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Updated: Arkansas hires… Bret Bielema

Bret Bielema, Montee Ball AP

Wait, what?

When Arkansas officially “chose not to renew the contract” of interim coach John L. Smith, athletic director Jeff Long said he planned to have a new coach in place by early December. More specifically, within 10-14 days.

Well, it’s Day 10 and the rumors of who might fill the vacancy in Fayetteville were firing all over the Twitterverse Tuesday afternoon. First, Baylor coach Art Briles appeared to be close to being the Razorbacks’ next coach, but Joe Schad of ESPN reports that Briles is now working on a new contract  with BU.

Then, the attention shifted to Oklahoma State’s Mike Gundy, who like Briles, was hired and then not hired in a matter of minutes. Gundy was also connected to the Tennessee job and reportedly interviewed with the Vols.

It was all quite entertaining, really.

But the bombshell was dropped around 3 p.m. ET when Pat Forde of Yahoo! Sports reported that Arkansas hired Wisconsin coach Bret Bielema. The Associated Press and ESPN’s Mark Schlabach later confirmed the report and added that Bielema wants to coach his team in the Rose Bowl against Stanford. The Badgers are three days removed from a blowout win over Nebraska in the Big Ten championship game.

The school is expected to announce the hire later in the afternoon.

Last year, Bielema was quoted “We at the Big Ten don’t want to be like the SEC in any way, shape or form” when referencing Ohio State and former Florida head coach Urban Meyer’s recruiting tactics.

Guess that’s changed.

Updated 7:30 p.m. ET: Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez has responded to Arkansas hiring Badgers coach Bret Bielema.

“I was very surprised when Bret told me he was taking the offer from Arkansas. He did a great job for us during his seven years as head coach, both on the field and off. I want to thank him for his work and wish him the best at Arkansas.

“I have a responsibility to our student-athletes, our football family and our fans, one that I take very seriously. It is my responsibility to ensure that the football program continues at a high level, and I have already started the process of trying to find a new head coach.

“Along with finding a new coach, my other main objective is to make sure that our student-athletes, specifically our seniors playing in their final game as Badgers, have a tremendous experience in the Rose Bowl. We will do everything within our power to make that happen.”

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157 Responses to “Updated: Arkansas hires… Bret Bielema”
  1. bender4700 says: Dec 4, 2012 3:24 PM

    Straight cash homie

    wow $$$$$$

  2. wvuandsteelers says: Dec 4, 2012 3:24 PM

    Wouldn’t have predicted that one in a million years. I think he’s a good coach, but not sure how quickly he will adjust to the SEC.

  3. brewcrewfan54 says: Dec 4, 2012 3:26 PM

    Not sad to hear this news as a Wisconsin fan.

  4. BrownsTown says: Dec 4, 2012 3:27 PM

    Hilarious…this is the guy that cried that Urban Meyer was bringing SEC practices to the B1G, and he didn’t mean that in a good way. Nice hypocrisy, crybaby.

  5. kidfootball says: Dec 4, 2012 3:29 PM

    Wish the guy luck. On Wisconsin!

  6. BrownsTown says: Dec 4, 2012 3:34 PM

    hahahahaha

    ““I can tell you this,” Bielema told Hayes. “We at the Big Ten don’t want to be like the SEC—in any way, shape or form.””

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/02/bielema-confronted-urban-over-recruiting-tactics/

  7. mvp43 says: Dec 4, 2012 3:35 PM

    From a Wisconsin fan………….Thank you Arkansas!

    Paul Chryst, we’d love to have you back.

  8. MasMacho says: Dec 4, 2012 3:37 PM

    Good riddance. No B1G will miss the whiny, overrated, arrogant, hypocritical UW coach that can’t stand competing in a league where he doesn’t get to make the rules.

    Enjoy your 2 seasons in Arkansas.. and your career in the MAC after you’re run out of town on a rail.

    Between this and the shafting the SEC got in the BCS, I can’t help but wonder if the dominance of the league is at an end.

  9. joker202012 says: Dec 4, 2012 3:38 PM

    I’d quit too if I had to face Urban Meyer and Ohio State every year.

  10. ducej11 says: Dec 4, 2012 3:40 PM

    Terrible hire. Brett will be in over his head recruiting against Miles, Saban, Spurier, Richt, and Sumlin. He has never coached in the south and has no ties to the south.

    I think Arkansas was left at the alter by all their other targets and had a knee jerk reaction.

    As a Vol fan, I enjoy the hire though.

  11. charism4 says: Dec 4, 2012 3:43 PM

    He plays for field goals while down 4 with 50 seconds remaining. He lost W three games this year alone due to poor clock management. He doesn’t get big recruits either.

  12. woebegong says: Dec 4, 2012 3:47 PM

    I am not too sure this is the best thing for Arkansas.
    I guess if you show them the money, most coaches forget about what they said previously, in a fit of jealousy. It sure sounds like that’s the case with this coach. I guess he doesn’t mind being part of the SEC, just doesn’t want to be l.ike them. Makes perfect sense to me.

  13. mute617 says: Dec 4, 2012 3:47 PM

    What would make anyone want to steal away Bielema? Thanks. On Wisconsin!

  14. packerbadger says: Dec 4, 2012 3:47 PM

    Good riddance! I don’t know who is more arrogant, him or Alvarez. Maybe he can lose the close big games there in Arkansas!

  15. muskyhunter2542 says: Dec 4, 2012 3:47 PM

    he was going to get fired if he lost the Championship game. Good riddance to this bum.

  16. scalpemseminoles says: Dec 4, 2012 3:49 PM

    Interesting move to say the least. Why would any coach want to be at Arkansas?

  17. thefiesty1 says: Dec 4, 2012 3:50 PM

    Wait, what? WOW! On Wisconsin!

  18. intergalacticbronco says: Dec 4, 2012 3:54 PM

    My wife is from Madison and she and her entire family are celebrating right now!

  19. alligatorsnapper says: Dec 4, 2012 3:55 PM

    Recruiting stocks in Arkansas just went up

    ………for LSU.

    (Long first tries to get his friend Les Miles to become the Razorback coach then rejects Miles’ advice and goes out of region to get a coach who has no connection to the southeast….hmm)

  20. kiopta1 says: Dec 4, 2012 4:04 PM

    This is like NCAA13 crazy coaching carousel of destiny.

  21. kiopta1 says: Dec 4, 2012 4:05 PM

    I am worried I will ND’s Diaco go next.

  22. shaggytoodle says: Dec 4, 2012 4:08 PM

    He would have been gone after another 5 loss season next year I think.

    So why not get while the gettings good.

  23. bodywork22 says: Dec 4, 2012 4:15 PM

    I can tell you that there are a lot more happy people in Madison right now than sad ones! Including me. Come home Paul Chryst.

  24. Deb says: Dec 4, 2012 4:16 PM

    In hindsight, I’ll bet some folks in Fayetteville wish they’d sent Long packing with Petrino. Bielema has zero SEC credentials, and from his comments about Meyer, he’s clueless about what it takes to succeed in a brutally competitive environment. The SEC West is gonna eat this guy alive. The real winners here are the Aggies. Looks like they’ll own their new rivalry with Razorbacks for the foreseeable future. More pelts to hang on Johnny Football’s saddle.

  25. mvp43 says: Dec 4, 2012 4:19 PM

    Unless you follow Bucky, its probably hard to imagine why so many people are happy with him leaving. On the surface it may be puzzling but in reality he was just not a good fit. Can’t call a play or run a clock……..he did not have command or the respect of his coaches is probably the number 1 factor. Plus I think he always looked at Madison as a stepping stone to Iowa……….. which I think Arkansas will be as well as soon as Kirk Ferentz is gone.

  26. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: Dec 4, 2012 4:25 PM

    thecrazyasianinseccountry
    Dec 4, 2012, 2:12 PM CST
    Congrats Arkansas on founding your new Head Coach … Brett Bielema

  27. metalhead65 says: Dec 4, 2012 4:27 PM

    I just became a fan of the sec! I can’t wait to watch his teams get steamrolled every week and hear him whine about it after. please sec coaches leave your starters in until the last second and score as many points as you can against arrogant prick!

  28. packerbadger says: Dec 4, 2012 4:28 PM

    Once Arkansas gets a taste of Bielema, they’ll have Bulimia!

  29. monsterright says: Dec 4, 2012 4:29 PM

    This is not a bad hire. He runs the type of system needed to be successful in the SEC. He’s probably an underrated recruiter (it should be easier to get kids to Fayetteville than Madison), and Les Miles has proven that with enough talent you can get away with poor clock management.

