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SEC dominates Top 10 of coaches’ poll; LSU nets No. 1

Alabama Crimson Tide head coach Saban speaks to LSU Tigers head coach Miles after Alabama defeated LSU during their NCAA BCS National Championship college football game in New Orleans AP

Winners of the past six BcS titles, the coaches — or their assistants — are expecting nothing less than a seventh straight crystal hoisting from the conference.

In the preseason USA Today Top 25 coaches’ poll, a total of seven — out of 14 — SEC teams were represented, including a whopping five of the Top 10.  Heading that list is 2011 BcS title game runner-up LSU, which received 18 of the 59 first-place votes.

Oddly enough, there were two other teams that tallied first-place votes and actually garnered more than the Tigers.  Alabama, which defeated LSU for the 2011 title, got 20 first-place votes, while USC, in its first season coming off a two-year bowl ban, received 19.  The Tide and Trojans are ranked No. 2 and No. 3, respectively.

Georgia (No. 6), South Carolina (No. 9) and Arkansas (No. 10) are the other three SEC schools in the Top 10, while No. 23 Florida and No. 25 Auburn were the sixth and seventh SEC schools represented on the list.

Rounding out the Top 10 are Oklahoma (No. 4), Oregon (No. 5), Florida State (No. 7) and Michigan No. 8).    The Sooners and Seminoles each received one first-place vote apiece from the coaches.

Three teams that finished inside the Top 10 in the final coaches’ poll last season will start this year well outside that grouping:  No. 18 Stanford (No. 7 last poll), No. 19 Oklahoma State (No. 3) and No. 22 Boise State (No. 8).  A total of four teams that weren’t ranked at season’s end were included in the initial Top 25, with the highest being No. 15 Texas.  others in that group included Florida, No. 24 Notre Dame and Auburn.  USC was ineligible for the coaches’ poll due to NCAA sanctions, so they weren’t in the final poll as well.

Conference-wise, the Big 12 was right behind the SEC with six schools — including new members West Virginia (No. 11) and TCU (No. 17) — followed by the Big Ten with four and the ACC and Pac-12 with three each.

Below is the complete list of rankings, and you can let your voice be heard in our poll right HERE.


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79 Responses to “SEC dominates Top 10 of coaches’ poll; LSU nets No. 1”
  1. fitz66 says: Aug 2, 2012 12:24 PM

    So the Big 12 had 60% of its schools ranked while the SEC has 50? Tell me more about how the SEC is dominating the rankings.

  2. coolhorn says: Aug 2, 2012 12:27 PM

    I’ll be a lot more interested in the rankings at the end of the regular season.

  3. John Taylor says: Aug 2, 2012 12:36 PM

    “So the Big 12 had 60% of its schools ranked while the SEC has 50? Tell me more about how the SEC is dominating the rankings.”

    What part of “dominates Top 10 of coaches’ poll” did you not understand?

  4. papabush88 says: Aug 2, 2012 12:40 PM


    I believe the title of the article is “SEC dominates top 10 of poll,” which they did. There are more SEC teams in the top 10 than any other conference. Oklahoma is ranked way too high. Georgia is ranked too high as well.

    You can honestly make the case that any of the teams in the top 5 is No. 1.

  5. thraiderskin says: Aug 2, 2012 12:44 PM

    So what is the reason that the defending national champions are behind the guys they shut out? What changes puts LSU over the top of Bama? Obviously, it doesn’t actually matter, hell, Michigan is in the top 10.

  6. fitz66 says: Aug 2, 2012 12:44 PM

    I did see that – merely looking at it a different way.

    And of course Notre Dame and Florida are ranked. Forget their recent on-the-field performance, they’re NOTRE DAME and FLORIDA!

  7. brettlgriffin says: Aug 2, 2012 12:50 PM


    Percentages in this case have no merit. Go based on numbers alone. 7 from the SEC(5 in the top 10) and 6 from the Big 12(1 in the top 10)

    That’s how they are dominating the rankings.

  8. BrownsTown says: Aug 2, 2012 12:52 PM

    Save this article as a template for the first 3-4 weeks of the season.

    “SEC Dominates FCS Opponents in Week 1 Action”

    “SEC Dominates FCS Opponents in Week 2 Action”

    “SEC Dominates FCS Opponents in Week 3 Action”

  9. houndofthebaskervols says: Aug 2, 2012 12:52 PM

    @ fitz

    Uh I see 7 SEC teams, 6 from the Big 12, and 2 of those schools were in different conferences last year. Get over it!

  10. BrownsTown says: Aug 2, 2012 12:55 PM

    Just for kicks, here is the same poll from last August. Interesting how the starting point impacts the ending point w/ Bama @ #2 and Ok St @ #8.

