!

    Bon Appetit!

  48. webfootdoug58 says: Nov 19, 2011 8:07 PM

    Alabama’s mediocre performance today against an inferior team opens #2 up to some other one-loss teams.

    If Oregon continues playing with their resurgent rhythm, they could win big against USC tonight– and a Duck win by two or three TD’s could be enough for them to pass ‘Bama.

    However, given USC’s talent and determination to win the unofficial conference championship, that could be a tall order.

    We’ll see, game’s about to start– go Ducks!

  49. raiderredleg says: Nov 19, 2011 8:10 PM

    @ bikerhal…Don’t mention it would love Okie State to get back in the BCS equation, but honestly they had their chance last night to control their own destiny and let it get away.

  50. webfootdoug58 says: Nov 19, 2011 9:58 PM

    Oops, 7-21
    Must be those darn Beaverblack uniforms.
    Or Barkley is too good.

    But UO is a great second half team– they’ll need it.

  51. cowhawkfan says: Nov 19, 2011 10:04 PM

    I really thought OSU deserved a shot at LSU if they ran the table and I feel for the loss of their basketball coaches, but no matter what happens now they should not be in the National Championship game. They lost to a ridiculously bad team and here is no recovery from that. There are even two loss teams I’d put ahead of them now, especially those whose loses came to ranked teams.

  52. Deb says: Nov 19, 2011 10:36 PM

    @cowhawkfan …

    It’s spoken like a fan who understands that #1 plays #2 for the title, that it’s not up for fan vote, and that the winner of the title game wins the title. Period.

    No one seemed to misunderstand that when Ohio State and Michigan were vying for those two spots a few years ago. Then Michigan fell out of the #2 spot, Florida moved up and spanked Ohio State in the championship. But were all of you whining at the prospect of an all Big 10 title game?

    I have no idea at this point whether Alabama and LSU will be #1 and #2 at season’s end. I realize it’s rare and unpopular, but I don’t count my chickens before they hatch and consider Auburn a formidable opponent every year regardless of the Tigers’ record. Right now, my only concern is the Iron Bowl. But if LSU and Alabama are in the top two spots, they should be the undisputed participants in the title game. If you–or whomever “the rest of us” includes–don’t want to watch the rematch … don’t. I’m not sure what a cowhawk is, but if it doesn’t appreciate great defensive battles, too bad. It’s not your call to make.

  53. Deb says: Nov 19, 2011 10:44 PM

    @southernpatriots …

    Thank you for being the class of LSU!!! Yes, both Alabama and LSU have challenging final games–but I don’t know that Arkansas is more challenging than Auburn. They’re a much better team, of course, but those Auburn folks are tricky … and hate is a powerful motivator 😉

    I’ll be happy if Nick is Nick. McElwain, on the other hand … sigh. And would you believe that kicker was the top prospect in the nation when he was recruited? Maybe we could find that mule from the old Disney film? 😀

  54. cowhawkfan says: Nov 19, 2011 10:50 PM

    @ deb

    You arent denying u are a ‘Bama fan are you? You must be ‘Bama fan simply because u are making stuff up to argue your case. Where exactly in my post did I whine about an all SEC title game? Its mot there is it!? Thats because my complaint isn’t about an all SEC title game, which I have no problem with, it’s a one loss team that already lost to the top team getting another chance over other one deserving one loss teams. At least use facts when making an argument. Now, having said that, the way things are shaping up today LSU vs ‘Bama may just be the best matchup. Although Arkansas is going to have something to say about that.

  55. cowhawkfan says: Nov 19, 2011 10:56 PM

    @ deb

    You arent denying u are a ‘Bama fan are you? You must be a ‘Bama fan simply because u are making stuff up to argue your case. Where exactly in my post did I whine about an all SEC title game? It’s not there is it!? Thats because my complaint isn’t about an all SEC title game, which I have no problem with, it’s a one loss team that already lost to the top team getting another chance over other deserving one loss teams. And how exactly do you know what my stance was on the potential Big-10 conference title matchup a few years ago? Being that I’m not a Big-10 fan and I liked Florida that year, Im pretty sure you are wrong…again. At least use facts when making an argument. Now, having said that, the way things are shaping up today, LSU vs ‘Bama may just be the best matchup. Although Arkansas is going to have something to say about that. In fact, if Arkansas beats LSU, a big if, it’s a 3 team race from the SEC for the National Title.

