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Franco Harris blasts JoePa’s firing

Joe Paterno, Franco Harris, Lydell Mitchell AP

After playing for Joe Paterno from 1969-1971, Franco Harris has remained staunchly loyal to his former head coach in the ensuing decades.

Despite the circumstances surrounding Paterno’s firing late Wednesday night, the former Nittany Lion and Pittsburgh Steelers running back, Harris remains a very vocal supporter of the former head coach.  In fact, Harris may be even more resolute now in that support than he was prior to the events that came to light exactly a week ago today.

In an interview with Kevin Gorman of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, the NFL Hall of Famer blasted his alma mater’s Board of Trustees for their decision to fire Paterno.  In Harris’ mind, the decision amounted to nothing more than making Paterno a scapegoat for a deeper institutional issue.

“I feel that the board made a bad decision in letting Joe Paterno go,” Harris told the Tribune-Review. “I’m very disappointed in their decision. I thought they showed no courage, not to back someone who really needed it at the time. They were saying the football program under Joe was at fault.

“They really wouldn’t give a reason. They’re linking the football program to the scandal and, possibly, the cover up. That’s very disturbing to me. … I think there should be no connection to the football program, only in the case that it happened at the football building with an ex-coach. I’m still trying to find out who gave him access to the building, who signed that contract.”

Harris also questioned those who have stated Paterno and others had a moral obligation to go beyond the letter of the law and report the sexual abuse of a child, including the Pennsylvania state police commissioner.

“When I heard that, it blew my mind,” Harris said. “Why would they bring the moral into the legal? Now, everyone gets to interpret in their own way. That’s what really bothers me: Joe did what was right for him to do. He forwarded the information to his superiors. That’s the legal procedure at Penn State.

“If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time.”

Harris is free to parse the legal and moral obligations of all who had knowledge of the allegations, but we’re guessing that the eight — or morealleged victims would have a different interpretation.

There’s nothing wrong with supporting your former coach, especially one as storied as Paterno.  There’s also nothing wrong with stating that, based on the information contained in the grand jury’s report, he’s culpable morally for sitting down when he should’ve been standing up for the victims.  Hell, even the coach himself recognizes that.

I wish I had done more,” Paterno said in a statement announcing, before his firing, his retirement at season’s end.

Even hallowed legends have lapses in judgment, with the lapse in this case setting off a string of unintended but nonetheless tragic consequences for children who might have been kept from becoming victims of an alleged pedophile.  If Harris can’t see that, well, that’s on him and his blind loyalty.

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  1. rendadoll says: Nov 11, 2011 11:37 AM

    The entire BOARD should FIRE themselves, but before they do, Fire Mike McQuearey.

    The prisoners will take care of Sandusky.

  2. pricecube says: Nov 11, 2011 11:45 AM

    “I’m very disappointed in their decision. I thought they showed no courage, not to back someone who really needed it at the time.”

    That is exactly the way I feel about Paterno, McQueary and everyone else at Penn State who knew about what was going on and did not tell the authorities. I just don’t understand how anyone doesn’t see that.

  3. savocabol1 says: Nov 11, 2011 11:47 AM

    Anyone who thinks JoePa shouldn’t have been fired over this is ignorant.

  4. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 11:47 AM

    Here is the chronology regarding Sandusky and who did what when. Read the damned thing…every word of it before any of you spew anymore ignorance…

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/09/penn-state-scandal-timeline-jerry-sandusky_n_1084204.html

  5. John Taylor says: Nov 11, 2011 11:51 AM

    @harleyspoon: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf

  6. giablommi says: Nov 11, 2011 11:51 AM

    “I’m still trying to find out who gave him access to the building, who signed that contract.”
    ^^^^^
    Harris brings up a good point here. Connecting the dots it seems obvious that the powers that be at Penn St knew of Sandusky’s deviant perversions and likely forced him out at the end of 1999. Did JoePa have a say in this? Who knows.

    But yet as part of his retirement package, he was given full access to Penn St facilities? For what? Can’t imagine that was JoePa’s doing or his name was on that contract, common sense dictates that had to have come from the AD and/or president.

    Paterno has moral wrongdoing here but not as much as those higher up the chain.

  7. rhew1232 says: Nov 11, 2011 11:53 AM

    Hey Franco if it was your son or grandchild then what would you think? – if it was JoePa’s you can bet this would have ended in 2002-

  8. whyalwaysthehate says: Nov 11, 2011 11:57 AM

    Tanko needs an immaculate reception of sense. And I thought LaVar was bad. Although Matt Millen with the “this is a divisive issue ” comment might be the most lame of all. All the pedophiles and Matt step to one side, victims and everyone else to the other.

  9. pricecube says: Nov 11, 2011 12:02 PM

    @harley

    How, in God’s name, do you think that chronology you linked to exonerates anyone of a moral responsibility to contact the authorities in this matter? I mean that is just common sense.

  10. psuravens19 says: Nov 11, 2011 12:05 PM

    As a PSU Alum this is a very sad story and unfortunately believe the BOT made the right choice. However, I think they should have just cleaned house with anyone involved, not just Joe and Spanier.

    Joe is being turned into the villain in this case, which should not be happening at all. I’m smart enough to know that he will get the brunt of it, because of his stature. Should he have done more, sure; but how do we know he didn’t try and everything was just getting covered up by others.

    IMO, this is going to be much larger than anyone can imagine and I think Joe was given a gag order. We will see how this all turns out, so I will wait to make judgements.

  11. cappa662 says: Nov 11, 2011 12:05 PM

    I think Franco Harris has had one too many concussions. Wow. I can no longer look at Franco Harris in the same light ever again. He comes off as a complete jerk and is ONLY looking out for the Penn State football program (and Joe Paterno). What a jerk.

  12. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 12:06 PM

    Read it all price..You haven’t had time…McQuearey told the people who had oversight over the Campus Police…Therefore, the campus police knew…

    Joe told the authorities what he had heard..He could not tell them what he had seen because had seen nothing…

    Obviously, price, you only read the headline…and, if you read anything else, you read it with a closed mind…and I guess that’s typical of people who love to be in the bliss of purposeful ignorance…

  13. mvp43 says: Nov 11, 2011 12:11 PM

    “They really wouldn’t give a reason. They’re linking the football program to the scandal and, possibly, the cover up. That’s very disturbing to me. … I think there should be no connection to the football program, only in the case that it happened at the football building with an ex-coach. I’m still trying to find out who gave him access to the building, who signed that contract.”

    ————————————-

    Okay Franco, whatever. Firing Paterno is disturbing to you! anything else about this story seem disturbing to you?

  14. mldean71 says: Nov 11, 2011 12:13 PM

    JoePa should have been allowed to finish the season. JoePa got fired over HEARSAY! JoePa didnt witness the crime, McQuearey is the individual that saw the crime take place with his own EYES. McQuearey in turn TOLD JoePa what he witness. JoePa inturn went and told his AD what McQuearey said(HEARSAY) he witnessed. The part that gets me upset is that the person that FAIL to render AIDE still has his JOB, while JoePa who was the messenger has been FIRED!

