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NCAA to reduce scholarship sanctions on Penn State

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Penn State’s — and state lawmakers’ — prolonged fight with the NCAA over historic sanctions levied on the football program is about to bear some fruit.

The NCAA announced Tuesday that, “[d]ue to Penn State University’s continued progress toward ensuring athletics integrity,” its executive committee has agreed to gradually restore scholarships the football program had lost in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex-abuse scandal. The move to restore scholarships, arguably the most crippling of the sanctions, was based on a recommendation by George Mitchell, who had been hired by the NCAA as an independent “integrity monitor.”.

The original sanctions called for a cap of 15 scholarships beginning in 2013 and running through 2016; the NCAA limit at the FBS level is 15.  Additionally, whereas FBS programs are permitted 85 scholarship players, the Nittany Lions would be allowed just 65.

The new directive from the NCAA, however, will allow Penn State to increase by five its scholarships in 2014, increasing to the full allotment of 25 the following year.  The program will be back up to its full allotment of 85 scholarship players beginning in 2016 — at least two full years ahead of what the original sanctions had called for — after moving to 75 in 2014 and 80 in 2015.

“The decision is the result of a thoughtful and deliberative process to ensure we reached the most appropriate outcome,” said Rita Hartung Cheng, who chaired the recent Executive Committee meetings regarding Senator Mitchell’s annual report and chancellor of Southern Illinois University at Carbondale. “During our discussions, we had the benefit of engaging with Senator Mitchell’s expert perspective and the views of our Big Ten colleagues.”

Other sanctions, including a four-year bowl ban and $60 million fine, remain in place, although the press release stated that the NCAA “may consider additional mitigation of the postseason ban in the future depending upon Penn State’s continued progress.”

Even if the bowl ban remains in place, the restoring of scholarships is by far the biggest win for the football program in general and head coach Bill O’Brien specifically.  That specific sanction has crippled O’Brien and his coaching staff on the recruiting trail; the additional scholarships will now allow the program to make bigger inroads in the recruiting game, the lifeblood of any program, and begin scaling back its “run-on” program beginning as early as this recruiting cycle.

O’Brien has been a big part of the progress over the past couple of years as Penn State continues to climb out of the hole created by the Sandusky scandal.  That progress was noted by embattled NCAA president Mark Emmert.

“The goal has always been to ensure the university reinforces clear expectations and a daily mindset within athletics that the highest priority must be placed on educating, nurturing and protecting young people,” said Emmert in a statement. “The Executive Committee’s decision to restore the football scholarships provides additional education opportunities and is an important recognition of Penn State’s progress.”

Pennsylvania governor Tom Corbett was happy with the NCAA’s decision.

“I am pleased that the NCAA is recognizing the important changes and reforms that the university has undertaken and will continue to make moving forward,” he said.

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61 Responses to “NCAA to reduce scholarship sanctions on Penn State”
  1. dhlions says: Sep 24, 2013 11:49 AM

    This seems just. Missed opportunity with the bowl ban though… let them play but make sure the proceeds go to child abuse charities and not the school.

  2. kinggator says: Sep 24, 2013 11:59 AM

    Didn’t they just lose to UCF at home? YAWN!

  3. @Cereal_22 says: Sep 24, 2013 12:16 PM

    Mitchell was hired by Penn State not the NCAA.

  4. wustlumdnj says: Sep 24, 2013 12:19 PM

    It’s a fascinating period in the northeast for college football. A couple years ago you would not think Rutgers could ever compete with Penn State for regional supremacy. PSU’s sanctions combined with RU’s ascent into the B1G has allowed Rutgers to hold its own with NJ recruiting (third ranked recruiting class in the B1G to Michigan and tOSU). And because of a smaller roster – could Rutgers beat PSU next year at home in its first ever B1G game? Are RU and PSU now on the same level? We’ll have to wait and see how this plays out in the long run.

  5. John Taylor says: Sep 24, 2013 12:23 PM

    From the NCAA’s Aug. 1, 2012, press release:

    “The NCAA today selected former U.S. Senator George Mitchell as the independent Athletics Integrity Monitor at Penn State.”

  6. techvet says: Sep 24, 2013 12:24 PM

    Let me know how the families and the victims feel about this. The most powerful people running things at Penn State cared about more their reputation than about completely ruining the lives of innocent people and the students seemed to care more about their beloved coach being ousted than anything else. The kids came last.

    Nothing like a get-out-of-jail-free card from well-oiled connections in Indianapolis.