  11. southernpatriots says: Aug 2, 2012 12:59 PM

    I like these popularity polls like I like another hole in my head. These polls have no significance, just the favorite opinions of folks whose opinion really has no bearing on reality too often. I don’t like the popularity polls pre-season, beginning of season, mid-season or anytime.

    As I expressed through family members who posted here at the time, we never wanted our alma mater and fave LSU to be #1 before or during any season. It adds a sharper bulls eye than would otherwise be there. Les Miles thinks since a bulls eye would be there anyway, it doesn’t make a difference.

    I guess the polls will continue to be there, puffing up some teams like cotton candy–much more air than substance–and under rating other teams who are playing difficult schedules with lesser athletes and not receiving just recognition.

    If the polls are the least bit accurate the schedules for SEC teams, are more difficult this season than before. Maybe they will need a few
    FCS teams thrown in there to keep from being battered and bruised so much, they would not have much for the post-season. There is a temperance or preparation factor, but one after another top ranked team will take its toll on any team.

    Congratulations to all teams that made it on this poll, and for those who did not and should, I hope they will make it on future ones. Commence the season already!

  12. tubaplayingprof says: Aug 2, 2012 1:03 PM

    I pay no attention to the polls throughout the season. They seem to be only valuable to the tv networks to hype games

  13. normtide says: Aug 2, 2012 1:13 PM


    I have read plenty of headlines that said, sec dominates opponents in title game. Have you ever read that about cleveland? In any fashion?

  14. mungman69 says: Aug 2, 2012 1:21 PM

    Where is Penn St ranked?

  15. florida727 says: Aug 2, 2012 2:21 PM

    I’m an unabashed SEC and Florida fan (go ahead with the thumbs-downs :) ), but even I’m a little surprised that USC is not ranked #1. They’re freaking loaded. Upset of the season, IMO, would be if they DIDN’T make it to the national title game.

    “southernpatriots”, good to see you on the board, my friends. Best part of college football season is reconnecting on CFT with you folks. Hope all is well. God bless.

  16. bayoubauer says: Aug 2, 2012 2:25 PM

    thraiderskin says:
    Aug 2, 2012 12:44 PM
    So what is the reason that the defending national champions are behind the guys they shut out? What changes puts LSU over the top of Bama? Obviously, it doesn’t actually matter, hell, Michigan is in the top 10.

    Bama lost quite a few guys on that ridiculious(sp?) D to the draft, and LSU has (hopefully) a QB that should be able to consistently throw the ball down the field.

  17. hoggette says: Aug 2, 2012 2:26 PM

    I hate the no respect line but come on. OU top 4 again? Arkansas ended the season at #5. South Carolina? Once again, we beat the stuffing out of them last three years (especially last year). Wilson better QB then what’s his name and Knile Davis better than the Lattimore. Dislike the media darlings, OU, Michigan and USC. Only thing is that the other 2 media darlings Texas is higher and Ohio State non qualifier.
    Guess we will climb that hill again this year!

  18. hoggette says: Aug 2, 2012 2:32 PM

    Making our quality offense will be a RB to relieve some of that pressure on Wilson and the throwing game. Defensive cordinator Paul Haynes (from OSU) improved our defense within one game against Kansas St. We will have a better defense than we get credit for. Go Hogs!

  19. dcdebacle says: Aug 2, 2012 2:40 PM

    yes, teams in the sec schedule some cupcakes. so does every other team in every other conference. and i seem to remember hearing about mama playing the #8 team in the country to start the year, in a non-conference game, so i guess they are letting fcs teams in the top 10 now. all you sec haters sound the same, but for the last 6 years, you have been proven to be wrong. the sec is hands down the best league in football. do you people even watch games that don’t include your favorite teams? there is a reason that the sec keeps winning, its a nasty little secret, but I’ll share it with you: the sec is better. sure our athletes get paid a little better than the other conferences, but every league cheats. usc just got off probation, didn’t they? until the sec loses, and not to another sec team, the ball stays where it belongs. your jealousy won’t change that.

  20. papabush88 says: Aug 2, 2012 2:58 PM


    USC fan here. USC should be #2, not #1. Could they be the best team in the nation? Yes, of course they can. But they did just lose their starting DE for 3-4 months due to torn pectoral muscle. Everyone is excited about the Silas Redd pickup, as am I , but D-line IMO is #2 most important behind QB. Definitely have the talent at D-line but not the experience. The rest of USC’s defense has depth and is very good.

    As I said before, any team ranked in the top 5 can make a case to be No. 1 (in the pre season). I will say that Oklahoma is ranked WAY too high. Arkansas should be a little higher than 10. Georgia may also be too high.