  15. pricecube says: Nov 11, 2011 12:13 PM

    @harley

    By “authorities” I did not mean the campus police. I meant the real police. If a coworker says to me, “I just saw Mike from accounts receivable raping a a ten year old boy in the bathroom”, I am not going to take it to HR or company building security… I am going to call the cops… IMMEDIATELY. If this had happened anywhere along that chronology/timeline we would have had a better outcome. Don’t you agree with that?

  16. jhumbe says: Nov 11, 2011 12:14 PM

    harley… Joe DID NOT tell the proper authorities.

    Instead he colluded with his Penn State colleagues to enable this monster continue raping and pillaging for years and years to come. What is so difficult to understand about that?

    There is NOTHING that can vindicate this simple set of facts….

    Paterno knew of Sandusky’s actions and allowed him to continue with obvious knowledge that he was not prosecuted.

  17. haroldoftherocks says: Nov 11, 2011 12:19 PM

    When did Franco lose his mind?

    “They were saying the football program under Joe was at fault.”

    Is “they” the Grand Jury, Franco? “They” are making a damn good case that the football program is deeply involved and most likely at fault.

    “ They’re linking the football program to the scandal and, possibly, the cover up.

    Franco, the only reason “they” are linking the football program is because of the overwhelming evidence that points to Sandusky, PSU Football facilites, and the PSU football employees who looked the otherway.

    “I think there should be no connection to the football program, only in the case that it happened at the football building with an ex-coach.”

    Wait, you can’t possibly be that dumb to say something like this in public.

    “I’m still trying to find out who gave him access to the building, who signed that contract.”

    OMG, you are that dumb.

  18. rexachss says: Nov 11, 2011 12:23 PM

    Franco you were a great back on a great team…but…..are you kidding me! !!!!!!!!!

  19. dkhhuey says: Nov 11, 2011 12:25 PM

    If it comes out that the coward McQueary actually told Joe Pa that he saw Sandusky anally raping a 10 year old, then Joe Pa deserves what he gets. If Joe Pa stopped him before he got the fine grained details and called Curly to start the process and he never did hear that actual anal rape occurred, then Joe Pa got the shaft.

    Regardless of the above, the person who still makes me nauseous is the coward McQueary. The SECOND he learned that nothing was going to be done to Sandusky, outside of getting slapped on the wrist with ‘don’t bring your victims on campus with you’, he should have picked up the phone and called the authorities. No question, no justification, no excuse! He absolutely saw Sandusky butt f@#$ing a 10 year old kid and when it was obviously the Penn State brass white washed it into horse play and swept it under the rug – he, for the second time, took the cowardly route, shut his mouth, and spent the next 10 years reaping the rewards as more and more children got violated, molested, and raped.

    Sandusky is the ultimate in cowardly behavior and is one of the most vile on the planet. The fact that he has been able to sleep at night and keep his mouth shut for the last 10 years is a big illustration of it. God I hope karma gets its revenge on this scumbag.

  20. orthomarine says: Nov 11, 2011 12:26 PM

    Guilty by association……

  21. uhemi says: Nov 11, 2011 12:27 PM

    I would love to see all of these people who are complaining about Joe being fired react if it was one of their kids. Really stupid for anyone to think that Joe was completely unaware of what was going on.

  22. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 12:34 PM

    The “real” police had been involved since 1999….

    Jihumbe, it is obvious you can’t read…Or that you choose to remain ignorant….and that is your problem…

    Joe did not give or tale away the keys to the facilities Sandusky used….and you can bet that Joe didn’t use those facilities either…

    You spend too much time assuming and guessing and too little time reading and getting the facts…That is the trait of most Americans who refuse to seek knowledge because they might find it…and in finding knowledge, their excuse for stupidity and the bliss of purposeful ignorance would be gone!!

  23. jhumbe says: Nov 11, 2011 12:42 PM

    “If Joe Pa stopped him before he got the fine grained details and called Curly to start the process and he never did hear that actual anal rape occurred, then Joe Pa got the shaft.”

    Why the hell would you stop someone from providing details to a crime that is this serious? All that is doing is looking the other way to avoid having to take any responsibility!! That does not exonnerate anything.

    Furthermore, that is not the case… read page 7 of the grand jury report… it clearly states that Paterno admitted to the grand jury that McQueary provided the fact that Sandusky did something of a sexual nature to a 10 year old boy in the shower.

    While I do not believe the details stopped there, that is ENOUGH to make sure that guy never saw that light of the free world. Yet Paterno stood around and saw this guy frolicking about campus for the next decade.

  24. mvp43 says: Nov 11, 2011 12:42 PM

    mldean71 says:
    Nov 11, 2011 12:13 PM
    JoePa should have been allowed to finish the season. JoePa got fired over HEARSAY! JoePa didnt witness the crime, McQuearey is the individual that saw the crime take place with his own EYES. McQuearey in turn TOLD JoePa what he witness. JoePa inturn went and told his AD what McQuearey said(HEARSAY) he witnessed. The part that gets me upset is that the person that FAIL to render AIDE still has his JOB, while JoePa who was the messenger has been FIRED!

    ——————————————————-
    Paterno got fired because he turned the other way. We’re not talking about selling jerseys you dope, we’re talking child abuse! They all need to be fired.

    If that “messenger” as you call him heard the words Boy, shower and coach in the same sentence and didn’t follow up, and just dropped it……..HE DESERVES TO BE FIRED.

  25. John Taylor says: Nov 11, 2011 12:42 PM

    If it were McQueary’s son he witnessed being sodomized by Sandusky, would he have reacted differently?

    If it were Paterno’s son or grandson being sodomized by Sandusky, would JoePa have reacted differently?

    If the answers to those questions are yes, then they were morally wrong for how they handled the situation. A child is a child, regardless of whether he’s your own or someone else’s.

  26. rubbernilly says: Nov 11, 2011 12:46 PM

    @ harley, @ dkhhuey,

    JoePa knew enough. There is no question, based on the Grand Jury report, that he knew enough that he should have taken action. Read my comment here for the evisceration of the “But JoePa Didn’t Know Anything” defense:

    http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/10/paterno-reportedly-hires-high-powered-d-c-attorney/#comment-63123

    As for why McQueary is still around… I’m with a lot of the people on this board: he should be fired. However, I heard a legal opinion this morning (I think on “1st and 10″) that the university *can’t* fire him (at least right now), because he is a witness to a crime. If they fired him now, they open themselves up to charges that the firing was actually motivated by some desire for “payback” against McQueary not keeping his mouth shut, or as some sort of intimidation of a witness.

    Maybe that’s true. If so, they need to drop the guy as soon as the situation resolves. Or drop him as part of cleaning out the WHOLE program at the end of the season, firing all the coaches, so there is cover against the stuff I described above.