  7. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Sep 24, 2013 12:29 PM

    Just making it up as they go along.

    Meanwhile we are 3 years in with Miami and 15 weeks since the COI heard the case.

    Bet USC would like some scholarships back too. Why not give UNC some back too? Oregon? UCF?

    Nah, just cases that are PR nightmares with massive pending lawsuits, try and appease the masses.

  8. uziele says: Sep 24, 2013 12:34 PM

    As a friend to one of the families, Techvet, at least one of the families supports the reduction. I won’t speak for all of the victims or their families but the one I’m friends with.

  9. techvet says: Sep 24, 2013 12:40 PM

    @Uziele:

    Thanks for the feedback. As the father of a special-needs child who will be vulnerable all his life, I am concerned about child abuse being trivialized. I await to hear what other families might say on this.

  10. pennst890 says: Sep 24, 2013 12:45 PM

    this is a criminal matter that the police need to take care of not the NCAA

  11. eagles512 says: Sep 24, 2013 12:45 PM

    This is fair. They went overboard originally.

  12. cometkazie says: Sep 24, 2013 12:52 PM

    Good!

  13. ace8842 says: Sep 24, 2013 1:00 PM

    this was a criminal case, and the NCAA does not usually get involved in criminal cases. Nothing Penn State did affected the integrity of the games themselves..they were not caught cheating. The creep is in jail, the coach, athletic director, and others were fired. To punish the innocent with academic scholarships taken away seems ridiculous. The bowl ban is a bit much, I thought 2 years at most.

  14. gershonpsu says: Sep 24, 2013 1:05 PM

    Mark Emmert is the last person to be lecturing the cleanest program in NCAA history on its priorities.

  15. tcwestdad says: Sep 24, 2013 1:07 PM

    Once again the NCAA drops the ball. PSU gained a competitive advantage by allowing Sandusky to coach. The NCAA is losing grasp of college athletics and none of us will be the better for it. It will be the Wild Wild West in a few years. Why even demand the kids attend class? Pay them to play, period. They can sell their services to the highest bidder.

  16. kane337 says: Sep 24, 2013 1:07 PM

    Meanwhile, Still waiting on the Miami ruling…..3 years and counting

  17. dkhhuey says: Sep 24, 2013 1:10 PM

    Ah, I see how it goes here in the way of critical thinking from the NCAA – since there have been no other reports of children beening anally raped and molested by a coach, the people in power don’t/haven’t had to cover it up, then they have greatly improved the integrity of athletics.

    Wow – just mind numbing logic there! I’m sure that murderers and other disgusting criminals in prison right now are asking their attorneys to use the Penn State logical argument to re-litigate their cases and get them out earlier.

  18. dhlions says: Sep 24, 2013 1:16 PM

    @dkhhuey

    Exactly what is the “Penn State logical” argument? Because as far as I can tell the people that are culpable in this case are facing serious criminal charges and the people who had nothing to do with it are seeing some level of reprieve from a governing body that actually has no legal authority.

    Seems to me like everything is falling into its right place.

  19. edpeters101 says: Sep 24, 2013 1:17 PM

    “The NCAA announced Tuesday that, “[d]ue to Penn State University’s continued progress toward ensuring athletics integrity,” its executive committee has agreed to gradually restore scholarships the football program had lost in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex-abuse scandal.”
    The real reason is because the NCAA has absolutely no idea what they are doing, and doing it very poorly!

  20. raiderufan says: Sep 24, 2013 1:17 PM

    Disband the NCAA and start fresh. They’re just making it up as they go and creating a much more negative tone towards collegiate sports than any good they’re doing.

  21. wallio says: Sep 24, 2013 1:17 PM

    This is really sad. Its not really surprising the cover up went on for so long and ran so deep when this is the “punishment”. SMU got the death penalty because 18 players broke NCAA rules. PSU breaks THE LAW then covers it up for years, and gets basically nothing. Seems legit.

  22. newlydead says: Sep 24, 2013 1:25 PM

    @wallio … it actually is legit and you made the argument for it being legit. SMU broke NCAA rules and the NCAA gave it the death penalty. Penn State did NOT break any NCAA rules, they broke the law and are being punished by the judicial system, they way it is meant to be.

    I don’t know why this simple fact is so hard for the common person to comprehend.

    if you get a DUI does the bank holding the loan for your car repossess your car? no it doesn’t because you did not break any rule/law (default) related to the bank/loan, you broke a law in the eyes of the justice system and wil be dealt with through the justice system. is that easy to understand?