  30. badgerbuck says: Dec 4, 2012 4:42 PM

    Maybe Barry will come back to coach the rose bowl

  31. cabby782 says: Dec 4, 2012 4:43 PM

    Thank you Arkansas this guy has blown more opportunities than a $5 hooker ! What Arkansas sees in this guy is beyond me. Got by with great assistants like Christ Bostad and Doeren 5 losses with this team should have got him fired even with the Rose Bowl

  32. mikey77750 says: Dec 4, 2012 4:44 PM

    If Barry Alvarez does not allow Bielema to coach the Rose Bowl, don’t be surprised if Barry steps in to coach the Rose Bowl, and then go after a coach at the start of the New Year. Stranger things have happened.

  33. jimbo75025 says: Dec 4, 2012 4:56 PM

    I don’t understand this move-for either side? Arkansas is losing most of their talent/experience in the senior class/early NFL draftees and needs someone to start the program over in his own image? Most of the Arkansas holdovers will be Petrinos pass first ask questions later offense which does not mend with Bielemas philosphy? For Bielema, he does not know the South very well-if at all in terms of recruiting. This could be a train wreck for both parties.

  34. raysfan1 says: Dec 4, 2012 5:08 PM

    @MasMacho–
    What are talking about? How was the SEC shafted by the BCS? They got Alabama in the championship game, and Florida is in the Sugar Bowl. 2 teams is all the BCS rules allow, so they got their max.

  35. effjohntaylornorelation says: Dec 4, 2012 5:14 PM

    See ya later, fatty!

  36. pf1977 says: Dec 4, 2012 5:15 PM

    this just seems too weird to be true. i don’t think bielema will do well here. he complained about urban meyer and his SEC recruiting style when urban got hired at ohio state. what is he going to do when all the other coaches recruit the same way?

    i don’t think he has any ties to the south. also, he never really had stellar recruiting classes at wisconsin.

    this is just very strange. just don’t see it working out.

    so, does anyone think jeff long will be around at arkansas to make the next hire of a head football coach?

  37. packerbadger says: Dec 4, 2012 5:33 PM

    Being that he’s not the sharpest spoon in the drawer, from an intellectual standpoint; he’ll fit in the Semi Educated Conference much better than the Big 10!

  38. Deb says: Dec 4, 2012 5:39 PM

    @packerbadger …

    Poor, bitter lil thing. Not sure what kind of intellect God gave you originally, but obviously the beer fumes have melted enough brain cells to leave you a drooling mess of a cheeshead who passes time obsessing over the SEC on CFT. Bless your heart.

  39. jason1214 says: Dec 4, 2012 5:41 PM

    @packerbadger
    Thats ok…the SEC will just keep winning BCS title games while the Big 10 watches…

  40. elwaysmilehighdenver says: Dec 4, 2012 6:08 PM

    @Deb….
    Nice job! I think you forgot to mention Packerbadgers fixation with brats also contributed to his drunken blog posting!

  41. smashmouthtanker says: Dec 4, 2012 6:29 PM

    I think announcing this before the Rose Bowl game was pretty classless. I hope they do not let him coach in the bowl game and they blow out Stanford. But now Bret can go and always look confused on someone elses sideline.

  42. twelvesbelt says: Dec 4, 2012 6:30 PM

    Hit the bricks Brettly. Don’t forget your windbreaker. Got to get as far away as Urban as possible.

  43. madtownthrowdown says: Dec 4, 2012 6:37 PM

    We’ll never forget you Brent!! On Wisconsin! Please come back home Paul Chryst, Alvarez is a dick and should have just given you the jobs years ago. As Rose in the movie Titanic says “come back, come back”

  44. normtide says: Dec 4, 2012 6:53 PM

    Pbadger is mad, he just realized what the rest of us know, the 8th or 9th best sec job is way better then the UW job. That’s 3peat b1g champs UW.

    That said, Long got his got slammed in the door with this one. He had an 8 month head start, and this is what you hire? And yes, still laughing at all his earlier SEC comments.

  45. dkhhuey says: Dec 4, 2012 6:54 PM

    Bwwwaaa haaa haaa!!! Why Bret left:

    Urban stealing all of his recruits
    Urban kicking his ass every year
    Humiliating Rosebowl record
    He’s tired of sweating and it freezing up in Wisc.
    His all you can eat card at the Pizza Barn was revoked
    Didn’t get coach of the year again
    Was tired of washing Barry A’s car and mowing his grass

    Okay – I’ll stop now!

  46. bigjerm23 says: Dec 4, 2012 6:57 PM

    From some real smart Southerner I would assume: “He’s probably an underrated recruiter (it should be easier to get kids to Fayetteville than Madison)”

    Hahahahahahahahaha! The only thing I am disappointed about with all of this is that I am OFFENDED he left Wisconsin for a school like Arkansas, hahahah! Fayetteville over Madison! Classic Southern Cluelessness…

    Posted by a Bucky fan in LaLa Land (LA)

  47. Deb says: Dec 4, 2012 7:06 PM

    bigjerm23 …

    As we’ve already pointed out, Bielema isn’t a Southerner. So his decision to choose Fayetteville over Madison had nothing to do with “Southern” cluelessness, classic or otherwise. You’re not terribly bright, are you? But … we already knew that.

  48. prince5000 says: Dec 4, 2012 7:11 PM

    Wisconsin fan: hate much?? We have been to one BCS game – Bret has been to three straight. Seven seasons/Seven bowl games. We’ll take it. By the way, who is your next coach?

  49. kfox67 says: Dec 4, 2012 7:30 PM

    What a shitty hire! Thanks Long for setting the razorbacks back 15 years. This guy isnt the home run hire we were looking for. Hes just another garbage little 10 coach.

  50. padraighansen says: Dec 4, 2012 7:48 PM

    @ Normtide: “Pbadger is mad, he just realized what the rest of us know, the 8th or 9th best sec job is way better then the UW job. That’s 3peat b1g champs UW.”

    That is one of the most clueless comments I’ve seen in a while, and that’s saying something. Ignorance, Norm, is not a virtue.

    I hate to break this to you, but Wisconsin is a Top 15 job. Right now, it’s a better job every SEC school with the exceptions of Bama, Georgia, Florida, LSU, and maybe A & M & Tennessee, both of which I’d put on par with UW.

    In the Big 10, right now, only Ohio State & Michigan are better jobs than UW. Nebraska might be close.

    Look at the revenue, facilities, and resources. UW is a very good job, and will get a very good HC.

  51. prince5000 says: Dec 4, 2012 7:49 PM

    Hog fans hating too. I’m just curious too anyone in hog nation bashing this hire: who do you want?? Gruden? Chip Kelly? Chris Petersen? They aren’t coming. This guy is a great hire. Lets get behind him.

  52. teal379 says: Dec 4, 2012 7:56 PM

    He won’t do as bad as predicted but he also won’t do as well as he needs to.

    Derrell Bevell will on that short list of Wisco coaching interviews I’m guessing. Deep ties to the program, measure of NFL contacts and success (Russell Wilson in Sea and he can claim he took a 100 year old Favre to the NFCC) so that will help with recruiting some.

    I see Alvarez going for him over Chryst, not because of a deficiencies of Paul but because it’s just bad form and I don’t think Paul would just go one place for a year (Pitt) and then bail.

  53. normtide says: Dec 4, 2012 7:59 PM

    Yet, the UW coach left for ark. Wisconsin is not a top 15 job. That’s plain to see. Funny How usually, the one calling another ignorant is trying to cover his own foolishness

  54. jrw0906 says: Dec 4, 2012 8:02 PM

    Let Me paint u a scenario…nick saban offers u a scholarship….u say no….mark richt offers you a scholarship…u say no…steve Spurrier offers u a scholarship….u say no…kevin sumlin, will muschamp, James franklin, stoops offer u a schol. And u say no thanks im playin for Bret at Arkansas! NEVER HAPPENING! 3-9, 4-8 hello directional Michigan. Awful hire

  55. jason1214 says: Dec 4, 2012 8:07 PM

    To those unhappy Hogs fans on here…newsflash you were never going to get the “sexy” names and this is a great hire considering your horsebleep team who fell apart without Bobby P.

