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More Paterno bio excerpts reveal rift between coach, Sandusky

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More excerpts from Joe Posnanski‘s biography on longtime Penn State coach Joe Paterno have been released four days before the book is set to be released.

Earlier this week, GQ was the first to publish a handful of excerpts. Today, the Patriot-News leaked more, which you can read HERE. They’re all interesting, but there are a few that stick out.

On hearing about Jerry Sandusky and Victim 2 from then-grad assistant Mike McQueary:

“Did you consider calling the police?” Posnanski asked.

“To be honest with you, I didn’t,” Paterno responded. “This isn’t my field. I didn’t know what to do. I had not seen anything. Jerry didn’t work for me anymore. I didn’t have anything to do with him. I tried to look through the Penn State guidelines to see what I was supposed to do. It said that I was supposed to call Tim [Curley]. So I did.”

In a previous testimony regarding the same situation, Paterno was quoted as saying “I ordinarily would have called people right away, but it was a Saturday morning and I didn’t want to interfere with their weekends.” Paterno later lamented that he didn’t do enough.

On Sandusky:

In 1993, Paterno wrote what the family would sometimes call the “Why I Hate Jerry Sandusky Memo.” In it Paterno complained that Sandusky had stopped recruiting, seemed constantly distracted, had lost his energy for coaching, and was more interested in his charity, The Second Mile. “He would gripe about Jerry all the time,” one family member said.

On the Freeh report:

The general media takeaway from this email chain [discussing how Penn State officials should handle McQueary's testimony] was that Paterno had convinced [athletic director Tim] Curley to back off reporting Sandusky and to handle this in-house. Others familiar with the emails believed instead that Paterno had demanded they confront Sandusky.

The email in question, according to the Freeh report, comes just weeks after Sandusky molested Victim 2.  “After giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday, I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps,” the email reads.

The report also  indicates Curley, former president Graham Spanier and former VP Gary Schultz were prepared to execute an action plan after hearing about the Sandusky allegation. The plan included informing the board chairman of Sandusky’s charity, The Second Mile, child welfare services, and to speak with Sandusky. After Curley speaks with Paterno in late February, 2001, the plan changes.

Again, “Paterno” comes out Tuesday, Aug. 21. You can purchase it online or download it for Kindle. If you have $20 in disposable income, it sounds like it’s worth a read.

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86 Responses to “More Paterno bio excerpts reveal rift between coach, Sandusky”
  1. houndofthebaskervols says: Aug 17, 2012 4:51 PM

    Of course there was a “rift” between these two, the myth that they were best pals is just that…pure mythology.

    There is no record of Paterno ever being seen with or speaking to Sandusky after his retirement dinner, which Paterno left early after making a few curt remarks. Eventually the truth will come out, but unfortunately the American public will be off on another witchhunt and nobody will notice.

  2. psublueandwhite says: Aug 17, 2012 5:00 PM

    Too bad this book wasn’t a movie instead. Because most the idiots that are blind anti-Joe, anti-PSU, etc. won’t pick up the book and take the time to read it. They would rather post things online and make absurd statements routed in misinformation.

    I’m guessing already that there will be posts here dismissing the small snippets that have been posted here just because it’s not 100% black and white for them.

  3. dutchman1350 says: Aug 17, 2012 5:13 PM

    The haters will simply say the book is slanted to favor Paterno. Can’t change an idiot’s mind, starting with the NCAA.

  4. mgmac says: Aug 17, 2012 5:13 PM

    “I didn’t know what to do.” so paterno did NOTHING. how about calling the police joepa? you did nothing and that makes you an accomplice to child abuse. you are a loser.

  5. goodellsadouche says: Aug 17, 2012 5:15 PM

    Yeah Paterno didn’t do anything wrong! Funny how the story broke the week AFTER he broke the record. I’m an old man, my memory’s fuzzy. His memory wasn’t fuzzy enough to coach. Face it you clowns, the guy kept the story under lock & key, b/c it’s not gonna be easy to win games when you’re known as Pedophile State University! What would have happened to recruiting if Paterno & the Gang hadn’t buried the fact that it happened, and then continued to play stupid for 12 years?

  6. stairwayto7 says: Aug 17, 2012 5:18 PM

    When will ESPN do a movie about Joe Pa, making it out he is the one who was molesting kids and Sandusky did nothing.

  7. eagles512 says: Aug 17, 2012 5:19 PM

    So if Paterno was indeed asking them to confront him and not do less, things look totally different.

  8. psublueandwhite says: Aug 17, 2012 5:24 PM

    mgmac, where here did it say he did nothing? Looks like he moved it up the chain of command and wanted to pursue it more.

    Of course we’ll get everyone saying, ‘Oh well, if that was me being the tough guy that I am, I wouldn’t have left it at that, I would have pursued it more. I would have beat the crap out of Sandusky.’

    Right.

  9. goodellsadouche says: Aug 17, 2012 5:24 PM

    What if your child was raped repeatively, and nothing was done about it so a Coach could break the record for most wins? Oh he told his boss! IF the disgusting old fossil had a Boss, he would have been out 8 years ago. IF he answered to anyone at that university he wouldn’t have been able to rework his retirement package with all his greedy little perks! Including his wife receiving money EVERY month in HER OWN NAME! That Greedy, vile, repulsive, dirty old man.

  10. dkhhuey says: Aug 17, 2012 5:30 PM

    Gee – there was just no page in the PSU manual on how to handle a child getting anally raped in the shower so I went to sleep and called my boss the next day. BS Joe – you knew exactly what to do! If it were your grandchild, you wouldn’t have f@#$ing waited to do anything!!!

  11. psublueandwhite says: Aug 17, 2012 5:33 PM

    Nothing was done about it so Paterno could break a record?

    Where is this a fact? Show me.

    Also, Sandusky is the one who raped these kids and no one ever mentions him as the public enemy number one, it’s always someone like Joe, Spanier, Curley, Shultz, McQueary, etc.

    A terrible thing happened and people just want to have reasons. It’s too awful to think that one man caused all this, so they need to bring others down with him.

    Well one man did cause all this. None of those people I mentioned wanted kids to be raped. Use some common sense.