  23. thegamecocker says: Sep 24, 2013 1:29 PM

    This is a step in the right direction by the NCAA for Penn State. The present higherarchy had nothing what so ever to do with this unfortunate crime. As far as Rutger’s being at the same level as Penn State, forget about it. Penn State is a powerhouse and always will be regardless of the loss to a very good Central Florida team. Their facilities are EXCELLENT compared to Rutger’s. Academically both schools are incredibly competitive. But High Point Solutions Stadium (Rutger’s Stadium) seats 52,000 while Beaver Stadium seats about 108,000. PSU despite having to turn over a hefty amount of money for the Sandusky crime, is still well-heeled with a strong alumni that gives money and plenty of it. Rutger’s may win 2 or 3 against PSU over the years in a 10 year period but when PSU is fully “scholarshipped up”, look out. And I’m a Rutger’s and South Carolina fan…..

  24. ufostomper says: Sep 24, 2013 1:34 PM

    IMO the ncaa raped the kids at psu more than Sandusky my question is what’s next

  25. tigertigerwoodsyall says: Sep 24, 2013 1:43 PM

    Obviously this is a polarizing topic, but some of these comments are absolutely ridiculous. WE ARE

  26. manzoa says: Sep 24, 2013 2:24 PM

    As is the usual for this site trolls, mouth breathing losers and haters post with abandon. The NCAA is a corrupt organization led by a low life with zero credibility. The Freeh report is a discredited joke and that will be confirmed in a court of law. But you losers living in trailer parks keep posting here…after all what else do you have to do with your free Obama phones.

  27. cometkazie says: Sep 24, 2013 2:34 PM

    Poof!

  28. charger383 says: Sep 24, 2013 2:37 PM

    NCAA should have stayed out of this altogether. The NCAA are not police

  29. katra2logic says: Sep 24, 2013 3:43 PM

    So Penn State thinks child molestation is okay then…

  30. vegasdestroyer says: Sep 24, 2013 3:54 PM

    If there was any guilty party that lost control in this matter it was Emmert who overreached. The NCAA should get the death penalty.

  31. pensfanintx says: Sep 24, 2013 4:12 PM

    It sounds like there are people talking here who have no idea regarding the actual facts of the case. Jerry S was no longer working under JoePa. He was given a choice, and JoePa fired him because he was paying more attention to being a pervert than mens football. Jerry S was not reporting to JoePa when he was caught in the act of molesting that child.

    If Jerry S was not working for JoePa, then the football program was not involved; ergo, the football program was unjustly punished. Penn State University should have been penalized, but not the football program. No one at Penn State thinks it’s ok to molest children.

    The guy who actually saw Jerry S molesting the child should have immediately intervened, taken that child to safety, and personally gone to the police station to report the crime. Instead, this cowardly 29 year old called his father, and went to his father’s home to discuss the issue. Then both father and son decided to call JoePa the NEXT day, and still did not report the actual incident. He told JoePa that he witnessed “inappropriate horse-play” and “saw Jerry S showering with the kids.” An 80+ year old man does not equate that to child molestation.
    When my brothers played football in Jr. High and high school, their coaches showered with them and no one thought any different about it. Reversing some of the sanctions on the football team is fair!!
    Also, I agree that some of the comments are ridiculous. An intelligent person can succinctly air their opinions without reverting to name calling and demeaning others. Everyone has an opinion and has a right to voice that opinion…it’s just some of us are better versed on the matter than others.

  32. barkleyblows says: Sep 24, 2013 4:39 PM

    What a joke. Ped State shouldn’t even be a school anymore.

  33. dkhhuey says: Sep 24, 2013 4:56 PM

    Hey – why they’re at it, let’s restore all of the wins back, put back up the Joe Paterno’s statue, and pretend nothing really happened on campus! God knows they didn’t really mean to interrupt the football program just because a few kids got rapped and molested by a coach, on the campus, and team hotels! Yep, all is right at PSU now!!!