  27. jhumbe says: Nov 11, 2011 12:47 PM

    harleyspoon, it is obvious you can’t read because the 2002 rape that had an eye witness was reported to Paterno and subsequently never relayed to the police. what is so hard to understand about that?

    who gives a s*&* that the police were involved at one point in 1999? you think gives paterno a right to completely ignore all hideous criminal acts from that point forward just because they looked into one prior incident that they didn’t have enough evidence to prosecute???

  28. jhumbe says: Nov 11, 2011 12:50 PM

    “Joe did not give or tale away the keys to the facilities Sandusky used….and you can bet that Joe didn’t use those facilities either…”

    If you honestly believe JOE FREAKIN PATERNO did not have such authority at PENN STATE UNIVERSITY, you are hopeless.

  29. harbourimages says: Nov 11, 2011 12:52 PM

    What is Franco Harris smoking? He says:

    “I think there should be no connection to the football program, only in the case that it happened at the football building with an ex-coach.”

    Let’s see…

    + At least one of this monster’s little boys was RAPED in the FOOTBALL building.

    + A 28 year old FOOTBALL COACH witnessed the rape and did not try to stop it nor did he insure it was reported to the police.

    + An ex-PSU FOOTBALL coach is the alleged rapist.

    + This cretin had access to the FOOTBALL building, up to and including LAST WEEK!!!

    + Joe Pa made no attempts to follow-up on this outrageous criminal act.

    Yeah, sure, Franco… it had nothing to do with football at PSU. Obviously, you were subjected to too many helmet-to-helmet hits in your career, because your brain seems to be no longer functioning properly. Also, I noted there was not ONE MENTION of these poor kid victims in your rant. How can anyone with a college degree just “not get it” regarding these atrocities? Incredible. Yes, Paterno is a great man. Not questioning that, although this morality lapse has certainly tarnished his sainthood, but to say this scandal had “nothing to do with football” at Penn State is simply moronic….

  30. deadeye says: Nov 11, 2011 12:57 PM

    Let’s examine the statements of Franco Harris:

    “I feel that the board made a bad decision in letting Joe Paterno go, I’m very disappointed in their decision.”
    ============================
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I would like for someone who shares this opinion to explain precisely who was harmed by firing Paterno. And the explanation needs to contain more than vague generalities about feelings and respecting past accomplishments. I can point to the dozens (and possibly hundreds) of victims who were violently abused under Paterno’s watch. Enabling child molesters by covering, up and allowing them to roam freely in school facilities is justification for getting fired 100% of the time.

    “I thought they showed no courage, not to back someone who really needed it at the time.”
    ============================
    It takes courage to make an unpopular decision. And judging by the resulting student riots and the reaction of the announcement, their decision was very unpopular. Furthermore, their loyalty should operate in this order: the victims, the university, JoePa. Loyalty to JoePa above all else is what got the university into this mess.

    “They were saying the football program under Joe was at fault.”
    ============================
    Franco is correct in this statement, and they are correct in saying it. JoePa had final authority on all football related decisions. Yes Franco, this mess was largely JoePa’s fault.

    “They really wouldn’t give a reason.”
    ============================
    Wrong, they said it was in the best interests for PSU. See the order of loyalty list above.

    “They’re linking the football program to the scandal and, possibly, the cover up.”
    ============================
    I disagree with this. They aren’t linking it, this scandal was joined to the football program at the hip, long before their decision was made. This is because the perpetrator worked in the program for 23 years, used football facilites to commit his crimes before and after his employment, and had his crimes covered up by JoePa and the other football personel who remained silent. The football program CANNOT be separated from the scandal.

    “That’s very disturbing to me.”
    ============================
    Get your priorities straight Franco. The crime and cover-up are 10,000 times more disturbing than the BoT response to it.

    “I think there should be no connection to the football program, only in the case that it happened at the football building with an ex-coach.”
    ============================
    Wrong, it happened during his employment as a coach as well. Additionally many of the people who remained silent are still employed in the program, thus it’s still connected.

    “I’m still trying to find out who gave him access to the building, who signed that contract.”
    ============================
    That obviously is important information, but do you understand Franco that JoePa could have nixed Sandusky’s access at any point? He had the final say on everything that went on there.

    “Why would they bring the moral into the legal?”
    ============================
    That’s not happening. The police are prosecuting based strictly on legal. Everyone else is free to act on what they believe to be moral. The Nazi’s at Nuremberg defended themselves by saying they were following orders. Any culture that wants to rely strictly on the law to govern behavior will end up just like them. Don’t go there Franco, everyone has a higher moral obligation than just the law.

    “Now, everyone gets to interpret in their own way. That’s what really bothers me: Joe did what was right for him to do.”
    ============================
    That’s the problem Franco. Due to his pride and a desire to protect his reputation and legacy, he covered-up for Sandusky. He had absolute power on that campus, and it ultimately corrupted him to the point where he enabled a child molester. He should not have done what was right in his own eyes, he should have done what was simply right.

    “He forwarded the information to his superiors. That’s the legal procedure at Penn State.”
    ============================
    He’s not being prosecuted on that basis. Of course for those incapable of rational thought, it’s always a valid defense to say “But it’s legal.”

    “If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time.”
    ============================
    I would have agreed with this exactly one week ago.

  31. katanaguy says: Nov 11, 2011 12:58 PM

    Yada, Yada, Yada. We all will never know the real truth here even under sworn testimony. Now its money time- From here on in its all about these people losing all their money or making alot of money as in the attorneys and the parents of these kids. Pretty simple and pretty sick.

    …and wait till they find some juice about some of these “trustees”….oooooh my. Hi ya Pandora.

  32. Deb says: Nov 11, 2011 1:00 PM

    Franco’s suffering the same hero worship infecting a lot of other people, further inflamed by his friendship with Paterno. People cannot imagine the person they’ve known or put on a pedestal for all or most of their lives would turn a blind eye to child rape.

    The issue is simple. Paterno has admitted he was informed of a child rape on campus and did not call local law enforcement.

    Is he the equal of Sandusky? NO.
    Is he solely to blame for failing to report this? NO.
    Was he deliberately covering for Sandusky or just negligent? We don’t know.
    Did he cover up Sandusky’s activities before 2002? We don’t know.
    Was he a conspirator or a bumbler? We don’t know.

    But failing to tell local law enforcement about a crime of that magnitude was irresponsible for a leader in his position. His employers have a right to dismiss him based on that alone.

  33. soflatrojan says: Nov 11, 2011 1:01 PM

    Based on performance alone he should have been fired a long time ago.

  34. dkhhuey says: Nov 11, 2011 1:14 PM

    @jhumbe

    What I was attempting opine was there exists a very small possibility (very small), that perhaps Joe Pa, upon hearing McQueary begin to describe what he saw in the shower that Joe Pa realized it needed to be escalated immediately, and stopped him from continuing on. Therefore, Joe Pa k
    new Sandusky was in the shower fondling a 10 year old (which could have been where he stopped McQueary) that that was all he heard. It sorta makes sense because from what I’ve read, Joe Pa did not testify that he knew Sandusky was engaging in anal sex and didn’t know that until after he read the transcripts. He testified that there was inappropriate activity going on. So, if Joe Pa really never grasp the full gravity of the situation because he escalated it immediately, then, IMO, he got run out of town unfairly. However, if he did know the full extent of the activity in the shower, then he lied to the Grand Jury and covered it up and he deserves everything he gets.