  12. mgmac says: Aug 17, 2012 5:59 PM

    psublueandwhite – you are nothing more than an enabling, excuse making sick f@#$. When a crime is committed one usually calls the police. when child molestation occurs in state college, pa. I guess it’s okay to tell your boss. You, the paterno excusers are a bunch of sick mothers. With your logic it’s okay for priests to b-f little boys too. rot in hell you p.o.s.

  13. 2ndaryinsanity says: Aug 17, 2012 6:00 PM

    Yes, Jerry Sandusky was the child molester. But Penn State employees…from the janitors (who saw a child being raped and walked away because they were afraid of losing a job), to the top school officials (who cared more about protecting the school’s reputation and football program than Sandusky continuing to prey on children). That includes the beloved Joe Paterno.
    I have a question for all of you who continue to defend Joe: would you still defend him if YOU were one of the children Sandusky raped? Try to imagine being RAPED and having adults see it happen, then turn their backs on you and WALK AWAY.
    Would you defend him if YOUR child/grandchild/brother/nephew was raped by Sandusky? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

  14. normtide says: Aug 17, 2012 6:09 PM

    Children were raped, at least one on campus. Why are so many psu fans not outraged? Or even ashamed? Thats my question. If this happenend at my school, football would be the farthest thing from my mind.

  15. mgmac says: Aug 17, 2012 6:25 PM

    normtide wrote – Why are so many psu fans not outraged? Or even ashamed?
    normtide, all I can figure is that there are hundreds if not thousands of nambla members and pillow biters that go to psu or have graduated from psu.

  16. normtide says: Aug 17, 2012 6:32 PM

    I didn’t post that as a flame, just an open question. I always admired psu and joepa, but child rape trumps everything else. The university, alums, and fans should be totally focused on making amends and trying to ensure that it can never happen again. Does anything else even matter?

  17. cubano76 says: Aug 17, 2012 6:47 PM

    Would he know what to do if it were one of his grandkids? Just curious.

  18. romneycareupheld says: Aug 17, 2012 6:48 PM

    If you have $20 in disposable income, consider giving it to a children’s charity instead of to a publishing house making money off this topic.

  19. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2012 6:57 PM

    Two facts straight from the horse’s mouth,

    “Did you consider calling the police?” Posnanski asked.

    “To be honest with you, I didn’t,” Paterno responded. “This isn’t my field. I didn’t know what to do. I had not seen anything. Jerry didn’t work for me anymore. I didn’t have anything to do with him. I tried to look through the Penn State guidelines to see what I was supposed to do. It said that I was supposed to call Tim [Curley]. So I did.”

    Why not be a HUMAN being and call the State Police? You knew of prior incidents with Jerry, yet you merely consulted “guidelines” and let it go at that? I guess you thought that the Nuremburg defense would work (I was just following orders,..
    er, guidelines.) It didn’t work then, it doesn’t work now.

    Second point,

    Paterno later lamented that he didn’t do enough.

    Sure, after the cows had left the barn.

    Paterno knew and did nothing.

  20. bobappraisals says: Aug 17, 2012 7:10 PM

    Yeah Paterno was so distraught, this is why Sandusky worked out at the Penn State facilities up to three weeks before Joepa got fired…..Fu@@ this family already. Who cares as you are all a piece of sh@@. Call the cops instead of looking in the “Penn State guidelines book” and be a man instead of a weak coward you were. Joepa, Sandusky, Paterno family and all of their supporters are pieces of sh@@. I hope you find out your children, down the road, got raped and you didn’t hear it about it for ten years. Then your opinion will change if Joepa did enough. I have met so many people that love this man but never actually had a conversation with him. That is the problem. He is a false prophet.

  21. mancave001 says: Aug 17, 2012 7:13 PM

    Mgmac:

    ““I didn’t know what to do.” so paterno did NOTHING. how about calling the police joepa? you did nothing and that makes you an accomplice to child abuse. you are a loser.”

    ================

    He did do something….he reported it to Curley. It wasn’t enough, but it hardly makes him an “accomplice.”

  22. joewilliesshnoz says: Aug 17, 2012 7:18 PM

    Penn St. Sucks, always did suck, and will forever suck, not just for being pedophile protectors, but for revering Paterno the way that they all do.

  23. mogogo1 says: Aug 17, 2012 7:18 PM

    Couldn’t have been too large of a rift given Sandusky had an office on campus and his charity was still welcome for many YEARS after this happened. Sandusky and his charity would have been gone in a heartbeat if Joe had given the word.

  24. truetarheelfan says: Aug 17, 2012 7:27 PM

    Parden me I read the exerts and I saw alot of comments… I don’t believe there is a reason to get angry with people none of us did this… Morally Joepa did not a thing but if u go according to the exerts and what was probably in his contract under proprietary issues Joepa was probably obligated to call his boss and his boss only as said contract would probably specify it would probably go on to say if it was leaked to anyone… And anyone includes authorities he would be fired forfeit all pay Multiple fines and face endless lawsuits… Now again this makes him morally inept and in my book morally is above letter… But let’s not let Sandusky slide the man is a monster and bubba is no doubt having his way with Sandusky right now thank u in advance for being at least cordial about my post

  25. brianbosworthisstonecold says: Aug 17, 2012 8:10 PM

    Did anyone see Joe Sandusky on Comedy Central the other night? He wanted to take a shower with Seth Green.

  26. onceuponatimeinsports says: Aug 17, 2012 8:52 PM

    It’s irrelevant whether Parterno and Sandusky were best friends or worst enemies’ or something in-between. Nobody ever accused Paterno and the others of covering up Sandusky’s crimes as a favor to him or out of some sort of misguided loyalty to a former coach.

    They covered up his crimes because they wanted to save the reputation of the thing that mattered most to them….their beloved football program, pure and simple.

    It didn’t matter if the crimes had been committed by a freshman special team’s player who’d most likely never see the field or the water boy. All that mattered was that no shame or humiliation fall on the Penn St. football program. WHO committed the crime’s had nothing to do with it other than it could be linked back to their precious football team.

    That’s what scared them the most and that’s why Paterno and the others didn’t want any word leaked to the outside world…..period!!

  27. houndofthebaskervols says: Aug 17, 2012 9:04 PM

    It is simply amazing to me how uninformed some of you retards really are. I was hoping the internet would breed a generation of truth seekers, but its done nothing but give us generation after generation of morons. Sad, but true.