  56. southernpatriots says: Nov 19, 2011 11:09 PM

    Deb: That is what we were speaking about that Arkansas is a much better team this year than Auburn but you are right about heated rivalries, though sadly our rivalry with Ole Miss resulted in a 52-3 victory with Miles having our QB to take 2 knees to give to Ole Miss the ball. Apparently Miles did not want to score again on Houston Nutt and the Ole Miss Rebels. We have never seen that before. A team having a third down one yard from a touchdown and then taking two knees to give the ball to the other team with 5 minutes left in the game. Oh well, Miles is different…ha.

    Did not know McElwain was a top recruit. We would never know by observation….sorry.

    cowhawkfan: We LSU alums and fans would rather think that LSU will have something to say about Arkansas rather than the way you put it…ha.

  57. cowhawkfan says: Nov 19, 2011 11:25 PM

    @ southernmost riots

    LOL..I hear ya. It should be a good game.

  58. Deb says: Nov 19, 2011 11:31 PM

    @webfootdoug58 …

    Oh, so Bama was mediocre and doesn’t deserve the ranking? We won by 23 today. How about you?

  59. Deb says: Nov 19, 2011 11:43 PM

    @cowhawkfan …

    Where in my post did I say you had a problem with an all-SEC title game? Where did I say what your position was on an all-Big 10 matchup? You’re making smart-ass comments about Forrest Gump and Bama, but you seem to be the guy with the reading-comprehension issues.

    All I’ve said to you personally is that I don’t care about your personal preferences for seeing rematches. The #1 and #2 teams meet in the title game. And southernpatriots are right, there’s no reason for anyone to jump LSU or Alabama unless one of them loses. Beating LSU wouldn’t give Arkansas much argument to jump Bama since we beat them handily. The other thing I’ve said to you personally is that the title winner is the winner of the title game. Duh. :roll:

    Yes, I’m a Bama fan. Obviously you have a problem with that. Obviously I don’t care.

  60. Deb says: Nov 19, 2011 11:50 PM

    @southernpatriots …

    McElwain is our offensive coordinator; I just assumed you knew that. He didn’t call a good game against LSU when we got into scoring range. But I’m more than fine with Nick. Not sure what all the 9 and 12 stuff is about. Nick’s been our head coach for five seasons. Bama’s record with LSU since he became our coach is 3-2. The teams are pretty evenly matched this season. I wasn’t happy with Nick’s decisionmaking at the end of our game, but overall, the only coach I’d rather have on the college side is Bear. I don’t think anyone gets into Nick’s head, though I suspect he’s gotten into the heads of quite a few others.

    Mississippi is pitiful this year, which is why Houston Nutt is out of a job. 52-3 was statement enough.

  61. Deb says: Nov 19, 2011 11:59 PM

    @southernpatriots …

    I meant 3-2 LSU.

  62. cowhawkfan says: Nov 20, 2011 12:02 AM


    Did u seriously boast about beating a FCS team by 23 points? Really?

    I happen to like ‘Bama. I don’t like LSU. But before today’s events ‘Bama didn’t deserve another shot at LSU. At this point, it’s pretty much a 3 team race between Arkansas, LSU, and ‘Bama. I guess Oklahoma may also have a shot. Personally, everything else being equal i believe most people would prefer to see two teams who havent played each other earlier in the year play for the title. But, this may just turn out to be one of those years an exception is acceptable.

    And come ‘on, the Forrest Gump reference was at least a little funny?!

  63. cowhawkfan says: Nov 20, 2011 12:07 AM

    Wow…just say Oklahoma is gone too!!

