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The Fifth Quarter: Week 12 Rewind

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As is the case each and every season, each and every week, any omission below is not on purpose, it’s merely intentional.

THUMBS UP

War Damn Miracle… and the Mother of All Iron Bowls
For a short period of time, it appeared that the Alabama-Auburn game for all of the SEC West Tostitos would be nothing but a distant memory thanks to the fourth-quarter heroics of Aaron Murray and his Georgia teammates.  And then, the Dawg Gone Miracle went and happened and the Mother of All Iron Bowls was back on.  While there’s still the little matter of Alabama getting past its scrimmage against FCS-level Chattanooga next weekend — after it struggled with Mississippi State this weekend — Nov. 30 is set for an epic in-state showdown: the  7-0 (in SEC play) Tide versus the 6-1 Tigers, with the winner staking its claim to the SEC West and earning a berth in the conference title game the following weekend.  In the 21 years since the SEC went to divisional play, the Iron Bowl has never served as a winner-take-all affair for the SEC West.  Hide the women, children and Udykes, y’all; this one’s gonna be huge.

SEC East clarity
Meanwhile, on the redheaded stepchild side of the SEC, the chase for a spot in the conference championship game is nearly as simple as it is in the West.  With South Carolina’s escape against Florida, the Gamecocks finish league play at 6-2.  Missouri, which was idle this weekend, is at 5-1.  If the Tigers win their last two games on the road against Ole Miss and at home against Texas A&M, Mizzou will face the winner of the Alabama-Auburn Iron Bowl the first Saturday in December in Atlanta.  If Mizzou stumbles once either week?  The Gamecocks, based on their Oct. 26 overtime win over the Tigers, will represent the East division in the league title game.  If Mizzou can get past an up-and-down Rebels squad, both the SEC East and West will be decided on the final week of the regular season.  That, I would think, would be kind of cool.

Ed OrgeronOregon for Orgeron
Nov. 7, the bottom dropped out of Oregon’s football world.  Not only did the Ducks lose its stranglehold on a potential spot in the BCS title game, they lost control of their own division with the loss to Stanford.  10 days later, their world’s looking a bit brighter.  Thanks to USC’s stunning upset of Stanford, Oregon now merely needs to take care of business against Arizona and Oregon State the next two weeks and it will claim the Pac-12 North’s spot in the conference title game.  Just who the opposition would be remains to be seen.  Arizona State, at 6-1 in the conference, needs to “simply” beat UCLA (5-2) next weekend on the road to win the South division, regardless of what happens in the regular season finale against Arizona and regardless of what USC (5-2) does in its last two games (ASU 62, USC 41 the day prior to Lane Kiffin‘s firing).  The Sun Devils, though, aren’t the only ones that control its own divisional fate; the Bruins can win the South if they wins their last two (ASU, USC).  Unbelievably, the Trojans also have a (slim) shot at a South crown.  If USC wins its last two, and if ASU loses its last two, the Trojans would be the South’s representative in the Pac-12 title game.  To boil it down: the South will have much more clarity after the ASU-UCLA game next Saturday.  Probably.

Nerd slipper still fits
I’m a sucker for a good Cinderella sports story, especially when it comes to football.  And this season, it doesn’t get any more Cinderella than Duke.  Not only have the Blue Devils become bowl-eligible in back-to-back seasons for the first time in the program’s history, they are in control of the ACC Coastal division thanks to the 48-30 pounding of Miami.  To repeat, Duke, a program that hasn’t won an outright ACC championship since 1962 and last shared one in 1989, is in the driver’s seat to represent the Coastal in the conference championship game.  If Duke is able to go on the road the next two weeks and beat Wake Forest (4-6 overall, 2-5 in ACC) and North Carolina (5-5, 4-3), the Blue Devils will face Florida State for the league title and a BCS berth.  Yes, that’s a blowout waiting to happen, but the fact that Duke is even in the discussion let alone the divisional driver’s seat  makes it one of the best stories of the year.

