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Dismissed: Honey Badger no longer an LSU Tiger

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Wow.

Last season as one of the top defensive players in the country, Tyrann Mathieu was the only player from that side of the ball among the five finalists for the 2011 Heisman Trophy.

In what is nothing less than a shocking and significant development, the player nicknamed the Honey Badger will have no shot at repeating that feat or, more importantly, helping LSU defend its SEC title.

At a press conference Monday afternoon, head coach Les Miles announced that the All-American cornerback is no longer on the team after violating team policy.  What that specific violation was has yet to be revealed.

“This is a very difficult day for our team,” Miles said in a statement. “We lose a quality person, teammate and contributor to the program. However, with that being said, we have a standard that our players are held to and when that standard is not met, there are consequences.

“It’s hard because we all love Tyrann. We will do what we can as coaches, teammates, and friends to get him on a path where he can have success. We are going to miss him.”

Mathieu was one of three players suspended for one game last season, reportedly for failing a drug test.  The drug in question was allegedly synthetic marijuana.

Suffice to say, this is a huge blow for the Tigers, ranked No. 1 in the coaches’ poll and No. 4 in our attempt at preseason prognostication.  Already somewhat thin at the position thanks to the departure of fellow All-American corner Morris Claiborne, Mathieu’s departure leaves a gaping and inexperienced hole in the secondary.

Mathieu’s loss will also be felt on special teams.  Last season as a sophomore, Mathieu returned two punts for touchdowns and finished fourth in the nation in returns with a 15.6 average.

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  1. indywvu says: Aug 10, 2012 1:15 PM

    I’m not shocked at all. Kid is a cocky, egotistical a-hole and you can tell it in the way he carries himself. Luckily for him, the NFL has no standards on their players and will take anyone that can play the game.

  2. wvuandsteelers says: Aug 10, 2012 1:18 PM

    Unlike my fellow wvu fan, I won’t bash the kid. But all I can say is WOW. It will be interesting to see what said rule was he violated.

  3. fhuizar says: Aug 10, 2012 1:19 PM

    Sucks for LSU kid impacted a game in many different ways

    LSU will find a way to reload. They always do

  4. bubba9er says: Aug 10, 2012 1:19 PM

    Wow. The one thing that CAN stop a honey badger. Time to start the LSU investigation NCAA…

  5. Slim Charles says: Aug 10, 2012 1:19 PM

    Luckily for him, the NFL has no standards on their players and will take anyone that can play the game.

    ———————————————

    Yes, the NFL would be much better if they limited their rosters to timid, polite players who appeal to sanctimonious couch jockeys.

  6. thraiderskin says: Aug 10, 2012 1:20 PM

    WTF! I didn’t expect to read that headline today or any day. He obviously did something horribly wrong…

  7. southernpatriots says: Aug 10, 2012 1:21 PM

    This was a situation that has been a while in making. The coaching staff were working with Tyrann all along. Coach Miles has indicated privately that this was one of the hardest decisions he has ever had to make, but for the sake of the team, and in honor of fairness and equal expectations from all members, he notified Tyrann the decision would be made this way, if… and if Tyrann let if…. happen.

    No doubt this will effect LSU’s defense and team, however, it will affect Tyrann so much worse. I do not doubt that reporters will learn of the specifics and publish it, but Miles and his staff will not.

    Onward, forward, and keep going Tigers!

  8. timb12 says: Aug 10, 2012 1:22 PM

    Honey Badger don’t care.

  9. cubano76 says: Aug 10, 2012 1:24 PM

    Hey Honey Badger, I know you don’t smoke weed, I know this; but I’m gonna get you high today, ’cause it’s Friday; you ain’t got no team… and you ain’t got sh!t to do.

  10. rolltide510 says: Aug 10, 2012 1:24 PM

    This isn’t going to hurt LSU as bad as it might seem on the future. TM had a nose for the ball as a rover and was a great kick returner but his cool nickname and media hype masked the fact that in actual coverage he left a lot to be desired. LSU is DB U and whoever they have next in line is likely better.

  11. davebrownspiral says: Aug 10, 2012 1:25 PM

    From potential top 5-10 draft pick to 2nd round and later, I hope that was some awesome weed, because he just smoked away millions upon millions of dollars.

  12. raysfan1 says: Aug 10, 2012 1:27 PM

    He’s not eligible for the NFL until next year at soonest. He was just in the news over his use of Twitter yesterday, but I’m assuming he failed another drug test. Assuming he stays dismissed from the program, he needs to hurry up and hook up with an FCS school. He’s in line to become a very wealthy man, but he had better start making smarter decisions off the field. As it is, he’s already costing himself draft position and therefore money, a la Janoris Jenkins.

  13. chiadam says: Aug 10, 2012 1:29 PM

    What the **** do you have to do to get kicked out of the SEC?

    or

    Danica Patrick will now get kicked off her race team so she can steal something else from Mathieu.

    I couldn’t pick a joke there, so I’ll use both lanes.

  14. tlmoon2112 says: Aug 10, 2012 1:30 PM

    Nick Saban just had an orgasm

  15. neovenator250 says: Aug 10, 2012 1:32 PM

    This is of course a huge blow to the best team in the country. The Honey Badger just had an inexplicable ability to always be around the ball and be seconds away from making cray plays. LSU will reload at the CB position, but something definitely has been lost with this. More importantly, though, you have to have a LOT OF RESPECT for Les Miles for kicking his best player off the team. A lot of coaches wouldn’t have done this. This will put some discipline into the team, and hopefully this means we won’t see any more rule violations this year (like we had last year for the Auburn game)

  16. RockChalkMike says: Aug 10, 2012 1:35 PM

    Peter King says heroin use.

  17. thepancreas says: Aug 10, 2012 1:38 PM

    JT–solid job.