  56. dmvtransplant says: Dec 4, 2012 8:12 PM

    @ Deb

    Here’s a guy who couldn’t run the table last year with the following:

    1. OSU on a down year
    2. Russell Wilson
    3. A heisman quality running back

    Here’s a guy that couldn’t win 8 games, during the regular season with the following:
    1. OSU with a new coach
    2. PSU on a skeleton crew
    3. Montee Ball on the roster
    4. All-American QB
    5. Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan State on the schedule

  57. Deb says: Dec 4, 2012 8:15 PM

    @prince5000 …

    Although I’m not a Hog fan, like the rest of the SEC faithful commenting here, I want Arkansas to represent and hope my concerns about Bielema are unfounded. But I don’t appreciate his recent comments about the conference, which indicate that he’ll be ill-prepared to compete in our uber-competitive division. What Petrino did to a talented and well-positioned team was unforgivable, and I wish you guys the best. However, I don’t think Long made the best possible choice in Bielema. Sorry.

  58. Deb says: Dec 4, 2012 8:19 PM

    @dmvtransplant …

    Yep … you’ve just made my case. It doesn’t make me happy as an SEC fan, but I think Arkansas will regret this. Auburn made a better choice. Hope the Vols can say the same. Those two may be our bitterest rivals, but I like to keep things competitive :)

    Roll Tide!

  59. michaeljay17 says: Dec 4, 2012 8:21 PM

    i am ashamed to be a fan of the Badgers rights now after listening to all of you ungrateful s called fans. Is BB perfect, no. Did he go 0-2 in back to back Rose Bowls, yes. Do all of the couch coaches think they are smarter than him, yes. But the guy was incredibly successful, did everything we could possibly ask except win a national championship. three straight Rose Bowls – that will be his legacy – in our lifetime it may not happen again in the Big 10 and certainly not again at UW. be careful what you wish for, if programs such as USC, Oklahoma, Nebraksa, Florida State can have five year down cycles – it could easily happen to Bucky. lets hope this is not the case.

  60. prince5000 says: Dec 4, 2012 8:45 PM

    Michealjay17: feel the same way. Way too many hog fans bashing this hire. I feel we got a really good coach. And I hope Wisconsin does the same. Good luck!!

  61. houndofthebaskervols says: Dec 4, 2012 8:48 PM

    michaeljay17

    Excellent post, thank you. I see UW fans pissing all over Bielema and I just do not understand it. The news did come out of the blue, and I thought/think there are other candidates that are a better fit, but this is still a very good hire for the Hogs. {who BTW thought they were going to get Chris Petersen LMAO}

    Thanks for your 2 cents.

  62. jason1214 says: Dec 4, 2012 9:00 PM

    @Deb
    I think BB will struggle initially in SEC, but his style fits the conference. Second I think you are reading into his spat with Meyer too much(IE: BB runs the score up on teams, he’s no angel). Roll Tide!

  63. normtide says: Dec 4, 2012 9:00 PM

    Your right hound, Peterson was never coming to ark. Kinda reminds me another fan base saying, and continue to say, that they were landing Gruden. Hilarious

  64. mrlaloosh says: Dec 4, 2012 9:11 PM

    I hear ArKansas promised him his very own still. Couldn’t pass that up.

  65. wiltedspinach says: Dec 4, 2012 9:18 PM

    Seriously, I thought we were going to be stuck with this guy for decades to come. Whew, what a relief. You can have him Arkansas and good luck.

  66. bigjerm23 says: Dec 4, 2012 9:20 PM

    Hey DEB… (So many things I want to rattle off right now except I won’t cuz I would like this to be posted)

    First off I apologize for just pulling a quote from a previous post instead of posting the whole thing so it would make sense to smaller minded people like yourselves so here it is:

    monsterright says:
    Dec 4, 2012 4:29 PM
    This is not a bad hire. He runs the type of system needed to be successful in the SEC. He’s probably an underrated recruiter (it should be easier to get kids to Fayetteville than Madison), and Les Miles has proven that with enough talent you can get away with poor clock management.

    MY REPLY:
    bigjerm23 says:
    Dec 4, 2012 6:57 PM
    From some real smart Southerner I would assume: “He’s probably an underrated recruiter (it should be easier to get kids to Fayetteville than Madison)”

    Hahahahahahahahaha! The only thing I am disappointed about with all of this is that I am OFFENDED he left Wisconsin for a school like Arkansas, hahahah! Fayetteville over Madison! Classic Southern Cluelessness…

    Posted by a Bucky fan in LaLa Land (LA)

    YOUR INCREDIBLY LAME AND DUMB REPLY THAT PROBABLY IS DEFINITIVE OF WHERE YOU ARE FROM:

    Deb says:
    Dec 4, 2012 7:06 PM
    bigjerm23 …

    As we’ve already pointed out, Bielema isn’t a Southerner. So his decision to choose Fayetteville over Madison had nothing to do with “Southern” cluelessness, classic or otherwise. You’re not terribly bright, are you? But … we already knew that.

    ————————————
    U R SMART DEB!!! I D Sided to right it dis way so u can under stand….

    BTW I am very, very aware of the numerous spelling and grammatical errors of that last statement, as previously stated I am writing this so that it can process inside of your Celeron speed processor type brain of yours. BTW the Celeron was a chip used in 1998.

    So me not terribly bright? Hahahahahah!!! Trust me, I do well.

  67. normtide says: Dec 4, 2012 9:27 PM

    You think putting someone down on a blog message board proves your intelligence? Quite frankly, it does the opposite. The fact that someone’s post on said board makes you this angry only proves you have no life. I guess you are an online genius.

  68. kattykathy says: Dec 4, 2012 9:44 PM

    Deb says: Dec 4, 2012 4:16 PM

    In hindsight, I’ll bet some folks in Fayetteville wish they’d sent Long packing with Petrino. Bielema has zero SEC credentials, and from his comments about Meyer, he’s clueless about what it takes to succeed in a brutally competitive environment. The SEC West is gonna eat this guy alive. The real winners here are the Aggies. Looks like they’ll own their new rivalry with Razorbacks for the foreseeable future. More pelts to hang on Johnny Football’s saddle.
    *****************************************

    Yes, that “brutal” competitive environment” sure did eat Texas A&M alive didn’t it?

    Texas A&M 1- Bama 0

  69. lrg51 says: Dec 4, 2012 9:49 PM

    Big 10 football coach goes to the SEC… Good luck with that coach!!

  70. Deb says: Dec 4, 2012 9:58 PM

    @kattykathy …

    Oh look … you’ve stumbled into the college site. Still drunk after the Ravens’ loss to a third-string backup?

    I believe A&M’s victory over Alabama would underscore my comment about the brutal competition in that division. No one gets out unscathed. Sorry that flew over your head. But most things do. Yeah, we’ll be crying about that loss all the way to Miami.

  71. Deb says: Dec 4, 2012 10:14 PM

    @jason1214 …

    Yes, I’m putting a lot of emphasis on Bielema’s spat with Meyer. I’d love to be proved wrong about him. Have no ax to grind with the Razorbacks, and feel their players and fanbase took a hard hit this season. Hope they can regroup quickly.

  72. Deb says: Dec 4, 2012 10:16 PM

    bigjerm23 …

    Thank you for the lesson in quitting while you’re behind :)

  73. matckeeper says: Dec 4, 2012 10:27 PM

    From a former starting player who is a good friend of mine, ‘He is a slim ball, I’m not surprised in any way’.

    Guess that sums that up

  74. kattykathy says: Dec 4, 2012 10:31 PM

    Deb’s comments about all things Bama and Pittsburgh are further proof that you can teach a girl to read and write, but you can not teach class.

  75. Deb says: Dec 4, 2012 10:34 PM

    Yes, kattykathy. You are the essence of class. You showed up on a Steelers thread one day out of the blue and began lobbing sexist attacks at another woman without provocation. After being ignored by virtually everyone, you’ve now followed me to the college site. As I told you before, I’m straight, so please direct your obsession elsewhere. Thanks.

  76. jason1214 says: Dec 4, 2012 10:42 PM

    @kattykathy,
    Wow one Bama loss to A&M is all you have? really?
    Wake me, when A&M wins an SEC Title let alone the National Championship.

  77. hahapapa says: Dec 4, 2012 10:45 PM

    Thank You coach Pete for not accepting this job. Thank You Thank You.

  78. flyingscot4 says: Dec 4, 2012 10:55 PM

    Lots of whining by both sides. Lots of insults and unfounded criticisms. Let Bielema’s record speak for itself until he has an actual record in the SEC. I am a Badger fan living in Tennessee and I am also a Vol’s fan and have been for many years. I have two teams to cheer for and that won’t change.