For all the rushing yards
When you think of Wisconsin football, whether it be under Barry Alvarez or Bret Bielema or Gary Andersen, you think ground game.  As if to drive home that point, the Badgers decided to run the ball right down the throats of Indiana Saturday afternoon.  UW rushed for 323 yards… then came back out for the second half, finishing with a season-high 554 yards that was 10 yards shy of the school’s single-game record and the most by an FBS team this season.  Three different Badger backs ran for over 100 yards: James White, 20-205; Melvin Gordon, 13-146; Corey Clement, 11-108.  This was the third time this season that trio of backs had each gained 100-plus yards in a single game.  A fourth player, wide receiver Jared Abbrederis, just missed the 100-yard mark with 86 — and two touchdowns — on just three carries.  The Badgers averaged a staggering 11.1 yards on their fifty carries and, well, you get the point.

Probe, schmobe
Jameis Winston may or may not be facing some rather serious charges in the next week or two, but, if he’s concerned about the investigation into an alleged sexual assault, he didn’t show it on the field Saturday afternoon.  In the first half of Florida State’s drubbing of Syracuse, the presumptive Heisman front-runner completed 19-of-21 passes for 277 yards and two touchdowns.  That would be the extent of Winston’s work for the day as the redshirt freshman spent the rest of the game holding the proverbial clipboard as the reserves closed out yet another dominating win.  It was a virtuoso performance in a situation that, given the off-field circumstances, would’ve sent most people most people cowering anywhere but the very public spotlight of a football field.  I don’t know if Winston should or shouldn’t be charged, or is guilty or not guilty.  What I do know is that, for the sake of a young man with such a bright future, I hope he’s not.  Even more so, I hope that, if a crime was indeed committed, the alleged victim gets the justice she deserves — regardless of who the perpetrator may be.

I’m still here
It took approximately a nanosecond after Oregon lost to Stanford two Thursdays ago for Marcus Mariota to be all but eliminated, by the general public at least, from the Heisman race.  Saturday, the quarterback showed exactly why he’s still one of the best football players in the country despite a blemish on his team’s résumé.  Mariota passed for 288 yards and three touchdowns in a little over three quarters of work in the bounce-back win over Utah.  This season, Mariota has thrown 25 touchdowns and zero interceptions in 285 pass attempts.  He is the only FBS quarterback in the Top 100 in passing efficiency who has yet to throw a pick.  It’s a shame that one subpar game — in which he was playing hurt, no less — has overshadowed what’s been a magnificent season for a player who’s done more than enough to be in the thick of the stiff-armed discussion.

Andre 300Andre Williams
Unbeknownst to some (most?), Andre Williams of Boston College came into today’s game with North Carolina State leading the nation in rushing.  Suffice to say, he did absolutely nothing to hurt that standing.  All the senior did was rush for 339 yards — on “just” 42 carries — in the Eagles’ win over the Wolfpack.  The total is the most ever in ACC history — the FBS record is 409 by TCU’s LaDainian Tomlinson — and breaks the school record Williams set a week ago.  His 634 yards the past two weeks is second in FBS history in back-to-back games, surpassed only by Texas’ Ricky Williams‘ 668 in 1998.

You down with OHP? Yes, yes you are Mr. Fan
Every home game, Oklahoma Highway Patrol officer Brian Orr is assigned to protect the blindside, and every other side for that matter, of Oklahoma head coach Bob Stoops.  Orr is a rather large man who has, based on the size of his biceps, been to many a gun show.  During the Sooners’ win over Iowa State Saturday, an overexuberant fan decided to take to the field and begin celebrating another OU win over the Cyclones a little early.  Showing SEC speed to go along with his size, Orr left his post as Stoops’ protector and, well, did this:

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Officer Orr, there’s a Vince McMahon on Line 1 for you…

It was also good form on the part of Orr as he avoided being flagged for targeting a defenseless fan.

Myles and Myles of two-way talent
In the week after linebacker Myles Jack ran for 120 yards in UCLA’s win last Saturday, head coach Jim Mora was asked about the true freshman’s role on offense moving forward. “He’s a linebacker,” the Bruins coach said.  We doubted the one-way sincerity at the time; Mora, though, was kind of enough to remove all doubt Friday night.  All Jack did for an encore in the win over Washington was rush for four touchdowns on just 13 carries while adding five tackles on the other side of the ball.  Likening the balance of Jack’s time on offense and defense to “a dance,” Mora called him “an outstanding linebacker”… but at the same time said “we are going to continue to use him” in the backfield.  For his part, Jack prefers to be the hitter instead of the hittee. “I’m still defense all the way,” the linebacker said after the Bruins’ win over the Huskies.  Whatever, just get the talented kid on the field as much as possible.