  64. Deb says: Nov 20, 2011 12:07 AM

    @southernpatriots …

    Ohhhh … you were thinking McElwain was the kicker. Sorry, I’m doing two things at once here. No, you wouldn’t think he was a top recruit, would you? Kickers are a strange breed. McElwain is just like Arians, our OC for the Steelers. Sometimes he calls a brilliant game and sometimes he’s just awful. Wish these offensive guys could be as consistent as our DCs.

  65. Deb says: Nov 20, 2011 12:16 AM

    @cowhawkfan …

    Yes, Forrest Gump is kinda funny … especially since I’m a Mizzou grad 😀 But we were raised on Tide football. I’m usually cracking jokes on here but lately I have the gloves up.

    Am I bragging about beating an FCS team by 23 points? Not really. We were hollering at Bama all through that game LOL I’m just taking a shot at an Oregon fan that called my team mediocre 😀

    I love great defensive battles. Hate all these high-flying offenses and 100-point games. I’m always joking that my ideal score is like 10-7. (I would actually like to see a TD :) ) So that game worked for me … right up until the INT. And as a Steelers fan, the games I look forward to most are our annual battles with the Ravens. They’ve just swept us for the first time in nearly a decade, so I’m dying for a chance at that third try in the playoffs. Rematches rock!

  66. cowhawkfan says: Nov 20, 2011 12:30 AM


    OMG!! U r a Steeler fan? Wow…now I really have to dislike u!! LOL…I hate the Steelers!!!

    Actually, my Dad is from Pittsburgh and he’s a huge Steeler fan. Thus, I grew up a huge Steeler fan. I can still virtuallu name every starter from their ’70s and early 80’s teams. I also have an original Terrie Towel. But, we moved to Seattle and when they got a team I became a ‘Hawk fan. Then, after college I moved to Dallas and became a Cowboy fan. Hence, COWHAWKFAN. I will still root for the Steelers on occasion, but they’ve gotten a little too arrogant for me lately. And yes, I realize the irony with Loudmouth Ryan as the Cowboys DC. I wish that guy would just keep quiet. Haha

    And yes, I too love a good defensive battle. Not a sloppy offense low scoring game, but a beat the heck out of each other hard hitting slugfest. I think I get that from the Steel Curtain days. In fact, I loved the Denver vs. Jets game the other night (although the offenses were a little sloppy).

  67. southernpatriots says: Nov 20, 2011 12:34 AM

    Deb: I could blaim the multi tasking I am trying to do, but honestly I was thinking how Bama’s kickers let them down so much that I just assumed, sorry. The SEC recruits defensive players especially and sometimes as an afterthought offensive anything…ha.

    We feel really bad for Ole Miss. We have felt that way now for years, but it is overwhelming this year. Maybe Miles felt bad for Nutt and the team, did not want to put up 60 points on them, and just had our QB just do the classy thing, take a knee on 3rd and 4th down. If the QB had handed off the ball to anyone, the Ole Miss defense was so weary, maybe even to me, another touchdown would have been scored. We believe it was the right thing to do but we have never seen that before. That is class.

    How many highly ranked teams are going to lose? Oregon, well that is now mute. Oklahoma to Baylor? yes, that is now mute. Clemson…more. So, the new BCS rankings may be LSU, Alabama, Arkansas all three SEC and all three West SEC. We don’t think that has ever happened before.

  68. raiderredleg says: Nov 20, 2011 12:58 AM

    After this weekend we need a playoff system.

    Top 16 teams according to the AP and let the chips fall where they may!

  69. gopokes3281 says: Nov 20, 2011 3:11 AM

    ESPN’s Projected BCS Top 5
    1. LSU
    2. Alabama
    3. Arkansas
    4. Oklahoma State
    5. Stanford

    With LSU vs. Arkansas, the Iron Bowl, the SEC Championship, and Bedlam (likely for the BIG XII Championship) still left to play, I honestly believe at the end of the season there will be an undisputed #1 and #2. Hopefully things shake out that way. But either way, an 8 team playoff system would be nice. Play games at the Rose, Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, Dallas, Atlanta, and New York and just rotate cities. By giving teams a month off before the NC game just kills any momentum they had at the end of the season and also loses fan interest. It would keep more team’s fans involved in the game, be a big money maker, and produce some of the best college football games we have ever seen. Still keep the other bowls for everyone else to play, but let the elite teams play it out for the Championship.