  28. blastfurnaceknows says: Aug 17, 2012 9:08 PM

    normtide, your question is the right question and none of the previous PSU posters who are so intellectually superior to the rest of us “idiots,” has answered it. That should tell you something.

    And to those of you PSU supporters out there who think you have been advancing your school’s cause or the PSU/Paterno legacy by continuing to cling to the myth that Paterno was not culpable in every rape of a child that followed the 2001 shower incident, are really only providing everyone else with examples of why the death penalty was not just an appropriate, but necessary, sanction in this over decade long tragedy. You PSU/Paterno apologists simply do not understand that your football program does not trump all else, and certainly not repeated child rape committed by one of PSU’s own for over 10 years. Maybe the death penalty would have made that clear for you.

    Seriously, why are you people so blind to the gravity of what happened here? Why is there such little exhibition of outrage or shame? And why is it that when you do summon that sentiment, it is directed to the NCAA or Freeh or the BOT, and not the PSU culture that allowed Paterno, Spanier, Curley and Schultz to think that the rape of children by one of their own was something that could be ignored for over a decade?

    Yes, Sandusky is an evil monster, no one is discounting that he directly committed the atrocities committed on those children, but like any other monster, the monster that is Sandusky needed a fertile feeding ground, and PSU, Paterno, Spanier, Curley, Schultz, Second Mile, and yes, the PSU culture provided him with just that. For YEARS. And THAT does not outrage you? Because it sure as hell does outrage the rest of us.

  29. houndofthebaskervols says: Aug 17, 2012 9:15 PM

    @ blastmouth

    I’m not blind to it, I just have a better grasp of what really happened than a lot of internet bigmouths that havent bothered to take the time for study. And you are one of the worst examples of that… guilty until proven innocent. “feeding ground…culture..?” LMAO You dont have a damn clue what you’re talking about.

  30. normtide says: Aug 17, 2012 9:27 PM

    Ok, what really happenend? What are we missing? What, in your mind, out weighs child molestation? It is like saying your father was killed at the mall, but the real travesty is that they canceled the sales because of his murder. Imo, psu should be the child welfare epicenter of the world at this point, and football is an after thought. But, maybe I am wrong, so please enlighten me.

  31. blastfurnaceknows says: Aug 17, 2012 9:33 PM

    And dogbreathwhoisabasketcase, what is your truth oh superior, all-knowing one? That because Paterno didn’t stay at the monster’s retirement dinner that he wouldn’t have ignored the monster’s child-raping ways? Seriously, that is your truth? And we are the morons? It’s been said before, but bears mentioning again, it is people like you that have driven the PSU rep even farther into the ground. Seriously, keep posting, you only reveal yourself for what you are, show the NCAA it did NOT do enough, and further cement the public opinion against the PSU culture.

    Also, did you not read Ben’s post? Did it not say that Paterno’s problem with Sandusky had to do with him not being fully committed to the football program? It didn’t say it was because Paterno was repulsed by the allegations that preceded, did it? And, as another poster correctly noted, Paterno and others weren’t necessarily focused on protecting Sandusky anyway – it was only their football program and the Paterno myth that they had in mind. Not the rape of children. No, THAT was easy for them ignore. And, I ask again, where is your outrage at that?

    Never mind basketcase, I don’t really care what an internet moron like you thinks.

  32. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2012 9:35 PM

    Paterno knew.

    There was no rift. If there was a rift, explain why did PSU football players worked the football summer camps for the Second Mile Foundation at the request of Sandusky and signed off and approved by the AD and JoePa?

    Explain why the University general counsel left PSU to work as counsel for the Second Mile Foundation?

    Could it be that PSU wanted someone on the inside of Second Mile to monitor Sandusky’s activities and insulate PSU and give senior administrators a “heads up”?

    Why did the Governor only assign ONE detective to investigate Second Mile allegations? Why did the Governor give $3 million dollars to Second Mile
    when the allegations were apparent and Sandusky
    was still a major part of the Foundation?

    The only word that comes to mind is “incestuous”
    and the like a layer of an onion, as more layers are
    peeled back, the more pungent the odor that is going to emit from State College.

    JoePa knew and did nothing. If he didn’t know, why did he lament that he wished he had done more? A very guilty conscience. After all,

    “We are Penn State!”

  33. truetarheelfan says: Aug 17, 2012 9:42 PM

    Again and this can’t be overstated everyone is harping on Joepa Joepa the man is dead he is gone no matter what u say or do he can’t hear u doesn’t matter what anyone says about him it will never reach him… U only serve to further punish his loved one while Sandusky enjoys virtual invisibility… Yes the cover up was wrong yes joe pa was morally inept I said all this in a previous post the people who should have done something to include Joepa should and have been held responsible Joepa died I believe under the weight of it all… And Sandusky still isn’t getting his… Ummmmm… Just dooo The man raped children repeatedly… Yes there was a cover up I can’t denie it (I am no psu supporter or fan) but Sandusky if he was doin it there he was doing it at home in a hotel room where ever his sick desires took him.. To psu fans Joepa was human he wasn’t God he didn’t hav a supernatural powers he was wrong everytime u out a human on a pedistool God will show u they are human… Even dean smith is just a human… So sorry it happened to ur school I wish that scandal on not even dook

  34. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2012 9:49 PM

    To the Penn State Supporters,

    How can you accept that JoePa gave Sandusky access
    to the PSU bowl festivities in the 1999 Alamo Bowl?

    For Jerry to have sideline passes issued by the Athletic Department and approved by the Football Staff and attend Penn State football functions?

    You may ask why is this important. One of Sandusky’s rape victims was told by Sandusky to toe the line and have sex with him or Sandusky would send him home.

    Joe Pa knew and allowed Sandusky to conduct his crimes against innocents time and time again.

    All for the greater glory of PSU football.

    Where are Penn State priorities?

  35. truetarheelfan says: Aug 17, 2012 9:52 PM

    Umm…. Nobody found out til 2001 one that’s probably why he was on the sidelines

  36. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2012 9:56 PM

    houndofthebaskervols says: Aug 17, 2012 9:04 PM

    It is simply amazing to me how uninformed some of you retards really are. I was hoping the internet would breed a generation of truth seekers, but its done nothing but give us generation after generation of morons. Sad, but true.