THUMBS DOWN

Sack Mack back in vogue
Judging by my emails and the reaction on Twitter, all of the goodwill Mack Brown had gained over the past few weeks is gone.  Evaporated.  Vanished.  The 25-point loss to Oklahoma State, at home and after the Longhorns had just reentered the rankings no less, snapped UT’s six-game winning streak and wrested control of the Big 12 out of their hands.  After fading to the background, and fair or not, the calls for UT and its new athletic director to make a change at head coach will return and will be as loud as ever.  And, yes, that means the tiresome Saban-to-UT speculation will be an ever-present reminder to Brown and everyone else that many, many people want that change.  Whether those who actually hold the power to make such a thing happen agree, however, remains to be seen.

Will MuschampBowl-less in Gainesville
No, it’s not official but it might as well be.  Thanks to the five-point loss to South Carolina, 4-6 Florida will now have to beat Georgia Southern next week and… No. 2 Florida State the following week to become bowl-eligible.  In other words, the Gators won’t be bowl-eligible in 2013.  When the final gun sounds on the loss to the Seminoles, the Gators will have been shut out of the postseason for the first time since 1990, the first season with Steve Spurrier as head coach.  While they were 9-2 that season, they were ineligible for a bowl due to NCAA sanctions.  The last time UF played its way to a bowl-less season?  The 6-5 1986 squad.  Athletic director Jeremy Foley issued an unequivocal, no-gray-area-here declaration of public support for Will Muschamp earlier in the week.  We’ll take the straight-shooting Foley at his word.  When it comes to the offensive assistants on Muschamp’s staff?  Don’t buy any green bananas.  And do month-to-month leases, if possible.

Singing the Big Offensive Blues
Yes, Michigan was able to end its two-game skid, but all is most decidedly not right in the Land of Big Blue.  In the three-overtime win over conference-winless Northwestern, the Wolverines managed just three field goals in regulation.  The offense barely cracked 300 yards the first four quarters despite not committing a turnover and being penalized just once the entire game — and doing it against a defense that was 80th in the country in total defense at 417.9 yards per game coming in.  On ESPN‘s College GameDay show, former Michigan wide receiver Desmond Howard called out Al Borges, challenging the fourth-highest paid offensive coordinator to earn his salary.  It’s highly unlikely Brady Hoke would do something as drastic as make a change at coordinator in the offseason.  Whether he should, though, is another matter entirely.

Seat as hot as a burning couch
If it wasn’t before, the honeymoon in Morgantown is officially over.  West Virginia became Kansas’ first Big 12 victim in three years, suffering an embarrassing 12-point loss to a team that had won twice in 2013 coming in.  The loss dropped the Mountaineers to 4-7 on the season and officially knocked them out of bowl contention.  In two-plus seasons at WVU, Holgorsen is 21-16 overall and 6-11 in Big 12 play.  While this sobering stat is unrelated to the latest miserable loss, it bears repeating: in 37 games under Dana Holgorsen, West Virginia has lost nine of them by 21-plus points.  In 126 games under Rich Rodriguez and Bill Stewart, which spanned a 10-year period, the Mountaineers were beaten by 21 or more points a total of eight times.  In other words, the Mountaineers simply aren’t competitive on a consistent basis under Holgorsen.  With the move from the Big East to the more competitive Big 12, that’s a coaching death waiting to happen.  And, based on the people in my area, there are plenty of fans eager to line up and pull the plug.

TOP 25 TOO-CLOSE-FOR-COMFORT
How ranked teams endured close shaves vs. unranked opponents

– No. 1 Alabama 20, Mississippi State 7: As best as I can recall, this is the first time since I began doing this feature four years ago that the top-ranked team in the country has appeared in this category.  Four turnovers on the road, however, will do that to a team.  While it’s highly unlikely that enough voters would flip based solely on this performance, there’s a very good likelihood that Florida State will pick up quite a few first-place poll votes and chip into the Tide’s commanding rankings lead.