    Bielema has made a number of ridiculous comments, however, we still don’t know how much of the “news” was “out of context” driven. So, give the guy a break until you have some incontestable facts and numbers. Look at it this way, the less that you say now may possibly mean the fewer words you you have to eat later. Right now, let his past record of wins and losses speak for itself.

  79. padraighansen says: Dec 4, 2012 11:14 PM

    Norm, sometimes you need actually leave your trailer park to realize there’s more to the world than SEC football and catfish noodling. Can’t help you there. Your ignorance is not overly shocking, given your allegiance.

  80. kfox67 says: Dec 4, 2012 11:18 PM

    Its funny how UW fans are glad to get rid of this jelly roll and arky fans (me) already hate him. To hear the talk show clowns hes going to be better than BP. Lol. Not going to happen. Ive read numerous posts that say “what did ark expect”, well, NOT HIM! I never really thought Gruden would come but to say Petersen, Patterson, Gundy or anyone else of their caliber wouldnt come is ignorance on your part. Bielimia or what ever the hell his name is wont last long at ark and Long wont either if he thinks this was a great hire. What a friggin joke. I wait through a shitty season of JLS destroying our program only to find out we just hired a 600lb walrus who probably wont do much better. Either way this will divide the fan base again just like H Nutt. 2 years max and hes fired!

  81. normtide says: Dec 5, 2012 12:33 AM

    Yes, the way you profile people is impressive. That is insight into your character. I suppose racism would come natural for you, given your ability to sum people up by sight out location

  82. v2the4 says: Dec 5, 2012 3:10 AM

    I just read all of the comments on this post, and they are way out there, from personal attacks on Bielema from both Whisky and Arky fans to posters personally attacking each other.. you should see what the Whisky fans are saying on the madison.com/sports about Bielema…blows my mind….

    if anyone remembers, Wisconsin was the big 10 equivilant of Vanderbilt or the combo of Ole Miss St before 1993….they were one of the worst programs in all of America…Barry Alvarez changed the culture up there, started winning…retired and moved up to AD and appointed Bielema as his head coach….Bielema has a .739 winning percentage as head coach at Whisky, ninth highest active winning percentage(only Miles, Saban and Richt are better in SEC)..with all of the great coaches in big 10 history, he has done something that only hall of famers Bo Schembechler at Michigan and Woody Hayes at Ohio State have done, taken his team to three straight Rose Bowls…

    I hear people saying he lost that last two Rose Bowls and was only 2-4 in Bowl games…Bo was 5-12 in Bowl games…Woody was 5-6

    I’ve read a number of post saying “he doesnt have any ties to the south?” um, what does that mean? Did Nick Saban have any “ties to the south” when LSU plucked him from Michigan St? He had previously coached in college and the nfl in the midwest only.

    perhaps that guy named Urban Meyer, another midwestern transplant who didnt have any “ties to the south” when he left UTAH of all places, to coach at Florida…..both of those guys, who didnt have ties to the south, won national championships in their jobs over great southern coaches who never left the region like Phil Fulmer, Houston Nutt, Tommie Tubberville, Steve Spurrier and Mark Richt, so you cant really buy into that he doesnt know the south stuff.

    Im sure he will have on his staff coaches who are familiar with the SEC and he will be able to recruit. Im sure he is a suprise pick to everyone, so we have to see what he will bring to table first..

    he wont have long…he will probably have to win at a minimum, 7 games in his first year, then his second year foward he will have to challenge the powers of the SEC west.

  83. bozosforall says: Dec 5, 2012 4:31 AM

    To see the morons from Wisconsin battling it out with the equally stupid Arkansas idiots here is beyond hilarious. A veritable “Battle of the Nitwit Duds” (with apologies to ABC).

  84. bozosforall says: Dec 5, 2012 4:37 AM

    @biggerm23

    Given that LA is populated by hordes of Southern transplants and their progeny, I’d be careful if were you about disparaging those from the South.

  85. packerbadger says: Dec 5, 2012 8:05 AM

    Deb says:Dec 4, 2012 5:39 PM

    @packerbadger …

    Poor, bitter lil thing. Not sure what kind of intellect God gave you originally, but obviously the beer fumes have melted enough brain cells to leave you a drooling mess of a cheeshead who passes time obsessing over the SEC on CFT. Bless your heart.
    —————————————————–
    Gave me the intellect of a Dr status. I can tell you’re from the south. There you say “bless your heart”. Where I’m from, we say F u. Beer is good for you. Ever notice how Badger and Packer fans are happy and are known as the best fans in sports?

  86. packerbadger says: Dec 5, 2012 8:14 AM

    jason1214 says:Dec 4, 2012 5:41 PM

    @packerbadger
    Thats ok…the SEC will just keep winning BCS title games while the Big 10 watches…
    ——————————————————
    And the SEC players that don’t go pro will be working for the graduates of the Big 10!

  87. normtide says: Dec 5, 2012 8:19 AM

    B1G grads have to move south just to find Jobs. Where they become immersed on out culture. They upper Midwest way of life is phasing out.

    Face it, the Arkansas job is way better then UW. More money, better recruiting, better facilities, better weather, prettier women. Don’t worry Wisconsin men and women will still be champs at brat eating and I’ve shoveling, so at least you got that.

  88. packerbadger says: Dec 5, 2012 9:50 AM

    normtide says:Dec 5, 2012 8:19 AM

    B1G grads have to move south just to find Jobs. Where they become immersed on out culture. They upper Midwest way of life is phasing out.

    Face it, the Arkansas job is way better then UW. More money, better recruiting, better facilities, better weather, prettier women. Don’t worry Wisconsin men and women will still be champs at brat eating and I’ve shoveling, so at least you got that.
    ———————————————————-

    The don’t call it a “tooth brush” where you’re from for nothing. Your family trees are stumps and your “graduates” graduate with mostly 100 level courses….football 101, African studies 101, showing up to class on time 101, smiling 101, etc.

  89. normtide says: Dec 5, 2012 9:57 AM

    Wouldn’t smile 101 and lack of toothbrushes contradict each other? Seriously, if that’s what you got left, then my point must have hit home. What’s next? My dad can beat up your dad? Your not helping your “we are smarter” argument. You do rock at 1950′s put downs though. Really easy to see why people are leaving your state in droves.

  90. blitz4848 says: Dec 5, 2012 10:01 AM

    S = Success

    E = Equals

    C = CHAMPIONSHIPS

  91. packerbadger says: Dec 5, 2012 10:05 AM

    Semi/Slightly/Somewhat Educated Conference.

  92. packerbadger says: Dec 5, 2012 10:08 AM

    What’s next? My dad can beat up your dad?
    ——————————————————-
    Go for it, my dad is 6’7″ 325 lb farm boy with a size 17 ring. Come on up, we’ll show you southern boys and girls what a work ethic is.

  93. normtide says: Dec 5, 2012 10:13 AM

    Guess what, everyone is 7 feet tall, 290 lbs and fit, on the internet. Oh, I bet your all rich, good looking, and hung like a horse. E-thugs are so funny. If your all so strong, why does your team always fall short? Now, if you said your wife was 290, I would believe that. That sounds like a Wisconsin woman.

  94. jason1214 says: Dec 5, 2012 11:13 AM

    @packerbadger
    Hope Enterprise Rent A Car has enough jobs for all the Big10 athletes then.

  95. earz4lsu says: Dec 5, 2012 11:50 AM

    Here’s my take on this hiring.

    1. Why not go to the SEC even if it is Arkansas. When was the last time the big 10/12 whatever was able to get a team into the national title game with one loss? For that matter when was the last time the conference up north was relevant in the NC talk after halloween? He knows going in that if he losses one game he still has a shot at the title game if he runs the table and wins the SEC CG.

    2. His style will work in the SEC. How many times do I have to listen to people on this board, complain they don’t throw the ball in the SEC. Its all run, run, run. What does UW or really any team in the northern conference do? Run.

    3. Look at the type of Offensive linemen he brings in. Huge cornfed boys that like to maul defenses.

    The problem BB will have is well the SEC west.

    Bama can walk in and get any recruit he wants.

    LSU is one of the most fertile high school football states in the nation and is next to Texas.

    Texas AM is currently the top dog in the state of Texas and on the way up, with a potential Heisman winner

    Arkansas had to do something to gin up interest in the school with both the recruits and donors. What better way than to bring in a guy who has gone to 3 straight Rose Bowls?