    Did you realize you beat ESPN routinely on stories? Solid job.

    Oh, and someone check in on Brent Musberger.

    How is he handling this news? It can’t be good.

  18. hoggette says: Aug 10, 2012 1:39 PM

    Ask Ryan Mallet if it doesn’t hurt you in the draft and his was just passed along rumors. Wanted to see a Knile Davis vs Mathieu matchup myself. Go Hogs!!

  19. bertenheim says: Aug 10, 2012 1:40 PM

    He’s a better college player than pro prospect. He cost himself $thousands, not $millions.

  20. bmceh says: Aug 10, 2012 1:45 PM

    Too bad for LSU, though I applaud Les Miles (for once) for doing the right thing.

    Now my beloved Huskies are smiling…especially “Teeth” Price, Kasen Williams, and co. However, LSU is crazy deep at every position so I don’t buy the “gaping and inexperienced hole in the secondary” statement.

  21. bangitfootball says: Aug 10, 2012 1:49 PM

    The HONEY BADGER takes what he wants!!!! Apparently that includes illegal drugs.

    The HONEY BADGER isnt one of natures smartest animals.

  22. ratedgap says: Aug 10, 2012 1:49 PM

    As an LSU fan, this absolutely blows. BLOWS!! Keep your head on right and you’re destined to make millions. And you blow it. Mmmmaaannn!!

    But I am proud of LSU as a school. This is the second high profile player LSU has been willing to part with in the Les Miles era. Ryan Perrilloux was the other. LSU more than likely would have repeated as BCS champs had Perrilloux remained the starting QB, but Miles had the stones to kick him off the team and take his licks with freshman Jarrett Lee and Harvard transfer Andrew Hatch. People talk about integrity at schools and all players accountable, and Les Miles walks it. Take notes.

  23. marcinhouston says: Aug 10, 2012 1:54 PM

    Maybe he took money from an agent and instead of covering it up like USC and Bama do, Miles reported it immediately and dismissed the player.

  24. charleslouis99 says: Aug 10, 2012 1:55 PM

    tryann mathieu= more or less the next janoris Jenkins

  25. surferone says: Aug 10, 2012 1:59 PM

    Can you please show where USC covered something up. I would direct you to the NCAA report which would be your least bias source for information. Oh well, your from houston so what can you expect – beautiful weather in the summer and winter there!

  26. latchbeam says: Aug 10, 2012 2:01 PM

    Im sure he’ll be reinstated to the team eventually… it is the SEC after all.

  27. gatordontplay says: Aug 10, 2012 2:05 PM

    Sob just ruined my $100 bet for lsu to win it all at 4/1 odds..

  28. cometkazie says: Aug 10, 2012 2:11 PM

    TM got larger than the game.

    Thanks, SP, for cluing us in. I’m looking forward to your future reports.

    Beautiful weather in Houston in the summer? Have you ever been there in the summer?

  29. cometkazie says: Aug 10, 2012 2:13 PM

    That last remark was tongue in cheek and the big grin did not show.

    Sorry.

  30. florida727 says: Aug 10, 2012 2:19 PM

    As a fan of good college football, I hate to see this happen, but you have to hand it to Miles for having the morals/ethics to boot one of his best player.

    LSU will miss him, but I agree with a previous post that said they might not miss him as much as some think. LSU is always loaded; that’s what makes playing them special. They don’t rebuild, they reload. It’ll be interesting at the end of the season to compare his replacement’s number to what he’d accomplished in the past. I think it’ll impact their special teams play more than their defense.

    Good luck to all Tiger fans, especially my “southernpatriots” friends.

  31. ukeone says: Aug 10, 2012 2:19 PM

    This is how you handle the THUGS who think they are better than the law. I’m not from LSU, but KUDOS to Les Miles for having the balls to drop this loser in the dumpster where he belongs! To the rest of the big name schools out therer who have the same problems: Drop all the ‘suspension’ bullshit period; develop a ‘zero-tolerance policy’ and kick these sorry asses off your respective teams and show them that if “you can’t be a man, go home to your momma and GROW-UP!” No 4 or 5 star thugster is worth the trouble, especially if he gets that school in a heap of trouble because of the stupid decisions he makes. It is a waste of time, effort, and especially the money that goes into the scholarships that these thugs are getting and aren’t going to use responsibly, anyway. Hand them over to the ones who ‘will work hard’ for it. Give it the ones who are real ‘team players’ for their schools. Make them ‘earn their stars’…otherwise, let those little boyz go home where they belong!

  32. muir6 says: Aug 10, 2012 2:22 PM

    Hypocritical if it’s weed, way too harsh of a penalty. No doubt Les smokes and a large percentage of the people holding him to judgment do too.

  33. muir6 says: Aug 10, 2012 2:23 PM

    Thugs tear boys! Jeez dude you smitten at home with your hood on and dick in hand loser

  34. southernpatriots says: Aug 10, 2012 2:24 PM

    cometkazie: Whew! We knew the great possibility of this coming, but we were believing (maybe hoping against hope) that Tyrann would do what he promised and do the right thing.

    There is much that could be said, but never will be said by Miles and his staff. They all really liked Tyrann. They knew his background and had a heart for the young man, and still do. They have promised to help him find another school and make the transition there.

    No player is beyond the rules. No player is bigger than the team in that sense. Miles makes this well known to all players and after the lengthy time from last year and working with Tyrann, everyone thought there would be no problems. Several grad. assistants have already given out the details it is thought, so I expect the media to hash all this out over the next week.

  35. mydixienormus says: Aug 10, 2012 2:26 PM

    Reminds me of that old adage.

    “That weed don’t smoke itself!”