    ______________________________

    Hound,

    Do be so hard on yourself.

  37. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 17, 2012 10:04 PM

    truetarheelfan says: Aug 17, 2012 9:52 PM

    Umm…. Nobody found out til 2001 one that’s probably why he was on the sidelines

    and……what happened in 1998 was never discussed
    by Joe Pa and Curley? Joe Pa was so adamant about
    Sandusky not being allowed near PSU football facilities when Sandusky “retired”, yet allows Sandusky access to HIS football team bowl practices and team events and HIS football team social functions while on a a University sponsored Bowl trip?

    Joe Pa knew

  38. truetarheelfan says: Aug 17, 2012 10:08 PM

    Yeah keep digging. Though I do like ur theories… Makes sense but let me ask wasn’t it around this time that Joepa told Sandusky he would never be considered as a successor? Just a question

  39. houndofthebaskervols says: Aug 17, 2012 10:16 PM

    @ blastmouth

    Why do I need to bother explaining anything to you retards, you’ve already made up your mind simply from reading the headlines.

    (bracing for more liars claiming “I’VE READ THE FREEH REPORT 7 TIMES!!!!!!!!!” lol

  40. gfj7000 says: Aug 17, 2012 10:59 PM

    Well – Ben – you said you wouldn’t be writing any more articles or Headlines about PSU? What happened? Are you getting the disease again? You said you were ONLY going to focus on the massive news throughout the country since the games start Sept. 1st or earlier. So, let’s stop the music – and go back to reporting on ALL of the rest of the country.
    Personally for two months I’ve probably written 10 pages in comments (probably more than you all), but now with publicizing a $20 book for the author’s pockets – who in this world (unless you like feeding on immoral/disgusting trash) – would pay a dime for this book, unless you like reading that stuff.?. I’m donating my $ to church / don’t need more trash filling my brain about Paterno’s words in a bio / nor reading the FREEH report again. Sure maybe we’ll see some of the inaccuracies in the FREEH report via this book etc. – The NCAA did a MAJOR injustice (whether Joe, or the big 4 are to blame) – they’ve penalized innocent students who will have the name of MUD under their helmets every week trying to rebuild their self-esteem & the marred image of their school. The NCAA ‘blew it’ by TAKING the work of OTHERS as ‘the Bible’ of what happened and did NOTHING of their OWN investigation on the whole subject. I truly have a hard time with that – so, in effect – THEY (NCAA) are acting as God and did nothing but PRONOUNCE the JUDGMENT. All the NCAA did was ‘smoke a cigar with a drink’ – read a few pages of the FREEH report, and said ‘THANK YOU’ Mr. FREEH, we have what we need to pronounce judgment – YOU SURE HAVE SAVED US (NCAA committee members) A LOT OF TIME FOR US TO DO OUR OWN INVESTIGATION. This is my last writing on anything related to PSU. I don’t even desire to read Ben’s notes anymore – because HE said 2-3 weeks ago that he wouldn’t be writing any more about PSU. Ben – I say – let the normal media venues (instead of NBC sports) cover the Sandusky jail time verdict, others’ in command with their judgments, Paterno’s bio., and anything else related to the Rise & Fall of PSU. You probably have another 100 articles to write for the rest of America’s football.

  41. savethisname says: Aug 17, 2012 11:02 PM

    @mgmac

    The idiot who did nothing was McQueary! He witnessed the act not Paterno. If you witnessed something like that would you go home and talk to dad and then go to the coach the next day?
    I hope not, Paterno did what he thought was right based on what McQueary told him and no one really knows what that was, obviously McQueary can now slant it how he likes. The fact is he witnessed it, did nothing, and ten years later when the grand jury heated things up he remembered more clearly what he had seen. Give me a break.
    There is a lot more to this case then meets the eye.
    Just like the whole 1998 investigation that was dropped when so many people had knowledge that something unsettling was going on. So please get off the “crush Paterno band wagon” and open your eyes. This investigation is far from over.

  42. blastfurnaceknows says: Aug 17, 2012 11:13 PM

    basketcase, thank you for enlightening us with your (dis)connected insight. Like I said, every time you post, you prove you are a irreparably damaged person who supports an indefensible institution.

    But, to respond to your query regarding a reference to PSU as a “feeding ground,” I ask the following questions: 1) did a high profile coach at PSU rape children?; 2) did he sexually assault a child in the showers of a PSU football building?; 3) did he groom his child rape victims with PSU football tickets?; 4) did he sexually assault a child while at a PSU bowl game?; 5) did Spanier, Paterno, Curley and Schultz know about the sexual assault of a child on PSU property in 2001?; 6) did they respond to that disgusting revelation by deciding it was best to “talk to” the rapist rather than locate and protect the victim?; 7) did the whole lot of them decline to report their child rapist colleague to any outside authority thereafter?; 8) did they know that their child rapist colleague continued to bring potential child victims on to campus for nearly a decade and fail to stop it?; 9) was their child rapist colleague found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of sexually assaulting children during that time frame?; 10) was their child rapist colleague found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of sexually assault of a child in a PSU football lockeroom?

    Any sane person would understand that the answer to each of those questions is YES, and that is why PSU and its grotesque culture served as a feeding ground for the child rapist PSU coach. And that is why it is uniquely disturbing.

    One last question, does the basketcase who attempts to prove his unique insight into this tragedy by calling everyone else a “retard” (you are a class act, PSU should be proud to call you a supporter) understand that?

  43. 111um says: Aug 17, 2012 11:51 PM

    amosalanzostagg,

    You just proved you do not know much about what has gone on at Penn State. Do a little research. The 1998 case was investigated. Haven’t you read anything about the AG who is now the Governor investigating and not finding enough evidence. My guess is that they probably believed what the police said.

  44. savethisname says: Aug 17, 2012 11:53 PM

    I attended PSU many years ago and had nothing to do with the football program or games, it was and still is a fine university. I am so sick of the losers on these blogs piling all their hate and disgust of these horrible crimes on the whole university. The vast majority of the Penn State community had no knowledge of any of this at any time. There are many students and faculty at PSU not interested in college sports at all, so shut up and move on you are starting to sound like a bunch of raving lunatics.
    This is a criminal investigation and should have been handled like one. The emphasis should not be on the NCAA sanction. There should be emphasis only on the criminal actions of those involved and NOT the Penn State community as a whole. Those of you condemning anyone associated with Penn State are ridiculous. Move on and start ranting about the academic fraud at UNC. Oh that’s right that has nothing to do with the NCAA it only involves, student athletes and academics why would they care about that.