  96. Deb says: Dec 5, 2012 12:26 PM

    packerbadger …

    What I see is a guy who comes on every CFT thread concerning the SEC to rant about the low intellects of an entire region of people he doesn’t know. That, dear, is called bigotry. And bigotry is a sign of ignorance, hostility, and hatred. Packer and Badger fans are happy-go-lucky people? How happy can you be with so much venom in your heart? You’re a medical doctor? Really? But you’re not intelligent enough to know region of origin has nothing to do with IQ? You’re not intelligent enough to know brilliant doctors, surgeons, and medical researchers have been educated at SEC universities? That’s a little difficult to believe.

    It’s a football blog. I understand football smack. But I’ve never understood why fans of Big 10 teams need to denigrate the intelligence and character of people from an entire region of the country to make themselves feel better about how their teams perform on a football field. Seems to me the intellectual deficiency is yours.

  97. jason1214 says: Dec 5, 2012 12:42 PM

    @Deb
    Its simple…Big 10 fans (for the most part anyway) are bitter because their very best teams get worked by the SEC in the big games.

  98. flyingscot4 says: Dec 5, 2012 1:33 PM

    Good comment, earz4lsu. Aside from most of the childish comments from what must be the “Peanut Gallery,” you make sense. But one thing that most of the comments don’t take into consideration is that in the minds of most 4 star and 5 star recruits, the goal is not college, but the NFL. Arkansas, in it’s current state, can offer something that other schools can’t – playing time, and almost immediately. Most recruits want to play now, not when they are juniors. They want exposure, and the ability to offer that is of extreme importance. Bama, LSU, and the highly successful programs around the country, not just the SEC, cannot offer that except in rare cases.

    BB has faced recruiting challenges in the Big 10 and has done quite well. He has had success taking many young men who were recruited by OSU, Penn State, Michigan, and others, not only in the Big 10 but from across the nation.

    While past success does not automatically translate to future success, it is and has been a pretty good indicator. Whether BB succeeds or not is up to him, not us.

    I have never been a BB fan. I have always felt that he should have kept his mouth shut and coached rather than talked. Hopefully, for the sake of the SEC and Arkansas, he will do exactly that. Success or lack of it will be determined on the football field.

  99. packerbadger says: Dec 5, 2012 2:20 PM

    Deb says:Dec 5, 2012 12:26 PM

    packerbadger …

    What I see is a guy who comes on every CFT thread concerning the SEC to rant about the low intellects of an entire region of people he doesn’t know. That, dear, is called bigotry. And bigotry is a sign of ignorance, hostility, and hatred. Packer and Badger fans are happy-go-lucky people? How happy can you be with so much venom in your heart? You’re a medical doctor? Really? But you’re not intelligent enough to know region of origin has nothing to do with IQ? You’re not intelligent enough to know brilliant doctors, surgeons, and medical researchers have been educated at SEC universities? That’s a little difficult to believe.
    ——————————————————
    I guess you’d know bigotry pretty well living in the south and all. I never said I was a medical dr…did I? The “brilliant” doctors of which you speak down there aren’t from there. They’re probably from a Big 10, ACC, IVY or PAC 10 school. You get your underwear in a bundle pretty easy….lighten up. I don’t need to push your buttons, just put a quarter in you and stand back and watch. Btw, I am a very happy go lucky person….thats because I eat lots of brats and drink lots of beer. Maybe you should try both.

  100. Deb says: Dec 5, 2012 2:23 PM

    @flyingscot4 …

    Actually, Saban has been playing his second- and third-stringers all year. He rotates players quite a bit, particularly when Bama is ahead. That’s one reason his guys have a strong reputation among NFL scouts as being pro-ready. I expect Miles takes a similar approach. Giving the younger kids playing time whenever possible is how they’re able to stay competitive year-in and year-out. This year’s Bama defense is extremely young to be competing for a title.

    As I’ve said before, I was put off by Bielema’s comments regarding the SEC and hope he’ll turn out to be a tremendous asset for Arkansas.

  101. packerbadger says: Dec 5, 2012 2:24 PM

    Btw deb and jason, more people seem to agree with my posts than yours. I win, you lose. Btw, hows them SEC hockey teams doing?

  102. Deb says: Dec 5, 2012 2:35 PM

    @packerbadger …

    No, you never said you were a medical doctor, but the term “Dr.” usually is applied by others to medical doctors … though it’s often self-applied by professional students. Actually, I just had my 29th surgery, so I’m quite familiar with my surgeons’ credentials and the schools they attended. I know bigotry well from reading your posts–they’re the gifts that keep on giving.

    That you drink a lot of beer is evident but thanks for sharing.

  103. normtide says: Dec 5, 2012 2:38 PM

    How’s those NHL hockey teams doing? Btw, university of Alabama in Huntsville won a hockey national title before. You better hope the Sec doesn’t start playing hockey, we would run that too after a few years. The south is the place to be, evident by the number of yankees down here now.

  104. Deb says: Dec 5, 2012 2:38 PM

    @packerbadger …

    At its peak, this blog attracts up to 8 million unique readers in a month. When you get 8 million thumbs up, we’ll celebrate your overwhelming popularity among the readers.

  105. packerbadger says: Dec 5, 2012 3:09 PM

    Wisconsin’s Ron Dayne has the NCAA record for rushing yards. Monte Ball has the most rushing touchdowns. Alabama is lucky as hell to be in the championship game getting outplayed by Georgia. Other than Alabama having a good football team, I really can’t think of anything that state has to offer. Oh, btw, my Wisconsin based Green Bay Packers are well on their way to another Super Bowl with a Pac 10 Qb. How’s Alabama’s pro team doing? Btw, I live in the south….can’t wait to get back to civilization.

  106. packerbadger says: Dec 5, 2012 3:29 PM

    MD, DDS, DMD, DVM, DC, DO, PhD, EDD, etc…..lots of dr’s. Maybe you should come up north where the best hospitals are and you won’t have to have as many procedures. Hmmmm…..Harvard, Johns Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic, Mayo Clinic, or Alabama?

  107. jason1214 says: Dec 5, 2012 3:49 PM

    @packerbadger
    Ppl agreeing with you doesnt make you right and anyone else wrong.
    I have a life, I’m not concerned about ppl not caring for my opinion.

  108. hrudey says: Dec 5, 2012 3:58 PM

    Whoa, I must have veered onto the offramp for RustBeltRegionTalk. Where’d CFT go?

    I’m just waiting now for some Englishmen or Indians (you know, the ones actually from India) to come on and rail about how our whole country sucks at cricket. If there’s one thing about a dong-waving contest on the internet, it’s never closed to new competitors.

  109. normtide says: Dec 5, 2012 4:06 PM

    The fact that pbadger lives in the south just proves my point, 100%. The south is where its at. Badger approved.

  110. packerbadger says: Dec 5, 2012 4:29 PM

    Back to the topic of this thread. Bottom line is, is that the SEC got Bilema and the Big 10 got rid of him. We win, you lose!

  111. normtide says: Dec 5, 2012 5:02 PM

    The B1G won, now there is nothing to slow down Urban’s domination of your league. WINNING!

  112. Deb says: Dec 5, 2012 5:06 PM

    packerbadger …

    Even a troll like you deserves a little friendly advice. When you’re going under the knife, you want the surgeon who’s most skilled at doing surgery, not the one with the most prestigious diploma. The most important questions to ask involve how many times the doctor has performed the procedure and the success rate–not GPA.

    I had a friend who was terrified of having surgery, so when it came time for a relatively simple operation, she shied away from her longtime Central Florida doctor and followed her brother’s advice to travel to Johns Hopkins. There the “world-class” surgeon he recommended patted her hand, whispered reassuring words, then turned her over to a student who sewed her bladder closed. She had endless complications that had to be attended by an associated surgeon five hours away in Jacksonville because that was the closest doctor Mr. World-Class had in his Rolodex.

    Three battles with aggressive cancer and many other life-threatening crises but I’m still here, pal. When your life is on the line, common sense trumps fancy names on a diploma. So does prayer.

  113. normtide says: Dec 5, 2012 5:12 PM

    Oh, and now you can stop going to those pesky rose bowls. Btw, you do know the rose bowl was created to show northerners how shitty their weather is, right. It is beyond ironic that the b1g is infatuated with rose. It was started as a slap in your face.

  114. arkansas4life says: Dec 6, 2012 12:34 AM

    His wife is Smokin hot!! I think he will fit in perfect!