  70. bikerhal says: Nov 20, 2011 8:18 AM


    I agree with you and it blows my mind how a playoff is still out of reach considering how much money is on the table here. Once I read an article in Sports Illustrated laying the blame on the Bowl game promoters. Hard to figure this out.

  71. southernpatriots says: Nov 20, 2011 10:33 AM


    Sports Illustrated took the easy way out in their research. We are not surprised. It is easy to blame the bowl sponsors or similar. Emmert, the head of the NCAA and formerly of LSU, has announced on numerous occasions, again last week, that he and his staff are ready to propose playoffs for Div. 1 as soon as the university presidents request it.

    The NCAA oversees the playoffs for every other division of team sports. One university president, bless his/her heart, can start the ball rolling, but for reasons they can only explain no one president wants to be the first to start this ball rolling. The NCAA has plans ready to propose which include the use of bowl venues, college stadiums, etc.

    So many top 10 BCS ranked teams are falling to unranked teams. Why? Could it be that those top 10 ranked teams were not deserving to be in the top 10 in the first place. Oklahoma State had a defense ranked 101st in the country. That did them in when they faced an opponent with a defense and an offense which could score…Baylor. Reminds me when our family worked the children’s fair for the children with serious illnesses held a few years ago. I worked the cotton candy machine. A little bit of substance and a whole lot of hot air. I think so many of these teams are cotton candy.

    Arkansas is a test. If Arkansas had not been overlooked in the past few years when LSU had its bowl game already set up and AR had to win to gain their bowl invitation, we would not be even considering this game would be close. Arkansas has not performed well on its road games this year. Arkansas was blown out by Alabama. They put pressure on the Razorback QB and that governed the game. Mingo and team will be in the backfield about as much as AR QB Tyler Wilson. He will be rushed, pushed, and fall often. I don’t think Miles will pussyfoot around in this game. He will want to start strong, get points on the board, dominate the game with ball control, tire out the Razorback defense, and by the third/fourth quarter it may be a runaway.

    Miles and his grin let us know he is focused and will have his team ready. Don’t doubt this. We heard him speak many times over this season but it all relates back to what he said during spring practices. “This was a team of destiny… The ultimate goal was New Orleans for all the prize…”

  72. bikerhal says: Nov 20, 2011 12:07 PM


    Man, thanks. I have goose bumps now! Geaux Les Tigres!

  73. southernpatriots says: Nov 20, 2011 1:09 PM


    Je vous en prie! (You are welcome!)

    We have those goose bumps for now. That will give over to anxiety as the Arkansas game comes on Friday after Thanksgiving, maybe a little higher anxiety at SEC championship game v. Georgia and then Lord help us during the BCS NC in New Orleans. Not getting ahead or assuming anything, just believing and by faith pressing forward to the vision. Every game must be focused upon without looking ahead. We KNOW Miles and team are doing this with these young men. We believe as he said in the spring, this is a team of destiny.

    Commentators or some kind of ‘tators (ha) were talking about how extraordinary the Tigers were this year to be so good and yet so young. While many of the Alabama players are seniors, very few of the LSU players are. Most are, in fact, sophomores.

    After this season, these young players for LSU will have two more seasons of elligibility remaining. Without going into too much detail, that is something to consider!

    Tyrann Mathieu gave an interview to his home town radio station (New Orleans) and in it he admitted he was disciplined by Coach Miles and learned alot of how he let down his team and that will not happen again. He spoke about his “trash talking” which is not nearly as bad or as often as the Western Kentucky players before the game and during the first half. LSU was bruising them in the second half so they did not say much at that time…ha.