  21. papabush88 says: Aug 2, 2012 3:04 PM


    Huge USC fan. I agree with you that Arkansas should be ranked higher. Probably the only real offense in all of the SEC. Oklahoma is definitely a “media darling” as you pointed out. Always ranked high and choke. Everyone all of a sudden is all about USC. But I wouldn’t say we are a media darling. Last year, USC was an underdog vs Cal, ND, Stanford, Oregon, and Arizona State. They got two out of the five games right. The media is trying to get on good terms with USC because they completely overlooked the Trojans last year. It disgusts me. But don’t make the mistake that the Trojans are so loved like Oklahoma and ND usually are and then end up choking like those teams do. Good luck to your Hogs. Excited to watch the Ark offense perform with all of its weapons

  22. thraiderskin says: Aug 2, 2012 3:17 PM

    Thanks Bayoubauer for getting back with an answer… I was wondering, because LSU “might” have a quarterback, but schools like Bama seem to always reload on D anyway. Just seems to me it would be a wash and for the time being, the last one to get the best out of the other would be on top.

  23. rsmeans says: Aug 2, 2012 3:39 PM

    Fans of the Big12 always put out totally incorrect information (e.g. fitz66) Here is the breakdown if one can read.
    SEC 2 OF TOP 5 5 OF TOP 10 7 OF TOP 25 4 OF RV
    BIG 12 1 OF TOP 5 1 OF TOP 10 6 OF TOP 25 2 OF RV
    PAC 12 2 OF TOP 5 2 OF TOP 10 3 OF TOP 25 2 OF RV
    BIG 10 0 OF TOP 5 1 OF TOP 10 4 OF TOP 25 0 OF RV
    ACC 0 OF TOP 5 1 OF TOP 10 3 OF TOP 25 3 OF RV
    OTHER 0 OF TOP 5 0 OF TOP 10 2 OF TOP 25

  24. dallasstars9 says: Aug 2, 2012 4:04 PM

    Wolverines will be in good shape after they take care of Bama. Go Blue!

  25. southernpatriots says: Aug 2, 2012 4:30 PM

    florida727: It is ALWAYS great to be with you on a thread. I hope you and your family are well. My family is aging (myself quite rapidly..ha!) so health concerns are constant, but I will be departing for Cedar-Sinai once again it appears soon. A young girl we found in Appalachia needs a double lung transplant due to the ravages of cystic fibrosis. What an insidious disease!

    papabush88: I thought USC would be #1 also. I am not sure what the coaches were thinking. I think they want to eliminate LSU by mid-season or so. Some call it a “curse” on the #1 pre-season team but I think it is just extra focus and motivation by opponents.

    This pre-season popularity poll is just that. By the middle of the season, when the BCS rankings actually come out, we will have a much better idea of where teams stand. We will know where we stand after Bama, which is the game where we will KNOW if LSU has the team or its just hype.

    Les Miles of LSU has stated that he thought that he needed another QB (i.e Bolden late of PSU) since in each of LSU’s title runs in recent decades our starting QB went down and the back up was needed before the end of the season. By God’s grace, I hope that does not happen to Zach Mettenberger, but at least now I can understand Miles’ reasoning. Bolden wanted to join LSU last season but could not get out of his committment to PSU then without penalty. His similarity to Jordan Jefferson alarms me quite a bit and I want to forget JJ, not remember him.

  26. papabryant1 says: Aug 2, 2012 4:33 PM

    Born a Bama fan (with my last name whadda ya e’spect), graduated from Clemson (BA) and USF (MA).

    Having noted my biases, Bama wasn’t going to get #1, not after all the noise about how the NC game was unfair to OkSt. Bama will beat Michigan, and fairly easily, although Michigan will have some good moments. The LSU game will determine the national champion again this year.

    Clemson is ranked too low. Yes, I know what happened with WVU – my wife is from WV and my inlaws are still emailing me about when I am going to make my couch available for burning. But with the addition of a new DC who doesn’t TRAIN the LB’s to overpursue on purpose the D will be incredible. Mark it now; Clemson will be among those talked about earning a shot at the title game in the last weeks of the season. Won’t get in the game, but they will be part of the buzz.

    Southern Cal is overrated as usual. They can recruit, but they play no one of national caliber; Oregon is mid-level SEC, upper third ACC at best. Oklahoma also overrated; no better than 15th. Notre Dame, Florida and Auburn don’t belong.

    TCU and K-State will be interesting to see. FSU and Georgia are too high, but deserve top 15; Arkansas should be higher. BYU should be on here already, and Washington, USF and GTech will be on the list in the season. Boise will be top 5 by end of season.

  27. cappa662 says: Aug 2, 2012 4:39 PM

    WHy is Notre Dame even ranked?