– No. 11 South Carolina 19, Florida 14: With all of the injuries the Gators have incurred this season, I have no clue how they did it.  Baling wire and duct tape were involved, I assume.  Regardless, the Gamecocks, which finished off the SEC portion of its slate with the win, remain within shouting distance of first-place Missouri.  And will be the biggest Ole Miss/Texas A&M fans the next two weeks.

– No. 15 UCF 39, Temple 36:   It took a miraculous touchdown catch — and that catch was the dictionary definition of an athletic miracle — and a field goal with no time on the clock, but the Knights were able to finally subdue the one-win Owls, maintaining a firm stranglehold on their AAC lead and continuing to close in on the first-ever BCS berth in the program’s history.

– No. 19 Louisville 20, Houston 13: Trailing the Cougars by three at halftime, the Cardinals put 10 points on the board in the third quarter while holding the potent UH offense to no points in the second half to win its third straight game after losing its first game of the season.

– No. 21 Arizona State 30, Oregon State 17: The Sun Devils led the reeling Beavers 20-10 entering the fourth quarter before finally putting OSU away for good with an interception return for a touchdown with just over five minutes left.  With 10 games in the books, ASU’s year essentially comes down to a one-game season: next Saturday against UCLA, with the opportunity to clinch the Pac-12 South on the line.

CFT TOP FIVE
A snapshot look at how my ballot would look Sunday if I, ya know, had a real vote instead of a measly and meaningless preseason poll.

1. Florida State — Yep, I finally pulled the trigger.  Here’s what you need to know about the Seminoles: the past six games against teams that are currently a combined 34-26, FSU has outscored those opponents 322-51.  From my vantage point in this corner of my mom’s basement, the ‘Noles are simply the best and most talented team in the game. (Last week: No. 2)
Next up: vs. Idaho

2. Alabama — Dropping the Tide was something I had been considering for the past three weeks, based solely on how FSU was playing.  Alabama’s sloppy 13-point win over Mississippi State added to how FSU continues to play allowed me to justify such a move in my own head. (Last week: No. 1)
Next up: vs. Chattanooga

3. Ohio State — When the polls come out this later this morning/early this afternoon, it would serve as a major shock if Baylor didn’t leapfrog the Buckeyes in all three of the major polls, including the two that are part of the BCS standings.  I won’t do that here, although watching the Buckeyes muddle through what should’ve been a game-long cakewalk against a really bad Illinois team had me at least considering it. (Last week: No. 3)
Next up: vs. Indiana

4. Baylor — The Bears’ idea of a close game is spotting its opponents the first 14 points, then outscoring them 63-20 the rest of the way to turn an upset alert into a blowout.  BU will likely face its stiffest of the season this weekend as they travel to Stillwater.  Maybe then we can all get a handle on just how good this team really is. (Last week: No. 4)
Next up: at No. 12 Oklahoma State

5. Missouri — Yes, you could’ve made the case for Auburn or Oregon or Clemson or Michigan State or Oklahoma State here, but the quality of the Tigers’ lone loss trumps every other team’s.  Auburn lost by double digits to three-loss LSU.  Oregon was dropped rather handily and easily by a Stanford team that’s lost to 4-6 Utah and USC, which fired its head coach before the first month of the season was in the books.  Clemson was taken to the woodshed by FSU.  Michigan State lost to a Notre Dame squad that’s currently unranked.  Oklahoma State lost to West Virginia, which lost in Week 12 to a Kansas team that hadn’t won a Big 12 games in three years.  Mizzou’s lone loss came in overtime to a ranked South Carolina and after it had taken a 17-0 lead into the fourth quarter before getting Connor Shaw‘d. (Last week: unranked)
Next up: at Ole Miss

(Dropped out: No. 5 Stanford)

HE SAID IT
“This team has the ‘It’ factor. That’s just the bottom line. … I told them a minute ago that I think we’re in the midst of something special.” — Auburn head coach Gus Malzahn, following the miraculous win over Georgia.