    Tyrann said he would tone it down some, and for Ole Miss he did tone it down to almost nothing. Though Ole Miss was a historical rival, Tyrann helped up some of the Ole Miss players and did other things to help them and only said something after a couple of plays in the first minutes of the first quarter and was quiet after that, just exhorting his own team mates.

  74. webfootdoug58 says: Nov 20, 2011 3:59 PM

    Looking back on a long Saturday:

    @Deb, why did I already know that you would be the one to write a snide note about Oregon’s painful loss to USC?
    “@webfootdoug58 …
    Oh, so Bama was mediocre and doesn’t deserve the ranking? We won by 23 today. How about you?”

    As @cowhawkfan said it well “@Deb
    Did u seriously boast about beating a FCS team by 23 points? Really?”

    Or as the AP succinctly put it:
    “The Crimson Tide didn’t win many style points; Georgia Southern’s Triple Option attack burned the nation’s top defense for 302 yards.”

    This doesn’t mean Alabama isn’t a great team, or that it doesn’t deserve it’s #2 ranking. I wrote that given this mediocre performance, IF Oregon beat USC convincingly, by two or three TDs, they might be able to pass Alabama.
    I still believe that was true; however, Oregon didn’t beat USC; in a great game, USC clearly outplayed the Ducks for the first three quarters. Had Oregon’s comeback succeeded rather than being a FG short it would have been viewed as a “miracle” finish, but not one that would have led to passing the Tide at #2.

    I was disappointed but not surprised the Trojans won, knowing they are now one of the best teams in the country and this game meant a lot to them. As I noted here back on 11-19-1:57:
    “This only makes Saturday’s USC-Oregon game even bigger than it already was, which is that it’s really the PAC 12 N-S Conference Championship game, as USC, the worthy South champion, isn’t eligible for post season play–a win for the Trojans could make their season. And they’ve got the horses to do it.”

    So lets’ crown USC as the unofficial first champion of the PAC 12 N-S conference playoff; and crown the SEC for having the top three teams in the country “unless something bizarre happens”.

    Let us pray they all wear their crowns with a touch of modesty.

    This only makes Saturday’s USC-Oregon game even bigger than it already was, which is that it’s really the PAC 12 N-S Conference Championship game, as USC, the worthy South champion, isn’t eligible for post season play–a win for the Trojans could make their season. And they’ve got the horses to do it.

  75. Deb says: Nov 20, 2011 3:59 PM

    @southernpatriots …

    All missteps right now are excused. If I’m on my computer, I’m multi-tasking and distracted. If I’m on one of the family’s gadgets, like now, I’m luck to find all the keys LOL

    Didn’t realize until today that Les was taking a knee w/three minutes left in the game. Yes, that was good of him. Can’t say if that’s ever happened before. So sad for Ole Miss that it was necessary. Jack del Rio did a similar kindness to the Steelers in 2006. I believe pros should be able to stop an opposing offense and ought not complain if they can’t. But our QB was still recovering from a motorcycle crash and emergency appendectomy, and should not have been on the field. We were defending Super Bowl champs and clearly wounded. Jack was in the Red Zone as time was running out, but had the Jags take a knee rather than run up the score on us. I’ve never forgotten it.

    @cowhawkfan …

    You left the Steelers for the Cowboys and Seahawks?? Why so fickle?? LOL

  76. webfootdoug58 says: Nov 20, 2011 4:05 PM

    a misstep of my own, accidentally copied my paragraph (this only makes Saturday’s USC-Oregon game……..) a second time, at the end.

  77. southernpatriots says: Nov 20, 2011 4:44 PM

    Deb: Late service at church today, alot of missions’ reports….

    I mistyped or more likely mis-thought. Not until a few minutes ago did I see the LSU-Ole Miss game replayed on video did I notice for the first time (I think?) that LSU had the ball on the Ole Miss about 1 yard line with 4 downs for a touch down! 4 downs to go 1 yard for a score. The Ole Miss defense was weary beyond words. Anyone could have walked over, especially any LSU runnning back.