  28. bayoubauer says: Aug 2, 2012 5:16 PM

    @ southernpatriots

    JJ was one brain short of being a consistently good QB. Guy had all the physical talent, but nothing between the ears. If Bolden has the same physical tools, and even just a little bit of smarts, i think our Tigers will be ok @ QB depth.

  29. latchbeam says: Aug 2, 2012 5:51 PM

    6,7,8 and especially 14 are an absolute joke!! And Choklahoma at 4 is a stretch unless they have a new defense.

  30. latchbeam says: Aug 2, 2012 5:51 PM

    Still laughing at Clemson at #14…

  31. omniusprime says: Aug 2, 2012 6:00 PM

    Too much SEC trash in the top 20, especially the top 10. Sorry but the SEC is always vastly overrated. USC should be rated #1 since they have the best football player in the NCAA, Matt Barkley. Barkley is going to smoke the competition this year. I hope we get some SEC trash team in the national championship so USC can expose the SEC trash for being overrated.

    USC #1 !!!!

  32. papabush88 says: Aug 2, 2012 6:13 PM


    Huge USC fan too. But there are some SEC teams that are FAR FROM trash. I have a LOT of respect for programs like Alabama and LSU (even though I’m not a big Les fan). Arkansas has an offense that is no joke.
    What I don’t respect is that the SEC teams usually have about 8 home games and schedule FCS schools. USC, ND, and UCLA have NEVER scheduled a game against an FCS school.
    Still, you’ve got to respect some of these SEC teams. Both LSU and Alabama had great D-lines, but only one team had a QB. Forget about the Tim Tebows and the Cam Newtons…Those great SEC teams had great D-lines. I don’t really buy the old adage “Defense wins games.” I think it’s all about the battle in the trenches. Great O-lines and D-lines. Think about the great USC teams in 2003 and 2004. They had great O-lines and D-lines.

  33. imaduffer says: Aug 2, 2012 6:28 PM

    Show me a poll of the bottom 25 and how many of the teams in the top 25 that play them.

  34. normtide says: Aug 2, 2012 6:59 PM

    Pappa, I totally agree, the lines are where games are won. USC’s best recent years, you had an awesome d-line.

    As for overrated sec trash, funny. Your mad cause we win title games, on the field, against who ever we play. Hate all you want, but an argument against facts only makes you look foolish. Any statement you make is trumped by the SEC’s BCS record. But, note that your jealousy brings a warm smile to southerners.

  35. truetarheelfan says: Aug 2, 2012 7:02 PM

    Let’s just hope that fl state finally lives up to the hype for a while now college football has been clambering for a return to dominance in tallehassee even while the talent level wasn’t what it once was but now they are loaded especially on defense would love to see the Seminole chop back in the national title seen though a tar heel fan in all things even underwater basket weaving I can admit there is something more special when fl state is a Titan… Aken to when Alabama was a none factor college football isn’t the same with out the Seminoles near or on top…. So hears to hoping they finally out it together this yr and I think they will

  36. truetarheelfan says: Aug 2, 2012 7:03 PM

    Go heels oh wait it isn’t basketball season yet lol

  37. papabush88 says: Aug 2, 2012 7:19 PM


    That’s why I was defending the SEC. Numbers don’t lie. The SEC has done very well in the BCS era, albeit a vey flawed post season era. The right team can beat these great SEC teams. USC is one of those right teams. I hav great respect for the SEC (at least several of it’s teams). My only problems with the SEC are the 8 home games a year, the scheduling against FCS schools, and when SEC fans can’t pick a particular team but rather act as if they went to the University of the SEC (which doesn’t sound like you considering your name). Otherwise, as of right now, it’s USC, LSU, and Alabama (in no particular order) and then everyone else.

  38. tigersgeaux says: Aug 2, 2012 7:22 PM


    When you are right, you are right! I watched JJ when he played in high school and his coach had maybe 4 different plays for him to call and three were option plays and one was a screen. I think that Miles’ (actually the OC Crowton’s) offensive plays were “complicated” for JJ and when Crowton left, they simplified the plays so he could grasp them.

    I hope Miles allows his coaches to actually coach this year–Chavis is a genius and if he needs a better OC, then get one, but allow them to coach. Maybe require Plan 1, Plan 2, Plan 3, etc. as southernpatriots has posted on CFT before so the coaching fiasco in the Superdome won’t happen again.