  34. djstat says: Sep 24, 2013 5:41 PM

    NCAA = Cowards. Penn State football deserves the death penalty

  35. skwackquackwoof says: Sep 24, 2013 6:11 PM

    I am simply never going to watch Peen St in any context ever again. I don’t care if they are playing the Ducks for a national championship. If the NCAA won’t pronounce em dead , they are at least dead to me. Any athlete that still plays any sport at that school had the opportunity to leave with dignity and honor, so there are no more “innocents.” From my point of view, if you decide to represent the school who did everything in it’s power to v over up several sexual assaults, that is tantamount to endorsement of said actions. I used to be Catholic, enough said. This school made a public statement that they would accept the consequences handed down, now they are fighting it with a skeezy politician that is on their payroll and somehow independent. Ex-Senators don’t show up to a women’s business luncheon for less than $5k. I’m sorry for the guyinstitution’s more honorable alumni and history, but there are consequnces. To put it in criminal terms, the institution (not just individuals) is guilty of accessory to rape, child abuse, lewd conduct with a minor, and obstruction of justice…AND SEVERAL ACCOUNTS OF IT! In a criminal court even if you have OJ and GZs lawyer you are serving several sentences and not concurrently.

  36. YouMadCauseImStylingOnYou says: Sep 24, 2013 6:29 PM

    I’m astonished of how many Penn State apologists there still are.

    Your University and Athletic Department decided that protecting the legacy of Joe Paterno and the reputation of Penn State football was more important than reporting a coach that was raping children in your own facilities.

    No sports program at any school in the history of collegiate athletics has ever done anything even remotely close to this simply for the sake of winning.

    The football program wasn’t even good enough to even justify this. One national championship in 125 years of existence (don’t even try to claim 1982). It’s insanity that anyone can still try to argue for Penn State.

  37. powercorrupts2 says: Sep 24, 2013 6:41 PM

    Many of the people posting here appear to have emotional issues and biases that cause them to ignore the facts in the case:
    There is a lot of evidence that Tom Corbett, the Pennsylvania Governor, used Freeh to scapegoat Paterno, et al. so that he (Corbett) would not be blamed. He controlled the Penn State Board of Trustees that arranged for the Freeh Report and accepted its incredibly biased conclusions (read the Freeh Report and you will see that the evidence cited does not support the conclusions). The only real “evidence” against Paterno (and PSU officials) was the testimony of McQueary. McQueary was a very unreliable witness (he changed his story many times and some say he had a grudge against the University because he lost his job) and his testimony was directly contradicted by the testimony of Dr. Jonathan Dranov. Dr. Dranov is a very reliable witness, graduated Phi Beta Kappa, attended a prestigious Ivy League medical school, is a Board Certified Internist and Nephrologist, has more than 30 years of experience in questioning patients to get accurate histories and is familiar with the mandatory reporting requirement for child abuse. He interviewed McQueary on the night that McQueary says he saw Sandusky and the child showering together. Dr. Dranov testified that he asked McQueary three times if he had seen anything of a sexual nature and three times McQueary said no. It can safely be assumed that Dr. Dranov did not report this himself because from his extensive knowledge and experience he didn’t think it crossed the threshold for reporting. So this is what Paterno, a layman, and the others heard. They also had access to a report by the police in 1998 when Sandusky gave a child “a bear hug” and was investigated by a police detective, the PA Department of Public Welfare in Harrisburg, the Centre County DA’s Office, and a CCYS counselor who interviewed the child and wrote a report. The conclusion of the police report was “no sexual assault occurred” and no charges were filed. Since this is all that Paterno and the others knew, what are they guilty of? No victims had come forth. Attacking Sandusky without evidence could generate a defamation suit. Adults and children showering together is not illegal. As a child I showered with adults in the sports facility of an SEC University where my father was a faculty member. Children and adults of the same sex shower together at the recreation facility in the town where I currently live.
    Louis Freeh does not have “lily white” credibility. He had to resign as FBI Director after a Business Week article on “Carnivore”. He left with a history of: the Waco siege cover-up, insubordination to Attorney General Janet Reno, the Robert Hansen mole case, ordering use of FBI sharpshooters at Ruby Ridge which led to the death of Randy Weaver’s wife while she was holding their child in her arms, etc..
    The Freeh Report is: (1) an “ex parte” document (not an independent report) that was funded with millions of dollars by parties who have a conflict of interest in the case (Tom Corbett controlled the PSU Board of Trustees and was the PA DA who had jurisdiction over the original complaints against Sandusky but failed to investigate them in a timely fashion); (2) written in a prosecutorial fashion with no apparent concern for innocence; (3) criticizes the actions of people using a hindsight perspective that employs information that none of them knew; (4) does not contain a response by the accused parties (Curley, Spanier, Schultz, Paterno); (5) is written by someone who has a checkered history and may have a biased view of the case.
    The football program at PSU and its student athletes did not enable or protect Sandusky. They had nothing to do with his behavior. The NCAA had no business giving any sanctions. They should remove them all and repay the money they have taken with interest.