HE SAID IT, THE SEQUEL
“I think most teams would have folded or found a reason to quit but they didn’t do that. … I talked about being disciplined on and off the field. If your goal is to live a disciplined life, you’ll probably have a blessed life.” — Mark Richt, when asked what he said to his Georgia players following the heartbreaking loss to Auburn.

HELMET OF THE DAY
This may not be the most “hip” helmet in an era where the Oregons and Baylors of the college football world look to one-up each other on a seemingly weekly basis, but it’s certainly the most meaningful.  For its game against Ohio State Saturday, the Illinois players wore an understated tribute on their heads: a silhouette of the state of Illinois with 10 stars arranged in the shape of an “I” inside of it.  Those 10 stars represent the 10 football players who made the ultimate sacrifice serving our country in the armed forces, giving their lives in combat for our freedom.

Illini Tribute Helmet

Illini Combat Heroes

Well done, Illini.  Well done.

SAY WHAT?
As embarrassing as the loss was for West Virginia, it was an even bigger relief for Kansas.  The Jayhawks’ 31-19 win over the Mountaineers snapped a 27-game Big 12 losing streak that was the longest negative league streak among AQ schools.  Prior to Saturday afternoon, KU’s last conference win came on Nov. 6, 2010 against Colorado.  You had to go all the way back to Oct. 10, 2009 (Iowa State) for the Jayhawks’ last win over a current member of the conference.  Since playing in the Orange Bowl following the 2007 season and prior to the WVU win, KU had gone 6-42 in Big 12 play, with four of those wins coming in 2008.

TRUE STORY
Oklahoma’s 48-10 win over Iowa State was the 157th of Bob Stoops‘ career with the Sooners, tying Barry Switzer for the most wins in school history.  In 15 seasons, Stoops has gone 156-39 (.796); Switzer went 157-29-4 (.837) in 15 seasons.  In those 15 seasons under Switzer, the Sooners collected three national championships and won or shared 12 Big 8 titles.  In his 16 seasons, Stoops has laid claim to one BCS title and eight won or shared Big 12 championships.

FOR STATISTICAL PURPOSES ONLY

– The number of undefeated teams remained static from a week ago: Alabama, Florida State, Northern Illinois and Ohio State at 10-0, Baylor and Fresno State at 9-0.  The same held true on the other side of the won-loss ledger, with Georgia State, Hawaii, Miami of Ohio and Southern Miss at 0-10, and UConn at 0-9.  It should be noted that the Rainbow Warriors took San Diego State to overtime before remaining winless.

– While Andre Williams was impressive in rushing for 339 yards, he wasn’t the top ground performer in college football this weekend.  Not even close, actually.  D-III running back Cartel Brooks rushed for 465 yards, setting an all-division NCAA record in the process.  That record had been 455 yards… and was set just three weeks ago by D-III Western Connecticut’s Octavias McKoy.

Kapri Bibbs– Coming off a 312-yard, four-touchdown performance last weekend, Colorado State’s Kapri Bibbs ran for 291 yards and a program-record six touchdowns in the win over New Mexico.

Carlos Hyde ran for a career-high 246 yards and score five touchdowns (four rushing, one receiving) as Ohio State remained unbeaten on the season with a win over Illinois.

– The day of the running back continues as Kansas’ James Sims‘ 211 yards and three touchdowns helped the Jayhawks snap their lengthy Big 12 skid.

AJ McCarron set one Alabama record and tied another in the win over Mississippi State.  The senior now has 8,146 yards of total offense in his career, surpassing John Parker Wilson‘s 8,099 yards from 2005-08.  The win was also the 35th of his career, tying him with Jay Barker (1991-94) in that category.

– Cincinnati’s Brendon Kay threw for a career-best 405 yards and four TDs in the Bearcats’ 52-17 thumping of Rutgers.

Allen Robinson now has 78 catches on the season, breaking the Penn State record of 77 he set in 2012.

– Texas Tech began the 2013 season by winning its first seven games.  The last four games, all losses, the Red Raiders have been outscored 202-124.

– Alabama streak of seven straight wins by at least 21 points was snapped Saturday night.  The SEC record for consecutive wins by 21-plus points still belongs to Florida alone, which won eight straight such games in 2008.

James Franklin– Vanderbilt is bowl-eligible for the third straight season, the first time that’s happened in the football program’s history.