  39. truetarheelfan says: Aug 2, 2012 8:14 PM

    I disagree I do agree with LSU Alabama and USC but I think u have to put Oregon in there with those top 3 numbers don’t lie neither does on field performance and while auborn did best them it was far from dominating and last yr if not for freshmen turnovers the game would have been to close to call against LSU I think this Oregon team is not to be forgotten more speed that anybody and I mean ANYBODY in the nation sorry sec but its true so I say top for are LSU Alabama USC and Oregon…. Then it’s everyone else cept for my tarheels we are inelegance smh why did we sell our souls to get this recruits who them left the program in shambles ugh

  40. truetarheelfan says: Aug 2, 2012 8:15 PM

    And look out for the acc league on the rise

  41. hoggette says: Aug 2, 2012 9:48 PM

    Papa bush:

    You seem to be fairly fair about the SEC but what everyone has wrong is that on September 15 we will beat Alabama on College Gameday in Fayetteville! They have some young players and this will be early on.
    This game will change a few things. Go Hogs!

  42. normtide says: Aug 2, 2012 9:48 PM

    Papa, it is football, any giving saturday is always in play. USC stands out in the pac because they play good defense. As for scheduling, are teams like fresno st, utah st, idaho, etc, really that differant than a good fcs school? Ask michigan or virgina tech. Bama loves to start off the year against what should be a great team (schedules are made years ahead). Notre Dame is a power in name only, I bet more then a few fcs teams could give them a fit. And, in the end, how does it affect the bcs title games we win? The bottom line is the best fbs team have a shot at the end of the year, and all have failed.

    Is the SEC unbeatable, no, and the title run has to end. But, until then, all the excuses other fans make are weak. I dislike the miami heat, but that does not mean they are not a great team. Personal feelings do not adjust facts, pain and simple. I am not a fan of kiffen, like many others, but that does not change the fact that SC will be a great team this year.

  43. normtide says: Aug 2, 2012 9:51 PM

    Hoggete, ark and bama have had some great games since they joined the league. I respect them a lot. However, I would youtube some john l smith videos before I jumped onboard the crazy train.

  44. hoggette says: Aug 2, 2012 10:21 PM

    Don’t have to jump on the bandwagon. I have been a season ticket holder for 32 long years. Paul Petrino will call the offensive plays like Coach Smith said. You have to think its finally our turn and we have the more experienced team. Alabama won’t be able to key on Wilson this time and Knile is another part to our puzzle.

  45. truetarheelfan says: Aug 2, 2012 10:23 PM

    Well I am no PAC ten fan but USC doesn’t stand out the head of the conference is Oregon until USC can win the championship game people forget oregons defense was a bunch of freshmen last yr they will be faster more aggressive yet disciplined this yr… They don’t have to play great just good and they always do I mean they do spend most of the time on the field no fault of their own it’s just how they play… As for sec they have the most talent at the top with LSU Alabama and Arkansas but the rest of the league has come back to earth… Fl is no longer feared AU goes through 4 yr cycles of mediocrity and one yr of greatness geargia is always underachieving while SC is always over achieving… I dont this the big conference is that great Ohio state is rebuilding mug hogan needs to put it all together Michigan state is a contender… Acc what can I say let the underachieving begin in my conference with fl state two schools kn probation surprise surprise Miami is under investigation…. Again and UNC well banned from bowl says it all though fedora does appear to be able to recruit… Maybe we won’t sell our souls to get 4 and 5 star recruits again… My take on the preseason poll throw it out let games decide the first poll I think and this is just my opinion, but I think there shouldn’t be a poll til after the third game of the season… Just a thought

  46. truetarheelfan says: Aug 2, 2012 10:25 PM

    That word should be Michigan sorry typing on an iPhone so my bad lol

  47. truetarheelfan says: Aug 2, 2012 10:29 PM

    Well I am no PAC ten fan but USC doesn’t stand out the head of the conference is Oregon until USC can win the championship game people forget oregons defense was a bunch of freshmen last yr they will be faster more aggressive yet disciplined this yr… They don’t have to play great just good and they always do I mean they do spend most of the time on the field no fault of their own it’s just how they play… As for sec they have the most talent at the top with LSU Alabama and Arkansas but the rest of the league has come back to earth… Fl is no longer feared AU goes through 4 yr cycles of mediocrity and one yr of greatness geargia is always underachieving while SC is always over achieving… I dont think the big conference is that great Ohio state is rebuilding michigan needs to put it all together Michigan state is a contender… Acc what can I say let the underachieving begin in my conference with fl state two schools kn probation surprise surprise Miami is under investigation…. Again and UNC well banned from bowl says it all though fedora does appear to be able to recruit… Maybe we won’t sell our souls to get 4 and 5 star recruits again… My take on the preseason poll throw it out let games decide the first poll I think and this is just my opinion, but I think there shouldn’t be a poll til after the third game of the season… Just a thought