  38. skwackquackwoof says: Sep 24, 2013 6:51 PM

    That is a very carefully, well-worded, thuroughly crafted objection…overruled!

  39. thegamecocker says: Sep 24, 2013 6:55 PM

    @powercorrupts2

    I agree with your assessment and I don’t think Coach Paterno held back any evidence in this entire matter. I believe he focused solely on his football program which Sandusky had no part of since 1998. I will say this: I distinctly remember when Sandusky was either relieved of his job on Coach Paterno’s staff and I thought it strange at that time. It struck me that a such a high-profile successful Coach as Sandusky was would just pick-up and leave. At that time of his life, Coach Paterno could think clearly and was able to put sentences together to be coherent. Maybe he knew Sandusky had a problem and told him to seek help…..but we will never know was Coach Paterno knew or didn’t know. In my eyes, he is still a great man and always will be. I know that will create enmity for this position but that is the way I feel.

  40. doggeatdogg says: Sep 24, 2013 7:32 PM

    This is a nothing more than a smokescreen by the NCAA. Ultimately, the schools are it’s master but the NCAA has become an evil entity impervious to exorcism by the schools. They are like Cujo on steroids. The NCAA knows their days are numbered as the schools continue to realign to form super conferences for Football Only. The NCAA will be allowed to continue for other sports but the big moneymaker is slipping away so they are trying to make amends and play a little nicer. The first order of business will be to establish concepts the NCAA opposes such as a playoff system and figure out something about money benefits for players.

  41. tigersfandan says: Sep 24, 2013 7:42 PM

    The NCAA had no business imposing any sanctions in the first place. I don’t care if this offends the one person who is gaming the thumbs up and thumbs down on this thread.

  42. sdl65 says: Sep 24, 2013 7:45 PM

    Looks like that $90 million a year has reared its ugly head again.
    It’s just too bad those kids who were molested won’t be getting anything back. Innocence lost.
    I just find it all so mind numbing.

  43. mogogo1 says: Sep 24, 2013 8:31 PM

    Safe to say that Miami is breathing pretty easy after this. If sanctions couldn’t stick in this case against Penn State (with compelling evidence they covered things up to protect JoePa’s legacy) there’s no way anything is happening to Miami where the NCAA admits gross improprieties occurred during the investigation.

    Frankly, I think the days of the NCAA being able to go after anybody about anything are past.

  44. penswincupagain says: Sep 25, 2013 12:59 AM

    Good to see that Football is once again the first (& only) important thing to Penn State, it’s cult-like alumni & it’s pimp the NCAA. Whew, that was a rough 18 months, I’d have thought the gnat-like attention spanned American public would have forgotten about child rape in less than a year, after all, they forgot about child mass murder in Connecticut in less than that.

    & before I hear the idiotic mantra… “Don’t punish the current kids” bla bla bla, as if no other school would pick them up when they were free to transfer. Or hell, since only 1 or 2 will actually be good enough to play in the pro’s just let them keep their free ride & not play football. The stars can pick any school they want, you know, just like it was before they choose to attend pedophile state u. Anything short of tearing down the stadium & permanently ending football at PSU is simply a feeble attempt to cover the fact that this whole thing is simply about money.

    Millions of mouth-breathers buy tickets, rent hotel rooms & most importantly watch commercials in tidy three hour increments every saturday in fall that pave the streets with gold & outweigh all sin. Nothing is as important as the almighty buck.

  45. bmoresteal says: Sep 25, 2013 8:01 AM

    I love how people are condemning everything that even remotely has to do with Penn State. These people have never been there, never taken part in anything. THON raised $12M for pediatric cancer research yet they don’t talk about that. No one talks about the insane amount of research done to better the lives because of THON. They never talk about that good that has gone on at that school for decades. All they know is what the media (ESPN and their white horse) has jammed down their throats.

    Anyone with half of a brain knows the Freeh Report was biased and based off of speculation. Zero evidence to support any of the conclusions. Even the main stream media is now coming around to that. Bob Costas has been one of the biggest supporters of this and it’s only going to grow.

    I feel sorry for people who automatically grab their pitch forks and go running at whatever cause the media deems necessary at the given time. Yes, people screwed up. Yes, people should have taken the signs more seriously. And yes, how things went down was ghastly. However,there are more pople to blame than just the ones listed in the Freeh Report. More and more information and facts will come out while Spanier, Curley, and Schultz go to trial for criminal offenses. Joe will never be able to tell his side of everything becuase he’s dead. A dead man can tell his side of what happened or his thought process.