  115. packerbadger says: Dec 6, 2012 8:11 AM

    normtide says:Dec 5, 2012 5:12 PM

    Oh, and now you can stop going to those pesky rose bowls. Btw, you do know the rose bowl was created to show northerners how shitty their weather is, right. It is beyond ironic that the b1g is infatuated with rose. It was started as a slap in your face.
    ———————————————————-

    LOL! I guess Hurricane Katrina was a nice summer shower eh? Funny how you southern boys sieze up when you come to play on the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field in Titletown. You’re still mad from us northerners kicking you azz 147 yrs ago. Btw, I moved south for a short while to see the land that we conquered.

  116. packerbadger says: Dec 6, 2012 8:13 AM

    @Deb

    “So does prayer.”

    Prayer has been PROVEN to have no effect on health outcomes. Have a bowel movement; you’ll feel better and it will have the same effect. Sorry to hear about your condition. I do wish you well.

  117. normtide says: Dec 6, 2012 8:35 AM

    LOL, most of those players for the packers come from the south. At least the good ones. Talk the truth, you came south and loved it. Its ok, we got jobs, you can stay. The funny part is, your children will be raised on the south, and be southern. You can tell then about the good old days, when northern football was relevant. Ofc, they will never believe it

  118. packerbadger says: Dec 6, 2012 8:50 AM

    Aaron Rodgers California
    Charles Woodson Michigan
    Clay Matthews USC
    Brian Bulaga Iowa
    Greg Jennings Western Michigan
    Ryan Grant Notre Dame
    James Starks Buffalo
    Donald Driver Alcorn State (Ohio)
    T.J. Lang Eastern Michigan
    Jerel Worthy Michigan State
    B.J. Raji Boston College
    A.J. Hawk Ohio State
    Desmond Bishop California
    Nick Perry USC
    Tom Crabtree Miami of Ohio
    Etc…….

    Others:
    J.J. Watt Wisconsin
    Russell Wilson Wisconsin

    Yeah, all we did is go 15-1 last yr and won the Super Bowl the yr before with all those inadequate northern players.

    Do you ever engage brain/facts before your mouth/fingers? No, I didn’t think so. I win…again!

  119. normtide says: Dec 6, 2012 8:59 AM

    Dude, your from Wisconsin, no one will claimed you won. Hell, even you couldn’t stand it there, and you were born there. Can’t blame BB from wanting out. He found more money, better recruits, prettier women, better weather, and his kids can find jobs here. Actually your ex coach won this time. He took the B1G title and brought it south.

  120. normtide says: Dec 6, 2012 9:05 AM

    Uw football is known for the song they play between quarters, nothing else. Jump around indeed. Really, that’s your claim to fame? Damn, y’all out of date.

  121. packerbadger says: Dec 6, 2012 9:46 AM

    @normtide:
    “Dude, your from Wisconsin, no one will claimed you won.”

    Yes, you are definitely edjamacated in the south. Res Ipsa Loquitor

  122. packerbadger says: Dec 6, 2012 9:48 AM

    Norm, you are a 486 trying to operate in a Pentium IV world. Good luck to you.

  123. normtide says: Dec 6, 2012 10:02 AM

    That’s the nicest thing you ever said to me. See, I’m growing on you.

  124. Deb says: Dec 6, 2012 1:38 PM

    packerbadger ….

    Actually, studies have shown that prayer does have a positive effect on healing for those who believe. But it’s not something to argue about. Either you have faith or you don’t. I’m not one to push mine on anyone else.

    About that list of players, however …

    Yeah, it’s nice that your Packers squeaked out a lone Super Bowl win with Aaron Rodgers–though I personally thought Matthews should have been the MVP of that game given the number of turnovers he forced. But the Hall of Famer who took the Packers to an unmatched five consecutive championships, including the first two Super Bowls, was Bart Starr. And he played for Alabama.

    That Southern Mississippi boy you guys love to forget was worth 12 of anything you’ve got now, too.

  125. packerbadger says: Dec 6, 2012 2:20 PM

    @deb:
    “Actually, studies have shown that prayer does have a positive effect on healing for those who believe. ”
    ———————————————————
    Its the placebo effect, not the frigging prayer. Research shows that prayer has NO effect…period.

    How many lone Super Bowls has Alabama squeaked out? Green Bay has more NFL titles than any other football team. Star left Alabama for Wisconsin. Pretty much all of Star’s records have been broken and he was fired from being head coach of the Packers. Starr came within a hair of never playing pro football at all. Give credit to Vince Lombardi. Brett Favre would have been my all time favorite southern boy, but he kept hitting on girls that looked like his sister and cousins.

  126. Deb says: Dec 6, 2012 4:08 PM

    pbader, the placebo effect works because people believe it will work. It’s a faith thing. Then again, we have no scientific way to determine whether it works because people believe or because a higher power is answering the prayer, do we? All we know is that it works … which is why studies do show prayer is effective in speeding healing. You’re spouting BS when you say that research shows prayer has no effect.

    As I said, I don’t push my beliefs on others. Tolerance–it’s a beautiful thing. I’m surprised you didn’t learn that in your doctoral program.

    I’m also surprised you don’t know that as an NCAA team, Alabama is not eligible to play for Super Bowls. But the Tide has earned 14 championships since the 1920s … which trumps the number of titles Green Bay has. Starr left college for the pro team that drafted him. And I give all the credit in the world to Vince Lombardi for being the greatest NFL coach of all time–and a great judge of talent. But he wasn’t on the field. How sad for you that you can’t appreciate the historic leaders of your own team.

    As for Brett Favre … the personal sexual pecadilloes of adults who play football and run for political office don’t concern me–unless, like Petrino, they pay for them out of the company till. However, if you think Jenn Sterger looks as though she could be related to Favre, I hope you don’t drive without serious vision intervention. The guy resurrected your team from nearly three decades of obscurity and played with the heart and guts of a guy from the 40s. He was a joy to watch no matter what team you support. But as with Starr, you want to brag about the trophies without appreciating the guys who earned them. Not sure what kind of fan that makes you … because I’m not that kind of fan.

  127. flyingscot4 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:48 PM

    Number of things, Deb. First, until recently I lived most of my life in Wisconsin and am a Packer, Badger, Tennessee fan. I think that I am pretty knowledgeable on those subjects. I owned Packer season tickets from 1958 – 1991 and have watched the “jump around” for a long time. “Jump Around” to the Badgers is like “Rocky Top” to the Vols. It’s ridiculed by many, but is an emotional lift to Badger fans and players. I have been a Tennessee fan because of Phil Fullmer and his impact on the University as a whole (and I liked Peyton Manning and his father before him too.)

    Bart Starr played in an era that is not comparable to today’s pro football. Back then, if a quarterback threw more than 15 passes in a game, it was to catch-up in scoring. Favre is one of my favorite inspirational players of all time (like Pat Summit) and I fervently hope that the playing through pain and hits as he did does not impact his health in later years. Great players and coaches lead by example.

    We do know that faith, not prayer as such, has the power to heal. It produces a chemical reaction and a chemical imbalance in the brain which seems to produce some “super” antibodies for combating the illness or injury. Call it faith, prayer, or just the will to live or overcome, we don’t know. That chemical imbalance apparently leaves the body when it is no longer needed. We do know that many, many physicians and medical researchers are very spiritual.

    Having watched the game of football for many years, I don’t buy into “regional” differences.” Players that go to the NFL and are considered sure-fire successes often flop. Same is true between high school and college. Any player that goes to a system that his brain finds totally foreign looses much of his God-given ability only because of the system. It is the coach’s job to put a player where he can use his strengths – as in Bill Belichick, who seldom drafts a player who will find difficulty in adapting to the Patriot system. Belichick wins because of the player comfortability in his system. Bret Favre was a winner in a system designed for his strengths by Mike Holmgren, who understood that he had a diamond in the rough.

    I agree that Vince Lombardi was the greatest coach of his era. Whether he was the greatest of all time is debatable. He was not known for his adaptability or liking change. (But oh what a coach, and oh what a time it was!)

  128. packerbadger says: Dec 6, 2012 6:07 PM

    @deb
    You said:
    “You’re spouting BS when you say that research shows prayer has no effect.”
    ———————————————————-
    Maybe I should clarify. People praying for other people has been proven to have no effect when the person being prayed for doesn’t know it.

    I also sense you have no sense of humor. You must be an accountant or chemist. Yes, Star was a good qb, but wouldn’t even be a back-up today; and sucked as a coach. Favre was my all time favorite before going south; and Reggie White was more responsible for resurecting the Pack.