  48. truetarheelfan says: Aug 2, 2012 10:32 PM

    Appear entry my phone felt the need to post it twice

  49. truetarheelfan says: Aug 2, 2012 10:32 PM

    Ugh apparently

  50. suprmous says: Aug 2, 2012 10:37 PM

    Coooooo Weeeeeee, good to see southernpatriots and tigersgeaux as well as the rest of you good people. I’m in agreement with you on not wantin to see anymore coachin fiascos AND any more of the other stuff that went on before the team left for the Dome. Lets just say it’s time to let that dawg lie and get on with another fantastic season. southernpatriots, word on the corner has it Zack’s chompin at the bit and ready to show folks how he’s changed and is ready to be both a leader and a champion. If that kid can live up to half of that I’ll be happier than a crawfish in mud. And speakin of food, how in da World am I goin to know which way to find all you good people when I get back? Seems like when I go away for 3 months I almost forget which way I’m goin,hahaha.

  51. normtide says: Aug 2, 2012 10:39 PM

    Hoggette, did not mean to imply you are a bandwagon fan, just that I am not sold on your coach. I think we all know the importance of the head coach. Ark has a great chance of winning due to the facts you stated. In fact, if petrino was still the coach, you would prob be favored in the game.

  52. hoggette says: Aug 2, 2012 10:50 PM

    Don’t even begin to know the hurt all of Arkansas felt over the Petrino mess. Our University did the right thing. So many colleges would have looked the other way and just did the business side.
    He’s a great offensive mind but believe Paul will do a very good job. So, between the reasons I gave and just plain old karma believe we will win this one.

  53. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: Aug 3, 2012 12:40 AM

    You’re hurt over what Petrino did?
    Your should ask PSU how they feel about their former coach?

  54. birdcen says: Aug 3, 2012 12:40 AM

    Everybody loves their team and it’s always great in August…I’m a UGA grad and love my Dawgs! They might be ranked a little high but have a great team. But PAC 12 guy…USC is sick and so is Oregon…other than that…run of the mill. You play 8 games in the SEC and it ain’t FBS. Not saying it’s right but just saying it’s a fact. Good luck!

  55. papabush88 says: Aug 3, 2012 1:59 AM


    And if the Miami Heat scheduled a game against some minor league team, that would be ridiculous. The Sac Kings and Charlotte Bobcats are terrible teams but at least they’re in the NBA. FBS schools should not schedule FCS. The SEC does this more than any top conference. They also play more non AQ teams and non BCS teams than any conference. It’s just deplorable. But the SEC is still good and I enjoy watching teams like Alabama and Arkansas and South Carolina and Florida…but I do not like watching Alabama vs LSU…that was just boring…twice

  56. suprmous says: Aug 3, 2012 3:04 AM

    I don’t think Coach Miles likes havin the bullseye on his back this early in the season and I know I damned sure don’t. What is it with havin preseason polls anyway? You can’t judge anybody if they haven’t gotten any playin time under their belts, c’mon folks in the “journalism” business. You might want to wait before jumpin the gun on this. Not sayin that there isn’t some good teams in the Top 10 but please give me a break and just hold off on the judgement till after the 2nd or 3rd wk into the season will ya?

  57. Pac12Ute says: Aug 3, 2012 5:44 AM

    Clemson, Florida State, Notre Dame, Florida, Texas, and Nebraska in the top 25 after last season… REALLY??? I can understand a few of these teams ending up roughly where they’re at now, but how many times are the pre-season polls going to rank Clemson and Florida State only to have them completely underperform with their above average talent and make the pre-season polls seem even that much more irrelevant?

  58. Pac12Ute says: Aug 3, 2012 5:54 AM

    With the new “playoff” measurements taking into account strength of schedule, these pre-season polls need to be banned. The guess work put into the pre-season polls artificially ranks unproven teams and makes a win against a pre-season top 25 team appear better than it actually is because the team was never really as good as they were ranked. An early loss to a pre-season top 25 results in less of an impact on the losing team’s ranking as well. The only problem with removing the poll is that conferences who find themselves well represented in the top 25 stand to lose the most, so I doubt it will ever happen. BCS 2.0

  59. truetarheelfan says: Aug 3, 2012 8:05 AM

    Well the SEC may schedule alot of fcs schools but not as much as the acc every yr we have at least 4 teams that have to win 7 games instead of six because they play 2 teams in the fcs even though app state is an awesome fcs program I don’t care how good they are they won’t count towards ur bid to be bowl eligible if u play 2 of those type teams and trust me there is a reason no one schedules app state anymore they are quietly the boise state of the east on a smaller scale they never rebuild just reload…. But the SEC schedules alot just not sure if they schedule as many of the cupcakes as the ACC who lately seem to want to thrive in mediocrity

  60. normtide says: Aug 3, 2012 8:55 AM

    The pac does too. Zona or ASU had six wins but missed a bowl cause of to many fcs teams a couple years ago. I still contend that many fcs teams are better then the very bottom of fbs

  61. poison66 says: Aug 3, 2012 9:21 AM

    Clemson #14???????? Lmao…. Oklahoma State should be ahead of that scrub team…….