  36. rsmeans says: Aug 10, 2012 2:27 PM

    I am an Alabama fan but do not feel his loss will have much if any affect on LSU. He appeared to be a highly dynamic player but mostly hype who Alabama exploited in the NC game. LSU will still be the team to beat if you aspire to win the NC. Their secondary may not be the best in the country but they will be in the top 5 in the secondary along with having the best defensive front in the country.

  37. cbass59 says: Aug 10, 2012 2:27 PM

    Penn State has a few openings.

  38. stairwayto7 says: Aug 10, 2012 2:37 PM

    Lack of institutional control! Start an investigation Mark Emmert! 3 YEAR BOWL BAN AND ALL WINS TAKEN AWAY SINCE HE PLAYED THERE!

  39. ballparkfranks says: Aug 10, 2012 2:39 PM

    This is the worst news I’ve heard since I found out Sponge Bob was gay. OK, Mathews is gone…so what!!!! Les is DEEEEEEP on defense! Sure it sucks, but individuals make individual decisions, whatever the consequences. I graduated from LSU and bleed purple and gold! I respect integrity more than talent. Kudos Les!!!!

  40. arizonapetdoctor says: Aug 10, 2012 2:40 PM

    To the comment regarding that if it was weed the expulsion off of the team was way too harsh, I strongly disagree. Not because I think that there is anything particularly wrong with smoking weed, but rather that if there are rules in place that are known by the player, and they choose to break them, then consequences should be dealt. If those consequences were discussed before and included being kicked off of the team, and the player continues to break the rule (what ever rule it may be) then the team must not be very important to the player

  41. rolltide510 says: Aug 10, 2012 2:42 PM

    tlmoon2112 says:
    Aug 10, 2012 1:30 PM
    Nick Saban just had an orgasm

    ^^^^

    Nick Saban’s probably pretty disappointed. Just when he figured out the way to beat LSU is to target Mathieu in man coverage on every pass and mix in just enough runs to keep the defenders close to the line Les has to go and replace him with an actual cover corner.

  42. mrslay1 says: Aug 10, 2012 2:44 PM

    Razorbacks lost Knile Davis (SEC #1 running back the year before, Broke ancle) last year about this time and eneded up #5 in the country. LSU will be fine with their talent!

  43. parkcityute says: Aug 10, 2012 2:44 PM

    stairwayto7:

    Why are you so bitter? Oh, yeah, I forgot…you are a Penn State fanny.

    Take your posts and just copy and paste, since you say the same thing over and over.

    My sympathies to LSU fans. I did not admire your coach before, but I do now. Wish all teams had coaches like that, instead of covering up and lying about it.

  44. gs7101 says: Aug 10, 2012 2:51 PM

    I wouldn’t count out Mathieu from being reinstated on the team this year. It wouldn’t be the first time a college player was dismissed from the team and later returned. A violation of team policy can be anything, so I’m not closing the book on his career at LSU — not just yet!

  45. tlmoon2112 says: Aug 10, 2012 2:52 PM

    @rolltide510 No offense but that sounds like a bunch of bovine excrement to me. Nick Saban will win by any means necessary, and I do mean ANY means necessary and everyone knows it. Dirty coach, dirty school. Just my opinion and last time I checked, Saban/Slive and the NCAA hadnt come to take my 1st Amendment rights away yet so Im entitled to it.

    Before I forget, I hear Harvey Updyke is having a Klan meeting at Toomer’s Corner tonight in case you didnt get the memo.

  46. Deb says: Aug 10, 2012 2:55 PM

    Total. Shock. Read the headline three times before clicking on the story. Whatever the reasons, this is heartbreaking news for a tremendously talented player.

    Last season I was furious with Mathieu during Alabama’s game when he took out Kirpatrick with a dirty hit. But then I learned about Tyrann’s difficult upbringing. It doesn’t excuse the hit, but it does explain a lot about Mathieu and gave me more empathy for his disciplinary issues. Going from rock bottom to NCAA superstar overnight would play with your head. I’m sure this has been a difficult situation for Coach Miles and the entire team. I pray Mathieu will work out his issues and be able to someday reach his full potential in the NFL.

  47. deanmarkley says: Aug 10, 2012 3:00 PM

    Looks like LSU is not exercising the proper oversight in this case. Perhaps they should be banned from bowls for 4 years and lose scholarships?

  48. Deb says: Aug 10, 2012 3:01 PM

    @tlmoon2112 …

    Still braying, I see. No, there’s no law against it. Well … libel. But you’d have to use your real name for that. Personally, I love the sound of bitter rivals on the football blog. It’s a validation of our success. ROLL TIDE!!! :D

  49. jmb795 says: Aug 10, 2012 3:03 PM

    Strike three, you’re out according to NCAA rules.
    Schools have no wiggle room.

  50. tlmoon2112 says: Aug 10, 2012 3:04 PM

    @Deb if you call paying your way into a championship “success” that is.

  51. ukeone says: Aug 10, 2012 3:10 PM

    Arizonapetdoctor made a great point. Les Miles needs to be commended not only for having the decency & integrity of getting rid of this thug, but also for putting LSU ‘1st!’ Mathieu made bad decisions that were good for him; but in doing so, he obviously didn’t care at all for LSU. That’s important for all LSU fans to realize: that he may have been good on the playing field, but he ‘sucked as a person’ because he was willing to do harm to LSU and all the good players and fans that stay within the boundaries of decency, fairplay and teamwork. Face it, he was completely sellfish and not a ‘team player’, and that ‘ticking-time-bomb’ would have eventually spelled BIG-trouble for a 1st class school like LSU.

  52. tide4life says: Aug 10, 2012 3:13 PM

    @tlmoon2112-
    Man, all those bitter herbs . . . you’d think it was Passover.

  53. muir6 says: Aug 10, 2012 3:19 PM

    The rules are antiquated and wrong, too heavy handed.