– Ole Miss totaled a school-record 751 yards of offense (382 passing, 369 rushing) as the Rebels waylaid Troy 51-21.

– In Clemson’s 55-31 throttling of Georgia Tech Thursday night, Tajh Boyd completed 20 of his 26 passes for 340 yards and four touchdowns.  The senior also added a rushing touchdown.  Boyd now has 97 career touchdown passes, breaking the mark of 95 previously held by North Carolina State’s Philip Rivers.

– For the fourth time in his career, Marshall’s Rakeem Cato passed for more than 400 yards (456) in a single game as the Herd got past Tulsa Thursday night, 45-34, to remain tied atop the Conference USA East standings with East Carolina.  The junior passed for 400 yards-plus three times in the first five games last season.

Jordan Lynch passed for 345 yards, ran for 123 more, tossed two touchdown passes and scored two on the ground as Northern Illinois remained unbeaten with their 48-27 win over Ball State Wednesday night.  It was the first time this season and third time in his career he’s passed for 300-plus and rushed for 100-plus in the same game, with one of those being a 400/100 game.

– Buffalo quarterback Joe Licata also passed for a career high 497 yards in the Bulls’ 51-41 loss to Toledo Tuesday night.  The sophomore’s previous career-high was 285 yards in a win over Western Michigan last November.

–  A dozen different Yellow Jackets were credited with at least one rushing attempt in the loss to Clemson, the seventh time in 10 contests this season run-heavy Georgia Tech has used double-digit ball carriers in a single game.

Marshall 75 HelmetIN CLOSING…
Say what you want about the negative headlines some college football players make for off-field escapades, but the vast majority of young men at this level of the game are good folk and quality people.  Case in point: the Marshall Thundering Herd.  Thursday night, Marshall debuted helmets that featured the number “75” on the left side, with that number honoring the 75 souls lost in the tragic plane crash on Nov. 14, 1970.  The plan was for the special helmet to be a one-shot deal.  However, the school announced via a press release Saturday that a decision has been made to wear the helmets for the remainder of the season… because the players requested that the tribute continue. “Remembering those 75 people isn’t about one day; it’s about a mentality here,” head coach Doc Holliday said.  More than anything, those Herd players showed that the memories of those who perished in that tragedy will not fade away with the passing of time.  And that the word “respect” still means something.

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20 Responses to “The Fifth Quarter: Week 12 Rewind”
  1. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 17, 2013 3:35 AM

    Very insightful and even-keeled column.

  2. chachooga says: Nov 17, 2013 8:15 AM

    THANK YOU FOR NOT PUTTING OREGON AT #5!!! in your projected top 5.

    Why is that the fave thing to do. I know they are fun and all. But they lost to Stanford who has now lost to USC & UTAH…..yes UTAH!!!!

    Mizzou is fine. As an ACC homer I think Clemson whose only loss is to FSU should be there. But they get South Carolina at the end of the year to prove it. Plus Duke is our darling this year, so that is that….like Baylor in Big 12…..when the lessers do well….well not much love.

    But I still do not get the Pac12 love?!?!?!?

  3. polegojim says: Nov 17, 2013 8:18 AM

    Thank you JT… and Desmond… for stressing what most Michigan fans have been saying for weeks, even well before MSU and Nebraska.

    It’s not working, period.

    If not Brady… Dave should force the issue firmly.

  4. cometkazie says: Nov 17, 2013 8:59 AM

    Over the years two teams that have always been a handful for LSU regardless of any ratings have been State and Kentucky. I think you will find that they are always a handful for the Tide, too.

    Nothing surprises me about playing those teams.

    The column today is well done, as usual.

  5. jpl9 says: Nov 17, 2013 10:05 AM

    Auburn’s win was caused by a defensive blunder, which allowed the receiver to catch the ball. Let’s save the miracle word for miracles.

  6. plarkin88 says: Nov 17, 2013 10:15 AM

    The Holgorson buyout is roughly $11M and since WVU doesn’t get a full share of Big12 money until 15/16, I don’t see a change if the University is on the hook for the cash.

    So when someone starts a website to raise the cash to pay the buyout, please post the link.