    I hope in my lifetime that all of the information comes out and that the truth will restore what was once a magnificent school and amazing community to what it once was.

  46. kastout11 says: Sep 25, 2013 8:43 AM

    Let me make this perfectly clear for all you Penn State haters that are posting here. The student/athletes, coaches and anyone affiliated with the PSU football program had “nothing” to do with the Sandusky nonsense. What went on there was disgusting, and I feel terrible about what the families of the victims had to go through and will have to continue to go through, but why punish those who had no involvement. The sanctions made no sense to me when they were put out and still make no sense to me. For one, I am glad they are restoring scholarships and hopefully we will add one more competitive team in the Big Ten.

  47. thegamecocker says: Sep 25, 2013 8:48 AM

    @bmoresteal

    You are 100% correct about the positive effects that THON has had re. the fight against cancer. I have seen PSU students standing in the cold and rain at stop lights asking for donations. And I gave what I could each and every time. I told those students to be proud of their University and that these good deeds will pay off in the end. I have so much respect for the rank and file student at PSU because they “talk the talk and WALK THE WALK”. The football team had nothing to do with the scandal; the rank and file student had nothing to do with the scandal. Those that were ALLEDGED to have covered up the crimes have been relieved of their responsibilities. PSU has paid over $60 million in fines to the NCAA. Even after the penalties and sanctions related to this scandal, the kids were still out there for THON! PSU is a world-class university…..penalizing them is really like “cutting off your nose to spite your face!” Society is hurt because outstanding students who do care about humanity may think twice about attending PSU and that shouldn’t be. And my kids are Rutgers graduates yet that is how much respect I have for PSU! Ya Basta….enough already!!!!

  48. omniusprime says: Sep 25, 2013 8:52 AM

    The NCAA proves that it’s just as bad as Pedophile State at protecting abused children. What a travesty of justice giving Pedophile State back any scholarships. The corrupt NCAA never gave USC back any of the too many scholarships it stole from USC over the wrongs of Reggie Bush.

    It was a shame that the NCAA didn’t give Pedophile State the death penalty for it’s putrid football program, but this proves that college football and making money is far more important than keeping our children safe from pedophile perverts like Sandusky. Plus it’s sad to see all the Pedophile State perverts come out saying this lessening of punishment is a good thing, you people have no morals.

  49. kastout11 says: Sep 25, 2013 9:23 AM

    OMNIUSPRIME, YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!

  50. blastfurnaceknows says: Sep 25, 2013 9:59 AM

    Let’s see – college football coach rapes and molests children on campus and at least on one occasion on a team road trip. Check. People in power at PSU know about it. Check. Those people include the AD and the football team’s head coach. Check. Those people in power maintain a confidential file of the allegations. Check. Those people in power decide that instead of reporting the allegations to the state police that the “more humane” course was to talk to the rapist about the allegations. Check. Then those people in power sit idly by for YEARS while said coach continues to rape and molest children for nearly a DECADE. Check. Then the cowardly and impotent NCAA levies sanctions that does not include the death penalty for the WORST and most heinous scandal in college athletics history. Check. And in just a few years, the NCAA begins to retract the sanctions. Check. And the cult of PSU football worship still has the nerve to post here how they are the real victims of this historical mouths-shut cover-up? Boy, you people have a well-earned reputation for lips-on-ass blind adoration!!!!!

    PSU failed the child victims for nearly a decade and now the NCAA has begun Chapter 2 of that criminal neglect. Lots to be happy and proud about there. If I were a PSU fan, I’d keep my mouth shut now, while the NCAA stumbles and fumbles all over itself in this Chapter of YOUR scandal. I certainly wouldn’t be posting here or elsewhere with such righteous indignation. But, then again, I’ve never been a part of a cult, so maybe I just don’t understand?

  51. bmoresteal says: Sep 25, 2013 11:04 AM

    @blastfurnaceknows

    You obviously have not followed what has transpired but have based your entire argument off of message boards and poorly written articles. The head ccoach did not know and Sandusky never had charges filed in 1998. How was anyone supposed to know if the States Attorney felt there was nothing there? Further more, he was no longer a member of the athletic department.