    Again, all long shots but it does explain the differences in the testimony between Joe Pa and McQueary

  35. lemmam says: Nov 11, 2011 1:23 PM

    franco harris – your comment is stupid if not moronic

  36. vikeme says: Nov 11, 2011 1:23 PM

    I don’t care if Joe Pa was simply told Sandusky was showering with a 10 year old boy without further details. Read that outloud – Showering with a 10 year old boy. Once he receives that information, Joe Pa as a human being has the obligation to protect that child from Sandusky. He clearly did not do that. He was fired b/c he is accountable as head coach. Based on his inactions, he does not deserve to represent the university as its head coach. With positions like Head Coaches/CEOs/Etc, you have a higher responsibility and you are held accountable for your actions/inactions. This story is now about Joe Pa, when it should be about the victims. They are faceless and should remain so, but that is a big reason people like Franco cannot see beyond their own stupidity.

  37. fockers2009 says: Nov 11, 2011 1:25 PM

    Either Harris hasn;t carefully read the chronolgy or he just really doesn’t get it. Sad.

  38. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 1:25 PM

    To understand Joe Paterno and care about the victims of Sandusky are things not mutually inconsistent…

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/45254478/ns/sports-college_football/

    The mother was infuriated…Why didn’t she report Sandusky and file charges?

    Why didn’t the school report the matter to authorities?

    The “real” law knew about this so why didn’t the law investigate and arrest Sandusky?

    And don’t say Joe was so powerful that he could keep the Mama from doing what she should have done or keep the school from doing what it should have done or keep the police and DA from doing what they should have done.

    No, to hysterical lynch mobs like some of you in here, it is easier to vent on an easy scapegoat than it is to think a little more and come to hard conclusions rather than easy ones…

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/45254478/ns/sports-college_football/

    It is obvious that a lot of people knew more than Joe…and it is more than obvious that the “real” police knew, as far back as 1999, that evil was occurring…

    The above article and the previous chronology I have provided explains it all…Joe did go to the proper authority from his perspective. McQuearey talked to the people who oversee the Campus Police–which are “real” police…They carry guns, the wear badges, they are trained and certified law enforcement officers…and they are also obligated to go to the DA with information about child abuse of any kind…to single out Paterno as the devil incarnate is to be idiotic…

  39. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 1:28 PM

    fockers2009, it seems obvious that you haven’t read the chronology at all…and you probably haven’t read this either (all you have to do is click on the little blue link and the stories will come up on your screen):

    To understand Joe Paterno and care about the victims of Sandusky are things not mutually inconsistent…

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/45254478/ns/sports-college_football/

    The mother was infuriated…Why didn’t she report Sandusky and file charges?

    Why didn’t the school report the matter to authorities?

    The law knew about this so why didn’t the law arrest Sandusky?

    And don’t say Joe was so powerful that he could keep the Mama from doing what she should have done or keep the school from doing what it shouls have done or keep the police and DA from doing what they should have done.

    No, to hysterical lynch mobs like some of you in here, it is easier to vent on an easy scapegoat than it is to think a little more and come to hard conclusions rather than easy ones…

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/45254478/ns/sports-college_football/

  40. jalbs says: Nov 11, 2011 1:36 PM

    Joe Paterno was only a damn football coach…he didn’t cure cancer, he didn’t broker world peace, and he doesn’t walk on water (although some people think he does). The pedestal that this man has been put on is laughable and sad at the same time. This quote from him yesterday says everything:

    “pray a little bit for those victims.”

    Gee Joe thanks for the concern and sympathy. Joe Paterno knew exactly what was going on and he’s known for many many years. There isn’t anything going on at Penn State that Joe didn’t know. If you think otherwise then you’re as naive as they come. The brass showed up at his door 6 years ago to tell him they were going to replace him as coach. Six years later at age 84 he was still coaching…you tell me who held all of the power at Penn St.

    Sandusky abruptly retires in 1999 in the same year he is named assistant coach of the year???? At age 55??? He couldn’t be more in line for a head coaching job yet he abruptly retires. And because he knew that the powers that be at Penn State knew what he was doing he parlayed that into Penn State giving him emeritus status and many many perks. All of the powers that be had testified in grand jury testimony awhile ago yet Sandusky was on campus last week working out. Let’s get serious here about how pervasive the cover up is. It all starts with Joe. If Joe didn’t want someone on campus that person wouldn’t be there. To still allow Sandusky campus access as recent as last week says everything. They all freaking knew and did NOTHING while he continued to victimize boys.

    Other than Sandusky, my most severe scorn is reserved for McQueary. He witnesses probably the most heinous act anyone can witness yet he doesn’t call the police; he doesn’t intervene. Here is the time line of what happened that night:

    1. At about 9:30 on Friday night he witnesses a 10 year old boy being raped in the shower by Sandusky.

    2. He doesn’t intervene. He doesn’t even say anything.

    3. He doesn’t call 911. He doesn’t call campus police. He doesn’t even call Paterno. He goes back to his office and calls his dad.

    4. After talking to his dad, he doesn’t call 911, he doesn’t call campus police, he doesn’t do anything. He just leaves campus and waits until the following morning to call Paterno.

    So the next day he finally notifies someone other than his father. That someone isn’t the police, it’s his boss. As an analogy, if you walk in on a VP performing this heinous act you don’t call the President of the portion of the company that oversees $50+ million in profits and would stand to lose everything if this is revealed. You call the damn police and if they don’t act then you contact the media. Actually before that you beat the perpetrator into a bloody pulp and save the boy. McQueary is cowardly pond scum.

    Does anyone honestly think that this ends here? This is just the tip of the iceberg. My stance is that McQueary, Paterno, Spanier, Schultz, and Curley should be charged as accessories after-the-fact and they should also be charged with conspiracy. Tom Bradley may be the interim coach for now but he and the rest of the staff also have to go. He’s been there 33 years so he had to have heard about Sandusky as well. As brazen as Sandusky was I guarantee law enforcement, local politicians, donors, alumni, and family members of administrators also knew. Meanwhile he was given free rein to victimize boys year after year. Evil at its worst, all in the name of Penn State football.

    Paterno has 17 grandkids. If one of his grandkids had been a victim would he have turned a blind eye or expected anyone else to? Let’s not forget about the victims in all of this. It’s about time they are made a priority.