  54. bw1980 says: Aug 10, 2012 3:19 PM

    Engaging in a bit of logical deduction, though we know we won’t be able to identify the reason for his dismissal, we can eliminate some reasons:

    1. It’s the SEC so we know it’s not for grades, which are second or third priority in the south.
    2. It’s the SEC so we know it’s not for a misdemeanor or a petty felony.
    3. It’s the SEC so we know it’s not for any moral or ethical issues that are not illegal but highly questionable.

    So we know some reasons that cannot be the source of his dismissal. It will be interesting to see what possible reason, knowing what we do, that Les Miles would have to dismiss a “quality person” from his team.

  55. tlmoon2112 says: Aug 10, 2012 3:31 PM

    @tide4life – check this link out boss – since you only got an Alabama education, I will explain it to you. Look at this link:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BCS_National_Championship_Game

    Take note that your team’s entry in the chart is the ONLY entry that doesnt designate your team as a conference winner. THE ENTIRE GAME OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS EFFECTED BY THIS PROBLEM. “How so” you ask?…answer: the “BCS Championship Game” (supposedly for “champions”) has been cheapened….its no longer a “championship”….its a chUmpionship. Its like a prostitute that pretends her wedding night is her first time and the groom thinks its is too. The guy suspects something is not right eventually but isnt sure and goes into denial while everyone else watching is in horror when the information is revealed to them. The whole thing, start to finish…..the relationship, the courtship, the wedding….the marriage… is all cheapened because its based on a lie.

    THIS IS NOT ABOUT MY TEAM, its about THE GAME. The integrity of the game has been lost because of this and the only way to get it back is by having playoffs. Slive knows this too which is why he spearheaded an effort to get playoffs in place going forward. I also suspect it helps him cover up any under-the-table favors he may or may not have gotten from Saban for talking the NCAA into this mess in the first place. I assure you of this, Im FAR more concerned about the integrity of the game then I am your crystal ball that was dropped and shattered into a million pieces by some redneck. Even if MY team (and LSU is NOT my team) were in this position I would be saying the same thing….you didnt win your conference, you dont rate to be there….PERIOD. I love THE GAME. I can’t say the same thing about MOST of the Alabama fans I run into on a daily basis. Theyre more like Raider fans wearing red.

    Again, Im entitled to my opinion…make fun of it all you like….at the end of the day I love THE GAME and I dont care about your collection of crystal balls. I want the game to reflect a true Champion, not a CHUMPION.

  56. sintaxair says: Aug 10, 2012 3:31 PM

    He failed another drug test. I don’t see him making it in the NFL, a 5’7 corner with a history of drug problems doesn’t sound very appealing.

  57. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: Aug 10, 2012 3:42 PM

    C’mon folks!!! It’s too early for April’s fool !!!

  58. frug says: Aug 10, 2012 3:43 PM

    If this is for a third failed drug test than HB will prohibited from playing at any NCAA school, regardless of division (I-A, I-AA, II or III) for one year. That means NAIA or sitting out.

    If this was drug related I hope it was good stuff because he probably cost a few million dollars.

  59. 1974gator says: Aug 10, 2012 3:48 PM

    bw1980 are you always so clueless? Read the previous posts prior to commenting. Word is he was doing heroine. Unless you live in Never Neverland your football conference is just as susceptible to this kind of “baby duck” behavior as we are in the SEC.

  60. rolltide510 says: Aug 10, 2012 3:49 PM

    “tlmoon2112 says:
    Aug 10, 2012 2:52 PM
    @rolltide510 No offense but that sounds like a bunch of bovine excrement to me. Nick Saban will win by any means necessary, and I do mean ANY means necessary and everyone knows it. Dirty coach, dirty school. Just my opinion and last time I checked, Saban/Slive and the NCAA hadnt come to take my 1st Amendment rights away yet so Im entitled to it.

    Before I forget, I hear Harvey Updyke is having a Klan meeting at Toomer’s Corner tonight in case you didnt get the memo.”

    Whoooooah somebody’s really upset that his team sucks.

  61. tide4life says: Aug 10, 2012 3:59 PM

    little moon man has some serious envy issues, eh? Well, we’re used to it in the SEC.

  62. Deb says: Aug 10, 2012 4:01 PM

    @tlmoon2112 …

    I know people who genuinely believe humans have never walked on the moon and the X Files is based on actual FBI cases. Doesn’t make it true. National championship participants have always been based on ranking. When we lost to #1 by a FG in OT–after dominating the game in the stats–we lost our #2 ranking. We would not have participated in the championship game if other teams had stepped up and made use of their opportunity. But one by one they feel to lesser schools by greater margins and we climbed back up in the polls. No payment was involved.

    As I said before, only a fool doesn’t understand the payout for the conference of having two teams in the title game. Nick didn’t have to crack his wallet. And I seriously doubt LSU took a 21-0 dive.

    You’re a Bama hater and a poor sport. I get that. It’s not like I haven’t seen it before. I’ve been a Tide fan since birth, and have lived and died with the Pittsburgh Steelers for 35 years. Dealing with petty idiots like you is the tradeoff for being wedded to programs with so much history … and so many, many trophies. I’ll live.

    But I am sad about the reaction to my post on Tyrann Mathieu. He’s a kid who’s had a very hard life. I don’t care if his hell is of his own making. People could still have some compassion. We’ve all made mistakes, and he’s lost everything. There but by the grace of God …

  63. koufaxmitzvah says: Aug 10, 2012 4:05 PM

    Seriously doubt he got caught smoking weed. Synthetic weed is far from the real thing, and more like the whole bath salts phenomenon.

    I’m guessing it’s hard drugs: cocaine, speed, heroine, etc.