    I don’t think anyone has said they are the vicitims moreso than the children. You are reaching here and it’s a shame that whatever hatred you have to PSU is dragging them into your poorly crafted rebuttle.

    You have failed comment on how the Freeh Report, while accepted by the NCAA, has shown enough cracks to show reasonible doubt. Furthermore, you have failed to have any knowledge of what has transpired as a result of the Freeh Report showing cracks. No rebuttle on how Bob Costas is now supporting Penn State or any other major media members.

    You obviously only accept what is hand fed to you and probably thrive of drama and lack rational thinking. I am willing to bet that you have not read any of the documents. Please educate yourself of the entire situation then attempt to speak on the matter.

    @omniusprime you sir sound as uneducated on this matter as the other fellow.

  52. tdub821 says: Sep 25, 2013 11:58 AM

    Lets not forget…Joe Knew.

  53. openseason51 says: Sep 25, 2013 4:52 PM

    Wow! I guess it is all about who NCAA people like vs the ones they don’t. USC Reggie Bush parents got a house. Sandusky and used the campus and facilities to abuse kids. Amazing but prophetic. Evil is now good and good is evil

  54. blastfurnaceknows says: Sep 25, 2013 8:01 PM

    bmore:

    I have read the Freeh report. It makes it clear that Paterno knew about the 1998 allegations and was “following it closely” per a handwritten note. But it is not that allegation that is so bothersome to the objective crowd (which you so clearly are not a part of). It is what happened in 2002 and thereafter. Your rebuttal to the objective position from that point on is, well, pathetic cultist, illogical, irrational garbage.

    Let me paraphrase you and the cultist’s position in that regard. Sandusky was no longer an active coach, so it was no longer the athletic department’s responsibility to concern itself with his raping and molestation. Really? Are you an adult? Are you even a human being? The athletic department continued to allow Sandusky to utilize school property, including the showers and the gym. He was also allowed to conduct “football camps” with disadvantaged youths on school property since 2002. Who cares, right? He was no longer a coach there, right? Never mind that he used his status and ACCESS to PSU to groom children for molestation, rape and victimization. Right? Never mind that he actually victimized children on PSU’s campus, right? Not your (by your, I mean PSU’s) problem, right? Must be nice to be so far removed from any kind of moral compass, that child rape is so easily marginalized. By nice, I really mean sad and kind of sick.

    Maybe you should read a few texts on law enforcement or sexual assault before your next post, because it is you who is quite clearly beyond your depths and education on this issue, not me. I’m willing to bet that your obvious ignorance is apparent to everyone who actually knows you. That kind of ignorance is just too hard to hide.

  55. bmoresteal says: Sep 26, 2013 7:18 AM

    @blastfurnaceknows

    If my moral compass reflects your beliefs then yes, it would need some work. By reading the Freeh Report you must of read the ESPN version because the hand written note you reference says “Coach”. Leaves a lot to be desired with who “Coach” may be. The 2002 incident you speak of was tragic and never should have happened. However, the fact he was given access to the facilities ties right back to 1998 when the States Attorney declared that were was no evidence to move forward with a case and all allegations were dropped. Maybe you should learn the facts of what actually happened.

    After the 2002 incident the proper steps were taken and the university notified. You can sit there and say “but but he should have done this and that”. In the end it comes down to what was actually said. Obviously for whatever reason Curley and Schultz did not follow through on what they were supposed to do and no one will ever know what Joe knew or did not know, he’s dead.

    Now let me get to the part where you call me ignorant. First of all, you don’t know me. You don’t know my education, which is pretty substantial, and you don’t know anything about my life. To be honest with you, I don’t really care. You call me a “pathetic cultist, illogical, irrational garbage.” YOU are the one who came on here spewing garbage and attacking based off of what? Some deep seeded hatred for a university that while it did make large mistakes it has acknowledge, has done nothing to affect you. So please, keep talking about how your moral compass is always pointing North and coming across as if you are on some sort of mountain or morality. You are pathetic. My guess is that you went to Pitt or a community college (are you Mark May?) and read too much ESPN. I have read, quite extensively, on law enforcement and sexual assault and how sexual predators act and prey on victims. Here’s a little clue you…they are master manipulators…Hence why no one thought he was capable of such crimes. But then again, I’m guessing you, being of such high morality and a borderline expert on all things legal, would know this.

    Have fun with your crusade on your white horse with your pitchfork. I hope that one day when your morality and judgment is compromised, and it will since we are all human (maybe not you since you must be a saint), people will show the same compassion that you have shown others.