    Miles had the LSU QB take a yard to two step back and put a knee down not just 3rd and 4th down, but 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th downs! All four downs a knee! To turn the ball over to Ole Miss. Houston Nutt looked so surprised, that he was not even prepared to send his offense into the game. Tears came down our faces. We have seen something like that but not all 4 downs, 1 yard or less from the opponent’s goal with that many minutes left on the clock.

    The game announcer/commentator did not like it. He complained that they could have run the ball and if they scored they scored. Who in their right mind would think that at the end of that game with Ole Miss’ defense unable to function properly, they would stop a LSU running back from leaning over the line and over the goal line for a score?

    Houston Nutt was surprised and did not quite know what to make of it and he looked across at Miles and Miles had a small grin on his face and Nutt smiled broadly and quickly instructed this offense team to get into the game.

  78. bikerhal says: Nov 20, 2011 4:45 PM


    They kneeled with 5 minutes left.

    Heard that the QB audibled that bootleg, forcing Miles to do the kneel. Funny thing is some of the talking heads (well Mark May at least) considered it an insult. Go figure.

  79. bikerhal says: Nov 20, 2011 4:49 PM

    @southern patriots

    Has any other conference won 5 championships in a row?

  80. cowhawkfan says: Nov 20, 2011 4:53 PM


    I moved to Seattle in6th grade, when Seattle got a team I became a fan. Steve Largent went to my church and Jim Zorn was my best friends next door neighbor. I even played basketball on the street with Largent and played on a softball team with him. Other than that, I lived in Seattle for 20 years. Hard not to be a fan. Then, I moved to Dallas where I lived for 23 years. It’s easy to become a fan when u live in a city that long. I was a Steeler fan simply because my Dad was. As I grew up, I formed my own identity. Besides, they are not the same organization I grew up with. I’ll be a CowHawk fan for life. :)

  81. bikerhal says: Nov 20, 2011 4:54 PM

    . . . . Now if we can get the conference to stop over signing so many players

  82. John Taylor says: Nov 20, 2011 5:10 PM

    Funny thing is some of the talking heads (well Mark May at least) considered it an insult. Go figure.

    So it’s the talking heads making an issue of the kneel downs?

    “A lot of guys felt like it was embarrassing. … It made a lot of us mad, just furious, that you could kneel it with five minutes left.”

    That’s a quote from Ole Miss’ starting quarterback.

  83. southernpatriots says: Nov 20, 2011 5:10 PM


    We suggested this several years ago to the coaching staff at LSU. They said oversigning within reason is not disapproved by the SEC or NCAA. The reason: There is an expectation that some/many of the athletes who are signed will switch to other schools, or will not be able to do the classwork or may not adhere to the football department regs, etc.

    There has been a move in the SEC, supported by Alabama and other SEC teams/presidents to reduce the number of oversignings to curb the abuses. Another proposal was to completely phase out the oversignings altogether. You may be able to find out where this matter is at this time in the SEC? (it could be that the matter is now the rule in the SEC, we don’t know)

  84. southernpatriots says: Nov 20, 2011 5:29 PM


    It made the Ole Miss QB and guys furious? If he was more like Archie Manning, maybe he could have made some yardage and points during the final 5 minutes, oh, sorry, he couldn’t do much the whole game, but is angry, furious that Miles did not pile up the score any more on he and his team. His coach will probably straighten him out.

    But if the players use this to motivate them to improve their team, that would be wonderful. We want Ole Miss to become relevant again.

  85. webfootdoug58 says: Nov 20, 2011 7:44 PM

    Good for you for recognizing Oklahoma State’s tragic loss of their two womens’ basketball coaches, and apologizing for your accidental omission earlier in the middle of all the chaos.

    You’ll notice that when I included this reference on 11-19-1:57 the thumbs were 38-2 positive– I think we all felt the same way on this sad news:

    “Let’s stop a moment to congratulate Iowa State for the upset of the year, playing almost perfect second half and OTs, and to honor both teams for a really great game…..and recognize OSU for their family tragedy.”