  7. drummerhoff says: Nov 17, 2013 10:55 AM

    Every November, alumni & fans conveniently start to blame the Headcoach because he didn’t live up to their expectations. It’s the easiest route to go because it requires no thinking, no analysis. If you root for a school with a “hot coach” and you are willingto challenge yourself, find out how many on your 2-deep are injured and can’t play. My school has 7 injuries on the defensive 2-deep. That results in a lot of inconsistent play … And there’s nothing a HC can do about a pile of broken bones and torn muscles.
    Sometimes bad things happen and there’s no one to blame … But that story doesn’t sell advertising space.

  8. raysfan1 says: Nov 17, 2013 11:07 AM

    The two coolest special helmets of the year are easily the Illini’s and Marshall’s. Extra credit to Marshall for keeping theirs the rest of the season. I hope it’s not a one-time deal for the Illini either.

    Note to everyone else that wants to do a special helmet/uniform–make it understated, make it fit into the traditional school colors, make it mean something.

  9. spacemaker101 says: Nov 17, 2013 11:43 AM

    Florida’s coaching staff goes mental during the games..

  10. longborer69 says: Nov 17, 2013 11:49 AM

    Stanford did indeed lose to UTAH!!!!

    They also have an 8-2 record against the second toughest schedule in college football (according to Sagarin). His normal ranking (not the dumb one he has to use for the BCS) has them rated 7th.

    The team with the toughest schedule is — Utah. Rated 26th, only 4-6 but against the most brutal schedule in the nation.

    Oregon’s schedule so far ranks as 35th toughest. If they make it to the conference championship, they’ll probably play ASU, who currently has the 6th toughest and is rated 6th.

    Oregon has beat Washington (12th, SOS 13) and UCLA (14th, SOS 15).

    The ACC stalwarts are FSU (1st, SOS 58th – LOL), Clemson (10th, SOS 45), and GT (27th, SOS 25).

    Sagarin rates UTAH!!! ahead of the third best ACC team.

    The PAC12 gets love because they actually played real out of conference opponents and beat some of them, unlike the ACC. They even played some of them on the road.

    The ACC’s OOC road wins consist of VT beating 8-2 East Carolina, Wake Forest beating 3-7 Army, Miami beating 2-7 USF, Duke beating 3-6 Memphis, and Maryland beating 0-9 Connecticut. Woohoo. Five road wins, one against a mid-major with a winning record, and four bad teams way below .500.

    The PAC has road wins against 7-3 Nebraska and 7-3 BYU. The ACC has NOTHING like that. Other road wins are Army, Illinois, Virginia, Colorado State, SDSU, UNLV, and Hawaii.

    BC (of the ACC) lost to FSU, Clemson, and USC. Ask them who beat them worse? LOL.

    You know what the best OOC win is for the ACC? Virginia beating BYU (LOLOLOL). But that helps Oregon as much as it does the ACC, as far as the computers are concerned, because Oregon beat Virginia.

    And Virginia did it at home. Utah beat BYU at BYU. Sure, they are just UTAH!!!! but they had a road win against a team rated 21 by Sagarin, and not one single team in the ACC has an OOC road win that even gets close to that.

  11. janessa31888 says: Nov 17, 2013 12:18 PM

    I’m a Buckeye fan and I think they should drop a spot after yesterdays game. Giving up 35 points to Illinois? Yikes.

  12. Deb says: Nov 17, 2013 12:24 PM

    Was thinking during church (yes, it is shameful) I’d be almost relieved if the Tide dropped to #2 this week. It’s a burden to carry that top ranking throughout the entire season. Better to drop because of an ugly win over a scrappy team than because of a late-season loss. Give the kids a reason to concentrate a little more and fight a little harder.

    Glad they’ve got Chattanooga rather than a bye before Auburn. They need to work on those mistakes.

  13. chachooga says: Nov 17, 2013 12:32 PM

    Hey Longboarder…

    the schedule strength is because of the love fest in the rankings. This is intentionally facetious, but convince me Stanford is better than Duke.

    ACC played 3 SEC powerhouses to open the year. Vtech lost to Bama, Clemson beat UGA and Miami beat UF. All before injuries and such. Take away the ACC losses for UGA and UF their seasons and rankings are different.