    Weed, at most, is as much a gateway drug as alcohol is. But I will place myself as Exhibit A that folks who smoke weed– and I mean, really smoke weed– tend to not do anything else.

    Weed is G-d’s way of saying, “I know. It’s okay.”

  64. omniusprime says: Aug 10, 2012 4:13 PM

    The honey badger isn’t so sweet now, huh LSU fans? Stupid idiot deserves to get booted off the team after smoking synthetic marijuana instead of the real natural deal. Good to see LSU have a bad day, can’t wait to see LSU get ripped on the field.
    Go USC #1!

  65. nightman13 says: Aug 10, 2012 4:14 PM

    What a shock.

    The SEC has standards that players are held to?

  66. barbeaux says: Aug 10, 2012 4:17 PM

    Was LSU still on probation? I mean did they have a choice to boot him?

  67. tlmoon2112 says: Aug 10, 2012 4:17 PM

    @Deb says: “and so many, many trophies. I’ll live.”

    Right because you dont give a crap about the integrity of the game. All you care about is trophies. It doesnt matter to you HOW you win as long as you win. The fact that you lost by a FG in OT bares no weight on the subject because you didnt win your conference, PERIOD. You dont know that there wasnt money passed along but hell, we’re supposed to believe that there wasnt any despite the fact that the SEC stood to make a gazzilion bucks off having 2 teams in the game…..but “Nick didnt have to crack his wallet”….uh huh ok;)

    The BCS was put in place to fix the very problem you identified….which is losing and then working your way back up in the polls only to end up in a game you dont rate to be in. Had you done that in the pre-BCS 90s, you’d have a legitimate argument and Id have even been rooting for you as a fellow SEC person but unfortunately, you only prove that the BCS is flawed and Mike Slive is suspect….which means your not really champions…you were selected. Im not a poor sport, you just dont like being called out on truth. Im surrounded by college football fans everyday, we talk football an awful lot and the only folks who think Bama should have been in that game are Bama fans, that is fact.

    We agree on 1 thing, I hope that whatever happened with Tyrann can get fixed and he can turn it around. We need legitimately great players playing, that helps the game and the conference. I care way more about the integrity of the game then anything else.

  68. minier827 says: Aug 10, 2012 4:32 PM

    guess The Honey Badger should’ve cared…

  69. rexthor says: Aug 10, 2012 4:36 PM

    tlmoon2112, did you even read the wiki page you linked? Show me where Oklahoma 2003 shows they were conference champs? I’ll check back in a bit…hater

  70. steveohho says: Aug 10, 2012 4:41 PM

    You know they will just replace him with some other thug and this will all be forgotten.

  71. muir6 says: Aug 10, 2012 5:01 PM

    Instead of writing thug have the balls to write what you really mean

  72. trollhammer20 says: Aug 10, 2012 5:15 PM

    With the eighteenth pick of the second round in the 2013 NFL draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select, Tyrann Mathieu, cornerback, Southeast Arkansas State.

  73. Deb says: Aug 10, 2012 5:17 PM

    @tlmoon2112 …

    I care very much about the history and integrity of both the pro and college games. There is no rule that a team which didn’t win its conference can’t participate in the title game. Alabama earned its spot in the title game by achieving the #2 ranking. And the Tide most certainly earned the title with a definitive performance in that game, allowing its opponent only one foray across midfield.

    You’re very obviously a shrieking bad sport, and getting agreement from your circle of friends doesn’t change that. Living in Florida, I have friends from across the country who support a variety of teams and conferences. They aren’t whining and talk about Alabama’s decisive performance in that game. Of course, my friends are adults.

    It’s common practice on blogs for poor sports to scream “cheaters” at the winning teams regardless of the circumstances. That’s just not my schtick. When LSU beat us in the regular season, I congratulated them, talked up their performance, made no excuses for Alabama, and wished LSU well. When Green Bay beat Pittsburgh in SBXLV, I did the same. I’m proud of my teams win or lose and wouldn’t insult my coaches and players by whining and ranting the way you’re doing. It’s called sportsmanship. But I’m not terribly surprised that you don’t get it.

    At any rate, you and your friends enjoy the rants. The trophy will remain in Tuscaloosa, and I will remain extremely proud of the performance that earned it.

  74. mrpowers88 says: Aug 10, 2012 5:26 PM

    Stop calling him Janoris Jenkins.

    Janoris Jenkins has kids with multiple women and actually has an arrest record- his last arrest (for actual marijuana possession) came after he didn’t declare early for the draft and weeks after he got a new coach at Florida.

    Tyrann Mathieu failed 3 drug tests for substances sold legally as “synthetic” weed. Stupid? Yes, but not on the same level as Jenkins

  75. kozbee says: Aug 10, 2012 5:32 PM

    LSU has great depth,sure they will miss him but the Tigers always have a way to fill the spot.Dam dopehead…

  76. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Aug 10, 2012 5:58 PM

    WOW! I did a double take when I read the headline. You have to admire Les Miles for putting team rules above team wins. Too bad Jim Tressel didn’t have the moral fiber to dismiss Pryor.

  77. southernpatriots says: Aug 10, 2012 6:07 PM

    brutusbuckeye2011:

    My friends in and near Columbus telephoned me earlier when the story orginally broke and expressed the same sentiments. They did not care much for Les Miles before because he was a Michigan player/coach, but said now they admire him. Best to you and all Buckeye fans this year!

    (I have been experimenting with various natural peanut butters and chocolates for a new “chocolate Buckeye” recipe)

  78. psunick says: Aug 10, 2012 6:28 PM

    Nah, dj…he’d never fit in with us.

    Our football team…hell, the entire school and all the alumni…are a bunch of rapists and child molesters, remember?