  62. manchestermiracle says: Aug 3, 2012 10:18 AM

    Great comments on here by (almost) everyone. Outstanding commitments and loyalty to the schools. Best of all, an almost universal dislike of pre-season polls. However, those polls seem to accomplish just what is intended: To hype the coming season and get everyone’s dander up. From the number of replies on just this site, the meaningless pre-season poll has done its job.

    About the only thing the BCS has gotten correct is not putting out a poll until several weeks’ worth of games have been played.

  63. papabush88 says: Aug 3, 2012 11:27 AM


    Yes, other non SEC schools play FCS schools too. But I’m a USC fan and alum and we have never scheduled a game against an FCS opponent. I know some schools in the Pac do it but not USC and not UCLA. And the schools that do it shouldn’t. But the SEC does it more than anyone else and still call themselves the best. I thought you has to beat the best to be the best. Don’t get me wrong, though, I still think that right now the SEC is the top conference.

  64. fhuizar says: Aug 3, 2012 4:43 PM

    Try to get a SEC team to cross the Midwest let alone west of the Mississippi to play a quality opponent and 90% of the time they wont do it. I would love USC to schedule a Tennessee, Alabama, LSU for a home and home. They wont do it. Heck Texas did it.

    It’d be good for the game.

    Lol i still remember USC rolling Auburn at Jordan Hare haha

  65. papabush88 says: Aug 3, 2012 4:52 PM


    USC didn’t just steamroll over Auburn in 2003 at Jordan Hare. It was the No. 9 ranked Auburn team (No. 1 according to Sports Illustrated). An Auburn team composed of Karlos Dansby, Cadillac Williams, Jason Campbell and Ronnie Brown.

    And it was just in 2002 and 2003 that USC beat Auburn. USC played Arkansas in a home and home series in 2005 and 2006. The first game was a 70-17 thrashing of Arkansas where 3 or 4 different Trojan QBs threw at least one TD pass. The second was a 50-14 whooping of Arkansas @ Arkansas. That Arkansas team went on to win the SEC West and had players like Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis, and Darren McFadden.

    LSU and USC need to schedule something. Or USC and Alabama. Or USC and South Carolina.

  66. normtide says: Aug 3, 2012 4:59 PM

    Haha, another cheap excuse. Au went to usc, bama went to ucla a few years back and penn st last year. If you were right, why does the sec teams always rank high on SOS? Also, bama won a title in pasadena, au in arizona, and so forth. You act like usc does not play teams like fresno st or wsu or the other cupcakes, like ND. The 30,000 seat stadium in corvallis is not exactly death valley. USC is a good program, but lets not say they have an nfl sched. They play basicly in a two team league.

  67. papabush88 says: Aug 3, 2012 5:16 PM


    I’m not talking about SOS so much as I am talking about FBS schools playing FCS schools.

    Only three schools have never scheduled a game against an FCS program. ND, USC, and UCLA.

    In the last couple of years, USC has admittedly had a weaker non-conference schedule. This is usually not the case. In the early 2000s, USC played tough teams like Kansas St and Auburn in OOC games. Then others like Nebraska, Virignia Tech, and Arkansas. Then Ohio State. We have Texas coming up in 2017 and 2018. This series was scheduled a few years back. Which brings me to something else you need to consider. Sometimes teams schedule home and home series so far in advance that you have no idea how good a team will be by the team you play them. Could be a great team, like the 2010 Rose Bowl winning Ohio State team that USC beat. Maybe Texas, who has been pretty strong especially on the recruiting trail will be terrible in 2017. Maybe they will be preseason favorites. And we got Hawaii too. They were pretty good a couple times in the last 10 years. My point is that USC plays FBS schools that are AQ and BCS teams. Maybe the particular year they play that team is an off year, but we play solid programs. And we seem to be a better team the tougher our schedule is…like in 2004. USC had toughest schedule and dominated everyone. Don’t forget how good the Pac 12 was not so long ago (in last 10 years). They just got overshadowed because USC was in a league of their own.

  68. tigersgeaux says: Aug 3, 2012 5:26 PM

    From what I have heard LSU has tried to schedule PAC teams and only Oregon and Washington so far have accepted the invitation. Both were scheduled. Responses back from USC, Stanford, and one other was generally that their regular schedule was filled with difficult games already and they weren’t ready at this time to schedule another tough game.

    Maybe the PAC might actually schedule LSU in 2020 or sometime afterward. Oklahoma finally relented and scheduled in 2018 and 19, so there is hope for the PAC teams.