  45. 111um says: Aug 18, 2012 12:24 AM

    blastfurnaceknows,

    I consider myself pretty sane. But the answer to question 1. No for two reasons. A. He wasn’t a coach in 2001 and B. I would hardly call him high profile. Most people never heard of him before this. As for all the questions about him being a colleague. Would you consider somebody you have not worked with in years your colleague. From the reports I read, they did not have much of a relationship at all after he retired. I believe even the Freeh Report stated that Paterno didn’t want Sandusky around the football team. I would hardly consider that enabling him.

    Before you write 3 pages on why I am an idiot or something like that I will say I do not condone the way Penn State handled this. I just do not understand why nobody is calling McQuery the monster. All he had to do was call the police. Even if Paterno notified the state police there would be no investigation without McQuery’s statement.

  46. anythingbutyanks says: Aug 18, 2012 12:52 AM

    So, once again, the take away I get from this is that JoePa and Sandusky had a bit of a falling out over the issue of coaching, football, and wins, but not over his predatory behavior aimed at trusting, innocent young boys. JoePa was a great football coach. Human being? Not so much.

  47. blastfurnaceknows says: Aug 18, 2012 1:03 AM

    111um, Sandusky did not just blow into town for a year or two – he was a PSU/Paterno employee for 30 some years. He was considered Paterno’s 2nd in command for the latter part of his tenure. If you would not have considered such a person a colleague, then that either speaks to your comprehension of the term or, perhaps, to your misplaced desire to grab at any imaginary straw in an effort to distance Paterno from his child raping assistant and long-term colleague.

    Also, did you miss that Paterno offered Sandusky a job with PSU football in 1999 (after he knew about the 1998 allegations) for as long as Paterno was head coach?

    See, that wasn’t 3 pages and I didn’t call you an idiot. I just think that if your venom is directed at Paterno’s red-headed assistant, rather than, or perhaps in addition to, the PSU leadership responsible for ignoring the gravity of the 2001 incident and the parade of victims brought on to their campus by the rapist for YEARS thereafter, that you are either misguided or misinformed.

  48. jelliot1978 says: Aug 18, 2012 1:35 AM

    First and foremost a horrendous thing happened to far to many children. Second there are at least two people who covered this up and they are facing charges and Paterno was not one of those. The Freeh report has some hard evidence against Spainer, Schultz, and Curley yet the evidence on Paterno is sketchy at best. Now he could have been part of the cover up or he might not have been. Did he really want them to do more? It is hard to tell. Paterno should have ‘done more’ but didn’t, he should have gone to the police especially when it seemed like the people he thought were handling it didn’t. We may never know to what extent things happened. As to the students and athletes at PSU they to are affected by this as 99% of them had no knowledge of this, there is still a lot of good at the University. The administration, and the NCAA aided this, allowed the football team to much importance that made supposed educated men act not in a moral way.

    As to the 98 incident my question to everyone would be this. If you knew someone was being investigated for something and had very little knowledge other than the police are looking into him and time goes by and he is never arrested, nobody says anything more about it, should you think he is guilty? Now the DAs office and others failed to do anything but unless you had evidence to the contrary how can you treat him as guilty? I’ve known people arrested and later found not guilty (someone else was later convicted), should we assume just because they are arrested they did it?

    I truly hope the abused children can adjust and function and prosper in this life despite the tragedy they have suffered.

    PS to the guy who said he would rather give money to his church then to buy this book, I really hope you are not catholic, that church is a 1000 times worse than anything that happened at PSU. If it was sarcasm…..well played.

  49. 111um says: Aug 18, 2012 1:55 AM

    blastfurnaceknows,

    I am just pointing out that he was not a coach at the time. I know what the term colleague means. Depending on how you want to interpret the definition depends on what you think. I personally feel like he should be referred to as a former colleague so people do not get confused and think he was a current coach. Read up a bit. I get the feeling a lot of people think he was a vital member of the staff in 2001.

    Since I am so misinformed. I should inform you that in 1999 he was offered a job at PSU but not by Paterno. He was offered a job at PSU Altoona to start their football program. I guess all PSU jobs are offered by Paterno regardless of what school they are at.

    Finally, I do think Paterno could have done more. I never said he did nothing wrong. It was a failure by several school officials. I think hindsight is 20/20. I also do not think he covered it up to protect the program. It does not make sense that a coach known for doing everything right and having great moral integrity would not have benefited from exposing this in 2001. I think more parents would have pushed their kids to go there because of his character. To me it would have added to his legendary status. I feel that nobody knew what to do. Nobody had to deal with that before so there was no script to follow.

  50. cbass59 says: Aug 18, 2012 8:35 AM

    Joe Paterno, the cowardly lion.

  51. loadofwash says: Aug 18, 2012 8:50 AM

    This will be a great book and soon the mob will know that joe was a great man. To hell with the haters.

  52. dannythebisforbeast says: Aug 18, 2012 9:19 AM

    Why is it that why this author says is bullsh!t. But things like like the freeh report are gospel? Joe paterno was an ordinary person who did not witness a thing,did not interfere in ANY investigations and no doubtedly had no idea oaf sanduskys evil.
    Of course it’s easy now when everything comes to light. Sandusky raped kids probably for 40 years or more and fooled people, somehow joe Paterno was the one who was supposed to figure it all out.
    Think about it, in all sanduskys time why did no one else report him? Maybe he just pulled the wool over people’s eyes his whole life.

    @blast from the other day -sanduskys not guilty charge was not because there was no witness. But according to at least two jurors who gave interviews after the trial said. McQueary wasn’t sure what he saw and wasn’t convincing in his testimony

  53. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 18, 2012 10:25 AM

    111um says: Aug 17, 2012 11:51 PM

    amosalanzostagg,

    You just proved you do not know much about what has gone on at Penn State. Do a little research. The 1998 case was investigated. Haven’t you read anything about the AG who is now the Governor investigating and not finding enough evidence. My guess is that they probably believed what the police said.
    ______________________
    So sorry to hurt your feelings, but was this the same “investigation” in which two “policemen” overheard Sandusky being confronted by the mother of the victim and Sandusky promising he
    would not shower with little boys any more? How did that “promise” turn out? The same “investigation” in which Sandusky said he wished he was dead? That investigation?