    Btw, you may want to get that ESPN subscription renewed, I hear they are starting to see the Freeh Report is garbage as well. Maybe then once the Good ‘Ol Boys from Bristol say it you’ll be enlightened.

  56. blastfurnaceknows says: Sep 26, 2013 9:52 AM

    Typical cultist response. Clearly you’ve renewed that subscription over and over again. For someone like you, I’m sure it was money well spent.

    The problem your ilk faces is that many children were victimized after 2002, when EVERYONE agrees the school had been placed on notice that Sandusky was the monster he was proven to be beyond a reasonable doubt at trial. Your ilk responds by this harsh, ugly reality by doing what? Contrition? Apologies? Reconsideraton of values or priorities? No, of course not. That’s not the Penn State way!

    Instead, those who have objectively viewed this unprecedented scandal are deemed by your ilk to be ESPN-drones (I hate ESPN, by the way) or graduates of some rival school, no matter how dormant that rivalry may be. That’s the typical response, because the facts are simply too unbearable to defend. If the “proper steps” WERE actually taken in 2002, many victims would have been spared. But, of course, those objective among us know those steps were not taken. The state police, with specialized sex assault investigators, were never contacted. Never given the opportunity to investigate the monster that was allowed to freely lurk on PSU’s campus for YEARS. The charity at issue was never contacted to at least prevent unsupervised coach-boy outings. Contact CYS? No, why do that? So, the rapes and molestation continued, unabated, and there is nothing you can write or say to defend that stark reality. That reality lies at the feet of PSU and all those who knew, or even suspected, that Sandusky was the criminally sick purveyor of child violence that he was.

    Enjoy your world of fiction, it is the only place one can reside without completely indicting PSU and its culture in Sandusky’s decade long child sexual assault spree. But, I guess if I am a Pitt or OSU or Michigan or WVU or whatever the current rival may be (UCF?) alumni, then that excuses it all. YOU have FUN with THAT.

  57. bmoresteal says: Sep 26, 2013 10:12 AM

    I seem to have touched a nerve with Pitt…oh dear…

    Nice UCF reference. I chuckled at your “Let’s attack a loss to good football team” tactic. You must not have had anything else mention.

    I’m not saying the proper steps were taken in 2002. I never did. You may want to go back and reread what I said. Everyone knows they weren’t. People of authority dropped the ball. Those same people are no longer with the university and are being taken to trial and will hopefully spend years in jail. The one person who could have and should have shed light on everything is now dead and for whatever reason was told to not hold a press conference to speak on the matter. The Freeh Report didn’t even interview the people involved. No, it quoted janitors. Not the people who were involved. There may be been some disconnect there.

    Lets recap shall we:
    -Shoddy investigation
    -Interviewed wrong people
    -No evidence provided

    Sounds like a bangup report I would want my name on!

    Maybe you should wait for the criminal trials to start and get more information about what actually happened instead of jumping to conclusions. But then that could make too much sense.

    I can TYPE in CAPITAL letters TOO!

  58. thegamecocker says: Sep 26, 2013 10:32 AM

    @bmoresteal

    South Carolina travels to Oralando this weekend to play UCF and I am worried. UCF is a heck of a ball club under George O’Leary and I’m hoping we play well enough to leave there with a victory. According to the Head Ball Coach, we are NOT taking them lightly. UCF can play with anyone and be competitive, let alone WIN. No shame in losing to UCF. And I agree with your posts. The Gamecocker

  59. blastfurnaceknows says: Sep 27, 2013 10:14 AM

    Nerve? If there is one thing a PSU cult member knows something about, it is that (and probably only that). Blame Freeh, that’ll work, that explains it all away. Blame ESPN, that explains it too. They must have set the whole thing up. Nice little tidy collective conspiracy. Deflect away, bmore.

    Your school allowed a monstrous child rapist to rape and rape and rape and rape again. PSU will NEVER crawl out from under that reality, nor should it. Enjoy the life-long taint, you and your ilk deserve it.

    P.S. The UCF comment was intended to simply illustrate that PSU has new real rival anymore. But you have aptly corrected that for me, as it is clear that PSU will have a life-long rivalry with the TRUTH. Just don’t expect to win many of those matchups OUTSIDE of your perverse cult.

  60. dkhhuey says: Sep 27, 2013 2:35 PM

    Complete bullshit – the NCAA is completely pathetic!

  61. lrg51 says: Sep 28, 2013 5:50 PM

    Hate the NCAA…

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