  41. vanmorrissey says: Nov 11, 2011 1:38 PM

    @giablommi, I believe he being a tenured member of the staff, was allowed office space and use of the facilities. It may have been standard practice amongst any and all universities. But as has been stated, the minute it gets out he was showering with young boys, that is just aberrant. Who showers with boys, it gets reported to police, and nothing happens? Seems like a total coverup or look the other way and pretending it never happened when in fact it did happen, it can’t and should not go away, and now it’s time to pay the consequences. And Franco, just shut up, it appears you’ve landed on your head too many times.

  42. vikeme says: Nov 11, 2011 1:44 PM

    @ harleyspoon…There are no hard conclusions from this story. Anyone involved that knew what happened and didn’t put a stop to it – like get Sandusky imprisoned – should be relieved of their duties. This is very similar to the Catholic Church tragedy. Everyone involved clearly was trying to protect the football program and school. The PSU police force needs to be held responsible if they did not fully investigate the matter. Clean house. It’s got to be done. There has got to a cover up from the top to the bottom and all parties that were involved need to go. It’s the only way to prevent this from happening again. It’s easy to say Joe Pa did his job and reported the issue to his boss. Did that stop Sandusky from torturing other youths? No. So what he did was not enough, but he’s not the only responsibility party. Big Red’s got to go as well. The school’s investigation (if done properly by a third party) will unveil what happened and then they can fire everyone involved. But any info that is known at this point to get rid of those involved should be used and has been. If Joe Pa is the man everyone wants to believe he is, then he would have taken care of the situation and protected that kid and the other kids that were injured.

  43. pastabelly says: Nov 11, 2011 1:44 PM

    Harris is just stupid if he really believes that Penn States rules supersede the law. People who enable child molestors are scum. The people in power at Penn State were flat out responsible for the raping of children. If I were in any way associated with Penn State, I would be ashamed of that leadership. The Governor, or as Harris refers to him as a “politician” showed something that Paterno doesn’t have. That’s courage and a moral compass. I really don’t want to hear from any dumb jocks on this issue. Hall of Fame statistics don’t qualify you as an expert on the character of the sleaze they call “JoePa.”

  44. wakiash says: Nov 11, 2011 1:51 PM

    Franco, you just dropped off of my list of most admired athletes. How can you condone the sexual abuse of a child? Paterno, knowingly or unknowingly was complicit in years of abuse, and should be fired for incompetence if nothing else.

  45. pastabelly says: Nov 11, 2011 1:52 PM

    Jerry Sandusky, who as a former assistant to Penn State coach Joe Paterno formed the foundation called The Second Mile in 1977, used its events to meet young boys he later sexually abused, according to a grand-jury report released Nov. 5 by the Pennsylvania Attorney General’s office.

    Paterno absolutely knew that Sandusky set up this foundation and had direct involvement with children. JoePa knew at the time that Sandusky was a child rapist and he provided him with a venue at the university to rape more children. How can anyone not be outraged?

  46. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 1:53 PM

    And what in the hell qualifies you, beerbelly (pastabelly) as an expert on “the sleaze of ‘JoePa’”???? It is obvious you don’t care that law enforcement knew already about the situation long, long ago…so did the current DA…and they didn’t do anything…

    Just click on the little blue link, if you have brains enough to…and then read what it says–if you are capable:

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/45254478/ns/sports-college_football/

    You have a chronology and you have a recent story regarding the boy’s Mama and the “real” police…And facts don’t seem to dent your thick skull…You are nothing more than a ranting lynch mob clown…

    again..just click on the little blue link, if you can (but in order to gain some knowledge and perspective, you actually have to be able to read):

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/09/penn-state-scandal-timeline-jerry-sandusky_n_1084204.html

  47. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 1:57 PM

    Oh, and beergut (pastabelly), how in the hell do you know what JoePa knew…It is obvious that you don’t even know what you think you know….re he following blather:

    Your words: “Paterno absolutely knew that Sandusky set up this foundation and had direct involvement with children. JoePa knew at the time that Sandusky was a child rapist and he provided him with a venue at the university to rape more children. How can anyone not be outraged?”

    Just because the “real police” new, doesn’t mean Joe knew….But, apparently you think you are the great “knower” and the “oracle of the ages”…

  48. thefiesty1 says: Nov 11, 2011 2:00 PM

    Loyalty is a fickle thing. What else do you expect from a Penn State lifer? Some people just never get it, no matter how bad it gets.

  49. jhumbe says: Nov 11, 2011 2:12 PM

    “Therefore, Joe Pa knew Sandusky was in the shower fondling a 10 year old (which could have been where he stopped McQueary) that that was all he heard. ”

    … and what more do you need to know? Are you telling me if you saw a 50 yeard old man engaging in sexual activity (as Paterno admitted he learned in the report) with your 10 year old son, that you would just report it to your direct superior and not think twice that the guy continued to run his ‘charity’ and preside around young boys for the next decade?

    there isn’t even a grey area here… BLACK AND WHITE. He will be lucky if nothing else comes out because as Barry Switzer said, you know everything that goes on within your program when you are in that position so don’t tell me wasn’t an accomplice. This moster was his right hand man for 30 years.

  50. jes57 says: Nov 11, 2011 2:29 PM

    The only issue for me is that the person that committed the crimes on these children is FREE. He is not being monitor (at least it was not reported) and is free to victimize another child. All parties that made some poor judgements are being punished, but the person who committed the crime is walking FREE.
    Where is the justice here? Joe Pa and others made some poor judgement calls in this case, but the real issue for me is the legal system is allowing a possible child abuser free on the streets.

  51. jhumbe says: Nov 11, 2011 2:32 PM

    @jes57

    i don’t think anyone here would disagree that sandusky should be locked up. there is no way he should be free to walk the streets, further endangering children.

    however, that does not absolve others that enabled this for over a decade…. which is what this article was about.

  52. westnorthcoast says: Nov 11, 2011 2:34 PM

    Sad day. Franco Harris, Penn State grad and successful businessman, providing almost comical comments about Joe Paterno being the scapegoat. His comments are exactly what is wrong with Penn State football program and the bubble in which they operate. The “Joe can do no harm” thought process is very flawed.

    Whatelse did Joe Paterno do or not do to keep the coffers full? Hopefully, the next coach will have a moral compass that works full-time and that organization structure does not have fatal flaws.

  53. contract says: Nov 11, 2011 2:35 PM

    “If Harris can’t see that, well, that’s on him and his blind loyalty.”

    Actually it’s on you and your media frenzied lynch mob mentality.

  54. mgscott says: Nov 11, 2011 2:37 PM

    Hey Franco, if one of those kids was yours and Joe didn’t tell the police would you be upset. Don’t be stupid Franco. Just stay quiet like you should be.

  55. trbowman says: Nov 11, 2011 2:41 PM

    Dumbass

  56. jhumbe says: Nov 11, 2011 2:44 PM

    Paterno leaves as one of the biggest hypocrits that will ever be remembered.

    dignity, honor…. EPIC FAIL

  57. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 2:46 PM

    wwastnorthcoast said: “Hopefully, the next coach will have a moral compass that works full-time and that organization structure does not have fatal flaws.