  86. bikerhal says: Nov 20, 2011 10:10 PM


    Interesting. I had the same opinion when it happened, then felt ashamed for wanting to run up the score. I guess it’s damned if you do or damned if you don’t.

  87. southernpatriots says: Nov 21, 2011 3:06 AM

    bikerhal: You are right. If the Ole Miss QB had any talent like Archie he would have used the time to move his team down the field and score something, but since he could not do that all night, they will have to find something to criticize LSU about.

    We are glad Miles did not continue to score on them. We are not that kind of team and he is not that kind of coach. He knew with one hand off, another score would be made. The Ole Miss defense was not good in the first quarter when they were fresh. At that point in the game the defense was barely able to stand up.

    For our sake, we are glad Coach Miles did what he did. For their sake, if it motivates them to greatly improve in every aspect of their game and to become relevant again, that is wonderful!

  88. Deb says: Nov 21, 2011 11:57 AM

    @webfootdoug58 …

    How did you know I’d be the one to say something snide? Because of the shots you’ve been taking at me lately. I’ve been wishing your Ducks luck and posting that I was happy for you when they won. You changed the tone of the conversation. It may be me against the world, but I’m up for the challenge.

    And maybe you should do a little research on Georgia Southern.

  89. Deb says: Nov 21, 2011 12:16 PM

    @cowhawkfan …

    Well, I’m all about finding your own identity, so I’ll buy that. I march to a different drum on most things than the people around me :) My dad’s from Alabama and we grew up on the Tide. I’m the one who gravitated toward the NFL, fell in love with the Steelers, and dragged everyone else along. Other than watching Bama games, I got away from college ball and have only really gotten back into it in the last decade. But my love for the NFL just grows stronger every year. I’ve never wavered from the Steelers since day one no matter where I’ve lived. I can see how access to Zorn and Largent would have an impact on a young boy. But the Cowboys? No, I don’t understand the two-team thing. You gotta make the hard calls and choose. LOL

    @southernpatriots …

    I read that quote by Mississippi’s QB as well. Guess he read the gesture as the football equivalent of bringing in all your outfielders when the nerdy kid gets up to bat. But given the score, he should have just kept quiet. All he did was draw attention to the fact that they had nothing on either side of the ball. And you’re right–if LSU had scored at that point, they’d have been damned for that, too.

  90. Deb says: Nov 21, 2011 12:20 PM

    @southernpatriots …

    We have two services on Sundays–morning and evening. So I have to make creative use of the DVR to get in all the NFL games. What a wonderful invention!!! When we were kids, we used to wonder if we could get away with smuggling in a transistor radio and running an ear bud through our clothes. But since our parents were the spanking type, we never chanced it 😀

  91. texbornlsufan says: Nov 21, 2011 4:37 PM

    Bama fan’s get over it YOU LOST TO LSU !!!!!

    Now bring it as we will be in New Orleans waiting for you if you get there!!!!!

  92. Deb says: Nov 21, 2011 5:21 PM

    @texbornlsufan …

    I’ve had no problem accepting our loss and congratulating LSU fans on winning that game, Reid on making the play of the game, and Miles on avoiding the mistakes our coaching staff made. I feel the teams were as close to evenly matched as could be, but LSU outplayed/outcoached us in key situations that made the difference. It doesn’t bother me to admit what happened before my eyes and to be a good sport about it.

    At least on this blog, the problem hasn’t been Alabama fans failing to accept their loss, with the exception of a few good-sported regulars, it’s been vulgar, screeching LSU fans like you acting like rude, arrogant jackasses and inventing any possible excuse to keep Alabama out of the title game. Whether you like it or not, #1 plays #2. If Alabama beats Auburn, there’s no reason we should lose our ranking, and will have a place in the title game by right. If you’re so all-fired sure of the outcome in New Orleans, why are you so determined to keep us out of our rightful place in that game? Sounds like you’re the one with the problem.

  93. Deb says: Nov 21, 2011 7:29 PM

    Oops, I meant sounds like you guys–plural–are the ones with the problem 😀

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