    As to the Governor, why was only ONE detective
    assigned to the case? Why wasn’t Sandusky’s
    lap top computer seized? Why wasn’t a search order
    signed by the appropriate authorities to review phone records of the Second Mile until after the
    indictments against Sandusky had been filed?

    As to McQuery, yeah, he should have gone to the Police as well, but when you have such a corrupt
    organization as PSU Football under Paterno,
    He feared for his job just like the two janitors did.
    When good people could not go to Joe Paterno’s
    office and tell him the truth. you have a problem.
    Remember, the janitors said that going to Paterno’s
    office was like going into the Office of the President
    of the United States. Pure intimidation.

    Joe Pa knew and did nothing… He covered up for his “precious” football program and legacy.

    Some legacy, enabling a serial child molester to
    use HIS football program to rape little boys.

  54. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 18, 2012 10:32 AM

    loadofwash says: Aug 18, 2012 8:50 AM

    This will be a great book and soon the mob will know that joe was a great man. To hell with the haters.
    __________________________

    Joe Pa knew Sandusky since 1969. Sandusky’s
    office was two doors down from Joe Pa’s.

    Joe Pa allowed Sandusky to use HIS name, HIS
    Football program, HIS Football facilities to rape little boys.

    If Joe Pa is so great, why is PSU getting rid of the
    Sandusky shower room?

    Could it be that the statue and shower room would
    be constant, daily reminders of the CRIMES committed and good men did NOTHING?

    Joe Pa knew and covered up.

  55. loadofwash says: Aug 18, 2012 10:32 AM

    Yep, that MUST be right. Joe knew about rape. Ok, that makes perfect sense. Such idiots.

  56. chiefagc5675 says: Aug 18, 2012 10:36 AM

    It is still my belief that the most hateful posts are from people who were abused as kids and did nothing to out their abuser and they have spent their whole lives living for cases like this so they could shout out about the evil- evil they did nothing about when it was their turn. Second Mile was not mentioned in the Freeh report- why? well what an embarrassment it would have been to his good friend the Gov. of Pa. who donated $3 MILLION to the pedophile’s organization- an organization that employued social workers better trained in spotting pedophiles than an old football coach-but didn’t.
    Many other Republicans attached themselves to Second Mile for the benefit it would give their resumes- no mention by Freeh. The Gov. failed to prosecute the case when he had the chance. Why? This is just another Republican cover up.
    Like the cover up of J. Edgar Hoover and his good buddy and 2nd in command and their cross dressing week-ends all while claiming to be against blacks and gays. Republicans are corrupt,
    wide stance or not- and they were more than knee deep in the Sandusky crimes.

  57. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 18, 2012 10:43 AM

    If I had been my choice of the penalty phase of
    “Rapegate” w PSU.

    I would have shut down the entire ATHLETIC program for four years,.

    I would have had the entire NCAA vote for PSU’s
    dismissal from the NCAA, and

    No revenue sharing or TV for a decade.

    PSU got off light compared to the talk by some
    PSU supporters of an undefeated season this year.

    Joe Pa knew.

  58. t16rich says: Aug 18, 2012 10:58 AM

    Massive government cover up. No one is suspicious that Graham Spanier has links to Franklin Cover Up? No one is suspicious how the former Penn St who was at the head of the school during the cover up gets a top confidential job with homeland security? No one is suspicious that 2 of the original investigators were found dead in 03 and 05? One whose body has never been found but his laptop was at the bottom of the river. The other was stabbed 36 times and ruled a suicide. If that doesn’t sound suspicious, I don’t know what does. This goes way above Joe Pa. Maybe he covered it up, but people need to realize there are people in way higher places covering this up than Joe Pa. Yes I am talking government pedophiles.

  59. floriosfuglykid says: Aug 18, 2012 11:25 AM

  60. loadofwash says: Aug 18, 2012 11:29 AM

    Amoral…that’s why you don’t have a choice. You’re incompetent. Ha ha what an idiot.

  61. loadofwash says: Aug 18, 2012 11:29 AM

    Joe IS the greatest coach and mentor of all time!

  62. 11thstreetmafia says: Aug 18, 2012 11:55 AM

    All of the penn state backers keep saying that the truth will come out. What truth? What could possibly come out to make Paterno look better? The fact that he didn’t really respect a child molester? Is this the golden truth? He says, “I didn’t want to interfere with their weekend,” when referring to the police. Wow, that’s rich.

  63. t16rich says: Aug 18, 2012 12:15 PM

    11thstreetmafia says:
    Aug 18, 2012 11:55 AM
    All of the penn state backers keep saying that the truth will come out. What truth? What could possibly come out to make Paterno look better? The fact that he didn’t really respect a child molester? Is this the golden truth? He says, “I didn’t want to interfere with their weekend,” when referring to the police. Wow, that’s rich.

    Nothing can make him look better, but hopfully the truth of the government workers comes out. Take a look at current PA Gov Tom Corbett. Do some research into him and Sandusky and you will see that the current Gov helped delay any investigation and info from being relelased to public. I wonder why? Maybe to take his name out of it or whoever works in his office that was involved out of it. Way more important people covered this up than Joe Pa.

  64. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 18, 2012 12:31 PM

    yep Sargent Schultz pretty well sums up Paterno

  65. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 18, 2012 12:35 PM

    We are Penn State!

  66. savethisname says: Aug 18, 2012 1:06 PM

    This investigation if unhampered will bring into light that the cover up of these horrible crimes went way over Paterno’s head. He may of been the power figure in earlier years but not in the end of his career at Penn State. The BofT, the AD, the university president, investigators, second mile administrators; there were so many aware of what was going since 1998. Many of them were trained on the warnings signs of identifying a child predator and still did not act on the information circulating. Don’t know if we will ever know the full extent of the cover up but there is so much that needs to be reviewed. To all of you “Paterno haters” yes he could of done more but he was not the power behind the cover up, stop kidding yourselves. It’s always easier to hate the figurehead rather than: a 27 year no- name grad assistant who witnessed a child rape, a police department who obviously actively covered up the crimes, university administrators who covered up and then lied about their involvement, a charity devoted to the welfare of under privileged kids who had on staff trained professionals who were trained on dealing with child molestation cases, Sandusky’s wife who clearly had knowledge of his crimes. The list could go on even further, but no it’s easier for you to blame Paterno rather than using your intellect to realize how complex and disgusting this scandal is. Life must be simple for those of you who can conclude so emphatically that Paterno was the mastermind behind the scandal, it’s easier than actually thinking about how horrible it is that so many people in a postition to end Sandusky’s abuse stood around and did nothing.