  79. roltyd says: Aug 10, 2012 6:32 PM

    Must’ve been some damn good weed, to throw away a potential top-round draft pick opportunity in the NFL. His stock will drop faster than a rock from a rooftop.

  80. roltyd says: Aug 10, 2012 6:37 PM

    @ omniusprime:

    Typical statement from a pre-pubescent condom lover. Trojans aren’t the only penile covers, just the most vocal. You guys should know probation terms by chapter and verse.

  81. suprmous says: Aug 10, 2012 6:58 PM

    For what it’s worth each and every one of you naysayers should’ve grown up and walked in Tyrann’s shoes growin up. The kid didn’t stand a chance of makin anything of himself until he got to LSU and found acceptance. True, Coaches worked with him players and fans as well as those same coaches came to admire his abilities as a player. He stumbled along the way and yet folks still didn’t give up on him. It wasn’t until the straw that broke the camel’s back so to speak that his World started to change once again. Why, only he knows and he does realize that hes kissed away a career that he so wanted. Rather than judge him have some compassion for him. Is that really too much to ask? People make mistakes everyday, none of us are perfect. Right now Tyrann needs prayer and even if it comes from one at least it’ll be from somebody who has a heart and won’t judge him,

  82. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: Aug 10, 2012 7:42 PM

    Damn Tyrann!!! Was definitely one of my favorite player… He was so damn easy to root for.. Anyway I’m still rooting for you buddy! Whatever the demon it is that you’re fighting I hope you beat it soon or some help, don’t let it ultimately bring you down. You’re still young, and opportunities are still around.., good Luck and God Bless!!!!

  83. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: Aug 10, 2012 7:43 PM

    @Deb…
    It’s easier to talk to a wall..

  84. 1955marine says: Aug 10, 2012 8:06 PM

    It is very disturbing that people try to use his back ground as an excuse for his behavior. @suprmous: When you offer up excuses for the young man it only makes the problem worse. Few people have ever had a rougher up bringing than me and my ten brothers and sisters. Life was rough but none of us would have thrown away his opportunities like he has and if we did we would not want your miserable excuses. As long as you are willing to make excuses for him, he will continue to have the same behavior. You are part of the problem.
    And as far as the NFL goes, he is to small and will get his but kicked. At best he is a special teams player. Fourth round or later when you are only 5′ 7″ tall. Small corners can’t compete in the NFL with the tall receivers in the game today. And if it is Heroin he was using he will never get the chance at all. I wish him luck only in straightening his life out. If he can get it together everything else will take care of itself. NO EXCUSES!

  85. cometkazie says: Aug 10, 2012 8:33 PM

    There is a difference in enabling and being responsible. It looks as if Tyrann got to a hurdle and couldn’t get over it.

    I feel real sure he has been coached in personal responsibility, but it didn’t take, and that is his fault.

  86. Deb says: Aug 10, 2012 8:42 PM

    @thecrazyasian …

    So true. Some day I’ll learn to stop wasting my keystrokes … maybe ;) So so sorry about you guys losing Tyrann. The team will survive, of course. But it breaks my heart for him.

  87. Deb says: Aug 10, 2012 8:53 PM

    @1955marine …

    Those of us who are expressing compassion for Mathieu are not excusing his mistakes. Yes, he has to take responsibility for his actions–that’s why Coach Miles has dismissed him from the team. But I lived nearly four years in a ghetto while writing about a military conflict in that region. Children from that kind of poverty, deprivation, and violence have so much more to overcome than children from an average middle-class home.

    Yes, they have to abide by the same rules as everyone else. But they have to fight many more demons to do it. That’s why some of us have deeper feeling for kids from these backgrounds who get so close to the brass ring only to fall back into old traps. He does need our prayers more than our condemnation.

  88. cometkazie says: Aug 10, 2012 9:11 PM

    The name calling says more about the name callers that it does about Tyrann.

    It will be interesting to see how well he does without the supporting cast.

    Bad judgement does not make a kid bad.

    My 2¢.

  89. hoggette says: Aug 10, 2012 9:11 PM

    Question? Is this about Miles integrity or the NCAA 3 strikes your out? Understand it would have been hard to his with his boasting on twitter accounts?

  90. suprmous says: Aug 10, 2012 10:33 PM

    marine1955, I just got thru readin an article I’d send to ya if I knew your email addy, it’s called the Healing Power of Compassion. I firmly believe if you were to read it, hell if any of you naysayers were to read it you might feel bettah bout yourselves and othas. It definitely be an eye opener. I won’t apologize for my feelings because the Good Lord’s the one that gave em to me and taught me what it is to care about my fellow man, something clearly a lot of others don’t know how. Holy Mary Mother of Jesus I’m sorry that you and your brothers and sistahs had it so bad but did you ever stop to think somebody could’ve had it worse than you. I’d be willin to bet Tyrann came close. Every time I think of what he went thru I end up with tears welling up in my eyes and a broken heart. Nobody deserved what he was in. Folks have called him arrogant. That’s not him, not at all. He’s still that scared l’il boy who’s doin the wrong things mixed with the right things to get attention to hide his fears. So hang me tar and feather me but that won’t stop me from bein a carin person.

  91. cometkazie says: Aug 10, 2012 10:41 PM

    I’m hearing from down in the Lower Wetlands that the rumor of a transfer to McNeese State is false.

  92. alligatorsnapper says: Aug 11, 2012 12:06 AM

    McNeese State is in my region of the state. As of 8 pm tonight, the word is that Cowboys head Coach Matt Viator has said Tyrann or any family member or representative has communicated with the school. Not yet, anyway.

    McNeese is brought up for various reasons which appear to make it appropriate, but there are numerous other schools and successful FCS football programs to which he can transfer and play without sitting out a year.