    I’m a happy go lucky fan. Packers rated the best pro sports franchise in all of sports; and a lot of that has to do with their happy fans drinking beer and eating brats at Lambeau. You are a bump on a log. Paterno was a legend until it was revealed he allowed more little boys to raped on Penn States campus which kind of wipes out the previous sixty yrs of accomplishments. Football to me is something to talk smack about, laugh and have a good time. For you its all serious and seems to consume your life.

  129. Deb says: Dec 6, 2012 6:38 PM

    @flyingscot4 …

    Not quite sure what all that was about. I’m just talking smack with the guy who keeps ragging the SEC.

    @packerbadgers …

    Honey, I write with tongue firmly in cheek most of the time. Smack to you is just blathering nonsense. I use a little more finesse. If that confuses you … good :)

  130. packerbadger says: Dec 7, 2012 8:14 AM

    Somewhat Educated Conference is what it is. Everyone knows the academics there are at the bottom of the barrel; thus they can keep good, illiterate athletes in school. The FACTS show that the SEC is the least educated conference.Thats the point I I’ve been making. Its a lot easier to be good at athletics when you don’t have to go to school or actually take time out of your day to study. Obviously 100% of the student athletes don’t fall into that category; but your conference sure has a helluva lot more of them than the others. You jumped all over my sh!t for stating Mr. Honey Badger was a friggen idot loser who’s had more chances and potential and blew it. Guess what? I was right…again! I went to school and worked out with these guys at their level. I know them and how they operate.

    For someone who says that they don’t judge, you sure judge a lot!! Typical of a sanctimonious hypocrite. I bet you’re in church thumping your bible every Sunday too. I have the finesse of a freight train. If that runs over you…good! :)

  131. normtide says: Dec 7, 2012 10:10 AM

    Man, the sec is in that dude’s head, bad. It’s funny when our league ruins a persons life, and he don’t even play ball. Then, an sec team hires away his coach. This guy needs to be on suicide watch, someone take his belt and shoelaces. Seriously, you need a hobby, cause this football thing is killing you.

  132. Deb says: Dec 7, 2012 3:21 PM

    @normtide …

    Hard to decide whether to laugh or shake your head at these guys. They have no idea what the SEC’s academic rankings are. Half our schools rank higher than half the Big 10 schools. But it makes them feel better about their football irrelevance to troll our threads and tell us how stupid Southerners are. Then when we give it back to them, they go off half-cocked and start ranting like lunatics. Yeah, Tyrann Mathieu … one poor kid who grew up in squalor has had trouble adjusting. Clearly he is the posterchild for all the SEC … just as Jerry Sandusky is the posterchild for all the Big 10. Right.

    I think pbadger needs some Xanax.

  133. normtide says: Dec 7, 2012 4:00 PM

    I love it, cause us being on top eats them alive. And when they bring up academics (as if they are in the ivy league), I know they have surrendered on the football side. All this is just pb saying he knows we own him on the field. It is his capitulation.

  134. flyingscot4 says: Dec 7, 2012 4:21 PM

    I know that this is a blog and involves a lot of mouthing off, but it would be a wonderful change of pace to read something intelligent.

    A good standard of quality of education in a given conference or individual school is to determine the number and total amount of research grants given to the schools or school. That should end the argument. Or not.

  135. Deb says: Dec 7, 2012 10:44 PM

    @flyingscot4 …

    I don’t know when you tripped in, dear, but both normtide and I have been making intelligent, football-based comments on this blog for years. However, we do reserve the right to talk back to fools who come on for the sole purpose of slamming our intellect, our history, our religion, and anything else they can think of to damn us as a collective simply because SEC football teams perform well on the field. That, my friend, is what I consider “mouthing off.”

    The graduation rate of players on the football team does not determine the total academic performance of a university much less the total amount of research grants given to a school … which is why constantly dragging academics into these football discussions, such as the hiring of Bret Bielema, is idiotic. This should never have been an argument in the first place. And I’m sure if the Big 10 had won the last six national titles, it wouldn’t have been. But I suspect that’s a little too much intelligence for you.

  136. hodag54501 says: Dec 8, 2012 7:11 PM

    Razorback fans:
    When Bielema bolted, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel took a poll: Will you miss BB?
    Two-thirds said “no”. This is a guy that went(and lost) to the Rose Bowl and three Big 10(or Big 14 or Little 14, whatever you want to call it) titles.
    You will have an exciting team that rarely can win the big games.

    Heartbreak will become your friend.

    To give you a bit of the integrity of BB, he never so much as informed Barry Alvazez he was even thinking of leaving. He just walked in and said he was hired at Arkansas. It’s a bit like your spouse walking in and saying she’s leaving you to marry your brother. Alvarez picked him out from a group of other candidates and stuck by him when it was obvious he wasn’t ready to be a head coach. That’s the thanks you get from BB.

    We won many games with BB there, but do you get the sense that most Wisconsin fans think another coach would be preferable?

  137. packerbadger says: Dec 10, 2012 12:06 PM

    Grants are a pretty good indication of how well a school is academically Deb. If you do have any smart ones in Alabama, they’re either foreign kids or kids from out of state. Your state is either 49th or 50th in high school academics. Did you actually go to college? If you did, did you compete in NCAA Divison I athletics? I did both. Mr. Hodag is right, Bielema has zero credibility. Maybe he’ll find a hot co-ed and buy a motorcycle too….

    “It’s a bit like your spouse walking in and saying she’s leaving you to marry your brother. ”
    They’re used to that down south. If a couple is married in Alabama and gets a divorce in Arkansas…..are they still brother and sister?

    Deb said:
    constantly dragging academics into these football discussions, such as the hiring of Bret Bielema, is idiotic. This should never have been an argument in the first place. And I’m sure if the Big 10 had won the last six national titles, it wouldn’t have been. ”

    Um, they’re called “Student Athletes”. Academics is part of being a student athlete.

  138. woebegong says: Dec 10, 2012 12:15 PM

    Having lived in Wisconsin and my late wife being from there, I can say you truly are one of the rudest people I have seen from there and I spent 6 years in Madison, the Berkley of the Midwest. I am glad I got to meet some of the nice folks from there, and din’t form an opinion about everybody, based on comments and arrogance like yours to base my dislikes and likes of a person from a region.

  139. normtide says: Dec 10, 2012 12:39 PM

    The sec us crushing that dude’s entire life. It would be sad, if it wasn’t so funny. He acts like Wisconsin is Paris. I have dealt with people from Wisconsin, and believe me, they are not so sophisticated. From the stories about what they can do with those milking machines, to how they call people from Illinois “fibs”, yet they don’t know why. I also hear the stories how all their good jobs are in the south now, snap on plant is just up the road from here. Add that to the fact that the South owns college ball now, and his life is miserable. All he had left is racist comments. Plus, last incest story I saw was on Connecticut. In Wisconsin, no one wants their women.

  140. packerbadger says: Dec 10, 2012 3:38 PM

    woebegone….be gone already. Frigging Caliwhiner. I’m guessing you lived on the near east side where all whiney crunchers live.

  141. packerbadger says: Dec 10, 2012 3:46 PM

    norm, you’re an idot. The jobs move south because of “right to work” states and you can get away with paying people $8/hr. FIBS applys to Bears fans and jerks from Chicago. You are grasping at straws and really don’t have anything of intellectual capacity to offer. You somehow became obsessed with me and nothing or anybody is crushing my life. I was/am talking about academics and college sports….something you seem to try to spin away from because you know I’m right and you’re wrong….again! Enlighten me on where I made racist comments. Since you’re in the south, you should be familiar with that racism thing. Oh, my pro football team is doing just fine and is on their way to another Super Bowl tyvm! I’m feeling pretty good about the Badgers beating Stanford as well. Other than college football, Alabama is a kraphole and offers very little to this country. In fact, your state takes in more money from the govt than it gives in. How about taking a look at Wisconsin SAT/ACT scores and comparing them to the SEC schools….I’ll wait right here.

  142. woebegong says: Dec 10, 2012 3:57 PM

    Actually, I lived in a very nice sub division that located on the East side of Madison. You my friend , aren’t anything but a whiner and complainer that thinks you are too intelligent to speak to the average folks, that make up the majority of residents outside of Madison.
    Just so you know, I have a degree in physics, so I am sorry to say, but you are not exclusive in the smarts department, but unlike you, I actually used my degree, but never felt the reason to feel I was so superior as to look down on other people. How long did you serve in the military? What job do you do or have you done that contributes to humanity? I would say the answer to the above questions is zero.
    Be gone idiot. You are one of the few poor souls that value your opinion, in Wisconsin or any place else. Small people seek to bring others down to their level and I have no reason to sink to yours.