  67. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 18, 2012 2:18 PM

    savethisname says: Aug 18, 2012 1:06 PM

    This investigation if unhampered will bring into light that the cover up of these horrible crimes went way over Paterno’s head. He may of been the power figure in earlier years but not in the end of his career at Penn State. The BofT, the AD, the university president, investigators, second mile administrators; there were so many aware of what was going since 1998. Many of them were trained on the warnings signs of identifying a child predator and still did not act on the information circulating. Don’t know if we will ever know the full extent of the cover up but there is so much that needs to be reviewed. To all of you “Paterno haters” yes he could of done more but he was not the power behind the cover up, stop kidding yourselves. It’s always easier to hate the figurehead rather than: a 27 year no- name grad assistant who witnessed a child rape, a police department who obviously actively covered up the crimes, university administrators who covered up and then lied about their involvement, a charity devoted to the welfare of under privileged kids who had on staff trained professionals who were trained on dealing with child molestation cases, Sandusky’s wife who clearly had knowledge of his crimes. The list could go on even further, but no it’s easier for you to blame Paterno rather than using your intellect to realize how complex and disgusting this scandal is. Life must be simple for those of you who can conclude so emphatically that Paterno was the mastermind behind the scandal, it’s easier than actually thinking about how horrible it is that so many people in a postition to end Sandusky’s abuse stood around and did nothing.

    Blah, blah, blah,

    Joe Pa knew and never made ONE phone call. Pick your date 1998 or 2001, he NEVER made ONE
    phone call. He was Joe Paterno, you think he would NOT have any credibility if HE filed a complaint with the State Police?

    If Joe Pa was SO innocent, how come his grand jury
    testimony says he didn’t know, yet when he is dumped by the BoT, he laments he wished he had done more? Was Joe lying before the Grand Jury or was he lying when he got canned?

    Can PSU supporters answer that simple question?

  68. savethisname says: Aug 18, 2012 3:29 PM

    @amosalanzostagg:

    Stop waisting space on the blog by copying and pasting the whole blog post of people you are commenting to it’s obnoxious.
    Your train of thought is so flawed it’s almost not worth responding to but for the record Paterno
    did call the AD after McQueary came to him in 2001.
    As far as the 1998 reference, there was a open police investigation going on that involved a parent of one of the victims. If you read the Freeh report it is hard to understand how or why they would have dropped the investigation after the statements made by Sandusky. To think that it was Paterno who was responsible for dropping the ball there you are delusional.
    It is easy to say in hindsight that he wished he had done more, that was after he had heard the testimony and the facts of the case which were not exposed yet. I do support Penn State University, it is a fine institution. I am sick of idiots like you lumping everything together and call people “PSU supporters” like it is something bad. Go ahead and bash Paterno (postmortem) if you find it so satisfying. The sad thing is it’s really a small part of the ongoing investigation and that’s all you seem to rant about.

  69. csilojohnson says: Aug 18, 2012 4:44 PM

    I find it horrible that more press was focused on JoePa through all this. Almost to the point you would think he committed the horrendous act. That being said, anyone who thinks he did nothing wrong… well lets just say I wouldnt want you anywhere near my kids. If I got word of something like that there is no way in h*ll it would’ve been covered up. They would’ve had to kill me before I would allow another day to pass with that scum bag around any kids. That coward Mcquery would be out of a job as well. Get with it people.

  70. ryanw822 says: Aug 18, 2012 4:58 PM

    If you have $20 in disposable income, consider giving it to a children’s charity instead of to a publishing house making money off this topic.

    _____________________________________

    to be fair to the author, the author was following Paterno around long before this story broke in the national news. It just so happened he was around Paterno doing research for the book when this news broke.

    It’s not like the author decided to write a book about this particular situation once news broke.

  71. amosalanzostagg says: Aug 18, 2012 5:12 PM

    Save,

    Personally, I am glad PSU has supporters like you and thousands of other to help it through the troubling days that are ahead for the school. with that being said, it is only flawed thinking by those people who are too emotionally involved with PSU that can’t see the forest for the trees. Paterno knew, Spanier knew, Curley knew, Smith knew, a whole lot of people (University Police and still missing DA knew) yet did nothing about Sandusky.

    Delusional is being a Head Football Coach @ a major program and knowing you are enabling a man to commit major crimes against innocent boys in YOUR football facility on YOUR campus and STILL maintaining a “relationship” with a sexual predator by signing off for your football players to work with the sexual predator in summer camps enabling him to target future victims. Then when you’re fired, you’re crying that you should have done more.

    Save, if Sandusky had raped YOUR son in that shower you would want more done than reporting it to your supervisors. You know it, I know it

    Even now, fans on Black Shoes Diaries are touting an undefeated season as if nothing happened. The
    responsible alums and supporters should be outraged and demanding wholesale resignations of
    Board members, University officials and administrators and be very vocal about it. What do
    you hear? Crickets.

    Save, what do you think the penalties will be to PSU
    on clear cut Clery violations?

    What do you think the Mid Atlantic Accreditation
    Board will demand from PSU in order for PSU to
    comply with there guidelines?

    Since the sitting judge on the perjury trial for Smith
    and Curley has said that jury selection starts in January, 2013, the fine name of PSU will get drug
    through the mud again.

    I pray and hope that alums and supporters of PSU
    find solace during these rough times.