  69. truetarheelfan says: Aug 3, 2012 5:51 PM

    USC is an elite program but they dodge as well… They are right LSU tried to schedule USC and they turned LSU down kidding tried instead for tennessee after first leaving after a yr then second stealing recruits and players on his way out to add insult to injury he offers tenn a chance to play at USC not even at tenn tacky and wrong I think the man can coach but let’s not kid ourselves USC is no saint of a program

  70. fhuizar says: Aug 3, 2012 6:05 PM


    Im saying a regular season true home and home series!

    Not a bowl game or a kickoff classic one time deal

    I’d love to watch bama @ Oregon in autzen

    Usc @ lsu

  71. fhuizar says: Aug 3, 2012 6:10 PM

    Why go down to the Georgia dome for kick off classic

    Why go to dallas for another kick off classic

    Why not just schedule a home and home

    If usc and texas did it, ucla and texas did it

    Why cant SEC teams schedule a real home and home series?

  72. papabush88 says: Aug 3, 2012 6:16 PM


    Exactly. Neutral site stuff is weak. Home and home series is better.

  73. normtide says: Aug 3, 2012 6:28 PM

    The kickoff games are for recruiting, thats why atlanta and dallas are picked, by both teams. Lsu is going to pac country, bama went to b1g country. We have had home and home vs psu, ucla, oklahoma… USC played one with big bad fresno st. Utsa and south alabama are fbs teams now, so are they a tough out now, as opposed to last year when they were fcs? The fact is, for a number of years now the sec has played a top 2 team at the end of the year and won. Does usc play teams as good as lsu every year? As good as au? As ark? As bama? These 4 are in the same division. Usc’s division has zona, asu, colorado, and ucla. None of this are on par. Tbh, usc should win that easily, every year. The b1g plays the mac every year. We win the big games, and you worry about the little ones. Last year bama played lsu, au, and uf, all three have win titles in the last 6 years. Did usc play any former bcs champs? Bama plays 2 top ten teams in the first 3 weeks, usc plays one all year. You want us to play less weak teams, I want yall to play more strong teams.

  74. tigersgeaux says: Aug 5, 2012 9:53 PM

    normtide: That is a good post, that if I were a PAC fan I would not be able to contest. I did not know about USC’s schedule and their opponents rankings so I performed a little Internet and Google research and found your statements correct.

    There is nothing in USC’s schedule to compare to the competition and excellence (quality) of the AAA’s–as southernpatriots’ calls them–(Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas) and LSU and those 4 teams have to face one another, year in and year out. Add in an East team or two or three such as Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina and then add in another team or two ranked in the top 20 or so each year, and it is a schedule that few teams “enjoy” year in and year out.

  75. papabush88 says: Aug 6, 2012 3:42 PM


    Don’t know why you keep mentioning Fresno St. USC played them 7 years ago.

  76. normtide says: Aug 6, 2012 3:57 PM

    Just to make a point, a gimme win is the same regardless of the label. I will put bama or lsu’s sched up against any team out there. Just to be clear, I think usc is one of the few teams that can hang with the sec, year after year. Mainly cause they play defense as well a recruit good. I only disagree with how you imply sec teams have an easy run.

  77. papabush88 says: Aug 6, 2012 5:54 PM


    I’m not saying the SEC has an easy run as much as I am saying that no FBS team should schedule an FCS school. And of the four major conferences (SEC, Pac 12, Big 12, B1G), the SEC seems to do it the most. While there are good FBS teams and bad ones, the FBS, overall, is in an entirely different league than the FCS. That’s what I am saying.

  78. normtide says: Aug 6, 2012 6:14 PM

    Your point would make sense if there was a promotion system, but atm, any school can move up at will. Again, is south alabama tougher this year because they moved up? Some fcs teams are better then say utsa, west kentucky, usa, etc. And again, usc needs to play more good teams before it’s fans should call out the sec.

  79. truetarheelfan says: Aug 6, 2012 7:24 PM

    First there are 5 major conferences say what u want and let te laughing begin but the ACC is considered a major conference and mark my word FSU will be an elite team this yr sec defense will keep them in EVERY GAME VT is always good va is rapidly improving coach fedora is getting elite recruits and clemson will be a beast this yr… Big 12 will have a down yr big only has one real contender PAC is a two team race and I think Oregon will feel disrespected by USCook for them to upset the mighty trojans… Secondly the sec can schedule whoever they want can u imagine potential having to play south Carolina Georgia lady alabama and arkansas all in one season c’mon PAC fan I’m and acc fan and I know that the SEC is crim de la cream in college football… Let’s be real here no one plays the schedule or runs the gauntlet the sec does

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