    I would dare say that Joe’s moral compass surpasses yours and there are no human organizations that are totally exempt of “fatal flaws”…Humanity itself is a fatal flaw on this earth…

    mgscott, the police already knew..the State College, Police and the Campus Police knew…and the DA knew….What are you talking about or are you just spewing and ranting? Why aren’t you after the Mama’s ass…If everybody already knew about Sandusky, as so many of the saints in here have claimed, why did Mama let son go to see Sandusky in the 2nd place???

  58. dirtyharry1971 says: Nov 11, 2011 2:49 PM

    Franco just another ex penn state player who has no brains, what about the victims Franco? What if that was your son? All morons at this university, must be the water.

  59. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 3:15 PM

    dirtyharry1971, you left out daughters….and they are the most exploited by sexual predators of all…I guess that’s why you chose the handle, “dirtyharry1971″.
    Might you be a male chauvinist pig?

  60. jhumbe says: Nov 11, 2011 3:19 PM

    @harleyspoon

    maybe he said son because it was a boy that was documented as being raped in the shower?? just a guess… keep trying to find a technicality to absolve these monsters.

  61. dkhhuey says: Nov 11, 2011 3:39 PM

    @jh – no, idiot. I have been saying on these boards for the entire time this scandal erupted that anybody and everybody needs to go down for this if they knew. What I was trying to say, if you’d put your pitch fork and torch down is the fact that there is a very small chance that when the coward McQueary began relaying the events of the night, Joe P could have realized the gravity of the situation and told him to stop there and immediately got on the phone with his superiors. I am not condoning anything idiot, I am merely pointing out the fact that Joe stated he did not know Sandusky was raping the kid in the shower and his testimony speaks to that. I am merely offering up how that could have possibly happened – outside, or course, that he did know and lied about it. If he did, then a perjury charge is forthcoming.

    F@#$ people, calm down and stop tossing anybody that offers up a pro Joe niblet into the same category as a NAMBLA member. If it comes out that Joe knew everything and covered it up, then he deserves everything he gets. If he really did only know what he testified to, then he got run out of town with way too much veracity.

  62. dietrich43 says: Nov 11, 2011 3:44 PM

    Someone needs to ask Paterno, McQueary, Bradley, and the rest of the staff, “Did you ever leave your kids or grandkids alone with Sandusky? Did you let them sleepover at his house? Take long showers with him?”

  63. jakobpen says: Nov 11, 2011 3:55 PM

    Franco, you are wrong. Your quote about disappointment with PSU for firing JoePa is astonishing: “I’m very disappointed in their decision. I thought they showed no courage, not to back someone who really needed it at the time.”

    Are you serious? JoePa, McQueary and the PSU administration showed no decency, no compassion and no honor by turning their backs on the 10 year old boy who was raped at PSU. Not one person at PSU, including JoePa and McQueary, stood up for that child – they did not call police, did not ban Sandusky from campus, did not even bother to try to find out his name or if he survived. The child saw McQueary while he was being raped – McQueary did not even attempt to stop it. That, in a nutshell, is the very definition of no honor, no courage, no compassion and no decency.

    Enough tears and whining for JoePa and the football program. Franco, if you want to help JoePa, help him find a good attorney – he is going to need it.

    The inaction of Penn State officials (including JoePa) allowed a child predator to continue his sexual abuse of boys for another 9 years. Banning Sandusky from bringing children onto the campus in 2002 is akin to saying “We know you have been inappropriate with children. Don’t do it here, bring the children somewhere else if you are going to do that”. Penn State officials (including JoePa) sought to protect the institution, not vulnerable children.

    Sandusky continued to use the facilities in the football building until last week according to reports. Even though they knew of his predatory nature and past criminal behavior, Sandusky was still welcomed at the football facilities by JoePa and the school administration.

    McQueary said in the Grand Jury report that both Sandusky and the boy saw him during the sexual assault in the shower. Instead of stopping the assault, he fled the building. The identity of the 10 year old boy was never obtained nor was it sought by Penn State officials. I keep having a terrible, sickening thought: Sandusky knew McQueary saw him – Maybe Sandusky got rid of the evidence by getting rid of the boy. McQueary’s inaction may have resulted in the child’s imminent death once McQueary fled. Clearly Sandusky has no regard for the child’s well being as he raped the child – it is not such a stretch to imagine the child’s life meant nothing to Sandusky.

    The Second Mile documents from 2002 should be obtained to determine the names of boys that were part of the program. Those documents may contain information about the identity of the boy in the shower. Are there any reports of missing boys associated with Second Mile between 1998-2011?

    And consider this: McQueary was promoted in 2002 shortly after reporting the child’s rape to Paterno. No one from Penn State notified the police – therefore, Penn State and the Sandusky secret was safe for 9 more years until the story broke this week.

    Despite his epic failure to assist a child being raped and failure to report it to police, McQueary still has his coaching job. What information does McQueary have that is protecting him from being fired by Penn State? McQueary apparently sold his soul once to get a promotion by not reporting a child rape to the police (or helping the child by stopping the rape), he is likely to do it again to keep his job.

    No honor, no courage, no compassion, no decency among those at PSU who kept the Sandusky secret safe all these years while Sandusky continued to abuse children. That is what you should be disappointed about Franco.

  64. jhumbe says: Nov 11, 2011 3:59 PM

    @dkkhuey

    no need for name-calling, that doesn’t help your point.

    ” I am merely pointing out the fact that Joe stated he did not know Sandusky was raping the kid in the shower and his testimony speaks to that.”

    Turn to page 7 of the grand jury report where it specifically states…

    “Joseph V. Paterno testified to receiving the graduate assistant’s report at his home on a Saturday morning. Paterno testified that the graduate assistant was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curley (“Curley”), Penn State Athletic Director and Paterno’s immediate superior, to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and report to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.”

    My whole point is even if you believe all the BS out there by the Paterno conspiracy theorists… this is FACT. Based on knowing this, Paterno enabled Sandusky access to young men for another decade by not getting the police involved (and instead colluding with his Penn St colleagues)… both through his foundation, around the Penn State facilities, and even taking them on trips to bowl games, etc!!

    Indefensible. Period…. and you’re DANG right I am coming with pitch forks… if only one of these ‘adults’ would have done so a long time ago, it could’ve saved lives that were ruined before they even began.

  65. jhumbe says: Nov 11, 2011 4:01 PM

    “Joseph V. Paterno testified to receiving the graduate assistant’s report at his home on a Saturday morning. Paterno testified that the graduate assistant was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curley (“Curley”), Penn State Athletic Director and Paterno’s immediate superior, to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and report to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.”

  66. dkhhuey says: Nov 11, 2011 4:04 PM

    @jh – I f@#$ing give up – you’re just not worth the aggravation

  67. jhumbe says: Nov 11, 2011 4:05 PM

    again, Paterno testified that

    “the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers FONDLING OR DOING SOMETHING OF A SEXUAL NATURE TO A YOUNG BOY.”