  93. suprmous says: Aug 11, 2012 1:20 AM

    1955marine, I failed to ask you somethin when I was writin earlier. As you were sayin Tyrann would never make it bein 5’7″ how do you explain Sproles with the Saints? Last time I saw him up close and in my 3′ of Personal Space he was definitely under 6′ and almost at eye level with me and I’m vertically challenged at 5’5″.

  94. alligatorsnapper says: Aug 11, 2012 7:26 AM

    My last post should read: “Tyrann…has NOT communicated with the school {McNeese State}.”

    Late post, very tired, still am, but thanks for the thumbs up. I have a friend who works at McNeese and he will text me if Tyrann communicates and/or is accepted there.

  95. acieu says: Aug 11, 2012 8:03 AM

    As they said to JoePa when he left PSU bye.

  96. cometkazie says: Aug 11, 2012 8:16 AM

    Or he could go to whatever they call Northeastern in Monroe now.

    They beat ‘Bama in the fairly recent past.

  97. 1historian says: Aug 11, 2012 11:15 AM

    suprmous – Sprols plays offense. Mathieu plays defense – he is 5’7″. Can you imagine him trying to cover da Gronk, who is 6’6″ and weighs 265 lbs?

    Ain’t happenin’

  98. southernpatriots says: Aug 11, 2012 1:01 PM

    cometkazie:

    COMETKAZIE! You have made my day…I am still laughing.

    Louisiana Normal School? (that is what they were called, before the name change to Northwestern State) the one LSU played with its third string and fourth string just to keep from running up the score? I think they are coached by a former assistant to Les Miles. The alma mater of Bobby Hebert, father of TBob Hebert of LSU.

    “They beat ‘Bama in the fairly recent past.” That line may get you in trouble with the many Bama fans who troll these threads to find anything they think is negative against Bama or Saban. It is funny and true and thank you for reminding me.

    What do you think about all the controversy surrounding LoLo at the Olympics with other female runners criticizing her and some NY idiot writing that she is all fluff and no substance?

  99. cometkazie says: Aug 11, 2012 2:48 PM

    The good ‘Bama fans far outweigh the bloviating dullards.

    ULM 21 ‘Bama 14, November 17th 2007 in Tuscaloosa, Nick Saban coach.

    I know Lolo from track meets and practices. She is a very nice young lady who has had an excellent career.

    I remember between her graduation and initial success with the 60m indoor championship, she was virtually penniless, yet when she won the outstanding Iowan athlete of the year, she donated the prize to flood victims up there. She will always be a classy lady in my book. Too bad she hit the hurdle in the last games. She accepts full responsibility for it.

    I have come across a lot of really nice people officiating track and field and Lolo is one of them.

  100. Deb says: Aug 11, 2012 3:33 PM

    @1historian …

    Posted this on another thread last night:

    For those who keep saying that Mathieu, at 5’7″, is too short to play defensive back in the NFL, these come to mind …

    Antoine Winfield, 5’9″, All-Pro & Pro Bowl corner for the Vikes.

    Jim Leonhard, strong safety, 5’8″. An undrafted rookie w/Buffalo, he recorded 51 tackles in one season despite a calf injury and is the team’s sixth leading tackler; he just signed with Denver.

    Bob Sanders, 5’8″, All-Pro & Pro Bowl strong safety, both an AFC and an NFL Defensive Player of the Year.
    ————————————————–

    Although Mathieu and the guys I’ve mentioned are below-average height, it’s not unusual for DBs to be shorter than receivers to give them a speed edge. What he lacks in vertical advantage, he can make up in speed, tenacity, ball instinct, and hard hitting. Is he an NFL long shot, especially now? Yes. Is it impossible … no. And he could switch to another position. He’s also an excellent return specialist. He could make a squad as a special-teamer, which is how Sproles–at 5’6″–made his name.

  101. brutusbuckeye2011 says: Aug 11, 2012 4:26 PM

    @ southernpatriots:
    Good luck on your season and your experiments with Buckeyes. Try adding Rice Krispies to the peanut butter.

  102. southernpatriots says: Aug 11, 2012 5:15 PM

    brutusbuckeye2011:

    Thank you. I had never considered Rice Krispies but I see where that will help eliminate a problem I was having with the natural peanut butter packing too much. I have to complete this experiment and hopefully come up with a better recipe, then make a large batch and then make several batches of New Orleans All Natural Pecan Pralines and box it all up by tomorrow night, for my flight out to Cleveland Clinic first and then to Los Angeles to Cedars-Sinai.

    It appears lung transplant operations will be scheduled for three of “our” children at both hospitals. When I was younger, I strongly considered enterring the specialty of surgery, but I don’t think I would ever have wanted to do a double lung transplant on a child. It is the most demanding surgery I have ever witnessed, and though I been with dozens of children who had this operation over the years, it never gets any easier.

    This situation with Tyrann has really affected the coaching staff at LSU. Les Miles broke down at a scheduled news conference, other coaches were seen avoiding cameras and reporters and wiping their red eyes.

    Thanks again for your well wishes. I particularly need them through the TSA at airports, which always has been a challenge.

  103. alligatorsnapper says: Aug 11, 2012 6:45 PM

    southernpatriots: Have a great trip! If you ever need anything, just call.

    cometkazie: I wanted to post earlier but work prevented it. Northwestern State has a main campus in Natchitoches, and other branches (nursing in Shreveport, and other campuses in Leesville/Fort Polk and Alexandria), but none in Monroe. Just in case some “Demons” are monitoring.

    I think you were thinking of Louisiana Tech. “LA Tech is the only team from a non-AQ conference to defeat an SEC champion in the BCS era as the Bulldogs defeated Alabama in 1999.” LA Tech is located in Ruston, LA and produced Terry Bradshaw among other NFL greats.