  143. normtide says: Dec 10, 2012 4:55 PM

    So, you moved to the south for an $8/hour job? Or did the milking machine break up with you? Your post do nothing to support your SAT claims. Oh, and didn’t the packers look good last year, but failed to win a playoff game?

    Here is all you need to know about Wisconsin: your coach passed on coaching in the rose bowl, to move to NW Arkansas. Not because you wanted him gone, before him you had one 11 win session. One. Just look how it chapped you, when he left.

  144. packerbadger says: Dec 10, 2012 6:36 PM

    How about our states best football team play your states best football team? Alvarez will coach the Rose Bowl….which means it will be better coached nimrod. So, other than college (not pro) football, what does Alabama have to offer? LOL! You guys do have nicely polluted beaches. You don’t need sunscreen, just go swimming and you’ll get covered in oil! Btw, milk and cheese are good for you! Inbreeding isn’t.

  145. packerbadger says: Dec 10, 2012 6:43 PM

    woebegone….. I could see you in Sterling hall. You have no idea about me you pencil neck. I use my degrees as well and I am in fact in the business of helping others. I’m tired of whiney azzes like you. Its idiots like you need to get their feeling hurt again; no wonder our society is soft. So, if you don’t want to “sink to my level”, then why are you talking to me then? I told you a while back to leave, but you insist on engaging me. Btw, what does serving in the military have to do with any of this?

  146. normtide says: Dec 10, 2012 6:57 PM

    Your coach skipped coaching the rose bowl and moved to NW Arkansas just to get out of the state of Wisconsin. And the truth is, no ones blames him.

  147. Deb says: Dec 10, 2012 9:28 PM

    packerbadger …

    Are you still here? Good grief.

    My, you have poor reading-comprehension skills for someone with a doctoral degree. I didn’t say research grants aren’t an indicator of a school’s academic standing. I said the number of research grants awarded to an institution isn’t determined by the graduation rate of its football team.

    I don’t judge people by their region of origin, the degrees they claim, or the football teams they support–and certainly not by the graduation rates of the football teams they support. I base my opinions on their behavior. Yours speaks volumes.

  148. woebegong says: Dec 11, 2012 3:28 AM

    Seriously, I pity you. You have to lie about who you are, what you do, and even try to impress people with your sorry life. The only way you could truly help out any group of people with your sour outlook on life and the way you act, is with your demise. You are right though, I will leave this blog for now, since the subject it was about was forgotten a long time ago, with an idiot like you posting on it. You are far from representing the good folks of your state, and your attitude I am sure makes people not even want to know you.

  149. angelheartsbuckeyes says: Dec 11, 2012 12:15 PM

    As a Buckeye fan I am sad to see ole BB go. We had a lot of fun at his expense and it was a pleasure beating him more often than not.

    I personally think he is going to get crushed in the SEC — not because it is so much better but because he is a mediocre coach.

    I live in the South now and have since 1998. I have had this whole conference superiority conversation a few times. A few things; cfb is cyclical. The SEC is up right now — no doubt. However, I would really like it if SEC fans (amother phenomenia that boggles the mind–I cheer for my TEAM not my region, but whatever) could comprehend the simple fact that they DO NOT DOMINATE THE B1G.

    Not every school in the B1G is tOSU. The heads up record between the B1G and the SEC shows a slight lead — nothing that would indicate complete domination.

  150. packerbadger says: Dec 11, 2012 4:34 PM

    To normtide: Lets talk about some of the SEC coaches…..
    1. Bobby Petrino Arkansas
    2. Hal Mumme Kentucky
    3. Mike Price Alabama
    4. Dennis Franchione Texas A&M
    Good to see you live in a glass house and yet throw stones.

    To Deb:
    Thanks for not judging me you sanctimonious hypocrite. Theres lots of those down here. I bet you’re one of those “hypochristians”.

    To woebegone:
    Be gone already. Ask Santa for a spine because you obviously don’t have one.

    To angleheartbuckey:
    As much as I like to kick OSU’s azz, I still root for them and the other Big 10 teams in bowl games and games against other conferences. OSU is a good school. All Big 10 schools are good schools. The SEC has some good athletic teams; but when I lived up north, we joked about the “education” system they have compared to the other conferences. These conversations seem to come up more down here; but its more ACC. People in the SEC seem to be a bit hypersensitive when you bring up the academics…. seems SEC has inferiority complex. Buts its just like the Civil War; up north we never talked about it after my freshman yr in college, but they’re still fighting it down here.

  151. woebegong says: Dec 11, 2012 6:01 PM

    You talk awful big behind a computer screen, but I can assure you, even at 63 years old, you would not have the guts to say anything to my face, like you think you have the right to say on a computer. Idiots like you, are a dime a dozen in the world, but you shouldn’t try so hard to lead the way.
    You don’t even carry your own way in life. The reason you are the idiot you are is because you are so disappointed in your own inadequate life.
    I really don’t have anymore time to waste answer such a person that I really feel kind of pity for. Sorry your life is such a disappointment to you, but I am glad I don’t live like you do.

  152. Deb says: Dec 11, 2012 6:44 PM

    @angelheartsbuckeyes …

    If you scan this ridiculously long thread, you’ll see some comments on the historic reasons Southerners pull for the conference when its teams play outside the SEC. And, of course, our internal rivalries are fierce. But you’re right about the cyclical nature of the sport. I’ve posted many times about the pendulum swings in football. The SEC is a dominant conference right now–that doesn’t necessarily mean we dominate any other specific conference, as you pointed out. However, the bitter, unprovoked, and volatile comments posted to SEC fans by some Big 10 fans–such as packerbadger–does suggest the SEC has rented space in his little pea brain.

    As you noted, though, these things run in cycles. The Big 10, Pac-12, and ACC have dominated at various times in football history. One thing we all know–or should–is that the pendulum will swing again. That’s why we should enjoy it when our teams are up … but not get too comfortable. What goes up, must come down. ;)

  153. packerbadger says: Dec 12, 2012 3:20 PM

    Shut up woebegone. I’ll be in Madison for xmas and would be happy to tell anything to your face. I own a business and employ people. You know NOTHING about me….get lost punk.

    I see Deb, our sanctimonious hypocrite poster who says she judges no-one, but yet judges EVERYONE is back. You started your attacks on me because I dare state the facts that the SEC is a less educated conference; and thus its easier to field better football and basketball teams. You and normtide get are pretty sensitive over the academic issue; guess you’ve heard that quite a bit from others in the past. I guess the truth hurts, doesn’t it? Get over yourself. I’m guessing you’re a Steeler fan the way you complain. Btw, I’ve forgotten more than you’ll ever know.

  154. Deb says: Dec 12, 2012 5:19 PM

    A Steelers fan? What gave me away? It couldn’t have been all those references I’ve made to being a Steelers fan LOL

    Yes, as noted previously, I form opinions based on behavior, not where people are from or what teams they follow. Your bitter obsession with the SEC, bigoted stereotyping of all the people in the region, vulgarity, and cuckoo posts speak for themselves. Hmmm … you’re a former player? Perhaps you forgot to duck a few too many times. You poor thing.

  155. packerbadger says: Dec 13, 2012 9:03 AM

    You’re fun Deb. Just put a quarter in you and and stand back and watch. lol! Btw, its the Refereelers. Steelers won four Super Bowls. Steelers and Refs won two. Most of what they say about the south is true….I currently live in it. I did play football in hs as a middle linebacker and we won the state championship my junior yr. I competed in another sport in college. I was recruited by a number of southern schools; but I didn’t want to go to a racist, bigoted, intellectual vacuum.

  156. Deb says: Dec 13, 2012 5:30 PM

    The only reason for playing is to have fun. When it stops being fun, I wander to another playground. But you’ve about petered out now. Nah … I’ve never heard those ref jokes before LOL

  157. normtide says: Dec 22, 2012 8:11 PM

    Packerbadger- since you like making generalizations about groups of people, I suppose this represents all UW grads, athletes, and women from Wisconsin in general.

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/suzy-favor-hamilton-136952

    And there is a B1G award named after her. By your narrow thinking, all B1G female athletes are represented by her as well.

    Merry xmas, and maybe stop throwing stones.

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