  72. savethisname says: Aug 18, 2012 6:07 PM

    I’m not in a position or do I feel the need to hypothesize on the outcome of the investigation.
    Unlike you I will wait to form my full opinion when more of the facts come out.
    I don’t think anyone involved wants your prayers or concerns since you are the type of person who condemns and convicts before the process has been finished. I don’t support any particular individual in this whole mess I am just not inclined to find things as simple as you. I would hate to have you as a juror on a trial, but then again you wouldn’t make it through jury screening so no worries there. No one who really cares about this whole mess is confusing the graveness of this scandal with the prospects of a great football season, so get over yourself and realize that football fans have a right to be excited about their team. You seem to not be able to comprehend that about 99.something percent of the people at PSU, or that are affiliated with PSU, had no complicity in this horrible scandal. Move on and find another wagon to jump on or preferably jump off.

  73. malkinrulez says: Aug 18, 2012 6:23 PM

    Really not that difficult .a boy is being molested u call the police, not “send it up the chain of command”, police handle criminal matters , administration handles policy violations! Joe pa looked the other way! For that he is a scumbag

  74. truetarheelfan says: Aug 18, 2012 6:44 PM

    Wow shut down the whole athletic dept? Not fair at all it was the FOOTBALL program an even now I am not so sure the sanctions on the football team were fair why are the players suffering? Not players faults… Idk and as for the guy who mentioned UNC it’s the football program under investigation nothing else and as it is turning out it wasnt just athletes but anyone one in afam studies that took the nonexistent classes got gaudy grades for NOTHING… So it is just academic fraud… No preferential treatment was showed… Now back to psu so why shut down the whole athletic dept so unfair and poorly thought… Now it is beginning to sound like history remember Salem and the witch hunts? Remember all the secret trials to find secret communist? Yeah that’s what that one statement read like

  75. savethisname says: Aug 18, 2012 6:45 PM

    That’s exactly right, expect the u is McQueary. Why didn’t McQueary call the police when HE WITNESSED a boy being molested by Sandusky. I have said that all along. Do we really know what McQueary said to Paterno, after talking it over with his dad who was a good friend of Sandusky. Hmmmm……let me think….. the answer is NO. None of us really know except for McQueary and he has changed his story so many times who knows what he told Paterno. None of this would have even happened if somebody didn’t interfer in the 1998 police investigation, Sandusky could have and should have been prosecuted back then.

  76. loadofwash says: Aug 18, 2012 7:34 PM

    Making is an idiot.

  77. drarb says: Aug 18, 2012 8:57 PM

    amosalanzostagg
    1. There was an investigation in 1998 and the DA for whatever reason did not prosecute. Paterno had nothing to do with the 1998 incident – get your facts straight
    2. If the Grand Jury or Attorney General had thought he was guilty of something he, Paterno would have been indicted. He wasn’t in fact according to the AG of PA he followed the law of 2001 – tough to follow law that didn’t exist yet
    3. The BoT used Paterno as a scapegoat so there would not be an in-depth investigation – follow the money to Corbett and members of the BoT of second mile – all the focus would be on him and those way up in the food chain could walk away
    4. Middle States will do nothing about PSU’s accreditation – this is their chance to look tough – I know I have been a Middle States reviewer
    5. The Clery Reporting problems are maybe problematic – we don’t know if PSU did not file the reports or did not file what it did not know happened when the reports were to be filed.
    6. Paterno could not keep Sandusky away from anything – those decisions were made a lot higher up than he was – read the report from Freeh – you might be shocked.
    8. McQueary is the real culprit here – if he calls the police or finds out who the child is or beat the hell out of Sandusky – instead the BoT focuses on Paterno – go figure.
    9. Finally there is not one of us who when looking back at events hash;t said I wish I had done more – if you have never done so then I pity you.

  78. ghengy says: Aug 18, 2012 11:08 PM

    malkinrulez is a retard.

    @ drarb

    Of course you are 100% on the $$$, now try and sell that to a public that believes that all these mass shootings are real, or that the war in Iraq was necessary because of all of Saddam’s massive WMD stockpile, or that we went to Afghanistan to get Bin Missin who actually had not a damn thing to do with 9.11.

    Its an uphill battle my friend, but keep it up!

  79. loadofwash says: Aug 18, 2012 11:36 PM

    Paterno is a legend and the mob of haters can’t change that as hard as they try to use manipulated head lines.

  80. klownboy says: Aug 19, 2012 12:02 AM

    Just sad all the way around…

  81. truetarheelfan says: Aug 19, 2012 6:40 PM

    Horrible tragedy

  82. thetooloftools says: Aug 20, 2012 9:00 AM

    “Others familiar with the emails believed instead that Paterno had demanded they confront Sandusky”… and they would be wrong. Paterno ran that school (forget just the football program) with an iron fist and what he said was law. If he wanted it acted upon he would have stomped anyone who didn’t fulfill his wishes. Don’t be naive.

  83. eightysixisback says: Aug 20, 2012 11:49 AM

    Hey idiots that keep acting like every single person with ties to penn state is responsible for what happened: there is a pedophile in every town in this country probably. By the logic of you geniuses who feel that i our thousands of others who went to PSU or have some connection to the school share responsibility with a few INDIVIDUALS who were involved in this scandal you are all guilty of the same things because trust me there is one in your town or at your alma mater too. I agree that spanier, paterno, curley, etc didn’t do enough and deserve to be punished for it. i hope sandusky burns in hell. But those of you who blame the school or worse yet anyone who is in any way associated with it are idiots. There were a few INDIVIDUALS who made the decision to cover this up. I agree that it was to save their own asses or not to tarnish the football program but how exactly does that make it the schools fault or the football team’s fault or everyone who is associated with the school’s fault? Again if you feel that we are all responsible too because of our ties to PSU then believe me someone could blame you for children who have been molested in your town too. It ridiculous to blame penn state. Blame the individuals who made the decisions not those of us who knew nothing about what was happening.

  84. togodbethglory says: Aug 20, 2012 5:40 PM

    Sorry, Just testing out my comment ability. Yours was the first blog I pulled up! God Bless!

  85. loadofwash says: Aug 20, 2012 9:41 PM

    Thetooloftools…

    You tool. How is it psu joined the big 10 without jopa’s blessing? Hey tool, how is it Sandusky was still permitted on site after joe said no to it? You fricken tool. STFU.

  86. ghengy says: Aug 24, 2012 5:38 PM

    “Paterno ran that school (forget just the football program) with an iron fist and what he said was law.”

    What a friggin retard! I mean seriously, where do you clowns get this stuff?

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