    … and sat on that for 9 years while watching Sandusky walk free to continue raping and sodomizing young boys until they were eventually exposed. You have to be sick to try and defend that.

  68. jhumbe says: Nov 11, 2011 4:07 PM

    @dkhhuey

    “I f@#$ing give up – you’re just not worth the aggravation”

    no surprise, you’re defending a guy (Paterno) that said the same thing to every one of those little boys.

  69. jpiro says: Nov 11, 2011 4:12 PM

    Any minute now, I’m hoping Franco issues the Immaculate Retraction.

  70. bufupaterno says: Nov 11, 2011 4:29 PM

    i wonder if francos son was the kid getting it in the chocolate starfish he’d say paterno did enough. what a schmuck

  71. larrybrown43 says: Nov 11, 2011 4:48 PM

    The media always puts their finger up to sew how the wind blows. None will ever go the other way. No one had the guts to continually question the Iraq invasion or how the towers fell so quickly.

    Joepa couldn’t go to his superiors and say, I don’t think you’re doing enough. I’m calling the cops.

    As a teacher in public ed I couldn’t call the police when a student came to me claiming abuse. I had to go to my principal or guidance counselor. When I followed up, I was simply told the matter was being taken care of. That was for two reasons. One to protect the student and of course to protect the district. I was out of it once I reported the matter.

    Hindsight is great now but if Horoscope or any other staff matter goes over the administration’s head they’d be fired and if those kids didn’t want to come forward or proceed with the claim it could become a legality/suing case against those who stuck their necks out.

    Everybody is a tough guy now. Sadly, ESPN has had their own harassment claims over the years. I don’t know how many stepped forward and risked their jobs to aid a coworker. Most abuse cases never get reported because victims don’t want the humiliation of going to trial or risk losing their job.

  72. jes57 says: Nov 11, 2011 5:00 PM

    All I’m saying is JHumbe = Everyone is focused on Joe Pa and what he did wrong. To be totally honest they all need to go down with some harsh punishments. I never stated earlier that I thought Joe Pa or any other coach was innocent because they are not.

    But letting the real criminal out on the street is not the answer. I work with troubled youth for a living and it’s a damn shame any child had to go through that.

    I just can’t let go of thought of the man (if you want to call him that) is still home able to look for his next victim. That makes me sick. Put his tail in jail and let jail house justice take care of the problem.

  73. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 6:15 PM

    Franco wouldn’t wait for someone else to call the cops, He’s call’em and tell’em he was on his way to Sandusky’s house to rip him limb from limb…He wouldn’t have a little conversation with the guy–like 1998 Mama did–and be satisfied that the guy wouldn’t bother his son again…And that is the point…Whether Paterno rushes down to the police station to tell them what he had heard (but didn’t witness personally) isn’t the point..The cops already had it on their records that Sandusky had done this kind of thing before and they were handling it…after all, the very next day Paterno reported what he heard to the AD and the person who had oversight responsibility over the Campus Police–who are actual certified law enforcement…

  74. lgm717 says: Nov 11, 2011 6:17 PM

    @ harleyspoon

    You are in idiot. You go on about people not being able to read, yet the questions you pose to others are all answered in the grand jury report. You go on about people spewing and ranting, yet that is all you have accomplished since your first post. You can’t simply have a discussion without personally attacking people and making assumptions based on their nickname. You are, simply put, an ignorant hypocrite. You came on here and showed the world just how stupid you really are, and then you continually one-up yourself with each post. I’m sure that you think you are really smart and you’re the only one who sees your view point because you are the only one who is smart enough to see it. But that works both ways, and maybe…just maybe, you are on the other side of the spectrum?

  75. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 6:20 PM

    No, Yohimbe, Paterno testified that he called the AD and the Campus Police overseer to his house the very next day and reported it to them….HE DID NOT SIT ON IT FOR 9 YEARS, BUBBA AND DIDN’T TESTIFY TO SUCH CRAP…PEOPLE WHO LOVE TO PASS ON LIES ARE LIARS…AND, YOHIMBE, THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE…..A LIAR EVEN IN THE FACE OF THE FACTS…YOU ARE A SICK PUPPY AND “THOU DOST PROTESTETH TOO MUCH”…IN OTHER WORDS, ARE YOU SURE YOU AREN’T A PEDOPHILE YOURSELF??? DO YOU SEE GUILT IN THE MIRROR EVERY MORNING??

  76. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 6:24 PM

    IGM717, the Grand Jury report doesn’t say what you say it says…and neither does the police station and DA chronology of events regarding Sandusky and the whole sordid deal…I think it is you who can’t read…You conflate your opinion and what you want to believe into the record by purposefully distorting what was said in Grand Jury testimony…

  77. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 6:28 PM

    Well put larrybrown43….You are speaking truth to idiots who cannot grasp it or are purposefully exposing a personal agenda…None of them are lawyers….ad none of them went to law school…They are anonymous bullies who don;t have the gonads to really do anything but talk tough..and talk is really cheap…

  78. lgm717 says: Nov 11, 2011 6:29 PM

    And here it is again, you being on the opposite side of the spectrum. The only thing I said regarding the grand jury report was that you pose questions that it answered. How exactly is that “purposefully distorting what was said in Grand Jury testimony”?? I have not stated my opinion on what I think of Joe or anyone else. I stated my opinion on what I thought of you. So please, what is this about ME not being able to read again?? :)

  79. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 6:29 PM

    They are all blow and no go!! They walk around like chickens with the blue bugs…

  80. steelerhypocrite says: Nov 11, 2011 6:30 PM

    STFU Franco….your just an idiot Italian. JoPa and Pedophile State isn’t immune to the ethical rules everyone else abides to.

  81. 6ball says: Nov 11, 2011 7:21 PM

    .

    Dude, you’re out of bounds (as usual).

    .

  82. deadeye says: Nov 11, 2011 7:29 PM

    “They are anonymous bullies who don;t have the gonads to really do anything but talk tough..and talk is really cheap…”

    =======================

    Unless the talk is JoePa expressing regret after decades of covering-up, then talk suddenly means the world to you.

  83. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 7:30 PM

    Page 12 of the following report tells all there is to be said about what Paterno did or did not do….Read the page….Curley and Schultz were required, under law, to report the incident with 48 hours…It was they who were required to report, not Paterno…

    http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf

  84. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 7:32 PM

    Note that in the beginning pages of the Grand Jury Report, the AD and the President had no knowledge of the 1998 incident or the results of the inquiry….If they didn’t know, it is hard to believe Paterno should know…

  85. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 7:34 PM

    Paterno did not cover it up…nor did he participate in any cover-up according to the Grand Jury Report…Cite the page where he admitted that he paticipated in a cover-up in the report!!!

  86. dkhhuey says: Nov 11, 2011 7:38 PM

    @jh – no you idiot, I am not defending Joe Pa I am simply putting out a scenario that he may not have known all of the details – that is it. You’re just too f@#$ing stupid to be able to discern the difference. I’d type slower and try to spell it out but you obviously don’t possess the reading comprehension skills to grasp what I am saying. As I have said a billion times – if Joe Pa knew about everything he deserves what he gets – does that sound like I’m defending him you idiot?