    That is SEC scheduling. Clemson plays South Carolina to end the year.

    Pipe down with your tough schedule talk. A loss to Utah by the best team in your conference is a joke, you can make yourself feel good however you want.

    Once again the bowl season record will be telling, as it is every year.

  14. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 17, 2013 1:45 PM

    janessa31888 says: Nov 17, 2013 12:18 PM

    I’m a Buckeye fan and I think they should drop a spot after yesterdays game. Giving up 35 points to Illinois? Yikes.
    ———————–

    Well, you are one of the few sensible ones.

  15. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 17, 2013 3:27 PM

    No one cares about SOS, eye test says the Noles are just head and shoulders better than anyone they face, and doing so unlike anyone else, including Alabama.

  16. classyjacklambert says: Nov 17, 2013 5:30 PM

    Longborer, Clemson beat a full strength Georgia at the beginning of the season… why didn’t you remember to include that in your argument?

  17. dkhhuey says: Nov 17, 2013 6:24 PM

    Yes – I see how this works! Baylor, who has a SOS weaker than OSU, struggles big time against an unranked team until the 3rd quarter and finally pours it on to a 63 – 34. Here, it is classified as overwhelming the opponent and a quality victory! OSU plays an unranked team, was never behind, and ends up blowing out Illinois by a 60 – 35 margin… that is a bad showing by OSU and we drop in the polls! Oh well, the Buckeyes will continue to take care of the business they can control and let the other bullshit play itself out!

  18. longborer69 says: Nov 17, 2013 7:05 PM

    chachooga, you do realize that Sagarin’s ratings are based on actual results on the field, not a “rankings lovefest,” don’t you? It’s based on on-field performance, actual wins and losses and wins and losses of opponents.

    Duke vs. Stanford. Yeah, that’s absurd. Look who they’ve beat. Look who they’ve lost to. Look who those teams have played. Look at the combined records of the teams they have played. Look at the combined records of the opponents of the teams they have played.

    Stanford has played teams with much, much better records than Duke. Stanford’s opponents played better teams than Duke’s opponents have played. Stanford’s opponents have quality wins. Duke’s opponents do not. Stanford plays no FCS team. Stanford plays 9 conference games. Duke plays 8, and makes up the difference with an FCS team.

    Stanford has 3 wins against teams with 2 or fewer losses. Duke has none.

    The PAC went 30-6 in out of conference play. The ACC is 35-11. Two of those losses were by our worst team (Cal). If we just look at FBS results, we are 21-5, you are 21-11. Who is better?

    Win three of your four remaining against USCe, UF, UGA, and Vandy, and you are in the ballpark. Win all four and I might disagree but I won’t even argue if you say you have the toughest conference.

    You might have the best team in the country, that remains to be seen, but your conference hasn’t done anywhere near what the PAC has done this year. If you think they have, you are delusional.

    And your Utah fixation is ignorant. They’ve beat two very good teams, one on the road. They beat Utah State when Keaton was healthy. They’ve lost by one and seven to teams with only two losses. They lost by three to a 6-4 team. They lost by two scores to an 8-3 team. They lost by two scores to a 6-4 team. They’ve been unlucky to lose so many close games, they are inconsistent, but they are a very dangerous team. Oregon beat them yesterday. They are far better than the Tennessee team that Oregon beat — and Tennessee beat USCe.

    A loss to Utah is not a good loss, but that kind of stuff happens to very good teams every year — a dangerous team plays their best game on the same day a very good team doesn’t play so well. It happened to FSU last year. It happened to Alabama against A&M last year. No way A&M was anywhere near as good as Bama, but they caught lightning in a bottle on the day. It happens to great teams.

  19. longborer69 says: Nov 17, 2013 7:06 PM

    @classy

  20. longborer69 says: Nov 17, 2013 7:09 PM

    @classy
    You are right. Clemson beating Georgia was a good win. But the computers don’t give credit for injuries. But Sagarin still has Georgia at 20, so that still counts as a good win. A home win, of course, so not as good as Utah winning at #21 BYU, but still a good win.

    It’s a shame about Georgia’s injuries, because who knows where they would have been? Florida wasn’t going to be that good this year anyway, but Georgia certainly might have been.

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