  104. cometkazie says: Aug 11, 2012 7:19 PM

    ‘Snapper. I grew up in Shreveport. My dad taught at Centenary and I made all the basketball games and was the ballboy for three years in the early ’50s. I ranked!

    I think it was the Gulf Coast Conference and they had Tech, Northeast, Northwest, Southeast, Southwest, McNeese, and at one time Springhill, so that is how I know the schools.

    A late friend, his son and grandson went to SLI, USL, ULL, three different generations, three different college names, same school.

    I was referring to the Nov. 17, 2007 where NE beat ‘Bama in Tuscaloosa 21-14. I had completely forgotten about the Tech game. They rose up and smited the Mighty Tide, too.

    Good for competition.

    Terry was several years behind me.

  105. thecrazyasianinseccountry says: Aug 11, 2012 9:52 PM

    Honey Badger will make the NFL .. I’ll guarantee it!! I’m willing to bet your left EYE on it!!
    Look at our boy Trent Holliday…, what was he ? 5’5 at a buck fifty wet!
    What Honey Badger wants, he’s going to get..
    Like I said I’m rooting for!! God Bless!!

  106. Deb says: Aug 11, 2012 10:10 PM

    @alligatorsnapper …

    You’re correct because Alabama was the SEC Champion that year, and your post refers specifically to beating the conference champ. However, as a Steelers fan, I can forgive LA Tech a lot :) But we also lost to Louisiana-Monroe–and LSU–in 2007, among others. It wasn’t a good year for us with the Bayou teams.

    @cometkazie …

    Smited? Come on, we’re not the Philistines–and not so mighty in 2007 :)

  107. Deb says: Aug 11, 2012 10:11 PM

    Is Eric Reid still with LSU or did he graduate?

  108. cometkazie says: Aug 11, 2012 10:25 PM

    Eric is a junior this season.

    Sometimes I have to enforce a little bit of humility. (bg). I do root for the Tide, right after the Bayou Bengals.

    Another Bulldog was inducted into the pro hall of fame this year, Willie Roaf.

  109. Deb says: Aug 11, 2012 10:43 PM

    @cometkazie …

    Do you really? Wow … yet another way you are a rare man on these blogs :)

    I really don’t root for anyone other than Bama and Pittsburgh with any regularity. I back the SEC in general. One thing I love about the NFL is that you always know where you stand relative to the playoffs, so I watch all the games I can and always root based on what’s in Pittsburgh’s best interest–and you’d be surprised at the dots I can connect when it comes to finding Pittsburgh’s interests. Or I’ll root for our ex-coaches and players as long as they left us on good terms. After that, I’ll root for teams where favorite Bama players wound up.

    I really thought Reid’s INT in our regular-season meeting was the play of the game. At first I didn’t think it was an interception, but then realized the NCAA was playing by NFL rules. Hate that rule, but it is what it is. The simple fact is that Reid showed an instinct for the ball–then he fought for it. He fought harder than our receiver. He made that play happen, and that was the game-winner. That kind of hustle really impresses me. He didn’t get much notice with Claiborne and Mathieu on the roster. I hope he’ll get a chance to really shine this year (just not against us ;) )

  110. thegeneral7694 says: Aug 12, 2012 1:11 AM

    tlmoon: Integrity of the game? If that’s what you care about, why aren’t you railing about the Tattoo Five being allowed to play in the Sugar Bowl year before last? Why aren’t you railing about Scam Newton and his “eligibility by uber-technicality”? And if you’re being consistent, what about Nebraska 2001 and Oklahoma 2003? Neither of them won their conference titles, but they played in the BCS title game. Only difference is those teams lost and Bama won.

  111. alligatorsnapper says: Aug 12, 2012 11:19 AM

    Southernpatriots is preparing to depart, but his granddaughter emailed me and I learned some of the following to add to my sources:

    Tyrann Matthieu is considering these following schools at this time:

    1.Tyrann Mathieu visited McNeese State and is considering transferring to the Southland Conference school located in Lake Charles, La., about 200 miles from his hometown of New Orleans, McNeese State Coach Matt Viator confirmed. I would like that since it is in my backyard and I will get season tickets the moment I hear. I understand fans living near other schools he is considering are poised to purchase season tickets immediately upon confirmation.

    2. New Orleans media outlets are reporting these following schools are being considered by Tyrann:

    Bethune-Cookman … McNeese State, Nicholls State, Southeastern Louisiana, and Grambling State …

    My hope is that Tyrann will not only keep the deep sorrow he has expressed for his poor decisions, but will seek and receive help for his problem and advice on his transfer. He knows that the coaching staff of LSU will do all they can to assist a smooth transfer.

  112. 2suave4u says: Aug 12, 2012 2:25 PM

    He has done wrong and has been punished as the LSU athletic program saw fit. Say what you want but he was a major factor when he was on the field. (Punt Returns, Tackles, Interceptions and Turn-Overs etc….) Why do people keep bashing him? He’s young and I’m sure that we all have done stupid things at one point in our lives or another, but seems that the ppl commenting in here feel that he should be Crucified for what ever it is that he did! We all know why that is but I won’t go there in this post. Sure LSU has more talent on It’s Roster but none of you can deny the fact that he is a good player!

  113. materialman80 says: Aug 14, 2012 2:48 PM

    Huge blow to LSU football. If you like football, you like watching him play. I hope he turns things around for himself. He’s the only one who can. Young men make mistakes. Hopefully you learn from them and move on.

  114. stevet321 says: Aug 16, 2012 11:14 AM

    Everbody make mistakes…Everybody.

    This round its going to cost him. Alot.

    Coach showed integrity. Good Job.

    Personally, I hope he can recover and find an alternate route to pro football, in whatever league, in the future. He’s got the skills, but needs better focus and drive.

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