  87. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 7:39 PM

    There is a procedure for reporting sexual abuse of a minor…Read page 12 and see who is supposed to report such abuse…It does not say coaches or janitors….

  88. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 7:41 PM

    You people are grabbing at straws…

  89. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 8:40 PM

    Well said dkhhuey…These people are typical blind and mindless lynch mob types…

  90. harleyspoon says: Nov 11, 2011 8:46 PM

    No, deadeye, I regret what happened in Waco and I wonder, from time to time, if there is something I could have done or said to someone that might have kept it from happening…After all, I did live in Waco…I knew the DA and the Sheriff very well….I owned significant land not too far from the Davidian complex…I went to school with Davidians when I was a kid in the 1950′s when they first came to Waco from all over the world to wait for the world to end…But, as Don Meredith said so often, “If if’s and but’s were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas!”

  91. 6ball says: Nov 11, 2011 9:08 PM

    .

    @harleyspoon

    You believe that every action that Paterno took warrants a Congressional Medal of Honor.

    There is a segment of society ( albeit possibly small) who could never lay their head on a pillow with the knowledge that a ten year old was raped, and they had information that could bring the perpetrator to justice.

    A child was sodomized, an adult did pathetically little to help. I’ll alert the Kennedys to suspend their search. We’ve got this years winner of the JFK Profiles in Courage Award.

    .

  92. dkhhuey says: Nov 11, 2011 10:12 PM

    @harley – no sh!t!!! There was a great article on CNN that was written by the person currently writing Joe Pa’s biography over the last year. His insight was incredible and dead on about this exact subject. He said countless times that if Joe Pa knew the details then he deserved the full brunt of whatever came his way. Having said that, he was amazed that no matter what the sentiment, if it even remotely hinted of an iota of support for or a positive comment about/towards Joe Pa, that he was accused of being for child abuse and treated like a NAMBLA member. He said it just stunned him. Well, I think we can concur with him on that, eh

  93. honkerdawg says: Nov 11, 2011 10:51 PM

    Kudos to Franco Harris. I’m tired of ESPN referring to this as “the Paterno Incident”. This is about a slime named Sandusky and what he did to those kids, as usual the powers that be need a “name” to blame it on and Sandusky isn’t big enough so they’ve decided to fault Paterno and put the blame on him. The Brd of Trustees should fire themselves and the coach who first found out what happened and just ran home to daddy because he was a friend of the family. As for ESPN, they show their colors by the way the wind blows, there isn’t an original thought at that network, they follow company line and jump on everyone except their own when they screw up, they’re a JOKE when it comes to sports reporting. They think they’re experts when all they have is a bunch of nobody’s as their so-called experts

  94. liberty4alll says: Nov 11, 2011 10:57 PM

    This is nothing more than a character assassination on Paterno…

    Joe Paterno reported it to the Athletic Director, as require BY THE LAW.

    Joe Paterno reported it to the head of campus security (which is the campus police)… The campus police are THE POLICE you stupid idiots!!!

    What is ruining our country is the way the everyone’s constitutional right to the presumption of innocence and due process is being stomped out by knee jerk character assassinations by people who don’t even have straight what few facts that are known at this time. What is ruining our country is all of the people who don’t have the guts to stand up and demand that everyone be afforded their constitutional right to the presumption of innocence and due process, BEFORE judgment and punishment is passed on the person in question. It’s especially sad to see our constitutional rights dying on veterans day when we are supposed to be remembering the people who died fighting for these very rights.

    It’s refreshing to see Franco have the guts to stand up for our constitutional rights, THANK YOU MR. HARRIS!!!

  95. waynefontes says: Nov 12, 2011 1:33 AM

    Sandusky is pure evil.

    McQuearey is a coward that COULD have done the right thing but didn’t.

    JoePa is scum that SHOULD have done the right but didn’t.

    They’re all getting what they deserve.

    Franco Harris is a moron who simply knew how to run out of bounds rather than deal with contact.

    Funny how that applies to Franco both on and off the field.

  96. effjohntaylornorelation says: Nov 12, 2011 6:15 AM

    So Franco fits the description of a grumpy old man, right?

  97. Sandy Sivits says: Nov 12, 2011 6:04 PM

    For all the ranting about what Coach should have done — how many of you would step-in if someone was being hurt (be it a child, a female, the elderly) or that you suspected was being hurt or was told was being hurt? I have – and I’ve also been the victim when no one would help me.

    JoePa went to the AD and encouraged McQuery to follow through I’m sure. He personally didn’t witness a thing. He expected others to do their job – and that is so JoePa to expect people to be responsible.

    I stand with Franco – bad decision on the Board’s part.

  98. luckylosers says: Nov 12, 2011 10:14 PM

    I suppose if we disagree with the writer of this article then we’re either stupid or should be morally ashamed. Remember Mike Leach? Never had a chance after ESPN started in. Our society is made up of many people who choose to have the media guide their beliefs. Sandusky is a pervert who deserves whatever he gets. However, the media doesn’t want Sandusky. They want THE STORY. This will die down in a few weeks and the media won’t care anything about the victims (they never did). But they will have achieved exactly what they wanted…the destruction of lives and the blindless public’s approval.

  99. righthereisay says: Nov 12, 2011 10:21 PM

    Really shows how long Paterno has been around. I mean, he was frickin’ Franco Harris’ college coach.

  100. wpesr says: Nov 13, 2011 11:03 AM

    Fat Franco would have done exaxctly like Mcqueery and just let Sandusky rape the child to protect the Paterno legend.

  101. drexelvol says: Nov 14, 2011 5:02 PM

    Franco can go f*@k himself too. You don’t back someone who covered up sex crimes against children.

  102. lookatthefarside says: Nov 18, 2011 5:01 AM

    maybe when the dust settles, franco would have wished that he could have done more.

  103. joepa400 says: Nov 18, 2011 9:38 AM

    I agree with Franco 100%, only in this day and age is doing the right thing the wrong thing. This is exactly why alot of people turn their heads and choose to ignore what they see. Joe saw nothing and still choose to report it. Its a shame I read this crap about JoePa, but see very little about the monster that did this horrific act to innocent children. Never in my life have I heard so much bullshit about a man who turned in a pedophile. I know I sleep better at night knowing all you saints are out and about protecting the world!!

  104. harleyspoon says: Nov 18, 2011 10:02 AM

    Joepa400, You have put the whole matter in correct perspective….All the forked tongued turds who point their fingers at Peterno need to look in the mirror to see where the real problem lies…They are “all blow and no go” sanctimonious & self-righteous hypocrites who sit on the sidelines of life and spit on those who are actually in the game…I wouldn’t waste one drop of my piss on the whole damned bunch of them if they were on fire on my most expensive rug…These gutless blowhards would crap and fall back in it if they had to deal with what Joe deals with.

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